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Is Transformers 2 racist?

By: SANDY COHEN
The Associated Press
June 25, 2009

In this film publicity image released by Paramount Pictures, twin robots are shown in a scene from, "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen. (AP Photo/Paramount Pictures)

LOS ANGELES – Harmless comic characters or racist robots? The buzz over the summer blockbuster "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" only grew Wednesday as some said two jive-talking Chevy characters were racial caricatures. Skids and Mudflap, twin robots disguised as compact hatchbacks, constantly brawl and bicker in rap-inspired street slang. They're forced to acknowledge that they can't read. One has a gold tooth.

As good guys, they fight alongside the Autobots and are intended to provide comic relief. But their traits raise the specter of stereotypes most notably seen when Jar Jar Binks, the clumsy, broken-English speaking alien from "Star Wars: Episode I — The Phantom Menace," was criticized as a caricature.

One fan called the Transformers twins "Jar Jar Bots" in a blog post online.

Todd Herrold, who watched the movie in New York City, called the characters "outrageous."

"It's one thing when robot cars are racial stereotypes," he said, "but the movie also had a bucktoothed black guy who is briefly in one scene who's also a stereotype."

"They're like the fools," said 18-year-old Nicholas Govede, also of New York City. "The comic relief in a degrading way."

Not all fans were offended. Twin brothers Jason and William Garcia, 18, who saw the movie in Miami, said they related to the characters — not their illiteracy, but their bickering.

"They were hilarious," Jason said. "Every movie has their standout character, and I think they were the ones for this movie."

In Atlanta, Rico Lawson said people were reading too much into the characters. "It was actually funny," said Lawson, 25, who saw the movie with his girlfriend in Atlanta.

That was the aim, director Michael Bay said in an interview.

"It's done in fun," he said. "I don't know if it's stereotypes — they are robots, by the way. These are the voice actors. This is kind of the direction they were taking the characters and we went with it."

Bay said the twins' parts "were kind of written but not really written, so the voice actors is when we started to really kind of come up with their characters."

Actor Reno Wilson, who is black, voices Mudflap. Tom Kenny, the white actor behind SpongeBob SquarePants, voices Skids.

Wilson said Wednesday that he never imagined viewers might consider the twins to be racial caricatures. When he took the role, he was told that the alien robots learned about human culture through the Web and that the twins were "wannabe gangster types."

"It's an alien who uploaded information from the Internet and put together the conglomeration and formed this cadence, way of speaking and body language that was accumulated over X amount of years of information and that's what came out," the 40-year-old actor said. "If he had uploaded country music, he would have come out like that."

It's not fair to assume the characters are black, he said.

"It could easily be a Transformer that uploaded Kevin Federline data," Wilson said. "They were just like posers to me."

Kenny did not respond to an interview request Wednesday.

"I purely did it for kids," the director said. "Young kids love these robots, because it makes it more accessible to them."

Screenwriters Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman said they followed Bay's lead in creating the twins. Still, the characters aren't integral to the story, and when the action gets serious, they disappear entirely, notes Tasha Robinson, associate entertainment editor at The Onion.

"They don't really have any positive effect on the film," she said. "They only exist to talk in bad ebonics, beat each other up and talk about how stupid each other is."

Hollywood has a track record of using negative stereotypes of black characters for comic relief, said Todd Boyd, a professor of popular culture at the University of Southern California's School of Cinematic Arts, who has not seen the "Transformers" sequel.

"There's a history of people getting laughs at the expense of African-Americans and African-American culture," Boyd said. "These images are not completely divorced from history even though it's a new movie and even though they're robots and not humans."

American cinema also has a tendency to deal with race indirectly, said Allyson Nadia Field, an assistant professor of cinema and media studies at the University of California, Los Angeles.

"There's a persistent dehumanization of African-Americans throughout Hollywood that displaces issues of race onto non-human entities," said Field, who also hasn't seen the film. "It's not about skin color or robot color. It's about how their actions and language are coded racially."

If these characters weren't animated and instead played by real black actors, "then you might have to admit that it's racist," Robinson said. "But stick it into a robot's mouth, and it's just a robot, it's OK."

But if they're alien robots, she continued, "why do they talk like bad black stereotypes?"

Bay brushes off any whiff of controversy.

"Listen, you're going to have your naysayers on anything," he said. "It's like is everything going to be melba toast? It takes all forms and shapes and sizes."

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Associated Press writers Damian Grass in Miami, Ginny Byrne in New York City and Jonathan Landrum Jr. in Atlanta contributed to this report.
 



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龄瑬ސĀ

Jun 26, 2009

This crap is completely ignorant if they wanted to post some racist theories of movie robots I have no idea what this world is coming to. If people noticed this wasn't the first so called sterotype in a transformers movie, if anyone noticed Jazz from the first movie was also a so called Black robot which brought up that black people always die first.

 

Jonathan

Jun 26, 2009

I agree all this racism from a robot movie is ridiculous, if you live an America then you should know that alot of whites sound and act the same way...are they racist? Get over yourselves and realize that if you saw it as racist then perhaps you are more racist then most.

 

Anonymous

Jun 27, 2009

this really annoys me. first of all, they're robots,and they're green and red, so they're in no way representative of black people. second I think that language and personality is more dependant on where you are brought up than what colour your skin is. i've also heard that their faces are racially stereotypical, well they look like gremlins to me, which don't look like humans at all.
Then the whole not being able to read thing. let's see, they only say they can't read cybertronian, and lets remember that they are supposed to be young character and the autobots haven't been on cybertron for thousands upon thousands of years because of the cube etc, so they wouldn't have learned cybertronian.

 

jen k

Jun 27, 2009

As far as I'm concerned anybody that thinks the pink and green robots are stereotypical black people are guilty of stereotyping black people! The is another example of very bad press trying to cause problem where there's just not one!

 

jtclancer

Jun 27, 2009

imagine white people qualifying the "amos and andy" transformer skit and being the authority on stereotyping. no wonder 911 happened

 

Real

Jun 28, 2009

They looked ape-ish. Their exact comment was "uh.. we don't much reading". Every other word was a curse. "with yo punkass". "with yo bitchass". They spoke in STRONG ebonics. One of them had a gold tooth. What's subtle about the racism?! Because it comes out of a robot we're supposed to ignore the fact that they're displaying human traits.. more specifically a SPECIFIC human stereotype?

 

Jun 29, 2009

Really now what is the world coming to. Are we seriously having this conversation. I saw this movie when it first hit the screen and I thought nothing more than it was comical. Although I do have to admit the dialect is somewhat racially motivating to some and one of the robots has a gold teeth. But in essence its a movie that's how I saw it. That's my story and I am sticking to it! I declare some people have to do something to hype up a story for the own cause. Im going to see the movie again and I will buy the DVD when it hit the stores.. Give me a break. I don't see this rhetorical backlash when a movie is made regarding white people in a trailer park. Hey there are some blacks that live there as well. Gee whiz what are we coming to and I am black and took no offense... well part of me anywho....lol

 

kayla

Jun 29, 2009

seriously?! come on now! almost 99% of the movie has a racial remarks on it. what about malibu? a white guy picked up and acted like black guy.. what about jackie chan's movies with chris rock?.. an asian guy acted like black and black acted like asian.. i am asian and some of the movies depict asian as nerds and wants to be a doctor or asian is smart but on weeds. they always depict asian as hardcore people who take risks for everything and a big time gambler. oh yeah my faviorte, asian in nail salons. but when it comes to black remarks, everyone wants to make a big deal about it. grow up! personally, i don't see a lot of asians made any big deal when it comes to asian jokes. but some people wanna make a big deal about it cuz of centuries old history.

 

BG

Jun 29, 2009

This is one instance where the characters need to be stereotypical, because, as others have pointed out, these characters learned their mannerisms from pop culture and the internet. If anything, you could see it as a commentary on prejudice and stereotyping in society that this is all they could come up with from scanning such material. Who is accusing an "uneducated" character (and these guys not being able to read Cybertronian is about equivalent to my inability to read Latin) of representing black people, because he speaks like a rapper? The stereotype of lack of education applies to "rednecks", too. Black people don't have gold teeth; rappers do. Maybe I should be offended that these characters are actually making fun of white people who try to act "black" by imitating rappers. I'm just sad that this isn't the first time I've heard this accusation.

 

yako0020

Jun 29, 2009

who is this racist to? only to white people I got plenty of black friends who only think the robots are funny, the only people making a buzz about it is the white people

 

jmezzal

Jun 30, 2009

Interesting how some people see these robots as "black stereotypes" when things like "rap-inspired street slang. They're forced to acknowledge that they can't read. One has a gold tooth." are mentioned. So I guess that according to most of the press covering this that all African-American have gold teeth, can't read, and speak "ebonics" if these robots are based on such stereotypes, which to me being African-American myself I find such a comparison as being racist. BTW I see these to robots as being a mockery to Hip-Hop culture as a whole, which includes Black, White (especially the wantabe gangsters), Asian, Latino, etc... that is how i see it.

 

MasaCheez

Jun 30, 2009

I guess I'm unsure where the racism is in this movie. The twins were never labled as any particular race. In my opinion, it is racist to assume that because they talked like they were from the ghetto that they were representing black people or culture. I have heard and seen plenty white folk talk just the same and also have seen the golden tooth/teeth on people of other cultures/races. Also, the guy with the goofy teeth in the meat market, he was Indian. (Dot not feather) Have you ever seen an Indian with bad teeth? Not me. So seriously, it was for comic relief, nothing more, nothing less. People need to take the stick out of their a$$ and get a life. Stop looking to be the victim and grow up. Life is full of much more important struggles than something like a Michael Bay film that hurt your little feelings.

 

moogaloonie

Jun 30, 2009

Don't compare the original Jazz character to those guys. Yes, he was voiced by Scatman Crothers and was obviously meant to be black. Besides his voice the only sterotype of his character was a love of loud music and a tendency to do the worm as he transformed. He did not die first, and was in both seasons before the movie (and also shown surviving in the animated movie's finale) as a loyal, and valuable, "right hand" to Prime. He wasn't a wannabee cliche, he was the cool one everybody liked.

 

Eagle & Baby Doll

Jul 1, 2009

Before anyone goes screaming racism into the streets maybe just maybe they should sit back and take a look at society. Skids and Mudflaps are racist steroetypes? Or maybe they're just a reflection of our youth today black, white, asian or hispanic! Yes it is a smaller percentage yet it is a percentage. Take a look around you and exactly who does not know a youth who chooses to use almost exclusively slang when they talk, we all know one or two. If you don't your living under a rock. So lets ignor the fact that some in the entertain business, professional sports and music industry act like complete buffoons. So instead lets pick on a fictional charracter because a fictional character can't take us to court and sue for defamation of character. So get over it when all steroetypes are dead and we are all robots with no personality then we can get upset.

 

winemdinem69m

Jul 4, 2009

lol. does anyone realize how stupid the media is getting. they are the only ones noticing these "racist steriotypes" in big movies. I think maybe damian grass in miami, ginny byrne in new york city, and johnathon landrum jr. in atlanta should point the fingers in the mirror cause they are obviously the only ones who can see robot race. and i was unaware that different skin colors have different languages, they were nice enough to give me that little nugget too. and the icing on the cake is that they said that all black people should be off4ended cause it was steiotypical to them. Uhhh news flash not all black people are rappers and if ur a rapper u learn to take criticizm. So please news try to report on stuff that everyone else sees not just you. like hunger or something

 

winemdinem69m

Jul 4, 2009

Oh and mrs. allyson nadia field you cant racially code a language

 

diamond

Jul 4, 2009

In the movie White Chicks, the Wayans brothers play white girls and act verfy stupid and you didn't see people complaining about that. Why can one race make fun of the other but others can't. Stop crying racism about EVERYTHING!!!!!!!

 

James White

Jul 8, 2009

I watched this film last night and almost walked out because I was so shocked at the racist content (and it's an awful film), but that might just be because I'm from London, England and that kind of attitude is not acceptable here.

 

jameswhite = dumbass

Jul 8, 2009

Oh James White, I find it funny that you are so ignorant you think people in London, England are not racist. Racism is present in every society, and no society is perfect. Besides, you are proving yourself wrong by inferring that Americans accept racist attitudes. Doesn't that sweeping generalization come from the same ignorant thinking as racism? You bet your ass it does! Besides, if you want to talk putting another race down then look at what your fellow countrymen did to India...or America for that matter. Your ancestors did slaughter Native Americans and poison them with smallpox.

 

RADMAN

Jul 10, 2009

Have you considered the fact that alien robots from cybertron are laughing at all you stupid humans right now!!!

 

Free P.

Jul 11, 2009

This is simply something that whites may not understand... they haven't been the joke of cinemas for years like we have. When the robots came on the scene, my bf both looked at each other and thought hell no! this is a outright racist sterotype.

 

Jul 20, 2009

i laugh at the "if you see racism then you are racist" responses. Stupid very stupid.

Now I will agree that it isn't racist at all and I haven't looked at the movie.

I guess one will say that G Force the movie is racist too since Agent Blaster is voiced by a black guy and the gerbil is black. LOL hilarious

 

OpenYourEyes

Aug 5, 2009

It is very interesting that people get offended when people feel their cutlure is being taken for granted or made fun of. The media, film and television, are very powerful influences on public opinion and perception of culture and values. EVEN in jest, you make an impact with your words, even more so with images. I think the offense here at the Transformers and Star Wars caricatures is that they fit the ALL TOO COMMON poor image this country places on the black population. It is just reinforcing that negative stereotype.
Why is it so hard to portray those robot characters without the negative stereotype and still make it funny or it is only when you are putting someone in a poor light are you able to make a joke?

 

Aug 8, 2009

Unfortunately, this obviously racist depiction is being defended by people who would rather present red herring after red herring than deal with the blatant stereotyping in the film (and the last one). Bay must have thought that Jazz was not bad enough: he needed a more blatant display of racism in this film.

 

M.

Aug 8, 2009

Kids... don't feed the politically-correct trolls.

 


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