Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., confirmed that he regards Obamacare as a bridge to a single-payer health care plan, contrary to Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius’ assurances that the law would never lead to such a program.

“This is not a trick. This is not single-payer,” Sebelius told NPR in 2009 in response to Mitt Romney’s claim that the proposed bill was a “Trojan horse” for single-payer health care.

NPR’s Steve Inskeep pressed for more clarity. “Can you say flat out it’s just never going to be single-payer health insurance and we’re going to try to write it if we can so that it won’t ever be?” he asked.

“Oh, I think – I think that’s very much the case,” Sebelius replied. “And again, if you want anybody to convince people of that, talk to the single-payer proponents, who are furious that the single payer idea is not part of the discussion.”

That’s not true, according to Reid. “What we’ve done with Obamacare is have a step in the right direction, but we’re far from having something that’s going to work forever,” he said on “Nevada Week in Review” on Friday evening, before saying that the United States needs to develop a single-payer plan. “Yes, yes. Absolutely, yes.”