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Metro fields hundreds of complaints about bus ads

By: Kytja Weir
Examiner Staff Writer
December 3, 2008

Hundreds of people have fired off complaints to Metro for running an ad campaign on its buses that questions the belief in God.

The transit system said the controversial ads have solicited just one compliment, while receiving 251 complaints.

“Why believe in a god?” say the American Humanist Association ads that went up on a handful of buses two weeks ago and inside the buses on Monday. “Just be good for goodness’ sake.”

The ads have sparked more ire than usual for Metro, said agency spokeswoman Candace Smith, even though advertising on buses and in stations has long been a legal morass for transit systems nationwide.

“As a public agency, Metro must observe the First Amendment with respect to the acceptance of commercial advertising,” Smith said. “Although we understand that feelings and perceptions will vary among individuals within the community, we cannot reject advertising because an individual, or group, finds it inappropriate or offensive.”

The transit system has lost lawsuits when it refused to run ads. It had to run posters suggesting that President Ronald Reagan led a “jelly bean republic” after losing a court decision in 1984.

Since then, Metro has allowed many campaigns that spark complaints, including recent ads for the “Fallout 3” video game that some deemed too violent. The transit agency’s ads cannot be factually misleading or false, nor can they violate laws or incite violence, Smith said. Profanity is also out. Everything else must be accepted.

For some, though, even the questioning of the existence of a god translates to obscenity. One person wrote to Metro, “That ad is obscene to me!? I wouldn’t want my children reading that.”

Another wrote of plans to complain to the American Civil Liberties Union on grounds that the ads violate a separation of church and state by a publicly funded organization.

The local branch of the ACLU said it had not received complaints about the campaign, nor would the free-speech advocates likely take on the case as they have successfully sued to keep such advertising open.

“The principle is as old as the hills,” said Fritz Mulhauser, staff attorney for the ACLU of the National Capital Area. “If Metro opens its space and walls to advertising, it cannot pick and choose.”

It’s not clear how many of those who complained actually ride the Metro system, as all but five complaints arrived via e-mail. One signed an e-mail as a “D.C. resident, Metro rider, and ‘BELIEVER’ in God,” while another writer acknowledged, “I have never had the privilege to actually visit Washington, D.C.”

Some of the letter writers said they learned of the campaign from FOXNews.com or AOL and wrote in before the ads appeared on any buses.

The American Humanist Association began running 20 ads on the backs and sides of Metro buses starting Nov. 17 in Northwest and Southeast. Another 200 ads, which run inside behind the drivers’ seats, began Monday.

On Sunday, the Beltway Atheists plan to piggyback on the campaign and give out sweaters to homeless people in Dupont Circle to kick off of a week-long “be good for goodness’ sake” program.

The controversy has been a boon for the D.C. nonprofit American Humanist Association, which spent less than $12,000 on the bus ads. Since starting the campaign, 638 new members have signed up, spokesman Fred Edwords said. Traffic to its Web site spiked, Edwords said, and donors contributed thousands of dollars.

Metro spokeswoman Smith said the number of complaints represents a small fraction of its ridership, which averages more than a million trips on buses and trains daily.

“Do we think we’re losing customers over this?” Smith said. “I doubt it.”

She said Metro responds to each complaint, urging those who complain to contact the advertiser directly. Or, she said, “They can pony up money for counter advertising.”

She said no groups have contacted the agency to buy ads in response to the campaign, which ends in late December.



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maddog777

Dec 3, 2008

I am constantly having pro-regligion, pro-christian, pro-family propaganda shoved at me. I don't see why we can't make room for an alternative view once in awhile.

 

ElleDub

Dec 3, 2008

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. You can choose to agree or disagree with it. Personally, I disagree with this one. However, I most likely would have ignored it, had I seen it. No need to lose sleep over something you can't control...someone else's opinion.

 

landofreason

Dec 3, 2008

I welcome any sign that counters and balances the massive amount of religious messages already posted all over the country. You don't need to be religious to be a true patriotic American, and religious Americans need to know that.

 

MogHoz

Dec 3, 2008

I saw this while on the 18E this morning, and I called Metro. I wanted to voice my support, and add to the one compliment. I think these ads are great! The customer service person I talked to said she hasn't heard one complaint about it. The Examiner is just trying to make it sound like there is outcry, and they display their right-wing bias in so doing.

 

Big Frank

Dec 3, 2008

Christians are hypocrits.

 

fitch33

Dec 3, 2008

I 100% support the advertisement! Pro-Religion and pro-christian propaganda is everywhere - what if we are of a different opinion - can't it be shared? We are forced into a majority opinion - I for one apprecite diversity.

 

Anonymous

Dec 3, 2008

Yeah, well I'm sick and tired of having pro-abortion and pro-gay rights shoved down my throat. I can't turn on the TV without seeing this garbage anymore! And those who think "Christians are hypocrits," #1 need to look up the correct spelling of the word (hypocrite) and the definition before they accuse somebody of being so. I, for one, make no pretense about what I believe in. And #2 They are positively blind to the Truth. I'll pray for you!!

 

PaulRay

Dec 3, 2008

Can it be so difficult to accept tha fact that not everyone needs an omnipresent, vengeful father figure to make them be good? I find it depressing that Christians and other theists seem to be motivated to be good only by the idea that retribution will be visited upon them if they aren't kond and giving. What does that say about their true moral fiber? One more thing. If these people really possesed "Faith", they wouldn't be so offended by someone who doesn't share it. According to the writings of their own leaders, they should view these challenges as cause to reaffirm their own beliefs. How weak is a God who can't stand up to the challenge of a billboard?

 

shawn

Dec 3, 2008

I want to see more campaigns like this. It seems to cause people to confront their faith, whatever it is, which is a necessary step in self-discovery.

 

Momma Poopadoo

Dec 3, 2008

YEAH! It's about time someone adevertised a belief in God that made SENSE! As someone who doesn't believe in God and someone who beleives in the Constitution I don't complain about advterisements for any other religious organization or belief. Big Frank is right... Christians - nay - ANYONE who complains about this ad is a hypcrite - that is unless they complain about all of the other religious propaganda posted all over the city. YEAH METRO!

 

MetroDweller

Dec 3, 2008

So you are saying if a bus went through NW DC with a "pro-death" advertisement against abortion, or a "homosexuality goes against Lord Darwin's teachings" that there would not be an outrage from the gays and liberals in DC.

 

MetroDweller

Dec 3, 2008

So you are saying if a bus went through NW DC with a "pro-death" advertisement against abortion, or a "homosexuality goes against Lord Darwin's teachings" that there would not be an outrage from the gays and liberals in DC.

 

Obsidian

Dec 3, 2008

As an atheist, I have fought long and hard for First Amendment rights. That includes freedom of speech, even if it's an unpopular view, and freedom of religion, including the freedom not to practice a religion. I have tolerated years of religious propoganda shoved down my throat. I, for one, am very happy to see something like this. It's about time that people understood that not everyone believes in a god.

 

think73

Dec 3, 2008

Everyone believes in a "god", whether it is from "religion" or not. Self interest, money,& power or only a few. Why be good for goodness sake? Goodness doesn't care. Who defines good?

 

Fred Vaughn

Dec 3, 2008

This is really brilliant. All too often people seem to overlook that we can be good and moral in a truly altruistic sense without having a worship some sort of God. I would hope to see more of these kind of messages, offering the rationalist/humanist point of view rather than mindless religious dogma.

 

DavidT

Dec 3, 2008

I commend Metro for allowing these ads. It is through questioning that we, a society, make advances in every field of human endeavor. Asking should never be considered bad. As Thomas Jefferson said "question everything, even the existence of God".

 

Tom Human

Dec 3, 2008

If Christians were actually confident in their beliefs, they'd never complain. This is a sign of deep insecurity - keep it up!

 

Anonymous

Dec 3, 2008

Mother Teresa, herself, was an atheist for the last fifty years of her life, yet her good deeds are renowned the world over. Of course, she had to hide her disbelief behind the facade of religion to placate the masses, but her personal life reflects a different story: a story in which the right thing to do was right in spite of feeling no all-seeing-eye peering over her shoulder, judging her deeds for future reward or punishment. This campaign is a long time coming and very welcome in a world where the religious right have majority control. http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1655415,00.html for those who disbelieve the Mother Teresa claim, by the way.

 

Kahless

Dec 3, 2008

If only the majority of America could appreciate what this bus says. This is amazing...and it has put a rather large smile on an atheists face :)

 

AndrewC

Dec 3, 2008

I think this is a wonderful campaign. Religions have been advertising for a long time and it's about time Atheists started too.

 

cnodaddy

Dec 3, 2008

As a former agnostic turned Christian I support D.C. Metro in running this ad because I think that it can serve as an interesting talking point concerning faith and morality. I, like many people across the faith spectrum, once asked “Why believe in God?” or posited that individual ethics (being good for goodness’ sake) are sufficient in order to live an individually and communally acceptable life. Such queries and statements can be discussed vigorously and even used as conduits to share one’s belief. Perhaps this advertisement will cause not only those of little or no theistic conviction to explore these issues, but also inspire those of faith to be prepared to cogently provide an answer.

 

cnodaddy

Dec 3, 2008

As a former agnostic turned Christian I support D.C. Metro in running this ad because I think that it can serve as an interesting talking point concerning faith and morality. I, like many people across the faith spectrum, once asked “Why believe in God?” or posited that individual ethics (being good for goodness’ sake) are sufficient in order to live an individually and communally acceptable life. Such queries and statements can be discussed vigorously and even used as conduits to share one’s belief. Perhaps this advertisement will cause not only those of little or no theistic conviction to explore these issues, but also inspire those of faith to be prepared to cogently provide an answer.

 

Harvard@Cal

Dec 3, 2008

"Be good for goodness sake" Why? Might makes right. Whatever advances me and mine is good, all else that conflicts with that is bad. QED.

 

Rob Stabler

Dec 3, 2008

Hey Anon -- you go ahead and keep praying for me. I'll **think** for you.

 

J.D.

Dec 3, 2008

Re: constant "pro-regligion, pro-christian, pro-family propaganda" Really? I've seen none of it. Examples, please.

 

hatfullOftomatoes

Dec 3, 2008

I would just like to say I I love the ads, they are great.

 

AJ

Dec 3, 2008

It is about time for a pro-atheist ad. Whenever an atheist billboard hits the public, it has to be carefully worded as to not upset everybody. I support these ads. I'd support taking it further... "Why believe in a god?" and then the answer is "Because you're delusional" or something along those lines. Good stuff.

 

Corey Mondello

Dec 3, 2008

Why is it, it seems that it is always Fundmental Christians who want to tell everyone else to live, but always complain about being attacked, all the time, for who they are? I understand in the bible a few passages state that as Christians, they will be treated badly, but they are to use it to make them stronger. So, do Fundamentalist Christians who make a big "ta doo" about nothing, have a martyr complex, because they believe they are supposed to? I alsy find it comical how many Republicans claim to want their right to privacy and small government, but use religion, to try and tell everyone else how to live.

 

Powzie

Dec 3, 2008

To confuse Mother Teresa's protracted dark night of the soul with atheism is to belie the notion that atheists are the modern champions of reason; any honest atheist should admit as much -- even Christopher Hitchens, with his liquor adoration and his lying prostrate before the tobacco altar. Not to fret, though. The "be good for goodness' sake" ad, while undermining belief in God, does at least leave the door open to belief in Santa Claus ("you better watch out; you better not cry ..."), to say nothing of the "goodness" of the Hitler/Stalin/Maoist variety.

 

Powzie

Dec 3, 2008

To confuse Mother Teresa's protracted dark night of the soul with atheism is to belie the notion that atheists are the modern champions of reason; any honest atheist should admit as much -- even Christopher Hitchens, with his liquor adoration and his lying prostrate before the tobacco altar. Not to fret, though. The "be good for goodness' sake" ad, while undermining belief in God, does at least leave the door open to belief in Santa Claus ("you better watch out; you better not cry ..."), to say nothing of the "goodness" of the Hitler/Stalin/Maoist variety.

 

DC Secular Humanist

Dec 3, 2008

Hi everyone. I was involved in some of the discussions before this ad campaign was launched. It might be helpful for people to know that the intent was not to convert or offend believers. The major goal was simply to raise the visibility of those of us with no belief and create a sense of community around our shared views. We are pleased that so many people are joining AHA. Local people can also join the local affiliate, the Washington Area Secular Humanists. See www.wash.org for more information.

 

AmericanAtheist

Dec 3, 2008

Finally freethought has been mainstreamed in our nation. It is about time that a growing coalition of scientists, mathematicians, doctors, educators and intelligentsia have decided to stop keeping us all a big secret. Atheists, Humanists & non-religious people outnumber all religions except Catholics as a group. I "pray" that Congressmembers, bureaucrats & Obama get it, we're here, we are helping & we must not be kept 2nd class citizens with the lie: "In god We Trust." Restore our national motto "E PLURIBUS UNUM" so that all of us are equal secular citizens & belief can be a private affair. McCarthyism must be repealed. Praying to the flag sends the wrong signal to our children. We are all under a Constitution, not any alleged deity. Larry Carter Center 843-926-1750

 

Jack

Dec 3, 2008

The Examiner's contention that Metro received 251 complaints to one call of support sound fishy. I saw the Examiner headline this morning that played this up, and, knowing DC, it doesn't sound right. Anyway, I greatly support Metro's acceptance of the ads, and am glad the Humanist Association is getting some exposure.

 

Jack

Dec 3, 2008

The Examiner's contention that Metro received 251 complaints to one call of support sound fishy. I saw the Examiner headline this morning that played this up, and, knowing DC, it doesn't sound right. Anyway, I greatly support Metro's acceptance of the ads, and am glad the Humanist Association is getting some exposure.

 

bill

Dec 3, 2008

Well, here comes Islam anxious to fill the "void" in our increasingly faithless country. Unfortunately,they don't share the same "openess" about alternative religious expression.

 

MRFD

Dec 3, 2008

@cnodaddy You've perfectly summed up the irony of the atheist ad campaign. Atheists in the more secular UK launched a similar campaign in their country, which caused MORE people to discuss God. So, as usual, God turns evil intentions (mocking Christianity) in order to do good (make atheists think about Him).

 

MRFD

Dec 3, 2008

One more interesting thing. The atheist ad says there is PROBABLY no God. Clearly, these atheists' faith in God's "non-existence" is shaky at best.

 

MM

Dec 3, 2008

Who cares? It's a sign, that's all. Let's all fight aids, or something.

 

bfp

Dec 3, 2008

We need more of this. Questioning faith is healthy and LONG overdue - it deserves no more respect or deference than any other opinion.

 

efk

Dec 3, 2008

How can you complain about this? Just be a decent person - there are no prerequisites.

 

AmericanAtheist

Dec 3, 2008

BE GOOD FOR GOODNESS SAKE is violated, not followed by Teresa of Calcutta. All of the comments below are somewhat relevant EXCEPT THE LIE THAT a nun named Teresa was an "Atheist for 50 years." I would not be so offended by such gibberish, if it were NOT FOR THE FACT THAT TERESA killed so many people by assuming all were going to die, when simple medicine could have saved many. Holding someone's hand & having nuns & lunatics pray while you die is insanely cruel, not a good deed at all. Teresa of Calcutta, undeserving of her acclaim. American Atheists are insulted by anyone who tries to bury her in our camp.

 

darter22

Dec 3, 2008

The people who are complaining about this ad are the ones who need to hear it the most. America is big enough for all of us.

 

Steve Bosell

Dec 3, 2008

What a refreshing show of the diversity of religious (or not) thought in America. Way to to DC!

 

Patrick

Dec 4, 2008

Aren't all the "I'll pray for you" comments just another way of saying "I'm too stupid to add anything of value to this conversation"? That's pretty much how that comment affects us.

 

slowe

Dec 4, 2008

one complaint said: “That ad is obscene to me!? I wouldn’t want my children reading that.” So, children must be brailwashed and sheilded from questions in order for this belief system or philosophy to survive? I say: Good ridence to it!

 

slowe

Dec 4, 2008

one complaint said: “That ad is obscene to me!? I wouldn’t want my children reading that.” So, children must be brailwashed and sheilded from questions in order for this belief system or philosophy to survive? I say: Good ridence to it!

 

ted01

Dec 4, 2008

How is this any different than the ads that the Catholic Archdiocise of Washington runs on Metro cars asking people to "Come home for Christmas" and celebrate the birth of Christ?

 

ted01

Dec 4, 2008

How is this any different that the Metro ads the Catholic Archdiocise of Washington runs asking people to beleive in God?

 

Darth Wader

Dec 4, 2008

If you pray for me, does that mean I can think for you?

 

SomeLikeItHot

Dec 4, 2008

Love the sign. It's a great counter to the religous zealots that have ruined this country and placed Bush in power. Stop voting with your brain and not your false beliefs. Religions are just cults with more members.

 

Barbie2

Dec 4, 2008

On these ads: I feel someone has finally spoken for me. Lots of us who did not have a religion of any sort, are contributors to our communities (helping to feed the poor, volunteering at hospitals, et al). You might notice that we are the ones who forego the "under God" clause in the constitution. And we are the ones who are quiet while the religionists have their say.

 

WRMartin

Dec 4, 2008

Add 1 vote for the bus ads from me. I am also extremely tired of religion being shoved at me without considering my feelings that religion is a crutch for the deranged. Why can't people be good for goodness sake? Oh yeah, we need a babysitter in the sky to look out for us and comfort us when it rains because we all know without that babysitter we wouldn't have any morals whatsoever. No babysitter means a billion or so Christians would be mass murderers and rape little babies.

 

Alan

Dec 4, 2008

All the Christians doing the complaining will be people who regularly give money to Benny Hinn and Pat Robertson believing in their “healing power”.

 

James

Dec 4, 2008

Here are some thoughts after seeing the ads and reading the comments: The add appears to be worded in a way to provoke thought and discussion. It seems to be doing that here, but it is also bound to upset those who feel that some things should never be questioned. Yet, the idea of "good for goodness sake" perplexes me too. "Goodness" does not exist without a mind to conceive of it. Rather I think that the human animal is hard-wired for a social existence; we have a better chance of surviving if we co-operate. Anything that helps us do that - empathy, compassion, "goodness" -- is an advantage. So be good for survival's sake.

 

Kentman513

Dec 4, 2008

@Powzie: If you're trying to insinuate that Hitler was an atheist, I think we both know you're lying. Hitler was in fact an avowed Catholic, and he believed he was doing "God's" work by exterminating the Jews, the killers of Jesus. It's no wonder modern Christians resemble Nazis in oh-so-many ways. @MRFD: If this ad is "mocking Christianity" (as opposed to mocking all the other religions that believe in an invisible magic man in the sky who makes the rains by urinating, or whatever nonsense you freaks believe), and is an "evil intention," then are all the crosses littering the South "mocking atheism and agnosticism," and equally "evil intentions," or are you a hypocrite like just about every Christian I know? Finally, I'm a little surprised that there are so many left-wing thinkers that read this obviously right-wing-spewing paper. I'm not sure how I feel about that... Go AHA! Bring light to the dim-witted!

 

Life

Dec 4, 2008

No, we cannot make them believe in God...It is their choice. But honestly, they miss out in having a full life that comes with knowing the Father and One who created the universe and us. And having the freedom that comes with having Jesus who gives us true life. Plus I can't imagine life without the Holy Spirit...it'll just be empty...And no knowledge or connection with Heaven or angels? Not good...(The list goes on and on with reasons why they simply miss out by choosing to live without God. I'd rather have Him!!! I feel so rich! Even when things around me are not going the way we would like them to, I know I have someone greater than those things and that brings comfort...but again, that is their choice to not believe! Although it is His desire that they do believe and know that He loves them.)

 

hyoid

Dec 4, 2008

good bus, good bus, good bus.

 

Jon Katz

Dec 4, 2008

People that still believe in God are funny. Personally I believe I was brought here by Santa Claus.

 

CoolChik

Dec 4, 2008

I think the ads are a sign of the times. Many people have become disgusted with religion and religious messages (eyes rolling). This is a religious message with a different twist. It's perfectly okay to have a different opinion and according the the First Amendment, to express it. What bothers me is the general belief from the writers that God is waiting to zap you if you are not good. Unlike Santa (you better watch out!), He didn't come to condemn you; He came to give you a more full life. Who doesn't want that? Anyway, if you don't want to celebrate the God of Christmas, then just wait for the atheist holiday - April Fools Day. "The fool says in his heart, there is no god."

 

Twon82

Dec 4, 2008

If you're belief in your god is so strong, than the ad doesn't matter anyway, does it? It's as if people questioning a god's existence is insulting to them. It's called critically thinking.

 

Loki

Dec 4, 2008

@CoolChik: "The wise man says it to the world"

 

dez

Dec 5, 2008

Why believe in humanism?

 

dez

Dec 5, 2008

And, by the way, in the absence of God, who decides what is "good"?

 

JesusFreak666

Dec 8, 2008

I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the people responsible for these signs are going to Hell. Baby Jesus will come back and say, "wtf, mate?" and you'll all burn in a river of molten marshmallows.

 

lifechangingelder

Dec 17, 2008

"There is none good but one, that is, God." Matthew 19:17

 

steamy01

Jan 27, 2009

Dez, humans like me decide what is good. And I decided long ago that the christian god, as portrayed in the bible, was no good at all.

 

Mel032087

Jan 30, 2009

Im writing to complaining about dc metro bus. I have called numerous of times about a bus route and they don't tell me the bus runs anymore. Then they don't tell me that bus even comes during the morning. I am very frustrated at the metro bus system.

 

Sunny

Feb 5, 2009

There is no need to get panic They are talking about god with small 'g'.Especially with all small gods in the soil of America We need an education to tell the public that these gods are fake and futile. Why we need to belive in them? Let AHA pay for it.

 


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