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Tysons Corner ad shocks Vietnam vets

By: Michael Neibauer
Examiner Staff Writer
June 9, 2009

Photo courtesy of Dave Stroup.

Prominent Vietnam veterans and their families are appalled by an advertisement for a major local mall that shows a woman in front of a wall that strongly resembles the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, with the names of the center’s stores appearing instead of the names of the war dead.

Tysons Corner Center reacted quickly to condemnation from the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund and ordered the immediate removal of 440 of the ads from the Metrorail cars where they have been posted, mall spokeswoman Allison Fischer said Tuesday afternoon.

The Tysons ad features a black granite wall engraved with a list of shops over the slogan, “It’s time to defrost.” The store names are presented in virtually the same font on a highly reflective surface like the Vietnam Memorial. There is an image in the background of a what could be a rose, a flower commonly left at the Wall.

“There’s no question my generation will see this as The Wall,” said Marshall Carter, chairman of the New York Stock Exchange and a veteran of two tours in Vietnam. “There’s no getting around it. It jumps right off the page.”

Jan Scruggs, founder and president of the Vietnam Veteran Memorial Fund, said the ad is an “obvious and blatant misuse of the image of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, which has a serious place in America's heart and soul.” More than 58,000 American men and women died in the war.

“There is nothing clever about this ad,” Scruggs said. “It is, rather, both distasteful and disgusting.”

The poster was spotted on an afternoon Red Line train and photographed by Dave Stroup, who writes for the blog Why I Hate DC. Metro spokeswoman Lisa Farbstein said Tysons paid $56,000 for a one-month run of the so-called “rail car card.”

“We honor the First Amendment, just like most newspapers do,” Farbstein told The Examiner before the mall said it would have the ads removed. “It’s a freedom of speech issue.”

In a statement, Fischer said Tysons holds “nothing but the greatest respect for the men and women who have served this country and we apologize to the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund for any unintentional similarities” to the Wall.

“We are responding to the Fund's request and are moving quickly to remove this advertisement,” she said. “The ad design, which was developed as an evolution of the long-standing Tysons Corner Center campaign ‘Where the Stores are,’ was not intended to emulate any representation of the Memorial Wall.”

Veterans, however, were horrified.

“That the Wall be exploited for a buck is hateful,” Retired Rear Admiral George Worthington said in an e-mail. “I'd even suggest boycotting Tyson's Corner stores; they don't sell anything you can't buy at another mall.”

J. M. Martin, a disabled Vietnam Veteran, said the “tasteless” ad offends those who served and dishonors those who died. It is analogous, he said, “to having a family’s gravestone depicted as commercial advertisement.” Pascual Goicoechea, chief of operations at Ft. Bragg in North Carolina, called the ad a “Madison Avenue flop.”

mneibauer@washingtonexaminer.com



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Esther B. Campbell Gates, Gold Star Mother

Jun 9, 2009

I am the mother of a "name" on the WALL,
Sp/4 Keith Allen Campbell, DSC, BSM, PH,
I am horrified at the indignity and blatent dishonor of the ad. The families of those "names" on the Wall and all Vietnam Veterans should sue Tysons Corners for even considering running such blasphemy.

 

Hussein=Commie

Jun 9, 2009

I didn't realize Hussein Obimbo had taken over the Advertising Industry also.

That little moslem would do something exactly like this.

 

J.P. Orso

Jun 9, 2009

While I agree that the above ad is very offensive to Nam vets and someone really dropped the ball on this, I don't understand the relevance of the Hussein=Commie post

 

Mike R.

Jun 9, 2009

I saw those signs up last week and just thought it went along with the advertising campaign they've had for the past couple of years with the names of the stores on models and shopping bags.

I think it's a stretch for anyone to be offended--you'd really have to be looking hard for something to be offended by.

The people who are complaining are probably the same ones who stand in front of the White House with signs. People need to lighten up.

 

David Adams

Jun 9, 2009

This is a strange one; I worked in advertising and I know that ads must be seen and approved before they are run. In this 'ad' the first thing you think of is the wall. Someone reviewing the ad must have at least seen pictures of the wall - and raised some kind of doubt.

 

Esther Campbell Gates

Jun 9, 2009


For "Mike R" Have you ever lost someone you loved who died for our great nation?

 

Bon'Fire

Jun 9, 2009

I would rather see a billboard with Obama on it with the question, Where's the Birth Certificate?

 

Judy C. Campbell

Jun 9, 2009

Immediately upon seeing this ad, I gasped and then I sat back and said, “It’s Time to Defrost”, huh? Perhaps there was no intention on the part of the designer of this ad to have such a known reference to The Vietnam Veteran Memorial Wall, but clearly those that approved this ad should take a walk the length of The Vietnam Veteran Memorial Wall and offer their apologies to the over 58,000 names on The Wall! The design of the Vietnam Veteran Memorial Wall has clearly been known for its reflective black granite and the rose is symbolic. There is no doubt this ad is reflective of The Wall and never should have been approved.

 

Richard Thoren

Jun 9, 2009

What does defrosting have to do with anything now that it is summer? That should have been an early spring advertisement. Its 85 degrees outside!

 

E. M. K.

Jun 9, 2009

I understand that some may see it as a stretch to be offended but I believe that is only possible if they are not familiar with images of the Wall. To anyone who has seen images of the Wall, the similarity is beyond striking and when the slogan "it's time to defrost" is considered the combination is appalling. Even if the slogan is not taken in reference to the Wall-like image, using the image alone is completely unnecessary and distasteful. Also, as commented, it's not even a good ad.

 

Mr Wolf

Jun 9, 2009

This goes to show the callous indifference shown to veterans and veterans issues by those in the 'creative industries'. Their lack of knowledge, understanding, and sympathy for the sacrifices that ALLOW them to be creative is appaling.
Anyone with a GOOD education would have understood the extreme significance of the imagery surrounding the Wall. As one of THE MOST visited sites in DC, you would expect them to understand the reverence most 'normal' Americans attach to it.

Shame.

Mr Wolf
oh, and Brooke- more holes in that 'certificate' than Columbo could expose in a years worth of shows...
IF you know who Columbo was...

 

Ann Y. Sherman Wolcott

Jun 9, 2009

I have an 18 year old son on that Wall who died in Vietnam, honorably.
I used to take him to Tyson's Corner to shop..We thought it was the best shopping center in the USA....
NO MORE...I am too hurt by your display

of disrespect and lack of feeling to comment further, but I can assure you that I will NEVER shop at Tyson's again nor will the thousands of people whom I communicate with go there....ever !!
Past National President, American Gold Star Mothers, Inc.

 

Lisa Gough

Jun 9, 2009

The Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund, as well as veterans and families of those whose names are on The Wall, were appalled when we saw this ad. It turns out that the owners of Tysons Corner Mall were also appalled when we contacted them and pointed out the resemblance of their ad to The Wall. As the article states, these ads have been immediately removed from over 400 Metro trains and are also being removed from inside the mall itself. VVMF appreciates this quick response and recognizes that the owners of Tysons Corner are taking this error very seriously.
Lisa Gough
Director of Communications
Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund

 

shopaholic

Jun 9, 2009

I have lived in this area for 13 years and have always known Tysons Corner Center to have the ad campaign with the store names behind a model displaying a trendy outfit with styles that the stores at Tysons offer. I don't think ANY company trying to promote and get exposure would ever try to disrespect or dishonor a National Memorial. Although I will hand it to you, this particular ad does resemble it, take a look at all their previous ads and you would not even make the connection! I'm sure that who ever approved this ad is so use to seeing their ads in a similar style and wasn't even making a connection between their commonly used ad and the Vietnam War Memorial. Kudos to Tysons for taking this scrutiny with such grace and responding quickly when they realized their mistake. I will still shop at Tysons and I will make sure that the thousands of people whom I communicate with will too! :)

 

Bart

Jun 9, 2009

I would like to know the name of the Ad Agency, and particularly the names on the team. They need some 'exposure' too, don't you think?

 

Robert

Jun 9, 2009

1 for Shopaholic

 

spy

Jun 9, 2009

Just another bad swipe at vets..
If you want to use... then pay up there are many vets org. that need money..
I suggest you start at least million, because if were not for the Vets you would not be free to do anything like this.

 

www.VirtualWall.org

Jun 9, 2009

The attempt to look like the Vietnam Veterans Memorial is disgusting.

It dishonors the fallen and insults their families.

 

LRRP67-70

Jun 10, 2009

so8nds like more liberal BOHICA to me

 

GinnyPub

Jun 10, 2009

What marketing firm could possibly be this stupid?

 

Observer

Jun 10, 2009

This was certainly a needlessly offensive move on the part of the ad agency. For all those who say that veterans of the Vietnam war somehow fought to protect America, please take a second look at the history. The war accomplished nothing other than the death of millions of innocents and disgrace to our country. Veterans should be honored as victims, not heroes.

 

Still an Independent thinker

Jun 10, 2009

This sacred wall is a memorial to all who gave their lives in the name of freedom. Unfortunately, we are seeing those who take it as a given not an earned privilege. We are seeing the results of not-thinking-it-through-before-doing-it mentality. My heart goes out to those who have served, and again, are being rewounded by another thoughtless moment. Thank you, to all who have served and strived to preserve our Country's greatest gift. Freedom!! You have sacrificed so much, so we wouldn't have to at home. Again, Thank You.

 

Steph

Jun 10, 2009

I'm a Vietnam Vet. (Army Nurse Corps). I was offended by the ad but what really was offensive were some of the comments I have read on this site. Since Jan 20, 2009 I have been learning that there are a lot of people who don't deserve the right to be Americans. I guess their parents ignored them and they were never taught manners or respect. We'll see how this all works for them in the next six months. They,like BO, were not taught by a parent they were raised with the idea that everyone owes them. Good Luck with that. I'm very proud to be a Nam Vet.

 

K

Jun 10, 2009

I saw this ad last week on the red line and once I processed that I was really seeing what I thought I was seeing, I was disgusted. I couldn't believe that someone would be so ignorant as to use a symbol honoring those who died serving our country in an ad for a mall. I'm glad to hear that the signs are being removed. I hope Tyson's Corner is looking for a new advertising agency.

 

Mark E Laser

Jun 11, 2009

It is a sad sign of the times. Using the lives of brave men and women in an attempt to make a dollar.This affront reminds me of the profits made, past and present, from the sale of arms during a war.

 

G

Jun 11, 2009

I was Shocked to see that Some feel as if they can do whatever They want to becauce They feel that it is the Right Thing to do. As a Viet Nam Vet All of Those First to Need to Earn that Right. All of Us that Served Our Country have done So, Let Others do the Same. Why would You Dishonor Those that Have Served Our Nation with Some Stupid Idea or Coment. First Earn the Right to Speak Out against anything.

 

Tzimtzum

Jun 11, 2009

Though Tyson's Corner removed the ads, the matter should not end here. The Tyson's Corner managers responsible for allowing a scenario such as this to occur should all be fired.

 

Jun 11, 2009

You all need to get a life

 

Pauline

Jun 11, 2009

I'm out of the loop. What does "time to defrost" mean? Could it be a way of saying "chill out" about the ad? That would explain the indifference of whoever o.k'd the ad...

 

Star King

Jun 12, 2009

Observer:
The fact that scumbag politicians sent us to fight a war on false pretenses does not alter our reasons for fighting.
We fought for Freedom and to defend America.
Blame the lying politicians, not us, and pay a little attention: they are as dishonest now as they were then if not more so.

 

LA

Jun 13, 2009

How sad that anyone would use the image of The Wall for such advertising. Even sadder are those that CANNOT understand WHY a vet, family or friends of a vet or patriotic citizens are offended. Is this hateful disrespect what Obama was talking about with all his "change"? Seems like it to me. God, please Bless America!!!

 

jon

Jun 13, 2009

Just re-read steph.

 

Willy Hoot

Jun 16, 2009

What's the fuss? This is Amurika, Land of Super Consumption and the rubber-stamp dollar. Aren't we all rich and have silver-tongued salesmen for our Leeders????

 

test

Jun 30, 2009

sd

 

.Thwade Chabbin

Dec 22, 2009

Like C'mon dudes Lighten up. I mean y'all committed war crimes on an astronomic scale and came back all zoned out.

 

llg

Jan 17, 2010

It's pathetic when young people with an obvious lack of history and inability to fathom the common courtesy of empathy to the families who lost their loved ones during a war ... any war ... by using the lack of judgment to propagandize a National Memorial for a cheap ad.
This is not creative communications.

It is also shameful that some of these comments neglect that simple significance: the emotional compassion and respect of the fallen.

 


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