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Man killed by VP's Secret Service vehicles

By: Scott McCabe
Examiner Staff Writer
November 12, 2009

(TIM SLOAN/AFP/Getty Images)

Two U.S. Secret Service armored vehicles used to protect Vice President Biden struck and killed a pedestrian in Temple Hills early Wednesday morning, authorities said.

The vehicles were traveling together from Andrews Air Force Base at about 2:30 a.m. when the pedestrian was hit at the intersection of Suitland Parkway and Naylor Road in Temple Hills, U.S. Park Police said.

The drivers stayed on the scene and rendered first aid until police and rescue officials arrived, said Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan.

The pedestrian, an adult male, was transported to Prince George's Hospital Center in Cheverly with multiple critical injuries, police said. He was pronounced dead shortly thereafter.

The armored sport utility vehicle and limousine were occupied only by Secret Service employees and were not carrying the vice president or any other dignitaries, said Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan.

The vehicles, part of a fleet used to protect the vice president, were used to whisk Biden during his trip to Fort Lewis, Wash., and were heading back to a garage at the time of the incident. The armored cars were transported to and from Fort Lewis on military planes. The vice president was there to speak at a memorial service Tuesday for seven soldiers who were killed Oct. 27 in Afghanistan when their vehicle exploded after being struck by an improvised explosive device.

Biden returned to Andrews much earlier and was already at his residence at the U.S. Naval Observatory in Northwest Washington at the time of the incident, Donovan said.

Police have not released the pedestrian's identity pending notification of family. Park Police were still investigating the incident and had not determined a cause.

smccabe@washingtonexaminer.com



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Freemon Sandlewould

Nov 11, 2009

Both this guy and the families of the Fort Hood victims should sue the Obummer admin for extreme negligence in duty. Its a pity when people have to die for the smoke being blown up our arrsses

 

Chris G.

Nov 11, 2009

You know, for years I've been saying that the way SS tears up the DC streets in their trucks will result with an pedestrian getting killed. I hope. No, I PRAY, that this incident is a reality check to all of the SS behind the wheel, thinking that they're better than everyone else on the road. Doesn't matter who you outrank when you kill someone by accident, buddy boy.

 

Hurricane

Nov 11, 2009

Must be W's fault!

 

1415dr

Nov 11, 2009

The Marquis de Evermonde is at it again.

 

Sharp

Nov 11, 2009

Everyone who lives in DC and/or works downtown has been afraid this would be them. The Secret Service are very inconsiderate drivers, especially when it comes to pedestrians. Maybe now someone higher up will get wind of the problem, and something will be done about it. I'm not going to count on it, though.

 

rufrignkidnme

Nov 11, 2009

er.. manslaughter charges are going to be brought against the driver I assume.. lol but we know what assumeing anything does especially in these times when nothing quite makes sense.

 

trickyricky

Nov 11, 2009

sounds like manslaughter charges are in order.

 

Baffled

Nov 11, 2009

I love the way the media spins stories about SUVs killing people. It was a person who killed that pedestrian dummies. The car has no brain! Neither do you.

 

Peter

Nov 11, 2009

Not a car crash. A total train wreck - that's what this presidency has been so far.

 

Brian

Nov 11, 2009

I don't want to prejudge the situation, but these are generally pretty young guys and they drive like madmen. I worked in the District for 11 years and I never saw them observe the speed limit once.

The money of the peasants don't matter, why should their lives? I'm sure they were in a real hurry because it was official business right?

 

Lulu Skates

Nov 11, 2009

Why protect Biden? Does anyone really care?
I don't think he should be allowed to run around loose. He's not the brightest bulb in the candelabra

 

Bigger is Better

Nov 11, 2009

Too bad they weren't driving tiny armored hybrids - the fellow might have lived.

 

Achmed

Nov 11, 2009

..I just heard the driver was muslim

 

area_man

Nov 11, 2009

I love the reference to the Marquis St. Evrémonde from A tale of Two Cities.

That's exactly what I thought of when I read this, and also what came to mind when I heard about Corzine's 91mph mishap a while back, as well as Rendell's known penchant for high-speed motorcades.

As Dumas pointed out, however, that kind of utter contempt for the "commoners" has its consequences...

 

bluedun

Nov 11, 2009

Wonder if these drivers were speeding. Methinks they don't care about the speed limits. After all, they are members of the Secret Service and probably think the rules don't apply to them. Sad, very sad.

 

whodunit

Nov 11, 2009

I would like to hear from anyone in the SS if any of them would be willing to "take one" for Obummer.

 

Darrel

Nov 11, 2009

Will Obama say the Secret Service acted stupidly? Only if they killed a radical black racist no doubt.

 

Ghostrider

Nov 11, 2009

Way to go Amtrack Joe!!

 

Intrepid 530

Nov 11, 2009

The Secret Service's secret motto is....
"So many pedestrians,so little time"

 

David from San Diego

Nov 11, 2009

Of course, anyone who posts about this story will be added to the Homeland Security Department's database of people who dare to have opinions and can therefore be dangerous. You know, like veterans and Ron Paul supporters.

 

Dr Chris H Rolf DVM

Nov 11, 2009

It is the ignorance of arrogance or visa versa....... 2:30 am ..what's the rush? Under the influence?

 

griffin

Nov 11, 2009

It's a pitty Republicans are idiots, all mindless morons led by bigger idiots.

 

dessertgirl

Nov 11, 2009

I hope that the drivers are charged with MURDER. It is time for the Secret Service and police and rescue trucks to start adhering to laws of the road. There is no need for speed unless the President or VP is mortally wounded and on the way to the hospital.

These drivers should be released from the Secret Service and charged with the full extent of the law.

 

Dessertgirl

Nov 11, 2009

Darrel, I think this calls for a beer in the kids' playground, don't you? Obama will say that the pedestrian was at fault. He will never take responsibility for his actions.

 

troy

Nov 11, 2009

A cop in Milford ,Ct was just arrested for killing 2 teenagers while he was speeding in a police cruiser at 3 am. Same thing here?

 

Helen Highwater

Nov 11, 2009

These D.C. guys must go green -- better yet, no driving around at all.

 

Lew

Nov 11, 2009

This one will disappear fast.

 

Doug

Nov 11, 2009

Hey Griffin,

What in the hell does your comment have to do with the article? Seek some mental health care.

 

Kevin Stowell

Nov 11, 2009

Greater love hath no slave than to lay down his life for his master...

 

Publius

Nov 11, 2009

Just curious. Will this make the news as much as Dick Cheney's hunting accident that did not kill anyone?

 

miker5

Nov 11, 2009

This isn't news! Cheney accidentally peppering his hunting buddy with some buckshot--THAT was NEWS! Although congress called for an investigation of Cheney's wingshooting skills, this Biden incident won't even get mentioned by the mainstream media.

 

miker5

Nov 11, 2009

Darn you, Publius. You beat me to it!

 

Airborne869

Nov 11, 2009

Biden reminds me of Lt. Frank Drebin, on The Naked Gun. A complete dunce !

 

RandalH

Nov 11, 2009

Cheney may wing 'em with a little birdshot, but it takes Biden and his entourage to really lay 'em out!

 

John

Nov 11, 2009

Did the SS "act stupidly?" Or at the least will our man-child president say as much?

 

JanineC

Nov 11, 2009

Oh griffin, you are just so wise and eloquent. You also show reason and thoughtfulness in your post. I am honored to meet such an educated and truly brilliant lefty as yourself. Thank you for making my day..no my whole week! I wouldn't have survived had I not heard such gracious words of wisdom!

 

TexasPatriot

Nov 11, 2009

Somebody might want to see if Joe was driving this time. He IS a touch senile, you know . . .

 

Mark in OK

Nov 11, 2009

http://okietransplant.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/democratic-roadkill/

 

Anne

Nov 11, 2009

So will the press cover this like they did the Cheny accidental shooting (when he was hunting)? No. Of course not. So, let's just blame this on Bush and get on with it.

 

Jack Ziegler

Nov 11, 2009

Dessertgirl: Just how is President Obama responsible for this tragedy? Do you people hate the president so much that you have to blame him for something like this? You are all sick, get a life!

Last year there was an election, Republican right wing wacko's lost! Learn to live with it! Better yet move to Texas and urge Rick Perry to secede from the union, and start your own country. Of course you would have to kick all the hispanics, blacks, and asian's out. That shouldn't be a problem because with you there it wouldn't be a very nice place.

 

kYSKEK

Nov 11, 2009

At least they stopped to give emergency care. 2:30 AM pedestrians should be the ones looking for traffic when crossing the street, not drivers crossing an intersection with a green light.

 

Bob

Nov 11, 2009

John - child is more correct and accurate - not man-child.

 

M Hofer

Nov 11, 2009

We do prejudge don't we even before we have any facts. Someone help us all!

 

Dimesworth

Nov 11, 2009

Don't know why Biden needs SS anyway. No one would waste their time trying to smoke that idiot.

 

The Ruling Class

Nov 11, 2009

A stupid peon won a Darwin Award, no big deal.

You peasants better learn to stay out of the way of your Imperial Masters and their motorcades.

This is no longer a free country. It is now divided into the Ruling Elite, Thug Scum, and the Enslaved Taxpayers.

 

JasonW

Nov 11, 2009

kYSKEK is exactly right.

 

Northeast Elite

Nov 11, 2009

Good idea Mr. Ziegler, with the exception of Austin,Travis County, and the Texas Hills Country.

 

Jekyll

Nov 11, 2009

As the blood and dust are ground into the cement, Caesar and his minnions blithely continue on their way, unmindful of the speed bumps in their way.

 

Tom

Nov 11, 2009

I hope the SS get sued. They think they are the new gestapo.

 

Publius

Nov 11, 2009

Joe Biden MUST be guarded. He is Obama's insurance policy. As long as Biden is healthy, Obama is safe. Even I would not want President Biden!

 

thgirbla

Nov 11, 2009

Does this mean that Biden can be charged with accessory to murder???
Oh, please let that be so !!!

 

scott

Nov 11, 2009

It was Bush's fault

 

Joe Idiot

Nov 11, 2009

I am sorry for the victim but agree with most of the posts that JoeBama and ChenneyLight will not get much negative press here.

 

babies

Nov 11, 2009

I eat babies

 

Hmm

Nov 11, 2009

Anyone notice this story was written tomorrow?

 

YourallDumb

Nov 11, 2009

Doug,
well he makes a good point all you dumb republicans have nothing on Obama so you blame a SS' actions on him and Joe?, look at these comments!, these people cant draw a line between A----B and like many people think, they shouldnt be allowed to vote! The easily brainwashed right is nothing but Mentaly challenged Morons anymore thats why I left the Party this year. It is sad...real sad but they need to be in hospitals not voting booths.

 

liberalismizamentaldisorder

Nov 11, 2009

....the SS guys were too busy checking out their new scheduling software on their laptops to notice a pedestrian.

 

SafTman

Nov 11, 2009

The VP was in our small beach town in NJ during the summer and he stayed on a one way residential street along the beach which is usually crowded with walkers and bicycles. We were biking by the homestead one morning and these guys in the suv's came zooming around the corner....my sister or one of us could have been this victim. Too much drama....gosh it is only Biden.

 

scott

Nov 11, 2009

YourallDumb
thank you for leaving the party. You will fit in over there in Obama land a mental midget like your self will not be missed

 

yourevendumber

Nov 11, 2009

Youralldumb,
Now that's an extreme case of the pot calling the kettle black.

 

Andre

Nov 11, 2009

Obama kills another one. Another one rides the bus... another one rides the bus...

 

David

Nov 11, 2009

Park Police were still investigating the incident and had not determined a cause.

I know the cause. They ran over someone.
Thats the cause.

 

Barney

Nov 11, 2009

No one would have to "secede" from the Union if the Union would just back off a bit and let states run themselves. That way San Francisco can be the way it wants to be, and Tulsa can be how it wants to be. But the statists can't abide that, so I guess I'm moving to Texas.

 

HOWARD HOFELICH

Nov 11, 2009

I think it was Janet Reno they ran over..she was drunk and was mumbling about some cigar that Clinton gave her and that she was truly sorry for smoking all those peopel at Waco. The SS guys would have none of it...and showed her the way out...hope they dont ever take one for the prez.

 

Not as STUPID as YourallDumb

Nov 11, 2009

Okey Dokey Hoss- Have you heard of grammar? Thanks for leaving the party and taking Specter with you. Obviously, we miss both of you very much. It has been a traumatic experience so far. I hope we can pull through it. Oh wait; YES, We Can!

 

sensible_Repub

Nov 11, 2009

kYSKEK
you are absolutely right, if any of these jerks hit a jaywalker, they would certainly say it was his fault. but because it is a poloticians bodygaurd they must somehow equate the "crime" to Obama since he is for everything they are not.....reasoning and common sense.

 

Keith

Nov 11, 2009

Secret Service have been driving recklessly for years. I've seen it on several occasions. (And boo to anyone who is making this a conservative-liberal argument. You sound like idiots.)

 

Warren

Nov 11, 2009

Biden, like his boss Obama, really doesn't give a sh*t about this latest incidence.

 

Nov 11, 2009

Dessertgirl says..."Obama will say that the pedestrian was at fault. He will never take responsibility for his actions." ha ha aha hahah ahaha ahaaaa omg typical fox viewer, "his actions"..."Obama"....lol. Learn how to read, you will be less affraid of the world once you can understand something. I mean really is that all repubs got? obama wasnt even around lady! go hide in your panic rooms cause big purple Democrat monsters are coming to eat your force-aborted fetus's you dumb right-wingnutz!!!


 

sensible_Repub IS A POSER

Nov 11, 2009

Reasoning and common sense? Show me when and where.

 

sas473

Nov 11, 2009

tommorrow the headline will be:
man killed by 9mm bullet of ss agent!

guns don't kill people - people kill people!

 

RussRamey6

Nov 11, 2009

What is all the political crap about, a Secret Service team made a serious operational mistake. Someone died and someone will probably lose their position. Tried hopefully in a court of law by their peers and not the MSM or PC police.
Nuthin to do with GW, BHO, or Joe Biden...sad and tragic but yesh! Get a grip people! How aboout the poor families of both driver and victim?
Deep breath, relax and be thankfull it wasn't your family...prayer might be more appropriate.

 

rational_relic

Nov 11, 2009

To DessertGirl and a few others on here: can you please explain to me how either Obama or Biden are responsible for how someone else drives when neither were present in the vehicle? I don't remember this kind of call for negligence charges from the right when the republican VP actually did shoot a man in the face. Apparently BOTH parties are whining, hateful, sore losers when their candidates don't make it. You all could at least wait until all the details are released before starting to misplace blame.

 

YourallDumb

Nov 11, 2009

to:Not as STUPID as YourallDumb,
Ya just like how Mccain won last year without me and the millions of others your sheeting from your party, Moron!

 

JackL

Nov 11, 2009

The S.S. agents were speeding big time, according to local EMS officals. It's ok. Nothing will happen to the S.S. agents, and as long as Biden arrived at his destination sucessfuly then thats what matters. Who cares about the peasents. If a few wretched scum get trampled while the elite are en route to pleasure themselves then so be it. Let them eat cake!

 

The Centurian

Nov 11, 2009

2:30 AM? Hmmm....Were the boys "out a drankin" like they were the night before JFK's assassination? Remember how long it took one of them to get up off his a.. when the Iraqi reporter was throwing his shoes at W. Bush? Ya'll make fun of W, but he was on his own that day and he did quite well. Joe may want to fire his driver and take the train from now on, even if the train is full of H1N1 sneezers.....

 

Sad

Nov 11, 2009

Why assume the driver is at fault?

 

DAK

Nov 11, 2009

Obama has found his Driving Czar!

 

PayAttention

Nov 11, 2009

To Sad: Obviously the driver is not at fault. If you had read the comments you would know it was either Obama or Bush. I'm not really sure which yet.

 

YourallDumb

Nov 11, 2009

Scott, thats why I have earned 3 Scholarships, have an MBA, belong to MENSA, and still strive to learn, its people like you that think you know everything that have limited your own minds to narrow paths of Beckisms. keep makin me laugh though I'm lovin it.

 

JamesD

Nov 11, 2009

The pedestrian was just acting stupidly by walking at that hour of the night.

 

If only...

Nov 11, 2009

You're right Centurion, Bush did do well that day. I just wished he could have dodged something important, like an unnecessary war or economic crisis. But yea, as far as shoe ducking goes he's definitely the man.

 

mack

Nov 11, 2009

it should have been a dirty mussie that got squished under that behemoth.

 

Darrel

Nov 11, 2009

Will Obama say the Secret Service acted stupidly? Only if they killed a radical black racist no doubt.

 

Dr. NO

Nov 11, 2009

some off you people are dumb, thay are saying it is BHO fault the way most dems were saying everything that happend when bush was pres. fault it is called trun about is fair play... dumb do we have to spell everything out for you, oh wait you can't remember past jan 1 this year

 

Sparks

Nov 11, 2009

All in the name to protect those two clowns. It's not worth it.

 

Hank Swenson

Nov 11, 2009

Wow, at least Cheney never killed anybody...There was that shooting accident but the guy survived...

 

yea, Hank, but...

Nov 11, 2009

Cheney actually did the shooting. Biden had nothing to do with this.

 

315er

Nov 11, 2009

Re: Urinal dumb (oh did I mispell that?)
Yup, Nobody can pontificate like a demogogue, er I mean a democrat.

 

Rick O'Shea

Nov 11, 2009

Hopefully the dead guy was a democrat.

 

ks6007

Nov 11, 2009

YourallDumb: All that education and brain power! You must have been absent the day they taught the difference between "your" and "you're." What would MENSA say?

 

GOP_IS_DESTORYED

Nov 11, 2009

It is really a tragic event and all of you are pinning it on Obama..How low will Repubs go? furthermore I find that the most tragic thing about this story, was that it wasnt Glenn Beck under the SUV!!

 

Humorbone

Nov 11, 2009

Lol, wow is this how repubs will win it in 2010?, "remember When 'Obama' ran over that pedestrian in 09 without remorse and absolute disregard for the innocent mans life" -FOX NEWS in 2010

 

Ronald

Nov 11, 2009

One of the secret service's job is to protect the president and vice president. To do this they usually have to drive at high speeds to prevent an attacker from getting a lock on the vehicles. That said is these guys were not protecting the VP or president when this man was run over. It is negligent manslaughter and should be tried as such. There should also be an IG investigation and several superior officers should be reprimanded or retired for allowing this callous and cavalier attitude to become prevalent in the secret service.

 

just a thinker...

Nov 11, 2009

Anyone check on Beck lately? They said they were not releasing the name... Im just sayin :)

 

Janie G

Nov 11, 2009

Did I read this right? BOTH VEHICLES hit the guy? BOTH???? D*mn! What was their hurry? Biden was already home while they were speed racing.

Like everything else with this administration, we will never hear the truth.

Poor guy got hit by a limo and an SUV... Americans are getting hit by a freight train out of control. GOD HELP US.

 

Republicant's

Nov 11, 2009

these comments are a testimony to why the GOP is losing ground on all issues, anyone who draws the conclusions that this article would be Obamas fault will not be followed. there is not one republican in the whole USA with an IQ over 70, and these comments and their ideals/issues prove this.

 

ole black joe

Nov 11, 2009

what's the big deal? Just another peasant getting in the way of our imperial government. God forbid Biden gets a hangnail- now that's news!

 

911TheInsideJob

Nov 11, 2009

these are the same people that think tower 7 was hit by a plane as well, and open jet fuel can melt steel and keep it melted for 7 days. I dont blame bush for knocking down the towers, Americans clearly deserve it, for not questioning it.

 

Smashicus

Nov 11, 2009

Youralldumb, all that "supposed" education and you're still dumb as a stump. Are you one of those intellectuals who can't do a tune-up on his vehicle? Can you hunt and feed your family? Can you do anything but throw taunts? Maybe you should be doing something more constructive with your superior brain-power than trying to picks fights with us "ignorant redknecks"

 

Nov 11, 2009

They should be charged with gross negligence and dereliction of duty, Biden & Obama. As for the limo driver's, there should be an investigation and they should be held accountable, just like the rest of us peon schlubs.

 

Chet Szymecki

Nov 11, 2009

I know the armored vehicles weigh nearly twice what the conventional versions of the same vehicles do. My question has always been the braking.

I doubt even the upgraded brakes are able to cope with a behemoth of a vehicle twice as heavy. Add excessive speed and the equation becomes so out of balance it is laughable.

 

Secretservice_killed_JFK

Nov 11, 2009

ya well he must have looked like JFK thats why they killed him.there is video showing the SS backing down and backing up seconds before JFK was shot look it up.

 

Die_GOP_die

Nov 11, 2009

Janie G, do you not have a brain?.. You parrot your party like a broken record.
did you know the men indited for this? because they both are not democrats, but republicans, Obama doesnt appoint them, control them or cover for them both these men were hired under the Bush Administration, so keep stomping on your bag of flaming dog-poo, it smells nice to the Dems!

 

Johnny Reb

Nov 11, 2009

@ 0230, I'm guessing this guy was drunk and wandered into the intersection.

 

The Centurian

Nov 11, 2009

To Chet Szymecki: You are absolutely correct. And all that you state is amplified even more, at 2:30 AM, when the bars close up!

 

Bush did it.

Nov 11, 2009

Bush did it. If not Bush, then Cheney did it. Mayber Haliburton did it. Rumsfeld in a conspiracy with John Ashcroft did it.

 

Ridiculous reporting

Nov 11, 2009

Per the article:

"Two U.S. Secret Service armored vehicles ... struck and killed a pedestrian."

and,

"The vehicles were traveling together from Andrews Air Force Base"

This kind of writing is beneath sophomoric. It's like saying "my knife sliced some tomato for a sandwich. Two slices of bread found their way onto my plate."

 

YourallDumb

Nov 11, 2009

well Smashicus,
I own 14 Rifles,3 handguns,2 compound bows, have never hired a mechanic, can whoop your arse, and I am a member of the NRA also. I believe in gun rights and can shoot better than you Anyday! I can hit a quarter at 300 yards with my .308 savage and I also have armor-peircing bullets for my M44 7.62 x 54r which I have shot through two v-8 engines back to back! dont forget I WAS a republican, just smart enough to know when I see brainwashing. and dont put quotes on things I didnt say ...proves my point.

 

CoolDrink

Nov 11, 2009

For those that hunt, you must respect each hunters signal before they fire.. The Man walked in front of Cheney after Cheney made his call, that is how he got shot. He was not paying attention.
Whoever is at fault concerning this accident should be prosecuted.

 

Ed Bridges

Nov 11, 2009

I saw the Presidential motorcade in Hawaii when Obama visited. The cars and motorcycles must have been going 95 mph. Totally uncalled for. I knew it was a matter of time before someone was killed.

 

Johnny Reb

Nov 11, 2009

YourallDumb wrote:

"Scott, thats why I have earned 3 Scholarships, have an MBA, belong to MENSA, and still strive to learn, its people like you that think you know everything that have limited your own minds to narrow paths of Beckisms. keep makin me laugh though I'm lovin it."

And to think that with 3 Scholarships, an MBA, and belonging to MENSA, you don't know the difference between "that" and "who." Standards at MENSA must have fallen a tad. And MBA, well lots of overeducated know-nothings out and about. Good thing we've got all you overeducated, self-righteous liberals to keep us dumbed down masses in line.

Me thinks me will side with Smashicus.

 

Asrai

Nov 11, 2009

There are no details. For all we know, the pedestrian could have been high or drunk, or stupid and careless.

None of that matters though because it's obvious that it is BUSH'S FAULT. Right? Right??? Beuller?

 

The Centurian

Nov 11, 2009

O.K. Mr. Editor of these comments. I'm on to ya! What happened...did I stike a nerve? Protecting your job, or do you have a relative in the American SS...Maybe the inference of a history of excessive drinking by members of this government agency? That's OK, you have shown your true colors...that's what I needed from the evening! I'll not bother you again.

 

Ridiculous reporting

Nov 11, 2009

Per the article:

"Two U.S. Secret Service armored vehicles ... struck and killed a pedestrian...."

and,

"The vehicles were traveling together from Andrews Air Force Base...."

This kind of writing is beneath sophomoric. It's like saying "my knife sliced some tomato for a sandwich. Two slices of bread found their way onto my plate."

 

Who's dumb?

Nov 11, 2009

YourallDumb -- the word is "you're." As in "you're dumb." it's a contraction for "you are." But, yeah, you can do it all, we know.

 

Comments disappearing and reapearring

Nov 11, 2009

I noticed some strange behavior on this forum. Comments appearing after hitting the "submit" button, then disappearing, then reappearing.

 

Kathleen

Nov 11, 2009

We should immediately stop protecting Joe Biden. It's just not worth it.

 

lindypin

Nov 11, 2009

Soldiers, seniors, babies, pedestrians...

Some lives seem more important than others to liberals, but this is a case of TIME being more important.

I'm sorry for all Americans.

 

True American

Nov 11, 2009

Biden should be investigated to explain why his driver performed this way.

Obama should be fired for being an idiot.

Nazi Pelosi should be jailed for taking American taxpayer money to fund her cross country extraveganzas.

Harry Reid should be jailed to protect innocent Americans.

Barney Frank should be jailed for being a thief.

youralldumb should be banned from this page for being a crybaby. Go somewhere else and let the grownups talk here.

 

Lamestream Media

Nov 11, 2009

I heard the driver was yelling 'Allah Akbar".....but seriously, the result will be a large civil settlement paying off the family to shut up and go away. There'll be no criminal charges or real investigation into whether they were obeying traffic laws etc.

Agree with someone else who posted it's analogous to the car wreck of a Presidency Obama is turning out to be.

 

qewrertf

Nov 11, 2009

oh dear

 

mom

Nov 11, 2009

how unfortunate for this person and their family...
but get ready Americans we are all going to be under the bus or killed by this Obummer administration
this accident is a sign of things to come...

 

Lance

Nov 11, 2009

See? Obama and Biden HATE Americans and so they have now resorted to killing us!

 

J. Robinette Biden

Nov 11, 2009

Mark my words: Gird your loins.

 

french fries

Nov 11, 2009

SS or also Schutzstaffel, created as bodyguard to protect and later expanded to take charge of intelligence, central security, policing action, and the mass extermination of those they considered inferior or undesirable.

 

Jose

Nov 11, 2009

And to think, Cheney merely wounded his buddy witha shotgun blast. When this administration does something, they really do it BIG!

 

Mike in Walla Walla

Nov 11, 2009

First, visibility conditions approaching the collision. Second, at 2:30 am was the pedestrian sober? Did he walk out in front of the agents? Not always the driver's fault in car/ped collisions.

 

YourallDumb

Nov 11, 2009

I like how all anyone has to dispute is My Character name, pick apart my grammar thats fine, as Einstein was I am Dyslexic. I stuggle with words ya but I still have an IQ of 164 and have an Un-beatable point to make, besides picking apart someones grammer cause they cant beat the CONTENT! enough said. Try explaining your point on how it is Obamas fault while your defending these views. Instead of setting your limits on the delivery.... oh and LOL isnt how you spell Laugh out loud either!...see how it looks? pathetic!

 

The Centurian

Nov 11, 2009

To Lance: Why are they all in such a hurry? Maybe because they knew when they started that this would be a one-term president. Obama hates Americans, because he is not one, but Joe doesn't. I don't like Joe's politics but he is an American. Ever notice Obama dumps on Joe every chance he gets?

 

Lawsuit

Nov 11, 2009

If I drive an ambulance w/ lights and sirens and kill someone while responding to an emergency, it is MY fault! With ample warning to pedestrians and other vehicles, it is MY fault - thanks to lawyers. No doubt these drivers should be investigated, at the very least, and prosecuted if the evidence warrants it.

 

August

Nov 11, 2009

2:30 AM and the drivers were not tested for alcohol or drugs? Total Cover Up!

 

Pigasus

Nov 11, 2009

So, Vice President Biden is at his home, President Obama is at his, and you want them to be investigated and charged because someone miles away driving a vehicle, struck and killed a pedestrian. You all insult this poor persons griefing family by turning this tragic death into some irrational rant about how much you hate our President. Conservative Christian values at their finest. It's called an accident, and this was a horrible accident. Like the horrible accident that resulted in the death of a police officer in Pres Bushes motorcade a few years ago. But with your heads in the sand all the time you folks miss those kinds of things. With your willful ignorance and blind party loyalty, the Republicans continue to show us why they should change their mascot from an elephant to an ostrich.

 

steelman

Nov 11, 2009

No doubt about it........Bush's fault.

 

The Centurian

Nov 11, 2009

To those who question the condition of the pedestrian: Can we also get a log of the schedule of the SS agents...why were they traveling at a high rate of speed at 2:30 AM, without the VP on board? Oh yea, they probably were in a hurry to get the vehicles to the airport to be flown to the next city of appearance of a taxpayer-protected federal government official...yea, that's the ticket!!!! Lou, can you hear me on your "Wolf Ear" earpiece?

 

Joe

Nov 11, 2009

Say it aint so Joe!! If this were Cheney, can you imagine the outrage in the MSM?!!!

 

PeeJ

Nov 11, 2009

Hmmm. Biden usually has a foot in his mouth. This time a body? And I thought bodies were only in Hillaries past.......

 

TexasGene

Nov 11, 2009

Lock and Load, before Obamie tries to take guns away,,,http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28

Him and all his muslim brother

 

JayP

Nov 11, 2009

Oh Pigasus, you folks on the Left blamed Hurricanes, global warming, lack of sun spots and about everything bad that happened in the world for the past 2000 years on Bush. And your guys can't take the blame for killing one of the 'little people'?

 

CenturianIsAFag

Nov 11, 2009

to, The Centurian
Is that why you voted for Mcclaim? Did you even know that John Mccain was not born in the USA?... He was born in PANAMA! Obama was born in Hawaii thats American! and do you think under the BUSH admin when Obama signed up to run; he would have been allowed to run if they had a fake Birth certificate as you and your moron party prupose now....after the fact!... they couldnt deny him cause it is a real B.C. and trust me they tried all to stop him!

 

Bank_Executive

Nov 11, 2009

thank you for all staying so polarized and pitting yourselves against each other while My Bank and my colleages rip you off blind and take your tax money on top of your houses! oh and your lives will be next.thats why we Bankers are making you fight, be poor and dumb, so we can take our plans to the next step. I tell you now openly because it is too late to stop us, we OWN D.C. Bye America!!!

 

Dazed&Confuzed

Nov 11, 2009

So, let's get this straight... some poor guy gets pummeled by TWO big arse limos at 2:30 am; coming from Andrews Air Force base (should be all kinds of records if so)... Terrible, true.

This is not just a symbol of what's wrong with the current administration, but with the entirety if the American government. Whose fault is that? Our own! Wake F#@k up America! Why do we continue to allow the aristocracy of both parties the privilege to exist?

Dems and GOPers have had us right where they want us for years, evenly divided enough to keep their sorry arses in power, perpetually. It's time to take it back, people. And I am doubtful voting is the way.

 

Pigasus

Nov 11, 2009

If the Dems or Libertarians wantto keep winning elections, all they need to do is just copy and paste the comments sections on every other article about Obama or Biden and show the voters just want kind of values a republican vote represents. Now I know why the independent party is being hijacked by so many former Repubs. Years from now they will look back on this period and say, This was when the meaning of GOP changed from "Grand Old Party" to "Gone Out to Pasture".

 

Jimmah

Nov 11, 2009

Oh, Biden wasn't in the car? Yeah, right. His SS team just roams the streets of DC at night while he sleeps.

No doubt he was racing back home after a late night trist.

 

The Centurian

Nov 11, 2009

My heart goes out to the family of the pedestrian, regardless of the circumstances. Just hope it wasn't Larry Sinclair....To those in Washington DC monitoring this site, to quote Mick Jaggar "Can you here me knockin"?

 

SomeAccountabilityPlease

Nov 11, 2009

Hopefully investigators will remove the computer module and determine the vehicle's speed at the time of the accident. If they don't, the victim's attorney should have it examined. There's definitely lots of showy, excessive speeding going on. Gee, I wonder why no one got a ticket--had Joe Citizen been driving surely there would have been lots more investigating.

 

VPphobe

Nov 12, 2009

Vice Presidents are dangerous!!

I'm glad I never golfed with Gerald Ford, went out shooting with Dick Cheney, or crossed paths with Joe Biden (or rode with Ted Kennedy for that matter)!

 

AmericanPatriot

Nov 12, 2009

'YourallDumb'
It appears to me that you make yourself grander than the rest of us by either belittling us, or displaying yourself as a much superior human being.
This Country has been experiencing a grandiose takeover of our Freedom and civil rights by a liberal government since 2006. I will fight for our freedom, peacefully, as I speak up to prevent the future generational theft that is running rampant in the United States of America. I prefer Liberty to Tyranny!

 

medum2

Nov 12, 2009

It Obama's and Biden's fault because if they were green, the SS(secret service) would be driving "SLOW" hybrids, like armor plated Prius's(PriI). Hell, now that they bought GM, might as well replace the SS's SUVs with some armor plated VOLTS and save the world, and those j-walking pedestrians too!

Its Obama's and Biden's fault that they haven't done an infomercial teaching our precious children to "look both ways" before crossing this street. To think, we could have saved this guy's life if we spent a few billions on teaching everybody how to cross the street correctly.

BTW, the autopsy includes drug/alcohol testing of the "VICTIM". What about the same for the drivers? And, no mention who had the "green light"? Who hired these clowns as drivers?




 

crazyrednect

Nov 12, 2009

Yea, it had to be Bush's fault. Too bad he's not in charge. He had character and a soul.

 

The Centurian

Nov 12, 2009

To: CenturianIsAFag

Youngster, I feel and understand your passion, as I was there once. John McCain's U.S. citizenship was vetted in the court of the mainstream liberal press. He did not attempt to hide any of his history. He was born on a military base in Panama to a WWII vet and is a war hero himself. I'll not embarass you with the details of why you can get on here and state what you do. Obama will not be able to register as a candidate in most all states for the 2012 election because he is not a US citizen. Live with it.

 

AB

Nov 12, 2009

Tale of Two Cities is by Dickens.

 

Gary.L

Nov 12, 2009

Kathleen,

From the looks of it, the VP drew the short stick, considering these cretins cannot even avoid a PEDESTRIAN at 2:30AM!!!? Try Big Wheels next.

Condolences to the deceased's family !!!

 

YourallDumb'sgrandma

Nov 12, 2009

Get off the computer right now you snot-nosed punk!! Put your pajamas on, brush your teeth and go to bed or I will tell the messiah that you have been a very-very bad boy!

 

kathy

Nov 12, 2009

biden who? ha ha ha

 

Punisher

Nov 12, 2009

All states have laws requiring a test for intoxicants after an accident in which someone is seriously injured. This has nothing to do with politics. It is a tragic ACCIDENT. Let's not forget these guys serve THE COUNTRY, not the individual. Stop blaming the drivers, the pedestrian, and the administrations (this on and the previous). This was just a sad and tragic accident. Pray for the victim's family, and the drivers. They could all use it. Remember: These young men will wake up every day for the rest of their lives remembering this tragic event, and their role in it. Let it go. ALL of you.

 

The Centurian

Nov 12, 2009

To medum2: Great comment!
To crazyrednect: Excellent observation! With all of his flaws W may just be the last REAL American President!

 

Just the facts...

Nov 12, 2009

Wow, so many posts...yet not one of you...NOT ONE OF YOU knows the facts surrounding this situation. God bless the deceased and his family. But would any of you be willing to apologize if this was a case of "pedestrian error?" Move to Canada if you hate your Government so much!

 

Allah for All!

Nov 12, 2009

Punisher - you are full of hsit. The SS are a bunch of thugs protectingan organized crime boss. String them all up by the nads. That'll teach them.

 

YouGotPwned

Nov 12, 2009

Centurian, president bush killed over 3000 new yorkers, 100k Iraqis 8k soldiers and counting. He personaly was involved in bringing down those towers to start this ficticious war on "terror" so he can gain Oil profit and avenge his fathers legacy. and so Larry Silverman could collect the 7 billion dollars on his brand new terrorism ins. policy. that is as american as you I assume. but he was never my president. nor was he a human.
and John Mcclaim is on french news video ratting out his entire squad to the vietcons, so eat sh*t and die!!!

 

libsrcowards

Nov 12, 2009

I feel sorry for the family of the man who died. I hope they raise hell, and file a lawsuit. The SS driver responsible should be tried for manslaughter.

 

Gary.L

Nov 12, 2009

Joe,

Stick to public transportation, take a cab when in town, and whatever you do, don't allow your "defenders" use any weapons other than spit balls; save the slingshots for serious situations

 

Jack J Roth

Nov 12, 2009

Now matter how low a position this man held in this life, I'm sure he will be missed more than Biden.

 

YouGotPwned

Nov 12, 2009

the truth hurts so I bet you wont go to youtube and search "v=lyi8X4SgQV0" to watch the actual video of Mccain rating out his squad, father and military missions to a french reporter infront of vietcon in Vietnam. you dont have the Ballz Centurian you will still be in denial like your whole life.

 

IraqVet

Nov 12, 2009

Now had O'Biden insisted that they practice what he and his dungeon master have been preaching...They could have been driving electric smart cars doing about 25 mph...and the guy might still be alive.

 

Punisher

Nov 12, 2009

Allah for All: Based on your screen name it is clear you do not respect any life at all, which on it's face disqualifies you from rational discourse.
YouGotPwned: Seek help immediately for your mental illness.
Just the facts...: Thank you for being a voice of reason in this matter. It is the only comment on this story that I agree with.

 

mark c

Nov 12, 2009

this is all george bush's fault

 

Kitty Foyle

Nov 12, 2009

Hey, President Obama haters, be informed he had nothing to do with the accident so why are you villifying him so. And at 2:30 a.m. maybe the pedestrian wasn't seen by the drivers and might have suddenly stepped in the path of the oncoming vehicles. Wait for the results of the investigation before crucifying the SS and the President, no less. Oh, it briefly escaped me, you hate Democrats.

 

Vlad

Nov 12, 2009

good luck trying to sue the government... oh wait, kind of like how you won't be able to sue them if they pass government healthcare

LIBERAL MORONS

 

jaywalker

Nov 12, 2009

He was not walking fast enough and will be sued for damage to the bumper and for a car wash. The secret service agent will be medically retired for ptsd and receive 100k a year tax free. Besides this man had no business walking and was probably a criminal on his way to work....or a bible toting redneck who had guns at home. Just put him in a trash bag and take him to the dump so taxpayers will not be burdened.

 

The Centurian

Nov 12, 2009

To: YouGotPwned
I don't even kmow you so I would never tell you to eat Sh.t and die. You obviously have a liberal momma, as does (or did) our current President. Your use of profanity in a response reflects your level of temperment and lack of intelligence on your part, but I won't hold that against you. The blame lies with your liberal mama, of the age who I grew up with, so I understand. Peace brother!

 

Classicist

Nov 12, 2009

Cut them some slack. Those secret service cars are dealing with a lot of leftover stuff from the Bush administration.

 

Airborne869

Nov 12, 2009

All those SS men should have been tested for DRUGS

 

MPM

Nov 12, 2009

Don't jump to conclusions people! Obama will figure this out over beer

 

ingrid

Nov 12, 2009

well i think that the U.S. Secret Service armored vehicles were goin two dats...because how could TWO cars hit ONE man....yeah wat was their hurry???

 

waicool@aol.com

Nov 12, 2009

the nation prays for the victim, his family and friends as Obama's leadership reputation goes into complete breakdown mode. SS just launched a sh#t storm with this one. Next will be our enlightening lesson in journalism as we witness the state run media apologists explain this one away. Start taking notes folks, this should be a douzie! Sweet dreams Barry

 

Dee

Nov 12, 2009

Wonder if we will hear that Joe Was doing the actual driving??? He's been outta sight for so long, he's probably forgotten how to drive.

 

Calvin Hobbes

Nov 12, 2009

I could actually see this if it was Biden driving, but I would expect Secret Service to be a lot more competant.

 

Jeff Schrembs

Nov 12, 2009

Our prayers go out to the victim and their family/loved ones.
Reckless. Preventable.
This should be a TEACHABLE MOMENT for Biden, Obama, all Politicians, and the Secret Service (along with people walking/crossing streets/etc.).
Very sad indeed.

 

Steve

Nov 12, 2009

At least Cheney's victim survived. I can hear the Jokes now. Oh no I can't. Oh yeah it wasn't connected to Pres. Bush.

 

Harold

Nov 12, 2009

You conservatives do realize how hateful you are coming across in your comments, yes?

A man died here. It was an accident. Obama has nothing to do with it. Biden was not in the car. It is not Bush's fault, it is not Obama's fault, it is not Biden's fault. End of story.

 

ROLF MAO

Nov 12, 2009

Driver was probably one of those illegal aliens. Tons of them working fo r the government.

 

tminu

Nov 12, 2009

I've seen them with their Gatling guns hanging out the back window of the black SUV. Intimidation is just their style.

 

Elmo/Anechoic Room

Nov 12, 2009

A flood of crocodile tears from Chucklehead (and or Joey) in 3, 2, 1 ...

Having to protect these coalesced scums of pond, must really play havoc with the minds of da seakrit soyvice. But, no excuse (yeah, sure, could have actually been an accident).

But like the Pwezzy motorcade just a lil while back, where the biz end of automatic weapons, were pointed at persons along the motorcade route.

Some accidents are indeed preventable.

 

Blaze1

Nov 12, 2009

Harold - It's not Republicans who keep blaming Bush for everything, it's your President and VP! You and Jack and everyone else who hates America so much, go to freaking Canada and stop wasting my air!
The fact we pay for SS protection for Biden is a bigger joke than Obama's citizenship!
My sympathies for Obama/Biden's latest victim. Guess those of us not fortunate enough to be part of the rich, liberal, elite will just have to look out! Perhaps if the pedestrian had attended prep school, hung out with terrorists, or just generally hated this country Biden would have swerved. On the plus side for Biden, he now matches up to Ted Kennedy in at least one category!

 

Dosage

Nov 12, 2009

The elites of any party and their servants cannot be concerned with the unfortunate death of a commoner.

They'll simply apologize, pay some amount in the lawsuit and go on with the important affairs of rulership.

 

Nov 12, 2009

Bush's fault.

 

fwupow

Nov 12, 2009

Of course Biden didn't do it. He's waiting for the Vice Presidential Duck...er..I mean, turkey shoot.

 

Yooyanks

Nov 12, 2009

I thought I heard the guy was carrying documents that proved Obama was from Kenya.. must be just a coincidence...

 

b4bru

Nov 12, 2009

Now, c'mon, lets not jump to conclusions on this!!
It had to be Bush's fault that the illegal was driving, because Cheney was
hunting in the area and he was trying to avoid the errant bullet coming their way!!!

 

Apparently...

Nov 12, 2009

the REAL problem with this country is that it's full of Republicans and Democrats and very few actual people. That this tragic event is nothing more than a lightning rod of partisan vitriol is very, very sad. Unfortunately you find this pathetic back-and-forth on every news story linked to by Drudge, HuffPost, etc... regardless of what the story is actually reporting. Please God, let there be a viable third party soon.

 

aw

Nov 12, 2009

howws= that hope and change turning out for you idiots?/????????

 

IHateULibs

Nov 12, 2009

Better to be a member of Dick Cheney's hunting party than in Joe Biden's motorcade.

 

Don Nelson

Nov 12, 2009

Joe's motorcade has killed more people then my gun has.

 

Dashark

Nov 12, 2009

From the Military Forum:
"ALERT!! ALERT!! AMERICAN NUKES IN THE HANDS OF MUSLIMS!!
Muslims are in charge of America's nukes. The Kenyan Usurper, Obama, has ordered that 30% of the American soldiers guarding and manning nukes be Muslim.
Our worst nightmare has come true!
Muslims will destroy America in a matter of time with our own nukes."

 

thinkerray

Nov 12, 2009

Vice President fails to oversee his motorcade and is complicit in murder! News Flash: this is how this Administration is changing things; now you are not safe walking outside! Sue the entire lot.

 

Teamstar

Nov 12, 2009

I see the right wingnuts are out in force. Now that IS President Obama's fault. Looks good on ya.

 

Burma Pilot

Nov 12, 2009

Obama kills. Pure and simple.

 

jr

Nov 12, 2009

Another political junket for Obama and followers. When does the campaigning stop???????

 

Savvy

Nov 12, 2009

Honestly I think it would depend on the pedestrian's state of mind at the time. I've been a delivery driver for several years and I almost always work nights. It is hard for me to count the number of times I have almost hit drunk idiots running through darkened streets. Situations like that are not the drivers and fault and they will not likely be prosecuted. If the guy was just walking along minding his own business though, and their reckless driving did kill him...then yes, shame on them. I will not be so quick to judge until I know what happened.

 

Bob Blank

Nov 12, 2009

Multiply this accident by 50,000 and we have a taste of what life is like for the civilians our troops are supposed to be protecting in Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

retired

Nov 12, 2009

idiots voted these dirtbags in.. now watch the nightmare unfold..

 

Big_Swede59

Nov 12, 2009

So, if the VPOS was not in the motorcade, what was the emergency? These dudes were as careless with the lives of American citizens as their bosses are.

 

whateva

Nov 12, 2009

fiscal incompetents are motor vehicle incompetents also. surprise, surprise.

 

Good news

Nov 12, 2009

In twenty four hours there will be solid evidence that the man killed was a right wing terrorist about to blow up the entire country. The vice president will receive an accommodation for his swift action which he will turn over to the president (so he can wear it everywhere) because it was his policies that made it all possible.

 

FL-LP

Nov 12, 2009

Harold: That's News!! Something bad happenned today... And it was NOT George W. Bush's fault!!

Thanks so much for clarifying!

Everyone else: Missed the satire, again!

 

simple and sure

Nov 12, 2009

No such thing as an accident my friends; {an act of God or a fault of man}. In this case a little bit of the two, more so the latter. One you can control the other you can't. Kinda like our political system Republicans and Democrats one you can control the other you can't. Just in the order it is written. (you can u-tube that statement from Denver CO. news clip 1986)

 

8rent

Nov 12, 2009

I just scanned the entire comment field, and didn't see anything even resembling blaming Obama for this.

Way to troll, guys! Next time, get a clue as to exactly what you're trying to subvert.

PS--anyone allegedly renouncing their Republican allegiance in a comment forum is likely a smoke and mirrors troll. Don't believe everything you read!

 

FL_Libertarian

Nov 12, 2009

To Youralldumb,

Let's not talk smarts here when your name should be you'realldumb; meaning you are all dumb. IDIOT. I'm a Libertarian, so not defending brainwashed idiots like you or on the right. But, let's not pretend like you were ever a Republican, which I once called myself. You can feel the hate for the right in your voice. My guess is that you're (not your) a hard-left moron that makes very little money, pays no taxes, has no clue about economics, and believes that the US has an endless supply of money to borrow from abraod to fund every entitlement program you and your (not you're) tree-hugging friends can dream up! How am my doing here? Bet I'm pretty close. Now, get your sorry *ss down to starbucks, you're (not your) late for your (not you're) shift!!! MORON!

 

Amazed or Confused

Nov 12, 2009

Wow - It would seem to me that one vehicle hitting the person would translate to manslaughter - that a second vehicle also hit the pedestrian seems to imply effort/skill/premeditation/deliberation or something more than just "regular" negligence - so one or both drivers should be charged with murder, not manslaughter, or maybe one with murder and the other with assault, or something along those lines.

 

Who Knows

Nov 12, 2009

Lulu Skates Wrote:
"Why protect Biden? Does anyone really care? "
Most Americans on the street don't even know who he is. Show them photos: they don't know--
ask them "who is the VP?" and they don't know.

 

SuitlandPkwy

Nov 12, 2009

Amazing about how many computers find themselves in the rec rooms of mental hospitals, don't you think? That's the only conclusion I can come up with based on the left-wing, moronic commentary.

 

Phlebo

Nov 12, 2009

I hear the word party used here quite a bit. I always thought a party was supposed to be a celebration.
Ladies and Gentleman let us concern ourselves with what our plight will be and not with taking sides with either master that decides it.

 

Racial victim

Nov 12, 2009

These people think they are entitled and above the rest of us. I contacted Senator Bidens office when my son was denied an equal education in DE public schools because he reported daily threats against him and Biden's office told us he could not help us.

 

Usurper obama

Nov 12, 2009

Biden should be arrested for the murder of the man

www.obamacrimes.com

 

J R

Nov 12, 2009

@ Griffin:

Zounds! I am cut to the quick by your rapier wit! I have seen the error of my ways and will pledge myself to the caring, compassionate, and tolerant Democrats

 

OptiMystic

Nov 12, 2009

Pay attention to the way media uses language. If it was Dick Cheney's motorcade it would have been an SUV that struck the pedestrian. How come, when it's Joe Biden's entourage, it is a sport utility vehicle...not an SUV.

 

Liberalism is a Mental Disorder

Nov 12, 2009

'nuff said.

 

jess

Nov 12, 2009

manslaughter? Did someone read a different article than I did? It said a pedestrian was hit at 2am by a secret service car. That's it. How are we jumping to manslaughter charges?????? For all you know the guy was piss drunk and stumbled into the road. I'm not assuming that. But if I'm going to assume manslaughter charges would be filed, I may as well assume the pedestrian was drunk too.

At 2am, this was likely an unfortunate accident. In case anyone has noticed, it's not exactly normal for a pedestrian to be IN THE ROAD...particularly at 2am when it is difficult to see. There are so many ways this thing could go, but it's not even speculation at this point...to assume anything is plain and simple stupidity. There are ZERO facts in this case other than a pedestrian being hit by a car. The comments on here just shock me.

 

Amazed or Confused

Nov 12, 2009

Actually, jess, you've said there are zero facts in the case except for a pedestrian being hit by a car - but the story is that the pedestrian was hit by TWO secret service vehicles.

 

Mag

Nov 12, 2009

What were the TWO SS cars doing out at tha time if they did not have the VP on board -- or did they? Who was on board?

 

Voice of Reason

Nov 12, 2009

Allow me to play devil's advocate here. And this is coming from a "right wing nut." SS drive fast for a reason. It helps prevent interception by someone attempting to harm their charges (i.e. VP/Prez.) And part of their methods involve deception, meaning that sometimes they have more than one vehicle in order to confuse potential attackers. This means that they have to always drive the same way regardless of whether they are actually carrying a vip. Does this completely absolve the DRIVER (not the vehicle) of all wrongdoing? No. But to blame Biden or anyone else in this evil administration for this tragedy is pretty short-sighted. The left wingnuts do enough to damage their credibility without us in the right having to make stuff up.

 

donteatyellowsnow

Nov 12, 2009

That's it!Murderous SUV'S are killing way to many people all of President Oblahblah administration should be issued only small eco-friendly cars and bicycles.

 

Semper Gumby

Nov 12, 2009

Shouldn't be too hard to figure out. All the park police need to do is download the runtime data from the presidential vehicle's engine computer. It will be obvious if the Secret Service was speeding or not.

 

Amazed or Confused

Nov 12, 2009

I don't see my response to jess on the page so I'll resubmit - it is not true that there are zero facts in the case other than a pedestrian being hit by A car - the article says that according to authorities, the pedestrian was hit by TWO secret service vehicles.

 

Bulldog

Nov 12, 2009

I will wait to see what happened to pass judgement but this is just one more embarrassment for Biden.

 

CNJ Derrick

Nov 12, 2009

I love how people comment on a story without reading it. Biden WAS NOT in the vehicle at the time! Remember when a motorcycle cop died in Texas while he was escorting W? What did you republicans "comment" on when that happened.

Cheney shot his "friend" with a shot gun and Biden had was not even in the car at the time so had nothing to do with it.

 

Haus

Nov 12, 2009

"...were used to whisk Bided..."
Clearly the problem is this "whisking" deal. Absolutely none of us - either side of the aisle - is in any hurry to see Biden's next appearance. No more whisking!

 

george

Nov 12, 2009

A man is dead. That is very sad. These men being convicted by the readers of murder when they may have been faultless and then blaming Obama and Biden is insane. Wait for the facts. I am no Obama or Biden lover. They are ruining this country. That is worthy of blame but what you people are doing in this comment section shows bias every bit as much as the Media against conservatives.

 

lngshirt

Nov 12, 2009

W pushed the man in front of the car. He also was seen running from the fort hood shootings.He is known to have personally fired or layed off everybody that unemployed. I suspect he is in Afganastan leading the taliban against our troops and helping build the nukes in Iran.He has a CO2 generator at the ranch speeding global warming. And a pool of baby seals he cubs every day.What will this mad man do next.

 

YesWeCan

Nov 12, 2009

These are the same drivers that were trained under the Bush administration. Obama has cut spending and secret service drivers ed. was one of the programs that was eliminated to save our country. Who walks around at 2:30am anyway? He should have been at home or a shelter or somewhere other than walking in the streets.

 

Skippy

Nov 12, 2009

Pedestrians need to be aware of their surroundings.

 

Skippy

Nov 12, 2009

Pedestrians need to be aware of their surroundings.

 

chuck boo

Nov 12, 2009

ha...this crisis was inherited too.

 

JoJo

Nov 12, 2009

Will Barack have the driver over for a beer?

 

martin D.

Nov 12, 2009

Biden will come out and say something like he cannot comment as all the facts are not in. These pinheads will set up a 12 member panel, that will spend six months and two million dollars, to investigate a car running over a pedestrian and come to the conclusion that a vehicle ran over a pedestrian.

 

mark edward marchiafava

Nov 12, 2009

Time to abolish this "ruling class" mentality. Let 'em travel like the rest of us.

 

Voice of Reason

Nov 12, 2009

Skippy! How dare you assert that people need to take responsibility for their actions! The new government takes care of us so we don't have to be responsible. We no longer have to pay our bills. We no longer have to work to support our families or provide for their health. Why should we have to look both ways when we cross the street! Yes we... squish.

 

CNJ Derrick

Nov 12, 2009

I stand corrected, the officer that was escorting Bush died in NM, the Dallas officer died while escorting Hillary Clinton.

 

John galt

Nov 12, 2009

now Joe can say he is just like his idol, ted kennedy..except for the running away part

 

wally

Nov 12, 2009

Chris G., you are exactly correct...they drive very often with supreme arrogance and speeding..

 

bropous

Nov 12, 2009

If they had already dropped off Biden, then there was no reason for them not to be driving the posted speed limits on their return to the garage.

However, I would implore you other readers to not abbreviate "Secret Service" with SS. That connotes something entirely different altogether.

 

Michael - Boston

Nov 12, 2009

The administration helped him find a way to reduce both his energy use and carbon foot print by 100%

 

Intel Agents

Nov 12, 2009

Once again, the folks who come out to add a punch-line to someone's death show their true colors. Nice.

 

Michael Boston

Nov 12, 2009

The administration helped this man cut his energy use and carbon foot print by 100 percent.

 

PappyHappy

Nov 12, 2009

Since this is the 'MOST TRANSPARENT' administration in history, will the population hear the causses of the loss of this life?

 

BeenThereBeenTempted

Nov 12, 2009

Used to be part of a terrorism response team. Worked with other emergency responders - law enforcement, fire, EMS, military, Secret Service, etc. All were understaffed and overworked. Ran vehicles with lights and sirens just like the others and always had to work to maintain my own discipline and that of the others on the team to not abuse the position and vehicle situation to get to places quicker and easier. All the agencies dealt with this because of the before mentioned understaffing and overworked environment and the temptation to take those shortcuts to make it to meetings on time or just plain get things done quicker. Human nature under pressure, nothing malicious.

 

wow

Nov 12, 2009

hardly a comment for the person who passed away or his family- sign of the times...

My thoughts are with the family.

 

Bill

Nov 12, 2009

2:30 in the early morning? Yeah right, Biden was already home in bed?! This sounds like some kind of coverup so Biden is not caught being out late at night for what? Having a late meeting with his secretary.? A GOOD REPORTER WOULD DIG DEEPER INTO THIS STORY. There is a smell to this story that doesn't seem right.

 

Richard - Kansas City

Nov 12, 2009

Number of people killed by all my "Assault Weapons" (combined total): 0

Number of people killed by Joe Biden's (author of "Assault Weapon" Ban) car: 1

 

Comrade Mao

Nov 12, 2009

BREAKING NEWS: Biden WAS THE DRIVER. Apparently after years of being driven around and riding the train, it turns out Biden has never actually driven a vehicle. The SS reports that Biden demands to drive after midnight when there are less jaywalkers. He was reportedly heard saying "serfs out that late deserve to be hit" as he gleefully drove off looking for another of the little people.......

 

The Most Obvious Thing...

Nov 12, 2009

You know, if they had been driving AlGore-Approved, Earth-Friendly sardine cans (you know the ones that Rev. Gore constantly preaches that everyone else should be driving?) the man probably would have survived the accident. AlGore = Elitist, Leftist, Earth-Worshipping Hypocrite...oh, and Nobel Peace Prize winner. May the victim rest in Peace.

 

Mexlibertarian

Nov 12, 2009

I'm sure this is a result of global warming. Oops. I mispoke. Climate change

 

kimcheetard

Nov 12, 2009

RACIST!!!

 

Tam

Nov 12, 2009

Blame the driver, not the VP nor the President!

 

Make em Pay

Nov 12, 2009

The King's guards are above the law.

 

zuzu68

Nov 12, 2009

I'd feel safer if Cheney were president today.

 

zuzu68

Nov 12, 2009

And...I'm a democrat...well, I used to be...now I'm a "Constitutionalist"

 

zuzu68

Nov 12, 2009

And I'm a democrat, well I used to be...now I'm a "Constitutionalist"

 

john

Nov 12, 2009

TO:youralldumb Dear idiot you are the DUMB ONE--you don't know the difference between:your,you're,and you are!!!

 

Red Ruffansore

Nov 12, 2009

Biden lied, pedestrians died. Washington DC is not our problem, when are we going to pull out and let them solve their own problems. No blood for Oily politicians. More bong water Obots?

 

Nuts

Nov 12, 2009

Blame it on Bush...if he wasn't such a knuckle head,the voters may have not picked Obama

 

Arcturus6

Nov 12, 2009

Plainly, the driver is the one responsible, GB, BHO, JB, notwithstanding. And it is the driver who should be held accountable, that is to say, if he was at fault. Now then, as for the other comments, they represent frustration and rightly so; if the liberals do not like it, tough. I do not remember them taking up the cuase for GWB and DC a while back! Such hypocrisy, but then, "liberals" live on hypocrisy!

 

Freedom Over Security

Nov 12, 2009

Jack Ziegler: Unfortunately there was no right wing candidate on the ballot last year, only "moderate" (AKA liberal) republican John McCain. As for you trying to say that all republicans are racists, I am not buying the lies, but unfortunately many people are susceptible to the divisive tactics you employ. By the way unemployment in Texas is a full 2% lower than the national average and 4% lower than the left coast. Pelosicare will drive insurance costs through the roof and the only opting out short of secession will be to opt out of the benefits, but not opt out of paying them. Now that all of the political stuff is out of the way, let us hope that the pedestrian is in a better place and wish the best for his family.

 

Freedom Over Security

Nov 12, 2009

Jack Ziegler: Unfortunately there was no right wing candidate on the ballot last year, only "moderate" (AKA liberal) republican John McCain. As for you trying to say that all republicans are racists, I am not buying the lies, but unfortunately many people are susceptible to the divisive tactics you employ. By the way unemployment in Texas is a full 2% lower than the national average and 4% lower than the left coast. Pelosicare will drive insurance costs through the roof and the only opting out short of secession will be to opt out of the benefits, but not opt out of paying them. Now that all of the political stuff is out of the way, let us hope that the pedestrian is in a better place and wish the best for his family.

 

iwantmymoneyback

Nov 12, 2009

They will merely re-assign the SS agent, give some cursary warnings to the other hotshot throttle jockeys and that will be the end of it.

Unless, of course, the pedestrian is a Muslim with terrorist ties. In that case, they will throw the SS agent under the bus for having an "agenda".

 

Lee

Nov 12, 2009

Cheney's shooting accident was the equivalent of someone getting hit while standing by the targets painted in white and black rings.

The "victim" was in the woods on the wrong side of the shooting arena and didn't follow the proper procedure for indicating his presence.

But what does the media know about hunting when they bow down to Al Gore, UN, and PETA.

 

Embittered Yank

Nov 12, 2009



Obviously the pedestrian attacked the SUVs--Fedzilla is never wrong.

Bicycles for Beltway Joe and his cartoon Secret Service Sillies.

 

Rick

Nov 12, 2009

Who's Joe Biden?

 

Rick

Nov 12, 2009

Richard from Kansas City
Let's not forgot my favorite
Ted Kennedy - he's 1 for 1 too.
I understand he hasn't had a drink in a week! Way to go!

 

Ya'lldumb

Nov 12, 2009

Oh Yea! I am a 92 degree golden blue mist
belt and I eat rocks and I built all the cites west of the Mississippi.
I have Mariah Carry in my Bed right now,
I have 22 MBA.s 12 PhD's and I own the fifth largest army in the world.
I scrape 190 lb.'s of road kill a day and feed 42 orphans with it daily!
And I could whip you with one eye lash!

 

Double Standard

Nov 12, 2009

This has nothing to do with which party is in office. I'm sure each of you has broken the law and or had a near mishap while driving. Just by the way you run your mouth, I can tell. Unfortunately, a man lost his life and that should not be taken lightly. But to error is human. Hopefully when the person's identity is release, each of you will step up and support the family since you seemed “So” concerned. However, I bet you WON’T!

 

jess

Nov 12, 2009

I did reread the article and notice it was 2 vehicles that hit him. Although upon first reading the article, I assumed one car hit the pedestrian and another secret service car was behind him. I didn't realize it literally meant two vehicles struck him. But again, there are very few facts here. The most likely scenario is the first car hit him and the second rolled over him because he was following. I just don't understand all this sinister motive on here. I like a good conspiracy story as much as the next guy..and I also hate everyone in the obama admin. However, I still don't see how people are jumping to conclusions. Had the article possibly mentioned that one witness had spotted the car speeding, that would be cause for at least some speculation. But there is nothing of the sort.

 

jess

Nov 12, 2009

"Plainly, the driver is the one responsible, GB, BHO, JB, notwithstanding. And it is the driver who should be held accountable, that is to say, if he was at fault."

In one breath you say the driver is responsible and then say IF he was at fault. Makes no sense. The bottom line is there are very few facts on what happened. If the secret guy was speeding and blew a light....ok, murder. If the pedestrian was drunk and started walking through the intersection out of turn, not murder. It will be very easy to figure this out once there is an investigation. Until then, how can any of you start picking sides??

Although I am fairly interested why this is not bigger news. Just seems like it has all the elements of media sensation. Secret service, vice president (in the car or not), death, blood, conspiracy...etc.

 

W.C. Varones

Nov 12, 2009

A Tale of Two Cities!

http://wcvarones.blogspot.com/2009/11/life-imitates-art.html

 

jess

Nov 12, 2009

"If they had already dropped off Biden, then there was no reason for them not to be driving the posted speed limits on their return to the garage"

Which we have absolutely no idea whether he was doing 20 or 200.

 

jess

Nov 12, 2009

"there is not one republican in the whole USA with an IQ over 70, and these comments and their ideals/issues prove this."

Please. I'm republican and shocked at the accusations on this page. The people throwing around accusations because they like or dislike obama are the only ones with IQ's under 70.

But I love how someone who wants to work for what they have is considered to have a low IQ. I guess your right. All us republicans are morons for wanting to work when we could just have things given to us by our government. I understand completely now.

 

Intops

Nov 12, 2009

I have done similar drives , when the VIP is not in the vehicle, you follow normal rules of the road.

 

robertsgt40

Nov 12, 2009

Oh well, I'm sure they didn't mean it. I'm sure the driver will be held accountable...as you or I would. Besides, these guys are driving for an administation that is on a mission...liberating the middle east.

 

chatman

Nov 12, 2009

I have to say the SS are not the only law enforcement personnel who do this. I am constantly amazed at the cops I see storming down roads at high rates of speed with no lights flashing (late to dinner I assume). Their disregard for the laws they are sworn to uphold are criminal and points to the sense of entitlement they have and lack of oversight.

 

Grannybunny

Nov 12, 2009

Gee, all these opinions about an accident that hasn't even been investigated yet, much less the cause determined.

 

Please

Nov 12, 2009

Sure all those sirens and lights wailing away and its the agencies fault. The VP's motorcade is like what 20 cars long. The vehicle that his the pedistrian was in the middle of the motorcade? So this guy gets hit by a car in the middle of the motorcade, how does that happen

 

NO_MO_BAMA

Nov 12, 2009

Results 1 - 10 of about 3,430,000 for Democrats are idiots
Results 1 - 10 of about 3,410,000 for Republicans are idiots.

Sorry, the democrats win by 20,000, I looked it up.
That should put an end to that argument.

 

NO_MO_BAMA

Nov 12, 2009

"It will be very easy to figure this out once there is an investigation. Until then, how can any of you start picking sides??

Let's see...there was 2 government people (who work for the most.....insert 'below 70 IQ' Obama comment here)and one non government person who is dead....how much "investigation" do you think there will be? But let's not >>>>JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS!!!

 

Dennis Kolb Sr.

Nov 12, 2009

The most obvious reason the predestrian died is because "Government Health Care" was not in place to save Him!!!

 

Think

Nov 12, 2009

At 2:30AM, get the F out of the road. Who steps in front of moving vehicles at 2:30AM?

On the subject of Secret Service generally being aggressive drivers, I'm not so sure they shouldn't. I'm thinking they should be at least as aggressive as your average cabbie. And they're driving shouldn't change with who's in the car. You shouldn't be able to guess if someone's in there or not. And they shouldn't be stopped and vulnerable every time some dolt stumbles into traffic. That's a very untenable security situation.

 

Think (dammit)

Nov 12, 2009

I hate posting something and then seeing typos.

 

eebeeno

Nov 12, 2009

Wow that is like WY kewl dude.

RT
www.ultimate-privacy.cz.tc

 

BigBadBill

Nov 12, 2009

Bad scene for the pedestrian. Of course, in Texas, they could have just left him stuck in the windshield. Works at least 50 percent of the time...

 

TheDepressingTruth

Nov 12, 2009

The SS probably jumped out of the Suburban and "high fived" each other.

The victim was the lowest of the low in our society...a pedestrian...not even high enough in our social order to be in a car..and some of you think that someone is going to be punished for this?

This coming from an agency that on a regular basis has the Agent sitting in the rear passenger seat of the follow vehicle roll down their window and point a Heckler & Koch MP-5 automatic weapon at crowds? Threat from the crowds?...They're in a vehicle that can survive a Morter Attack for Christ's Sake....Just to show who's Boss.

 

pf3

Nov 13, 2009

I think Obama was the one driving and he should be put in prison for murder in the first degree!

 

Lou

Nov 13, 2009

Let's get Wolf Blitzer spun up on this story, it should be good for increasing his TV ratings.

 

Disgusted

Nov 13, 2009

So much conspiracy theory and hatred here.

Think about it. You hit someone with your car what thoughts go through your mind?

My thoughts are with the Serviceman and the family of the poor fellow who was hit.

Can I emphasize that word SERVICEMAN? Protecting a man who he may or may not have voted for.

Maybe he made a mistake, maybe it was a tragic accident, maybe he did everything right and it just happened.

One thing I love about your country is that you share our belief that you are innocent until proven guilty.

Perhaps he was driving too fast, lets wait to find out, but please keep in my this gentleman is responsible for a life every day and there is no doubt in my mind he value's life to the same degree (if not more) that we all do.

 

CosineMKT

Nov 13, 2009

I fear for the future of this country, not because of the politicians but on how hateful and uncompromising so many of you are. Irregardless of your views we are still one country with a common future. The disappearance of civil discord hurts us all and is what really is risking our society.

 

Someone who knows....

Nov 13, 2009

A: Braking is seriously degraded on armored vehicles

B: If someone at that time of night (lets assume jogger or whatnot, came out from behind another vehicle to cross the street) it would be MUCH more difficult to avoid the accident.

C: Motorcades often are empty but continue to operate as motorcades to throw off people who might be following

D: the reason both cars hit was they were probably driving as a motorcade and driving on eachothers bumper.

E: We dont know the exact circumstances (did the person jump out at the last second, was the motorcade being reckless, etc...etc...) so as of right now it is simply a trajic accident until the investigation is complete

 

Gump

Nov 13, 2009

When did the examiner start allowing comments from youtuve users? This is ridiculous.

 

HBIC

Nov 13, 2009

This is to Jaywalker this is my best frinds father this do not have anything to do with Biden nor Obama. this have to do with a life is goin and a family is really hurting inside. AMERICANS NEED TO SHOW MORE UNDERSTANDING AND CARE AMD HOW GIVES A DAME ABOUT WHAT HE WAS DOING. THE MAN IS NOT HEAR

 

The End

Nov 13, 2009

Did Biden toss a coin out the window to the man's family?!

"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times..."

 

Ajay Desai

Nov 13, 2009

For all you fools, the Secret Service is an organization that stays fairly stable staff wise despite changes in administration. The agents involved did not show up on the job yesterday.

Second, to fault either the Administration or the Secret Service without knowing the facts is a demonstration of your ignorance, your foolishness, and the real problem of the United States.

To provide some enlightening information. These armored SUV's normally weigh 2.5 times their normal weight when they come off the lot due to their extra armor plating. They also have beefier engines breaks and suspensions to make up for the extra weight, however it still does not overcome the effects of mass. The breaking distance on these vehicles is significantly increased.

 

ggordon

Nov 14, 2009

Cheney was riding "shotgun".

Lulu got it right. Why do we protect Biden? Does anybody care?

 

Diogenes

Nov 15, 2009

So, then Biden has an alibi?

 

Reteric

Nov 15, 2009

How can you not see these two vehicles coming. Unless they were speeding beyond belief this guy was an idiot.

 

Client-9

Nov 16, 2009

Almost happened to me. SLOW DOWN!!!! Yes, the rules do apply to you, and arriving 20 seconds earlier isn't worth someone's life. Note how they weren't even carrying an important passenger. They were driving fast, because they could.

 

jess

Nov 17, 2009

Client-9

How fast were those evil ss going?

 

Sick-of-it

Nov 20, 2009

News flashto some of the posters !!! this was not a political indecent ... it was an auto accident.

Neither Biden nor Oboma had anything to do with this ....

Idiots!

Aren't there Right-wing blog sites you can go help pollute?

 

saw this coming

Nov 22, 2009

Knowing how the service works, the drivers were probably working the visit in washington and then had to travel back to DC then return the cars to the garage.. Sounds like the service making people work 18 or 20 hour days maybe longer and get no sleep..

 

private car services

Nov 23, 2009

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Sue

Nov 28, 2009

Did they identify the man yet? Just askin'.

 

Sue

Nov 29, 2009

My comment was not with the correct wording or sentiment. I said something to the effect of, "Has there been a follow up yet? Have they been able to identify the alleged victim yet?" Who would edit that comment and why?

 

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Nov 30, 2009

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