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About that anti-freedom stimulus bill

By: Sen. Jim DeMint and Gov. Mark Sanford, OpEd Contributors
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February 12, 2009

Earlier this week, President Barack Obama took to the primetime airwaves in what amounted to a hard sell on his singularly expansive ‘stimulus’ package.  His problem?  Americans aren’t buying.

In fact, the more the American people learn about this $1.3 trillion boondoggle masquerading as our economy’s last, best hope, the less they like it.  And with good reason. 

First, the underlying principle of the president’s package is flawed.  Referring to the recent upswing in job losses that have led to a reduction in consumer spending, the president stated—and not for the first time—“it is only government that can break [this] vicious cycle.”

The idea that government, and government alone, possessed the ability to solve a problem facing this nation—no matter how immense—would be as foreign as it would be distressing to those responsible for America’s founding.

It is simply contradictory to the ideals of liberty and individual empowerment that have been essential to this nation’s historic rise to greatness.  Wiser men than we have commented that the government solution to a problem is often worse than the problem itself, and in this bill, those men would be again vindicated. 

Second, on Monday night, the president attempted to rally support for his package on moral grounds, arguing that this generation of American leadership must pass the stimulus “for the future of our children and our grandchildren.”

While his moral compass is well-directed—the cost our actions will bear on the lives of those who follow must surely be at the forefront of our minds—his actions are distressingly misguided. 

The Obama stimulus is based on the faulty premise that the money government spends is essentially found money, that it doesn't cost anyone anything, that it's the monetary equivalent of a victimless crime. 

The truth is there is no such thing.  Each and every one of the $800 billion in taxpayer dollars that Mr. Obama wants to inject into the economy has to come from somewhere, and in this case, we are laying the bill at the feet of those very children and grandchildren whose future the President says he’s committed to protecting.

And we share the belief that mortgaging the economic future of successive generations of Americans in order to buy ourselves some short-term job relief is not only bad policy, it’s an abdication of our responsibility.  A moral argument is certainly in play here—Obama just happens to be on the wrong side of it. 

Third, despite the president’s protestations, this package is littered with projects and programs that have nothing to do with simulating the economy. The left-leaning Committee for a Responsible Budget last week identified a number of programs in the stimulus bill that fall into this category.   And we most assuredly have our own list.

Should the stimulus bill really include changes to the mid-90’s reform of our welfare program, a reform that moved millions of Americans from welfare-to-work?  Certainly not when those changes will undermine the work requirements that have been the lynchpin of the program’s success and lead to, according to a recent column in The Wall Street Journal, “The Return of Welfare As We Knew It.”   

And why does a domestic stimulus bill contain more than $180 million in funding for diplomatic and consular operations that are most likely taking place on the other side of the globe?   

The president spent a great deal of time during his remarks creating a false dichotomy, implying that the choice facing Congress was either do nothing at all or accept his colossal plan as is, and accept it now.

But those are surely not the only options available.  The Federal government is poised to implement the largest and most intrusive ‘stimulus’ package in our nation’s history.

Members of Congress should not allow themselves to be browbeaten into submitting to a package the consequences of which will reverberate for decades to come.

Jim DeMint and Mark Sanford are, respectively, the junior senator from South Carolina and governor of the Palmetto state.



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Freedom Fighter

Feb 12, 2009

I'll do all I can to remind people who voted for this obamanation come election time.

 

Sarabeth Rudd

Feb 12, 2009

Thank you, thank you, thank you! Both of you have my whole hearted support and are in my prayers! Keep up the good work!

 

bigfatcat

Feb 12, 2009

Hopefully, you do realize the irony of a Republican talking about the loss of freedom after having spent the last 8 years assisting an administration that had done more take away our civil liberties than any other in the last 100 years. Individual empowerment, by the way, is also a big topic of the conservative talking heads. The SUV driving/country club loving/tax break demanding Republicans are big on telling other people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. It is always easy to say that when you have a job and a good income. I would like you to go and spout some of that in a few of the bars and coffee shops across the US where real people face real job loss and real home loss. Freedom on the Right's terms mean making sure they keep their entitlements and not noticing as the rest of the country goes hungry.

 

nervousaboutcountry

Feb 12, 2009

Great piece. Thanks so much.

 

bucknelldad

Feb 12, 2009

It's worse than the Senator and Governor say. The interest on that $800 billion spending bill is estimated to be about $400 billion, when it's all said and done. Congress is giving money - minus its take - to the same people whose wallets they are taking it from. How stupid is this? Shouldn't we just let people keep it and spend it in the first place? Resurrect the Gohmert plan!

 

ame

Feb 12, 2009

Senator DeMint and Governor Sanford are two men greatly respected for standing up for moral and ethical principles. KEPP SPEAKING OUT, PLEASE! As far as Obama is concerned, Lincoln said it best: He can compress the most words into the smallest ideas better than any man I ever met. One of Obama smallest ideas is his stimulus Democrat pork bill. Vote Dems out in 2010 and 2012. Let them get real jobs with few governemtn perks.

 

Sog

Feb 12, 2009

Bigfatcat, Your jealousy of people who have achieved success in their lives is clearly clouding your assessment. In a free society people must be free to both succeed and to fail. It can never be true freedom if you are only allowed to be successful but the government will try to prevent failure. It cannot work. Lastly, I challenge you to state one way in which your personal civil liberties have been infringed in the last eight years. FDR locked up tens of thousands of American citizens who had committed no crime and were of no threat to the US. He opposed anti-lynching laws in the south and created a program of monitoring correspondence between any Japanese terroritory and an American citizen without a warrant. Without even discussing the domestic programs that the Court throughout as unconstitution and his attempts to stack the Supreme Court it is clear that FDR has done more than any other president to take away civil rights.

 

Feb 12, 2009

Well, Gov. Sanford and Senator Demint, I do not think you should accept any of the money for your state if you do not feel it is neccessary. It is the only honest thing to do. Say thanks, but no thanks.

 

Kevin

Feb 12, 2009

"Members of Congress should not allow themselves to be browbeaten into submitting to a package the consequences of which will reverberate for decades to come." Why not? Your party cowered down and voted for Bush's irresponsible tax cuts for the wealthy which sent the deficit skyrocketing and limited financial resources to fight the war on terror. Republicans are in no place to lecture the rest of us on "fiscal responsibility." They have proven time and again they are totally incapable of handling the country's checkbook.

 

debbieqd

Feb 12, 2009

And you, Senator DeMint and Governor Sanford, should be ETHICAL by not accepting one cent of the $10 billion allotted for your state.

 

TheDiplomat

Feb 12, 2009

I wonder where will you all be if the bill works? I remember the same idiots posting months ago about how this and that was going to happen. And guess what? None of it happened!

 

Bluewater Wisdon

Feb 12, 2009

For the record: Neither Sen. DeMint nor Gov. Sanford supported the Republican spending binge that spanned only 6 of the 8 years that Mr. Bush was in office. The Democrats supported those six and added two of their own. No one, so far, has been able to provide evidence that they personally lost any civil rights during the Bush administration; they just felt that way because he was in the White House. Lastly, if the current massive spending bill succeeds, all of you who want to know what the Republicans will say should know the answer: they won't have anything to say and, if they do, they won't be listened to. However, if they are right, will you listen to them?

 

redeyechiu

Feb 12, 2009

First of all, any dollars allocated to South Carolina should be redistributed to the other 49 states. "Anti-Freedom"? Classic fallback for the far right, you guys need to come up with some new ideas. Tax cuts, no government regulation and the free market is what got us into this mess. Your buddies in corporate America and Wall Street don't want free enterprise. Everytime some industry manages to scrw things up, all the free market clowns hide and send their surrogates to Washington to plead for government bailout. You really don't want "freedom" in its truest form, only your narrow self serving definition.

 

welfaredesired

Feb 12, 2009

DThe stimulus package misses on important point. It is tax decreases that stimulate speending and generates revenue for the feds. Welfare whether to the individuual or banks is simply a give away. Banks had a big hand in getting us where we are -- let them pay and some should go out of business. Absent some sense of fiscal responbibilidty by Obama and crew we are headed for a high rate of inflation and eventually depression. See you in the soup lines!!!!!!!!

 

Floridians4Sanford&Demint

Feb 12, 2009

Right on, Governor. Right on, Senator. You gentlemen represent all of us who believe the porkulous bill along with TARP 1, TARP 2, and the additions planned by Bernake and Geithner will saddle our grandchildren with a $10 Trillion burden. Courage...you are not alone and you represent the voice stolen from us in both the House and Senate by three turncoat RINOs, Specter, Collins and Snowe. Today Judd Gregg joined you in denouncing the Obamanation. Godspeed to you all!

 

Swampfox

Feb 12, 2009

Thank you Gov. Sanford and Jim DeMint for representing South Carolina! Keep up the good fight. If this does finally pass, tell Washington to keep their money. Or better yet, take the money and pay the federal taxes of South Carolinians with it. We'll get the tax cut we know we need!

 

Lester

Feb 12, 2009

Thank you Senator Demint and Governor Sanford. This is a defining moment for our country and I appreciate and support your leadership on this spending nightmare! This outrageously blatant socialistic lurch is undermining the very foundation of freedom and democracy that has made our great. May common sense prevail and may men like yourselves continue to offer courageous leadership to millions of Americans who are ready to follow you.

 

Dean Herbst

Feb 12, 2009

Unfortunately, unless you bring back Snowe, Collins, and Specter and tack on some Dems, this is a done deal, and a sick one at that. The next problem is that if they win this battle, they will take it as a mandate to control speech..... and then... as a mandate to control guns.... and then as a mandate to have their own militia...... (this to quell the rioting)..... and then ..........

 

Accept the bailout money

Feb 12, 2009

All GOP governors should accept the money and use it fund tax breaks in their respective states to transform Obama's porkulus into Limbaugh's stimulus.

 

Gerald

Feb 12, 2009

the more this new president tries to push, panic and sweat people into thinking this package from the government is the best thing to come along since sliced bread only shows how really under skilled for the job he is. No back ground of experience to draw on other than ego does not a president make.

 

NotSoRight

Feb 12, 2009

Wow, just more garbage from the Right...I mean the wrong. Amazing how Republicans just cry foul over this stimulus package. Idiots like Michael Steele saying government does not provide jobs ever. Take a gander at DC fool. It's amazing how Republicans always want to pay the least in taxes yet reap the full benefits. Let me know when the "The IRAQ Stimulus Package" is helping Americans. Mission Accomplished and we're still at war????

 

Eileen

Feb 12, 2009

Thank you! Thank God we have someone in the senate who understands Economics. We support you! Please sign the petition to show your support. Sen. DeMint will take this petition to the floor. www.nostimulus.com

 

Katablog.com

Feb 12, 2009

Hopefully, you do realize the irony of a Republican talking about the loss of freedom after having spent the last 8 years assisting an administration that had done more take away our civil liberties than any other in the last 100 years.
Honey you ain't see civil liberty invasion until the government gets into your medical records and tells your doctor how he can and can't treat you! Isn't your medical records just a bit more private than a phone call the originates outside the USA?

 

PanSkeptic

Feb 12, 2009

What a cartload of sanctimonious illogic! More bankrupt Republican obstructionism. Not only have the Republicans failed the country, they want to keep on doing it even when they are out of power. Republican Whine: not a good whine, but a Great Whine.

 

Lawrence Morgenstein

Feb 12, 2009

Mr. DeMint and Govenor Sanford, I suggest you send back the federal dollars that are spent in excess of the taxes paid by the residents of the state of South Carolina. I suggest you close all US Military bases and return all federal highway, Homeland Security,US Department of Agriculture subsidy money and all US Department of Education funds. This will insure your state will be a total failure. Your state's ecnomy is subsidized by Federal taxes paid by US Citizes from NJ, NY and CT. I demand you return these dollars to aid our states. This subsidy obviously this a cost to our economy we can no longer be afford. Let us rebalance the distribution of fFedral dollars spent. You conider Federal spending a socialist act. So Senator Demint and Governor Sanford, I challenge you o return these funds.

 

SC

Feb 12, 2009

When this passes, and it will pass, make sure Sen. Demint and Governor Sanford and be consistent and don't take any of the money. Otherwise, you two are hypocrites. By the way, how is the economic situation of your state doing these days under your phenomenal tutelage?

 

Eric Piper

Feb 12, 2009

Sen. DeMint and Gov. Sanford reject Obama's stimulus plan as wasteful. But DeMint's proposed alternative centers on tax cuts that both Moody's Economy and the Congressional Budget Office found less effective -- and therefore even more wasteful. With due respect, they are either being ignorant or dishonest. Neither scenario gives much hope for a responsible opposition.

 

youpeople

Feb 12, 2009

there was literally nothing of substance said in this piece. They play the freedom card because it's the last one in the deck when their philosophy of basic economic principles are proven wrong time and again. Trickle down economics doesn't work when there's no

 

GOP Pals Halliburton, KBR Pay $579 Million in Bribery Fine

Feb 12, 2009

Halliburton and KBR, Bush Administration post children for unaccountable government contractors, have agreed to pay $579 million in fines in connection with bribery charges related to their attempts to win foreign contracts. That's real news. Funny, no comments about it on the Examiner editorial pages.

 

scotty t

Feb 12, 2009

hey bigfat cat take the tin foil hat off.. exactly what civil liberty did your loony left mind lose?

 

Flores de la Hoz

Feb 12, 2009

FDR saved capitalism. Simpleton followers of voodoo economics ayatollah Limbaugh and his Imans (O'Reilly, Hannity, Beck) have no idea how close we came in the 1930s to following the Soviet model of Joe Stalin or the fascist model of Mussolini. When poor people are desperate they turn to anyone (e.g., Hitler) who promises them food and shelter. We need to spend as much as is necessary to save capitalism. Once the economy is back on track we will need hyperinflation to vaporize our national debt. It will be a hidden tax on all foreigners who hold US$ as well as what is left of our wealthy elite who fail to invest in hard assets to protect their investments. We need to learn from the German on how to make capitalism work. Anglo-Saxon capitalism has been killed by greed.

 

Galloway

Feb 12, 2009

Great article, and the libs in this comment post are scary. The spending, which is printing of money we cannot back up- is debt. We can buy our own debt. China buys some, because there is nowhere else to go. the dollar will collapse, infation will follow and this will harm the poor most of all, because no body will be working to fund the welfare and other entitlements. We could have managed billions in the deficit alot easier with corp. tax rate cut, payroll tax cut, to give business incentive to hire people, We can never recover with trillions in debt. BO can pay off his unions. I think he wants economy to fail, take over census, so dems keep power, only gov. jobs will be available for the few, and the rest of us will live under a bridge.

 

A Sad Lady

Feb 12, 2009

God help my country. How did happen to our country...The land of the free.

 

Confused

Feb 12, 2009

Where were these guys when Bush Doudled the national Debt, and created this mess, where were these guys when Bush PRoposed to Socializm the banking system... I dont want to hear it now

 

cyberwop

Feb 12, 2009

Aren't these the same guys who spent the last 8 years saying deficits don't matter? "Let us eat cake." After 2010 and 2012 there will be no elected republicans left.

 

antonius

Feb 12, 2009

This is a very lame article that tells us absolutely nothing, except maybe to vote DeMint and Sanford out of office.

 

Jano

Feb 12, 2009

Great article! As a Republican, this is the proudest I have ever been of my party. Other than the three traitors, the GOP is standing united against this sewage called stimulus. To NotSoRight who asks what our fight for democracy in Iraq is doing to stimulate the US,, we are getting them trained up so they can return the favor

 

???

Feb 12, 2009

Where were you guys over the past 8 years as our national debt doubled? Were you thinking about the kids and grand kids then? Nice to see you finally found religion but a little late fellows wouldn't you say???

 

D Max

Feb 12, 2009

HA! Jim DeMint and Mark Sanford are from one of the biggest welfare states in the Nation. What are they scared of? Is the big bad Obama going to cut the welfare off? Get a frigging job!

 

cyberwop

Feb 12, 2009

Guess we shoulda paid off the national debt in 2000 when Bush inherited a surplus from Clinton. No we had to give billions in tax breaks to billionaires so we wouldn't have any more recessions. Hey wait a minute...Do you guys ever get tired of swimming around in in your own echo chamber? "Deficits don't matter" Dick Cheney

 

Eric

Feb 12, 2009

O.K. Kevin, Let me get this straigt. If Bush and the Republicans were not fiscally responsible when they were in power (tax cuts); That gives Obama and the Democrats the freedom to do basically the same (pork spending)? What is your party going to run on in the future? The last time I checked Bush and the Republicans are not on power.

 

hairman

Feb 13, 2009

What a pair!! These guys have 20-30% unemployment in some of their counties, and had unemployment funds being depleted for their citizens, and they are talking about they want FREEDOM. What a joke.

 

Iskillz

Feb 13, 2009

Unfortunately, there is an underlying notion in other parts of the country that people from South Carolina and similar, surrounding, southern states, are essentially morons. While its clearly irresponsible to generalize in such a grand and encompassing way, after reading this article, as well as some of the posted responses, I can state almost unequivocally that South Carolina really is filled with cluess half-wits who are wasting valuable resources which should be allocated to people in other states with normal-level brain function.

 

asp

Feb 13, 2009

The question is not whether or not the stimulus bill will work. The question is what kind of behaviors do we want to encourage, dependence on government or self-reliance. Democrats and pandering Republicans have turned our country stupid. Give me fiscal conservatives like Mssrs. Sanford and DeMint any day. I am a South Carolinian and I have taken notice of the principled stands you have both taken on fiscal restraint and individual responsibility. My thanks to you.

 

BeckyfromSC

Feb 13, 2009

If you listened to the SC Gov. addressing the SC Legislature, you would have heard him say that SC was not going to accept any of the money, just so they (SC officials) could fund their favorite projects. DeMint said it was wrong to put our children and grandchildren in debt, just to pay for fiscally irresponsible and foolish State's (ex. Calif.) foolish government programs, mandates and the resulting debt. (The comments above are my interpretations of the men's speeches.) What's even worse, is that the people in the blue states are fleeing the conditions that Democrat voting causes, and bringing their 'blue votes' to the Carolina's. And they think that the Carolina's will remain a great place to live? If those Democrat transplants vote to elect the same kind of officials they voted for before they fled to greener pastures...all the grass will be ruined nationwide. Someone has got to get these folks back to reality before the whole US looks like a Third World.

 

asp

Feb 13, 2009

I can't resist responding to Iskillz who, after stating that it is "clearly irresponsible to generalize in such a grand and encompassing way" immediately proceeds to "generalize in such a grand and encompassing way." Brilliant!!

 

Frank Pulaski

Feb 13, 2009

As a life long liberal, I had my doubts about OBama. But now that he will be expanding the welfare rolls, my doubts have been erased. As a tiny, small business man, every time welfare spending went up, so did my business, especially in the bar business. The first of every month witnessed financial blessings, as if from heaven on high, the booze flowed and the good times rolled. So for me, in my life experience, welfare spending is sound economics. Go Barack go!

 

TruthRevolution

Feb 13, 2009

Love all the name calling, and the level of honest debate and critical thinking that our government schools are obviously producing. We keep shooting for the lowest common denominator in all aspects of human behavior in this crazy, relative, experiment called the United States. I think we're really close!

 

BeckyfromSC

Feb 13, 2009

I should have said.."AND (Sen.) Jim DeMint said..." I didn't make it clear that DeMint's statements were not those of Governor Sanford.

 

asp (last post, promise!)

Feb 13, 2009

It is amusing to see posters like CONFUSED and KATABLOG who are so one-dimensional that they think all Republicans approved of Bush's spending. DeMint voted against the Bush Bailout, and I voted against McCain because he voted FOR it. I ended up voting Libertarian as a principled stand against Bush's economic policies. My point is...lumping all Republicans together is not the most insightful approach to political theory.

 

ODS sufferer

Feb 13, 2009

BFC, how EXACTLY do you feel your civil liberites have been taken away? BTW, I was not born with a good job and a good income. I bootstrapped myself and took advantage of the libery my country protects and made a life for myself. I cannot fathom any other way. BTW, I am not getting any tax breaks. All the tax breaks go to the people who are of low or no income. Ever hear of the AMT? Or even know what it is?? It is essentially parallel tax code just for the special people who happen to be considered rich. My parents got a tax rebate.. Problem is they don't pay taxes or have any income. the people in this country should wake up and be pissed that this Democrat government is hoddwinking them. Thsi is not stimulus, it is a giant freaking shoehorn. Teh dems are using the economy as a subterfuge for passing their pet programs and implementing the programs people don't want. I am royally pissed and I and my children will be paying desarly for it.

 

Feb 13, 2009

I have committed to not vote for anyone in either party that voted to bankrupt our future generations.

 

Alan Crouch

Feb 13, 2009

Hey Big Fat Cat... I am not afraid to use my real name here.. Let me start by saying while I don't agree entirely with the Bush administrations war on terror and some of the laws the enacted I must say to you name on person that you know that has had their civil liberties enfringed.. Name one American Citizen... Have we been attacked? Have the laws they enacted protected us as the were supposed to? The economic problem we face is due largely to the credit of democrats and their handling of Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac... The home mortgage crisis is ENTIRELY OWNED BY THE DEMOCRAT PARTY. And it is the basis for our current economic meltdown. Here you are supporting these morons when they caused this mess and they are robbing us all blind for their pet projects.. Pull your head out already.

 

NoBailout

Feb 13, 2009

Liberal tax and spend policies got us into this mess, wether is was dems or repubs. Now the GOP has wisened up, which you gotta give credit for. Let people keep their own money= better economy. Take people's money and have the gov't spend it on things people don't want= worse economy.

 

sc guy

Feb 13, 2009

If you like the economic situation in the city of Detroit and California, then you'll love it when the Dems turn the whole country into such financial cesspools by out-of-control spending

 

Ed

Feb 13, 2009

I agree. Where were you turkeys when the last administration was spending money like crazy? Seems to me like you are taking advantage of a situation just like the new administration and Congress is. Can't you do the right things at the right time? Do you always simply sweat the politics? The next election? Bottom Line: You blowhards all make me sick ... and scared. I don't trust any of you.

 

FoolsBeBroken

Feb 13, 2009

Bigfatcat you are quite a fool. I am so tired of hearing all these lefties whine about losing their civil liberties? Tell me Bigfatcat what rights did the evil George Bush strip from you? Could you not dissent? Could you not go see the latest Michael Moore film? Could you not post tirades over at Daily Kos? Give me a break. Now we have Obama and the Dems who will likely push for a Fairness Doctrine and are trying to push government into every sector of American life.

 

posterior_sling

Feb 13, 2009

bigfatcat: "I would like you to go and spout some of that in a few of the bars and coffee shops across the US where real people face real job loss and real home loss." Now, there's a beautiful picture. Let's see, jobless and homeless taking their last few pennies to sit and cry in their beer and coffee, then blame someone else when they can't figure out why they are broke. Try spending your money on some bootstraps.

 

Americans are buying it

Feb 13, 2009

"Earlier this week, President Barack Obama took to the primetime airwaves in what amounted to a hard sell on his singularly expansive ‘stimulus’ package. His problem? Americans aren’t buying." Wrong. Americans, like me, are buying the message. Republicans may not be buying it but the majority of Americans are. It was the whole reason why 54% of Americans voted for Obama. They knew what was going to happen if Obama was elected. 7.6 million unemployed Americans who watched their job disappear are for it.

 

freedomrevere

Feb 13, 2009

to arms america, to arms, the fifth column has taken over our goverment, and looks to sneek into place programs and spending,which will turn this great nation into a one party socialist gulag. A march on Washington on 4/14/2009 to protest this series of power grabs, and remove from office these crimanals who pose as our political leaders. They all must go, thats real change, fresh faces,= new ideas, without the taint of go along to get along.

 

Leah

Feb 13, 2009

Let's face it. Our government does not care about the Average American Taxpayers. They only want government to work so they can fill their pockets. And although there may be a few in Washinton who really do care, they are so out numbered that they can not do anything to help the American People. After listening to the Senate over the Stimulus and the way this Bill began- with only Democrats, and then after it was passed in the Senate - Private meetings to change things. Whoa! And they call this Change in Washington. The only thing that has changed in Washington is the Party in Control.

 

Richard Ludwigson Jr

Feb 13, 2009

IT is very depressing to read the comments of the people who support this ripoff bill. The comments clearly show the lack of knowledge about how our government is supposed to work. The Constitution details exactly what the federal government is allowed to do and this bill along with most of the rest of the government departments are unconstitutional. There are real limits to federal government power, unfortunately we the sheeple have allowed the politicians to steal power from the states where it really belongs. If you really want to know how government is supposed to work get a copy of the constitution and read it. It is very easy to understand and then maybe we can get this country back to what it is supposed to be. A Constitutional Republic, not a democracy, not a socialist experiment and not the Communism that B Hussein Obama wants to give us.

 

DemsMadetheMortgageMess

Feb 13, 2009

To all you idiot lefties who have posted about how the republicans put us in the mess that our country is in, don't you ever damn forget why we're in this mortgage crisis. The dems of the Clinton Era pushed for the "Everyone should own a home" initiative, allowing people (especially blacks) who have no business owning a home to be able to take out a mortgage. You can't own a 150,000 home if you only make $30,000. America is meant to be the land of sturdy individuality and personal responsibility. Instead, nonrecourse lending laws mean that mortgages, as an asset class, are of dubious value. This is made worse by the fact that traditionally many American mortgages were typically set at a fixed rate for the 25- or 30-year life of the loan and the borrower often has the nifty ability to refinance without penalty. It should come as no surprise to anyone that when you give this much power to a black person, they're gonna screw it up and run the country into the ground.

 

Dave

Feb 13, 2009

I remember a time when the Libs/Dems were all in favor of Free and Open Debate on Issues of Import. This Poison Pill that has Passed was Not Debated, In fact the Majority of Congressmen Did not even have a copy of the Bill. Intimidated and Coerced into Voting for a Pig in a Poke by the Baby Killer In Chief.

 

y2kaboom

Feb 14, 2009

Dear BHO Washington is so twisted and turned. they "know they are bad" but "it was ok back then" we must remove the guilt,clean the slate of mistakes and work past the simulus past to a brighter future.

 

James

Feb 14, 2009

What DeMint and Sanford are talking about regarding welfare is in Section 2101 is a temporary emergency fund (which is supposed to expire in October 2010) for Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (the core welfare program) for fiscal years 2009 and 2010 (basically from late 2008 to late 2010). The sections forbids any granting of funds from the temporary emergency fund beyond fiscal year 2010 (which ends in October 2010). Believe me, I have read the bill (or portions of it) and there is nothing in the bill that repeals the requirements from the original 1996 welfare-reform law that required recipients to work after two years on the dole nor does it repeal the five-year lifetime limit in the 1996 law.

 

Hawaii GOP

Feb 14, 2009

Hearing Obama talk about the economy, I keep looking for flames spouting out of the Reichstag.

 

kellygirl

Feb 15, 2009

Bigfatcat - If you knew anything about our governer and our senator, you would know that they NEVER walked in lock-step with the Bush administration, who to date is the worst administration judging by the constitition. No, Governor Sanford and Senator DeMint are true southern rebels and should be respected as such. Try painting with your broad brush somewhere else!

 

Joyce Keane

Feb 16, 2009

I am 73 yrs old and I would rather give up any help from the Govt. to ensure my children's and grandchildren's future.I feel this money is wasteful and will be a disaster for our country.

 

dpw

Feb 16, 2009

Considering the actions taken by our California politicians, and after reading this editorial, I should consider moving to South Carolina. You are very lucky to have a couple of leaders really looking after the interest younger citizens.

 

drummer

Feb 16, 2009

Everybody is forgetting the illegal alien problem we have in SC. I would bet more people would have a job .

 

Feb 16, 2009

I will do all that I can come election time to get all of these people out of office but then we have got to have something better than we have had to take over when that time comes. We haven't done too much to help the situation ourselves. I just wish that there was some way to help remove the scum like Pelosi, Reid, and that crowd. I feel that Obama will pretty well take care of himself with his policies etc. That is a long time away with what we are facing

 

TRENWITH

Feb 16, 2009

THIS STIMULIS WILL SOLVE THE 55TRILLION SOCIAL SECURITY PROBLEM! MADICARE WILL JUST LET ALL US OLD FOLKS DIE!

 

Feb 16, 2009

jOHN Edwards was right there are two americas, we should all move to the other one

 

Lucia Loiso

Feb 16, 2009

And why does a domestic stimulus bill contain more than $180 million in funding for diplomatic and consular operations that are most likely taking place on the other side of the globe? some things going on on the other side of the globe concern you too, or at least it should. take iraq for example. if bush had dome more diplomatic work maybe you wouldn't be funding a useless catastrophic war with your tax money. hows that for concerns outside of your narrow backyard?

 

JustSteve

Feb 17, 2009

Nice article, well written prose in favor of your non support of our new president and his efforts to do something positive for the majority of American workers. Maybe if you took the time to construct a plan to stimulate the downward spiraling of the economy you would have more support. Spend more time coming up with your own ideas and less time on condemning anyone else's and you'll gather more support. Get rid of the "with us or against us" attitude. That's what gave the Bush administration an everlasting black eye!

 

Notworriednow

Feb 17, 2009

1. You ruined our economy with YOUR TAX CUTS, but only for the WEALTHY along with no oversight for our financial institutions, and the TARP is a debacle. 2. You doubled the national debt with two wars, oh, and thanks for getting our fine men and women killed for nothing in Iraq, another lie postulated by President Bush and you neo-cons. 3. You tried to destroy our Constitution with the “Patriot Act” WITH NO DEBATE but let us be truthful and call it what it really is the “Fascist Act.” You now have the gall to blame all the problems America faces on the Democrats. You Republicans are all MINDLESS HYPOCRITES, with the exception of Olympia Snow, Susan Collins, and Ben Nelson.

 

xlntcat

Mar 14, 2009

Just think if we follow Mark Sanfold's lead, the rest of the country could be in the same shape as South Carolina! Now that's frightening.

 


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