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Obama sides with Chavez, Castro against Honduran democracy

Examiner Editorial
 
July 2, 2009

Okay, let's get this straight: According to President Obama, the U.S. must at all costs avoid even the slightest appearance of meddling in the internal affairs of Iran. But it's quite all right for the U.S. to join a declared enemy like Hugo Chavez to support another wannabe strong man like now-former Honduran President Manuel Zelaya? If this is the "policy of engagement" that is required to repair America's image around the world, we ought not be surprised when foreign leaders conclude the U.S. has no consistent, coherent policy abroad, and then act accordingly. When they do, it will be to advance their interests, not those of the U.S. For some, like Chavez, it could be an opportunity to do serious and possibly irreversible damage to America's legitimate overseas interests.

To be sure, the Honduran situation is an unusual one. At first glance, it looks like a return to the lamentable cycle of democracy followed by military coup that plagued Latin America for so long. But it doesn't require much inquiry to see the reality behind the headlines: Honduras is a remarkable demonstration of a democratic country acting legitimately and constitutionally to protect itself against a domestic threat aided by a hostile foreign power. Here are the essential facts of the Honduran "coup:" The Honduran constitution limits the president to one four-year term and establishes a process for amendment via a national referendum called by the Congress. But Zelaya demanded a rump referendum to enable him to seek re-election. In response, Honduras' attorney general and courts warned Zelaya to back off. Zelaya instead pressed forward, using illegal ballots shipped in from, guess where, Venezuela to stage an illegal referendum. That prompted the Honduran Supreme Court to rule the Zelaya referendum unconstitutional and to order the military not to participate in the voting process. Zelaya persisted, was arrested by the military, as he had been warned he would be, and went into exile.

Here is where the Honduran example departs from the conventional wisdom: Instead of suspending the constitution and assuming power for themselves, the generals supported the Congress, which in an emergency session declared its own top leader as Zelaya's interim successor and affirmed the election in November of a permanent successor. These actions were also affirmed by the Honduran Supreme Court. In other words, as was said over and over here after Watergate, "the system worked." So why is Obama - and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton - siding with Chavez and two of his America-hating buddies, Cuba's Fidel Castro and Nicaragua's Daniel Ortega, against an intact democracy?



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Nina

Jul 2, 2009

Yes, WHY? Why has the Obama administration committed this act of hypocrisy? Why haven't Hillary Clinton and Hugo Llorens (the US Ambassador to Honduras) correctly advised the President and his team on the US benefits of this forced succession?

More importantly, does Obama ultimately lack the foreign policy experience to deal with Chavez and his puppet, Zelaya?

 

Richard Helfrich

Jul 2, 2009

I Think the question answers itself. Chavez is a Marxist bent on communizing his sphere of influence. Obama is also a Marxist bent on communizing his sphere of influence.

 

Concerned American

Jul 2, 2009

Obama has just disclosed his hatred for
America. He should be removed from
office.

 

peace4future

Jul 2, 2009

If the top changes to "Obama sides with Chavez, Castro against Honduran", I can understand or even agree with it. But add the democracy in the end, it will just make me laugh. Didn't you know there was a military coup just happened in Honduras? A democratically elected government, good or bad, was overthrown by the military of the country? So, are you saying the military generals "democratically" decided for the people that their elected president was "undemocratic"?

 

PFD

Jul 2, 2009

peace4future -- get your facts straight before you post your dribble. read something besides Obama mantra and you will find this was not a coup of a "democratically elected government" -- it was the democratically elected government who threw out the term limited dictator wannabe. Read something besides the Gibbs talking points please.

 

MaineMariner

Jul 2, 2009

Obama should be nervous....his power grabs, creation of a private government of Czars, control of the press, and appointment to an Acorn ally to the Supreme Court is the setting of a similar hidden agenda.....unlimited terms for the Presidency ! !! !!

His every move and publicity is CAMPAIGNING, not GOVERNING according to the US Constitution.

 

cflr

Jul 2, 2009

People can't see this was not a military coup. Yes it's a hit to democracy in the way they did it, but no.. the armed forces are not in control. Congress has designated an interim president until this year's elections are held. Democracy his rised against a democratically elected leader turned into a law-breaking tyrant.

 

Nina

Jul 2, 2009

peace4future: You are mistaken. It was NOT a coup, contrary to what the US and the international media repeat as a mantra. It was a LEGAL SUCCESSION. The only wrong-doing was the expulsion of the President to Costa Rica in his pajamas. He had already spent $20M million dollars on the "illegal referendum" and had passed Legal Decreto 20 which stated his intentions for Constitutional Reform. Educate yourselves so that you don't make the same errors as President Obama.

Honduras will be one of Obama's biggest failures in office.

 

Alberto from HONDURAS

Jul 2, 2009

Hello, can somebody forward this to President OBAMA, This reveiew of events are as simple as it gets. Nothing else happen, we do not want Zelaya HERE. He can go play with Chavez in Venezuela, and see if he supports the opresion.

 

mauricio

Jul 2, 2009

president zelaya was illegally removed from power,as a honduran citizen i want my president reinstated immediately because he was democratically elected by the people of honduras, we do not recognize any other president other then zelaya .

 

Democracy Wins

Jul 2, 2009

Maurico, your president overstepped his authority. Your Supreme Court and Attorney General reminded him of the Laws of your country. He violated the oath of his office to follow the laws of your country. He was arrested, and was not even jailed. The Military did not seize power. Your Congress did it's job. Democracy Won. The fact that Obama cannot see that is very, very scary for us US Citizens.

 

alicia

Jul 2, 2009

Our President meddled into Hondurean politics where the people are peacefully dealing with a dictator who is obviously friendly with Chavez and Castro BUT he doesn't want to meddle in the Iranians killing their own people. He really doesn't know what he is doing in foriegn policy and we know he doesn't know what he is doing in domestic policy. He just keeps getting worse daily.

 

Göran

Jul 2, 2009

So! This is where the right wing-nuts hang out to chat! Get your grubby paws off OUR president and recall, please, that a military coup IS a military coup. If there were a military coup against Morales, for instance, wouldn't you all sing a different song?

 

Joseph Wootten

Jul 2, 2009


Our Dear Leader is just worried about the precedent that will be set as he and his acorn friends subvert our constitution. All Marxist thugs must remain united!

 

Jul 2, 2009

When a president does something that goes against the constitution, you makes moves to impeach him. These militants did not even try for a democratic procedure. Now they have shut down media outlets in Honduras and even took some journalists hostage.
The only people in the world who are trying to say this is a legal way to remove a DEMOCRATICALLY elected president are a FEW right wing whackos. Every other nation has condemned this illegal act.

 

Ira

Jul 2, 2009

I have been an Obama supporter, but I am outraged at the position he is taking on this. It is against the facts, it is against democracy, and it is illogical. And for those that keep calling it a military coup, these are the facts:

1) The military did not assume power or appoint anyone leader.

2) They followed the orders of the Supreme Court.

3) Zelaya was removed from office based on his breaking law, with the consent of the Court and Congress--so the job fell to the military. Who else was supposed to carry out the order? A traffic cop?

The problem with leftists is that they have a problem with the facts.

 

Truthfully Yours

Jul 4, 2009

For those ignorant people that do not live in Honduras, it was not a "military coup". If you are getting your sources from CNN you are completely fooled. A military coup is when the military gets rid of the president and stay in power. In this case, the military acted with an order from the Judicial and Legislative branches to get rid of a president that had 3.2 million dollars in cash in his office, a TV station and a newspaper coming from Chavez and drug money. I would rather Honduran's suffer for 5 months than turn into a Cuba. They have balls, people wake up and smell the coffee!

 

Truthfully Yours

Jul 4, 2009

and by the way, the military handed the power off to a new president...that's not a coup

 

A Honduran-American

Jul 5, 2009

Part of the problem is that people hear the word 'coup' and a script of condemnation comes flowing out, without regard for the details of Honduran law, constitution and the majority will of its people. We in Honduras are shocked at the misinformation in the mainstream media. I voted democrat and I hardly ever look at conservative media opinion. But in this case, conservatives commentators are some of the only people who at least are getting the facts right. We should all be concerned by Obama's misinformed comments. Forcing back an unlawful president could tear our democracy apart. At least let us Hondurans deal with out problems through our laws, and stop forcing us to do what you want through military and economic threats.

 

Joe2

Jul 5, 2009

Americans should be outraged that their president, the man who is sworn to defend America, is siding with Marxists! Why is he sympathetic with this crowd of thugs? Could it be that he is a Marxist also?Everyone, especially the people who supported this man had better pay attention. Is this really what they want for their country?

 

Dr Arthur Frederick Ide

Jul 7, 2009

Zelaya was elected president of Honduras. Right-wing radicals used a rogue military to kidnap and illegally remove Zelaya so that their coup would continue and the military slaughter two boys: ages 19 and 10. The USA must do all it can to stop this coup and restore its rightful president and send the clown serving as president his mercanery army and the Honduras Supreme Court to the World Court to be tried for crimes against humanity.

 

Dr. Arthur Frederick Ide

Jul 7, 2009

All constitutions (including the USA) are subject to amendments. No constitution is exempt from referencum. Zelaya was following the constitutional right of all citizens and did nothing wrong. Having lived for years in Honduras I watched 98% of the people suffer while fascist supporters (the rich being the 2% minority) continue to oppress the people --now enflamed that Zelaya raised minimum wages for the working and middle class. Those who support the puppet president of today want a fascist state and are already in tune with Mussolini and Hitler.

 

H. Branch

Jul 7, 2009

Concerning official DC response to the Honduras situation: there exist only two possible options in this scenario:
1) Hillary and Obama have no idea what they are doing, which bodes ill for our future; or 2) Hilary and Obama know exactly what they are doing, which bodes ill for our future.

 

Truthfully yours

Jul 8, 2009

Dr..., do you live in Honduras now? Based on the non-sense comments you are making I take you don't. Either that you are a leftist extremist. The Judicial and Legislative issued an order to the military to remove him based on many violations to the constitution. My friend, you lived two years, I lived most of my child/adult life there. If you are a Dr, then your sense of judgment is skewed. Thought the constitution was violated, it was the best thing for the country. Here are some facts for you:

How would you explain the video that was found of the "beloved" president's peon withdrawing over L40 million of federal money (that was broadcasted today) to be used for an election that was deemed as illegal by the supreme court? Isn't that stealing from "the people"? How do you know it was the authorities who killed the "boys"? How do you not know that they were turned martyrs by the same mob in order to create chaos?

 

Truthfully yours

Jul 8, 2009

Dr..., do you live in Honduras now? Based on the non-sense comments you are making I take you don't. Either that you are a leftist extremist. The Judicial and Legislative issued an order to the military to remove him based on many violations to the constitution. My friend, you lived two years, I lived most of my child/adult life there. If you are a Dr, then your sense of judgment is skewed. Thought the constitution was violated, it was the best thing for the country. Here are some facts for you:

 

Truthfully yours

Jul 8, 2009

How would you explain the video that was found of the "beloved" president's peon withdrawing over L40 million of federal money (that was broadcasted today) to be used for an election that was deemed as illegal by the supreme court? Isn't that stealing from "the people"? How do you know it was the authorities who killed the "boys"? How do you not know that they were turned martyrs by the same mob in order to create chaos? Why is Venezuela/Nicaragua requesting for the US to remove the U.S base from Honduras? Because they want to put their puppet back so they can keep committing the crimes they were. Where did the "president" got money to put a TV station and newspaper when it is known that these clowns (as you call them) make little money.

 

Truthfully yours

Jul 8, 2009

How would you explain the video that was found of the "beloved" president's peon withdrawing over L40 million of federal money (that was broadcasted today) to be used for an election that was deemed as illegal by the supreme court? Isn't that stealing from "the people"? How do you know it was the authorities who killed the "boys"? How do you not know that they were turned martyrs by the same mob in order to create chaos? Why is Venezuela/Nicaragua requesting for the US to remove the U.S base from Honduras? Because they want to put their puppet back so they can keep committing the crimes they were.

 

Truthfully yours

Jul 8, 2009

How would you explain the video that was found of the "beloved" president's peon withdrawing over L40 million of federal money (that was broadcasted today) to be used for an election that was deemed as illegal by the supreme court? Isn't that stealing from "the people"? How do you know it was the authorities who killed the "boys"? How do you not know that they were turned martyrs by the same mob in order to create chaos? Why is Venezuela/Nicaragua requesting for the US to remove the U.S base from Honduras?

 

Trutfully yours

Jul 8, 2009

How would you explain the video that was found of the "beloved" president's peon withdrawing over L40 million of federal money (that was broadcasted today) to be used for an election that was deemed as illegal by the supreme court? Isn't that stealing from "the people"? How do you know it was the authorities who killed the "boys"? How do you not know that they were turned martyrs by the same mob in order to create chaos?

 

Truthfully yours

Jul 8, 2009

How would you explain the video that was found of the "beloved" president's peon withdrawing over L40 million of federal money (that was broadcasted today) to be used for an election that was deemed as illegal by the supreme court? Isn't that stealing from "the people"? How do you know it was the authorities who killed the "boys"?

 

Truthfully yours

Jul 8, 2009

How would you explain the video that was found of the "beloved" president's peon withdrawing over L40 million of federal money (that was broadcasted today) to be used for an election that was deemed as illegal by the supreme court? Isn't that stealing from "the people"?

 

Truthfully yours

Jul 8, 2009

How would you explain the video that was found of the "beloved" president's peon withdrawing over L40 million of federal money (that was broadcasted today) to be used for an election that was deemed as illegal by the supreme court?

 

Truthfully yours

Jul 8, 2009

How would you explain the video that was found of the "beloved" president's peon withdrawing over L40 million of federal money (that was broadcasted today)

 

Truthfully yours

Jul 8, 2009

How would you explain the video that was found of the "beloved" president's peon withdrawing over L40 million

 

Truthfully yours

Jul 8, 2009

Did you know that Zelaya did not do anything after the 7.4 earthquake hit Honduras at the end of May? Instead, the next day he started promoting the stupid illegal "survey" using federal funds while tons of people were severely affected. Also, there has been a lot of swine flu outbreaks that the government did nothing about because they were too busy doing illegal crap. Did you know that many state/federal workers have not gotten paid because the budget was never turned in.

 

laslavic

Jul 12, 2009

it sickens me that this man uses his pulpit bought for him by leftist extremists to pretend to speak for all of us...he speaks only for a minority of ideologues. He speaks for his brethren at moveondotorg, acorn, the UAW and other vulgar groups on the the soros payroll

 

Guatemalan

Jul 25, 2009

Honduras set the example. Guatemala have another Chavez's lacay as a president. Ad President Obama its laying himself as a doormat for Chavez's/Fidel's and Iranian interest. Chavez has made deals with Iran and other me=iddle east countries and rigth now their terrorist are traveling with Venezuelan passports. When Obama its going to open the eyes?

 

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