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A big win for House Democrats. Now the Senate awaits.

By: Susan Ferrechio
Chief Congressional Correspondent
11/08/09 12:05 AM EST

By a vote of 220-215, the House moved to make sweeping and historic changes to the nation's health care system. Democratic leaders overcame near-universal opposition from Republicans and 39 moderates and vulnerable freshmen within their own party to eek out a victory that may be short-lived, as the Senate is likely to pass a far different health care bill in the coming weeks.

The House bill would cost $1.2 trillion and would create a government-run public health insurance option. It includes new subsidies to help people pay for insurance coverage. It is funded through tax increases, cuts to Medicare and fines for those who do not obtain insurance or provide it for employees. The bill would extend health care coverage to an additional 36 million people.

One Republican, politically vulnerable Rep. Joseph Cao, of Louisiana, voted for the bill.

Democrats were able to pull off a victory in part by allowing pro-life Democrats to offer an amendment that would prevent any federal funding from being used to pay for abortions under the government-run health care exchanges that would be established.

The provision passed 240 to 194 with help of 64 Democrats. While many liberals opposed the amendment, they agreed to vote for final passage, in part because some harbor hopes it will be removed later, in conference.

House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, tried to use this sentiment as a wedge to create more opposition from moderate Democrats.

"It's pretty clear this could be a shell game underway," Boehner said. "We have no guarantee that when it comes back from conference that language, stopping taxpayer funding for abortion, will be in the bill."

"Have you ever had a guarantee like that from anybody since you've been here?" Rangel responded.

The House rejected two Republican attempts to alter the bill. By a party line vote of 176-258, a provision failed that would have substituted a GOP health care proposal for the Democratic plan.

The House also said no to Republican language that would have instituted medical malpractice reform and used the savings to help stave off billions in pending Medicare cuts.

"It gives members a chance to prioritize the health of our nation's seniors instead of lining the pockets of trial lawyers," Republican Whip Eric Cantor, R-Va., said.

Democrats and proponents of the bill who packed the viewing galleries broke out into applause when the clerk recorded 218 votes in favor of the bill, which was just enough needed for passage.

Of the 39 Democrats who voted against the measure, the vast majority were moderates and vulnerable freshmen from swing districts.

 




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Mike

Nov 8, 2009

Sickening. Costs will go up for everyone whether directly or indirectly and quality of care will go down. Say good bye to your and your childrens freedoms. Total power grab!

 

ladybug

Nov 8, 2009

The House Democrats got a win that they seem to think vindicates their actions, but I don't think a 5 vote margin can be called a "big" win.

I'm not sure it will impress Blue Dog Democrats much. Now it will be up to the voters at home to let the Senators know how they feel about this big win.

 

Guy Jones

Nov 8, 2009

It's up to the Senate now to reign in the worst excesses of this bill, but I'm not optimistic. Their task will be akin to trying to renovate a termite-infested, mouldy, fire gutted old shack; it's just better to demolish it and start over with a clean slate.

 

Archie Moore

Nov 8, 2009

Consider this post a big "thank you" to the Founders for instilling the concept of bicameralism in the U.S. Constitution. Otherwise, this monstrosity of a bill would be heading to Supreme Soviet Obama's desk right now for his signature. Now, it's up to the U.S. Senate to carve this turkey of ill-conceived, costly, bureaucrat-enabling legislation. Let's hope for the best. Otherwise, the country is headed for irreparable insolvency and irrelevance.

 

ggordon

Nov 8, 2009


It's a very sad and telling day that we have to rely on the Senate to make the right decisions. I have only marginally higher confidence in them over the House. It will take 60 votes though.
A huge majority of Americans are against this unconstitutional and irresponsible garbage. I hope they well remember...
What is so laughable - the references to Social Security and Medicare - this vote being on the historical proportion of those votes. IS'NT JUST LOOKING AT THE MESS THOSE PROGRAMS HAVE CREATED ENOUGH TO MAKE ANY REASONABLE PERSON RECOIL AND RUN? THIS SHOWS HOW GROSSLY OUT OF TOUCH THE DEMOCRATS ARE - IT IS 180 DEGREES OUT...

 

tiredofit

Nov 8, 2009

Unless it was just done for "cover" when the bill comes back to the House if the Stupak amendment is not part of the bill, then Stupak and 39 others of his group will not be able to vote for it.

 

higgins1990

Nov 8, 2009

Liberals cheer as they destroy America.

 

Guy Jones

Nov 8, 2009

@ggordon

You hit the nail right on the head. Medicare/SS's woeful finances -- to wit, $60 trillion in unfunded liabilities -- argue against any new government programs until that mess is cleaned up first. That is the way of common sense and prudence -- make sure the obligations already on the books can be met before making more commitments. Not so hard to understand, is it? Yet, instead of looking at Medicare/SS as cautionary tales of government fiscal ineptitude and mismanagement, the Dems seiz upon them as paradigms to be emulated!! It's totally crazy!

 

ggordon

Nov 8, 2009


The Democrats and Obama are slashing the throat of the golden goose, then kicking over a cliff.
Then we get to the anti-American and anti-Constitutional issues. Not "un", but "anti".
Communists, socialists and Marxists around the world must be jealous - all that money to spend.

 

ggordon

Nov 8, 2009

Reminds me of a couple of Beatles songs...
Back in the USSR and Revolution

 

Guy Jones

Nov 8, 2009

@ggordon

Actually, I suppose if one were to get technical, since the Chinese Communists will be loaning us the money to pay for Obamacare, they're less jealous than they are salivating over the prospect of putting the U.S. more in hock and subject to their whims...

 

Guy Jones

Nov 8, 2009

Which brings me to another point -- the way the Dems spend money, one would think they were unaware of the national debt and the amount of "debt service" (interest) we pay on it annually -- currently approaching $500 billion. Either they're ignorant, or they're aware, but simply indifferent to it. They don't care because this is about doing what benefits them as politicians -- staying in office. They'll be long dead and buried when the next generation is slaving away to pay off the debt. It's criminal.

 

exPatriot

Nov 8, 2009

Freedom and liberty gone. All that our forefathers, our grandfathers worked for, and died for, even in war, to protect our liberty and our freedom, doesn't matter. It's gone. The gimme generation of America just sold out guided by their millionaire congressman, who didn't even read the bill, and who don't have any idea of what the working class is, just voted any hope, dreams, freedom or liberty we might have had away. Can anybody help us?

 

Dick Nixon

Nov 8, 2009

@exPatriot

It's up to us to change things around. Otherwise, this great experiment in democracy will end up becoming an abject failure as the U.S. drowns in a sea of debt brought on by never-ending entitlement programs and politicians who spend money like drunken sailors. The message has to get out to the politicians -- no more!! Pass fiscally irresponsible bills and fail to reign in profligacy and you're out of there!! Once the electorate starts to reward politicians who exercise fiscal prudence and discipline, we will start to see a change in the way things get done. But, I admit, it will be an uphill battle.

 


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