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Anatomy of the House cap-and-trade roll call

By: Michael Barone
Senior Political Analyst
06/28/09 2:09 PM EDT

The House Democratic leadership succeeded in passing the Waxman-Markey cap and trade bill by a 219-212 margin. In all, 44 Democrats voted against the bill, and 8 Republicans voted for it. It’s always interesting to examine the roll call on a close vote on an important issue—when members are voting for keeps and when some significant number of members cross party lines. And House roll call votes provide useful clues in gauging the legislation’s possible fate in the Senate.


This bill was passed by the votes of one-third of the nation—the Northeast (New England, NY, NJ, DE, MD) and the Pacific coast (CA, OR, WA, HI), as the following table shows. Just over half the votes cast for it came from those two regions.
 
                                UNITED STATES               219         212
                                Northeast & Pacific            110          31
                                Rest of US                           109         181
 
To oversimplify just a bit, the one-third of the nation that doesn’t depend on coal for its electricity passed this over the less unanimous opposition of the two-thirds of the nation that does.

This was true despite Democrats’ gains in House seats in the rest of the nation in 2006 and 2008. Seven of the 8 Republicans who voted for the bill came from the Northeast & Pacific; 39 of the 44 of the Democrats who voted against it came from the rest of the nation. By the way, despite the opposition of Greenpeace and some other environmental restriction groups, only 3 of the Democrats who voted against this seem to have done so for similar reasons: Peter DeFazio (OR 4), Dennis Kucinich (OH 10) and Pete Stark (CA 9).

Only three members did not vote on the bill, Jeff Flake (AZ 6), Alcee Hastings (FL 23), and John Sullivan (OK 1). Nancy Pelosi made an exception to the usual custom that the speaker does not vote by casting an aye vote, indicating the importance she attached to the measure.
               
To gauge the bill’s prospects in the Senate, I’ll break the country down further.
               
● Northeast (CT, DE, ME, MD, MA, NH, NJ, NY, RI, VT). Representatives from these states voted 66-7 for the bill. These 10 states have 20 senators, 17 Democrats and 3 Republicans: Olympia Snowe (ME), Susan Collins (ME) and Judd Gregg (NH). That looks like at least 17 solid votes for a bill similar to the one that passed the House, and perhaps a couple more.

● Pacific Coast (CA, HI, OR, WA). Representatives from these states voted 44-24 for the bill, with 20 of the noes coming from California Republicans (there is one vacancy in California). These states have 8 Democratic senators and no Republicans. Count another 8 for a House-like bill, which brings the number up to at least 25.

● The Germano-Scandinavian Midwest (IA, MN, WI). This is the only other one of the regions I am using for this analysis that voted for the House bill, by a 13-8 margin, all on party lines. These states have 4 Democratic senators and 1 Republican; the Minnesota seat formerly held by Republican Norm Coleman is now vacant but may go to Democrat Al Franken soon if the Minnesota Supreme Court rules as generally expected. Count another 4 or 5 Senate votes for a House-like measure, which gets the number up to 29 or 30, with a live possibility of a couple more.

● The Industrial Heartland (IL, IN, MI, MO, OH, PA). This region voted 41-48 against the bill, mostly on party lines. These states have 9 Democratic and 3 Republican senators. With the exception of IL, with its large nuclear power plants, they tend to depend on coal-fired electricity. Republican senators from these can be expected to oppose a House-like bill, and some Democrats may too. Evan Bayh (IN) is up for reelection in 2010 and his state’s House members voted 2-7 against the House bill, with 3 Democrats crossing party lines. Also, 4 PA House Democrats and 2 OH House Democrats crossed party lines. That leads me to think that Bob Casey (PA), who sees himself as the spokesman for culturally conservative ethnics, and Sherrod Brown (OH), who sees himself as the tribune of unionized industrial workers, cannot be counted as sure votes for a House-like bill. MI House Democrats all voted for the bill, which suggests that their concerns particularly about the auto industry have been assuaged, but the states two Democratic senators, Carl Levin and Debbie Stabenow, may seek more concessions. As for Arlen Specter (PA), up for reelection in 2010, who knows? We’re having trouble here getting up to 40 sure votes for a House-like bill.
               
● The Great Plains and Rocky Mountains (AK, AZ, CO, ID, KS, MT, NE, NV, NM, ND, SD, UT, WY). Representatives from these 13 states voted 13-24 against the House bill. Only the delegations from CO, NV and NM, the three states in this group which voted for Barack Obama, voted for it. These mostly sparsely populated states have much more leverage in the Senate (where they cast 26% of the votes) than in the House (where they cast 9%). Most of them depend on coal for electricity. They have 11 Democratic and 15 Republican senators. The refusal of Kent Conrad (ND) to support the reconciliation process for cap-and-trade suggests that he and his ND colleague Byron Dorgan cannot be counted on to support a House-like bill (ND gets 93% of its electricity from coal and has big coal deposits), and that may be the case also with Tim Johnson (SD), Ben Nelson (ME), Max Baucus (MT) and Jon Tester (MT). Harry Reid (NV), who is proud of putting the kibosh on the Yucca Mountain nuclear repository, will likely support anything the administration does, but what about appointed Senator Michael Bennet (CO), who is up in 2010 and must be aware that Interior Secretary Ken Salazar’s brother John Salazar (CO) voted against the House bill? Better prospects are the just-elected cousins Mark Udall (CO) and Tom Udall (NM); the latter’s colleague Jeff Bingaman (NM) has been more cautious on some energy matters.
                  
● The South Atlantic (FL, GA, NC, SC, VA). These were good states for Barack Obama, who carried 55 of their 78 electoral votes and helped elect Democrats to the House or Senate in FL, NC and VA. Nevertheless representatives from these five states voted 26-41 against the bill. It won pluralities in none of these 5 states. There are 4 Democratic and 6 Republican senators from these states. Bill Nelson (FL), Jim Webb (VA) and Mark Warner (VA) would probably not face too much political peril in supporting a House-like bill; Kay Hagan (NC) might, although I note that Duke Power, headquartered in her state, is one of the firms eagerly gaming cap-and-trade systems.
               
● The Interior South (AL, AR, KY, LA, MS, OK, TN, TX, WV). Here is the heartland of opposition to the House bill; representatives from these 9 states voted 16-60 against the bill. The AL, LA, OK and WV delegations were unanimously against, with 7 Democrats among the 44 who opposed the House bill. AR and WV both have 2 Democratic senators, whose support for a House-like bill cannot be taken for granted; Mary Landrieu (LA) seems like a sure opponent, as do the 13 Republican senators from these states.
               
As I have gone down the list, I have stopped trying to tabulate the number of likely Senate votes for a House-like bill, but attentive readers will see that the number is clearly short of 50, much less the 60 needed to overcome a filibuster. This doesn’t mean the fight is over. Senate Democratic and Obama administration vote counters are looking at the same numbers and trying to figure out how to modify the House approach to get the votes needed.
               
A couple more statistical exercises. The population increases from 2000 to 2008 in the regions favoring the House bill, according to 
Census Bureau estimates, was 5.9%; the population increase in that period in the regions opposing the House bill was 9.2%. As a result, according to projections by Polidata, the states whose delegations voted for the House bill will lose a net 5 House seats in the reapportionment following the 2010 Census, and the states who delegations voted against the House bill will gain a net 5 House seats.

If you assume those five seats would represent a shift in votes on the House bill, it would have lost by a 214-217 margin. Of course, that’s just an arithmetical exercise, and I expect that if the House Democratic leaders had actually faced such a counterfactual they would have switched a couple more votes and would have won. But it does suggest that cap-and-trade is not necessarily the wave of the future.  



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NH

Jun 28, 2009

Anyone who voted for this will be VOTED OUT ASAP!

 

DS

Jun 28, 2009

This bill will cost jobs, cost the people and will cost the country. For myself and my family, our future votes will go against any who support this bill.

 

AntonioSosa

Jun 28, 2009

Lies, manipulation, intimidation, coercion and bribes were used to force the House to pass Obama’s economy killing bill! House members were not given time even to read the bill! Corruption and coercion have reached levels previously seen only in Marxist dictatorships like those of Cuba or Venezuela. Obama’s Cap and trade is another giant step towards Marxism — and the corruption, poverty, enslavement, destruction and despair that Marxism entails. Obama is working much faster than Hugo Chavez at destroying the economy and imposing Marxism. No wonder the Russians are gloating: From Pravda: “…the American descent into Marxism is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people…” http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/107459-american_capitalism-0 We must do whatever is necessary to support those ready to defend us and push out all those selling us out to Obama and his accomplices.

 

dick

Jun 28, 2009

every rep from the coal fired upper midwest who voted in favor of HR2454 voted in direct opposition to his/her constituents' best interests. one can only hope they will pay with their jobs.

 

Quadordie

Jun 28, 2009

I am absolutly shocked at the speed with which this country has fallen from liberty and freedom. I believe we sink ever closer to a split with middle america breaking free from the coasts. I stand with middle america and liberty. God Help us All!

 

Quadordie

Jun 28, 2009

I am absolutly shocked at the speed with which this country has fallen from liberty and freedom. I believe we sink ever closer to a split with middle america breaking free from the coasts. I stand with middle america and liberty. God Help us All!

 

taxed2death

Jun 29, 2009

ANOTHER COUPLE HUNDRED OR THOUSAND OUT OF EACH & EVERY HARD WORKING CITIZENS LIFE- BETTER PRAY IT DOESN'T CLEAR -AND SEND A MESSAGE AND DO NOT REELECT ANY OF THESE NARACISST MONEY GRUBBING POLITICANS !!

 

wbones8765@yahoo.com

Jun 29, 2009

We not only have that fight, but a fight with the EPA. If this is not passed we will have to fight in court. Goes back to the Supreme Court with new information provided and hidden by same EPA. If you would more information on that report it is 98 pages. The report goes pretty far in saying AGW is not happening. The 2007 IPCC used outdated data and pretty much is wrong!!!!

 

Skyrider

Jun 29, 2009

Ok, so where is this 98 page report? Show a credible link.

 

BeVeryAfraid

Jun 29, 2009

Wake up America! We have elected a president that the former USSR would've been proud to call their own. He is an enemy of the free market and liberty. He and his willing accomlices in the democratic controlled congress are destroying our country faster than any outside enemy. Do you people really want the government controlling energy and health care. They can't even afford to mow the grass any more and you want them to control your energy and health care! This is a joke right? God help us all!

 

mark brindle

Jun 29, 2009

THIS SHOULD BE A WAKE-UP CALL & RALLYING CRY TO STAND-UP & THROW THE BUMS OUT.IT IS OBVIOUS SEVERAL CONGRESSMEN CAVED INTO THE BOGUS RETORIC OF OF OBAMA INSTEAD OF REPRESENTING THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.ENOUGH IS ENOUGH,THIS IS THE BIGGEST FALSIE & CON JOB WE HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED TO.THIS ABUSE OF GOVERNMENT POWER NEEDS TO STOP!!!

 

mark brindle

Jun 29, 2009

THIS SHOULD BE A WAKE-UP CALL & RALLYING CRY TO STAND-UP & THROW THE BUMS OUT.IT IS OBVIOUS SEVERAL CONGRESSMEN CAVED INTO THE BOGUS RETORIC OF OF OBAMA INSTEAD OF REPRESENTING THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.ENOUGH IS ENOUGH,THIS IS THE BIGGEST FALSIE & CON JOB WE HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED TO.THIS ABUSE OF GOVERNMENT POWER NEEDS TO STOP!!!

 

Bill

Jun 29, 2009

Please read Paul Krugman's column in today's NYT (6/29/09). He is spot on. The climate problem is a clear and present danger to the planet.

 

Garfield

Jun 29, 2009

The problem is the disaster than awaits our economy if we don't contain greenhouse gases and do it soon. Do you like wildfires that destroy homes, strong strongs in the Atlantic, rising Oceans that displace people, droughts that diminish crops, a more acidic ocean that kills reefs? Don't forget more mercury in our fish and more birth defects from the mercury. This will get very expensive -- much more expensive than the current bill.

 

Garfield

Jun 29, 2009

Obama's retoric is not bogus. The bogus retoric is from those who deny the problems of climate change. The people who don't understand climate change should look at what is happening around them and read the reports of the scientists that don't work for Exxon.

 

Steven Camassar

Jun 29, 2009

I noticed that MD was included in the Northeast bloc in this analysis. But MD does depend on coal for much of its energy, at least as far as I can tell from the energy supply mix insert in my BGE bill. I don't have it handy but when I looked a couple of weeks back saw that something like 80% of the BGE energy mix comes from coal and nuclear. And wind and solar, 0.00%. How do they propose to increase those even to an ineffective and pathetic 5%?? At what cost. Renewable sources in total were like 4%, and most of that was hydroelectric. Give me a break. Here comes rationing or outrageous costs - probably both.

 

Jim

Jun 29, 2009

Skyrider, Because the EPA does not want you to see this document by Alan Carlin look for it at the Competitive Enterprise Institute http://cei.org/cei_files/fm/active/0/DOC062509-004.pdf Dr. Krugman is a propagandist for the New Fascisti. It is his job to create a crisis from "thin air."

 

Kevin, Cleveland

Jun 30, 2009

Bill and Garfield you are both crazy. Anyone see the retroactive tax in NY?

 

Texassteve

Jun 30, 2009

Bill get a grip. Krugman is a political hack, not a scientist. Global Warming has quietly changed its name to Climate Change because the last decade's data do not support warming nor do they confirm the computer models. Recent research at MIT showed that the narrow band of energy absorbed by CO2 is reaching the saturation point therefore more CO2 will have a reduced impact compared to what's already up there. In 20 years this will look as nutty as eugenics did 20 years after the fact, but it almost became commonplace due to the herd mentality, scare tactics, and lack of independent thought.

 

Texassteve

Jun 30, 2009

Bill get a grip. Krugman is a political hack, not a scientist. Global Warming has quietly changed its name to Climate Change because the last decade's data do not support warming nor do they confirm the computer models. Recent research at MIT showed that the narrow band of energy absorbed by CO2 is reaching the saturation point therefore more CO2 will have a reduced impact compared to what's already up there. In 20 years this will look as nutty as eugenics did 20 years after the fact, but it almost became commonplace due to the herd mentality, scare tactics, and lack of independent thought.

 

Kim

Jun 30, 2009

We are paying attention...do not vote for cap and trade!!!!

 

Charlotte

Jul 1, 2009

Doesn't it speak to the values of our news media that the celebrity deaths of this past week took priority over informing the public about this bill and the potential harm it will do? This is yet another sad commentary on where the loyalties of the news media lie.

 

CW

Jul 2, 2009

We don’t want any more Big-Government-Socialist programs for our Country.

 


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