Opinion

[Print]  [Email]        

Has the liberal moment come and gone?

By: Byron York
Chief Political Correspondent
09/30/09 7:16 AM EDT

A new Gallup poll shows a sharp increase in the number of people who say they want the government to promote "traditional values."

Gallup's question was simple: "Some people think the government should promote traditional values in our society. Others think the government should not favor any particular set of values. Which comes closer to your own view?" In the new poll, taken in the first days of September, 53 percent of respondents say they want the government to promote traditional values, while 42 percent say they do not want the government to favor any particular set of values. Five percent do not have an opinion.

The results are a significant change from recent years. For most of the last two decades, a majority of people have been in favor of the government promoting traditional values. But that number began to decline in 2005, and the number of people who believe the government should not favor any particular set of values began to rise. Last September, when Gallup asked the same question, the public was split down the middle on the issue, 48 percent to 48 percent. Now, opinion has rather abruptly gone back to the old position, and there's an 11-point gap between the two, in favor of traditional values.

By the way, the Gallup pollsters did not define "traditional values" when asking the question. "Thus, respondents answer in light of their understanding of the term," Gallup writes. But Gallup adds that "the results by party and ideology…suggest that respondents understand traditional values to be those generally favored by the Republican party."

The recent change in favor of traditional values has been most pronounced among independents, among whom Gallup says there has been a "dramatic turnaround." Last year, independents were overwhelmingly in favor, by 55 percent to 37 percent, of the government not favoring any set of values. In the new survey, those numbers are almost reversed, with 54 percent saying the government should promote traditional values and 40 percent saying it should not. Gallup did not find similarly striking changes among Democrats and Republicans, although Democrats have also moved a little bit in the direction of wanting the government to promote traditional values.

But it is the turnaround among independents -- Gallup also found similar numbers among people who called themselves moderates -- that put a screeching halt to the shift that had been taking place in the last few years. "Americans' views of the proper government role in promoting traditional values had moved in a more liberal direction since 2005, to the point that last year, as many said the government should not promote traditional values as said it should," Gallup writes. "If that trend had continued, 2009 would have marked the first time Gallup found more Americans preferring that the government refrain from actively promoting traditional values. Instead, Americans' attitudes reverted to a more conservative point of view on the matter. Now, Americans favor the government's promoting traditional values by an 11-point margin, similar to the double-digit margins favoring that view through much of the prior two decades."

There's no way to know precisely what this means. But here's one theory. In the last few years, public opinion on the role of government was driven by the intense unpopularity of George W. Bush and the Republican Party. Unhappy with Bush and the GOP, voters recoiled from the image of Republicans as the party of traditional values -- even though they basically held to those traditional values in their own lives. Now, however, with a government completely controlled by Democrats, that is, by the anti-traditional values party -- in last year's poll, Democrats were 60-37 against the government promoting traditional values -- the public has abruptly returned to its basic pro-traditional values position.

But that period of revulsion at Bush and Republicans from 2005 to 2008 left a legacy: a Democrat in the White House and large Democratic majorities in the House and Senate, at least until 2010. That is why you see Democrats racing to enact their agenda, even as they see the political conditions around them changing. They have the majorities, based on the public's very temporary mood of 2005-2008, and they are determined to put their preferred policies in place no matter what the public thinks now.

The Gallup numbers also suggest that Barack Obama and the Democratic leadership in the House and Senate have fundamentally misread their own victories. Did voters elect Democrats because they desperately wanted national health care? Sprawling and expensive environmental regulation? Federal deficits triple the size of just a few years ago? No. The voters elected Democrats because they were sick of Bush and Republicans. Now Bush and the GOP are gone and out of power. Democrats are doing what they thought the voters wanted. And it turns out the voters didn’t want that at all.
 




beltway confidential

In a television interview this afternoon, Democratic Tennessee Rep. Steve Cohen pronounced judgment on the doctors who were operating on Rep. Jack Murtha, D-Pa., when he died....

House Republican Leaders have sent a letter to the White House, imploring them to scrap their health care proposal and start from scratch at the upcoming health care summit that...

House Republican Leaders have sent a letter to the White House, imploring them to scrap their health care proposal and start from scratch at the upcoming health care summit that...

During our last big snowstorm, in December, I unearthed an old column by Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., in which he claimed that the winters in D.C. have become anemic, that global...






To view this site, you need to have Flash Player 8.0 or later installed. Click here to get the latest Flash player.


Most Popular Headlines





 


 



 

Reader Comments

All comments on this page are subject to our Terms of Use and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Examiner or its staff. Comment box is limited to 250 words.

brewpop

Sep 30, 2009

"Traditional values" may also include the direction we wish our country to go. As a result, this new majority in favor of traditional values may also be saying "We don't anything to do with Obama's socialist Utopian world." That is, we don't want the federal government dictating our choices or curbing our freedom with mandates and spreading our wealth around. I hope that's what all this means.

 

ggordon

Sep 30, 2009

Nothing "traditional" about our current - I was going to say "leadership", but they are not leaders. I'll say... money/power grabbers.
At least I hope everything that families/individuals used to provide for themselves re not "entitlements" or "rights".
I keep hearing this claim that free healthcare is a fundamental right. HUH!?
What on Erth are you talking about? Except that our current money/power grabbers keep telling people it is = along with many other things "traditionally" not an entitlement or right. "Vote for me - I'll make it free!"

 

BigAd

Sep 30, 2009

This happen as the so called "Mainstream Media" blitz the American people with anti-Bush sentiments for eight years of unrelenting criticism, unfortunately the American people bought it and fail to educated themselves, consequently election have consequences and this is the worse of all consequences an extremely leftist Congress, Senate and Presidency.

 

Art

Sep 30, 2009

I sincerely wonder if the majority of Americans'are sick enough of this power grabbing administration to throw them out?

 

QR4J

Sep 30, 2009

Even though I am a die-hard, dyed-in-the-wool Republican of the conservative variety, I was willing to give Obama a chance. I hoped that he would lead the USA to economic recovery. I hoped that he would put into place pro-growth policies. That hope was soon dashed to tiny pieces. He's a socialist. He's disgusting in his blatant grab for power into the lives of businesses and individuals. I pray that he fails miserably and he is so shamed that his ideals will not show their ugly faces for at least a generation.

 

Sectionhand

Sep 30, 2009

"The Liberal Moment" has simply lost traction ( Thank God ). It will always be with us but as one looks at what happened yesterday regarding "public option" ... It's the voice of the people which will always render final judgement .

 

Sectionhand

Sep 30, 2009

I wish that men and women went to congress ... not afraid of what their constituents think but rather emboldened by what their constituents think . The United States would be renewed by such an attitude .

 

Constitution First

Sep 30, 2009

I'd settle for a return to the Constitution.

 

Dark Eden

Sep 30, 2009

I agree with the polling here, but I have to pause in its construction. I'd prefer if it asked about multiple types of values: Do you want the government to promote: traditional values, liberal/progressive/whatever buzzword they want to call themselves values, um, libertarian values? (reaching here), and then at the end, list 'no particular set of values. I think that would get very different results, because here its like suggesting only republicans have values.

 

Commonsense

Sep 30, 2009

Obammie and his socialist/communist appointees need to be booted out. It's time to start thinking/talking IMPEACHMENT! California experimented with socialism and look where they are.

 

Nick Beddoes

Sep 30, 2009

What do York and Gallup mean by "traditional values"? Indifference to the plight of the uninsured and unfortunate and poor, or concern? Indifference to the trashing of our environment, or concern? Indifference toward civil rights and civil liberties, or concern? Support for governmemt imposing nonconsensus sectarian values on everyone, or support for individual freedom of belief and conscience? Support for the values of Madison and Jefferson and the other Founders, or support for the values of Limbaugh, Beck, O'Reilly, Ensign, Wilson, Bachmann, the birthers, deathers, and their groupies? Support for the Bush/Cheney/Rove values, or those of Obama and the majority of Americans who voted for Obama last fall? By itself the term "traditional values" is an empty noise. York and Gallup need to be more specific.

 

bobc

Sep 30, 2009

Nothing will change much, until we stop voting for crooks, tax cheats, and liars....as well as demanding news organizations to tell the truth and start doing investigative work.

We have a bunch of criminals sitting in D.C. dictating to citizens!

All stories about Obama's friends, his past associations were online during the campaigns....not one MSM reported them.

 

sick of it all

Sep 30, 2009

so yes basically we voted Bush and republicans out and when and if they get back in we'll vote them out again. Basically we take 8 years of each and throw them out.

 

none@none.none

Sep 30, 2009

Traditional values is a great marketing slogan, might even win a few elections. Yet as a recipe for governance it is hardly useful nor particularly conservative in the American sense.

An ever expansive Federal government is now traditional. A commerce clause with no practical limits is now traditional. Both suppositions are borne out by decades of history.

 

oracle3@roadrunner.com

Sep 30, 2009

Why "polls show" that America wants a so called "return" to traditional values, around here the near mass revulsion at the mention of God, Republicans, profits, and major corporations rule. I think if you will check back sixty or seventy years you will find that people threw out the Republicans for FDR, began to lose their respect for Christian religion (KKK), and picked up the Marxist definition of profits as "surplus value;" something that screwed workers.

 

Boyd

Sep 30, 2009

I suspect the turnaround among Independents/Libertarians is the result of them seeing what the Progressives were going to do with their newfound power. The cost of their philosophical/political purity was just too high to maintain.

 

haven't forgotten

Sep 30, 2009

The "intense unpopularity of George W. Bush and the Republican Party" was a deliberate creation of the media calculated to undermine the right and put their favored Dems in power.

Now that we've seen what's been wrought, don't expect the American people to be so easily fooled in the future...at least by the MSM.

 

Belial

Sep 30, 2009

There are some of us out here, and maybe even among the poll respondents, who may or may not favor "traditional values" (whatever that means) - but who in any case do not want the government "promoting" any set of "values" at all.

It just ain't their business.

 

senseless

Sep 30, 2009

Odd framing of the question.

To allow for fuller responsiveness, shouldn't it have been phrased, "Some people think the government should promote traditional values in our society. Some people think the government should promote progressive values. And others still think the government should not favor any particular set of values. Which comes closer to your own view?"

 

moptop

Sep 30, 2009

The Dems just drank too deeply of their own Kool Aide. That is why they "misread" the election results. They had the opportunity and goodwill to govern for a long time, but they were so eager to loot the treasury that they have blown it.

 

HULAgate.org

Sep 30, 2009

Opie Obama is to reality as Van Jones is to day job.

 

HULAgate.org

Sep 30, 2009

"The "intense unpopularity of George W. Bush and the Republican Party" was a deliberate creation of the media calculated to undermine the right and put their favored Dems in power."

True, but the pinhead press has always been out to get the incumbent, over time. That IS what they do, after all.

The GOP needs to be as loud and persistent as the opposition, if not more so, given that the media refs are almost always against the American team.

 

ladybug

Sep 30, 2009

Just as people in the poll who used their own definition of "traditional values," I think the Democrats are defining national health care without understanding what the public thought they were supporting in the 2008 elections.

I believe that there was a strong empathy for people who had no health care. But, that doesn't justify the pork-fest underway in the Congress now that is going to add greatly to the deficit. The President and Congress also seem to think that the public is naive enough to believe that we can keep the insurance we have when they are disrupting the systems that gave us that insurance.

Or, maybe they do understand that and are just making a power grab because they think they have the votes.

 

Julio E. Glacius

Sep 30, 2009

Does this mean I should sell my Astroglide stock before it tanks?

 

Doesitmatter

Sep 30, 2009

Traditional values. What kind of ridiculous nondescript term is that. Anyone with a brain knows it means different things to different people and everyone prefers what "they" think is traditional. Why Republicans can't talk to people like they have brains is beyond me. I guess because Republican values are the same as the dinosaurs. KIll, eat, amass wealth, take no prisoners. Everything else can't even be seen on the Republican radar. You would think that people that read this junk would be insulted at how ridiculously simple and contrived it is. Wow. You guys are plain scary.

 

Hejsan

Sep 30, 2009

"Kill, eat, amass wealth, take no prisoners" sounds EXACTLY to me like Pelosi, Clinton, Obama, Daschle, Rangel, pretty much ANYONE who went to Harvard, etc. etc. Excuse me, but WHO is AMASSING wealth? Democrats and those connected to Democrats. If you don't have money, Democrats don't want to talk to you unless you can steal votes and be paid off (Black Panthers, ACORN, SEIU, etc.). I need to get over the shock at how shameless liberals are in their accusing Republicans of what liberals are guilty of and just accept that liberals are programmed to project their own bad.

 

tim maguire

Sep 30, 2009

What if wanting the government to stay out of people's individual value judgments and decisions IS one of the traditional values I want the government to promote?

 

Mad Monica

Sep 30, 2009

Just goes to show, there are people in this country so uninformed about the real world that they'll vote for anyone who sounds OK. Then when they get what they voted for, they're upset. We tried to tell you all what kind of guy Obama is, you didn't want to listen. Now you've shoved us all down the river without a paddle.

 

Arby

Sep 30, 2009

If "traditional values" means an excuse to push an Xtian agenda, count me out. But if it means a return to a constitutional republic of enumerated and *limited* powers then all I can say is, thanks Obama for waking up the sleeping giant of libertarianism in this country.

 

Syl

Sep 30, 2009

"I guess because Republican values are the same as the dinosaurs. KIll, eat, amass wealth, take no prisoners."

Typical progressive know-nothing statement. Dinosaurs don't amass wealth, dragons do!!

Anyway, the importance of this survey is the change in direction of attitude, not what the term 'traditional values' means to any particular respondent.

 

joe

Sep 30, 2009

'08 WAS A RACIST ELECTION. I HOPE IT DOES NOT HAPPEN AGAIN IN MY LIFETIME

 

hoyt

Sep 30, 2009

I am all for "traditions & morals".These people (liberals) that believe that "if it itches, scratch it" is what is wrong with the world today.

I am so tired of these people that hate Bush and have called him everything but a white man have a problem. I admire George Bush and respect him. When he made a decisiion that he truly believed in, he stuck with his decision and didn't stick his finger in the air to see which the wind was blowing. I would vote for him again .

 

sean252

Sep 30, 2009

Even though the real majority is traditional...Things will never change unless the media changes..

It will never ever happen and the minority cooooooks, gays,atheists,commies etc will get all their desires accomplished.

I live in California,, we couldnt get rid of PELOSI with a missle?

Sorry for the pessimism....THROW THEM ALL OUT!

 

Sep 30, 2009

I don't know that the Dems fundamentally mis read their victories as they massively over reached right out of the gate. The Stimulus bill was a Trojan Horse and Americans will not trust any multi-thousand page behemoth no matter what they are told is in it.

 

Boggs

Sep 30, 2009

@Nick Beddoes

Typical eltist libtard snarky comment pretending to be debate. Guess what moron, there is a whole world outside your little social circle of whiney for entitlements friends. "Traditional" does not mean within your lifetime or since you became interested in something. Only a liberal idiot like you would think it needs to be more clearly defined. And guess what moron? The "majority" of Americans did not vote for your little Tin God, just more of those that voted. By the way, how do explain his current very low poll numbers if he is so popular? Buyers remorse?

 

Molon Labe

Sep 30, 2009

I don't want the government promoting any kind of values. Is promoting values a legitimate role of government?

 

doogle

Sep 30, 2009

While the damage done by the Libs may be long term, the Liberal Moment is just a Liberal Nano-Moment.

In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

 

Ben Armato

Sep 30, 2009

I would like to see a couple more pollsters chime in on this topic before I get too excited. Even though I agree with their findings, the libs will counter with nonsense like "it's only one poll" or my personal favorite..."you're a racist, homophobe for believing in traditional values."

 

Dave M

Sep 30, 2009

Whatever Traditional Values means to each respondant, the democrats don't have them. They are the part of special interests - trial lawyers, union bosses, abortionist, pornographers, global warming scam artists, gays etc. none of these groups fits into any reasonable version of Traditional Values.

 

Howard

Sep 30, 2009

I am old enough to remember when "traditional values" included not employing, or living near, racial/ethnic minorities, and discriminating to the extend possible against homosexuals. Moreover, few middle-class couples were divorced. What do "moderates" actually have in mind now; and what do rock-ribbed conservatives have in mind?

 

Franklin Barfield

Sep 30, 2009

Look, George Bush and the leadership of the Republican party got the heave-ho because they abandoned the conservative values of the base of their rank and file membership. Obama can give thanks to them, wishy-washy independents and RINOs for his election... and let us not forget the droves of disgusted conservatives who stayed home on election day because the corrupted Republican party nominated another RINO in John McCain. Conservatives are seeking to take back the GOP and are going to get rid of the leadership in the process. The Tea Party movment proves we don't need the liberal, blue blood, country clubbers that have reigned over the GOP before & since Regan left office. We don't need the drive-by media and we don't need pollsters to tell us what's right. We will not be divided by race or ethnicity or the size of our bank accounts. We are united in the US Constitution and by God we shall prevail!

 

The Bishop

Sep 30, 2009

I cannot figure out why liberals are simply unable to govern. This is the third time in my adult life I have seen them in power and they have failed each time. And Yes, I do mean to say they have failed this time as well.

 

RoxannaDanna

Sep 30, 2009

I think the more important question is "Has the conservative moment arrived - again?"
And if it has, how can they keep from messing it up and making the best of it?

 

NathanHale

Oct 1, 2009

The Dems do not know how to govern because they ultimately are dictators. They may try to push health care through next week. MUST READ: http://blog.heritage.org/2009/09/30/morning-bell-government-run-health-care-by-next-thursday/

 

Tom O'Gorman

Oct 1, 2009

It's worth pointing out, of course, that many libertarian/conservative people, who live by traditional values, and may vote GOP, would have answered that the Government "should not favor any particular set of values".

 

BackwardsBoy

Oct 1, 2009

If by traditional values you mean a respect for God, freedom, liberty, prosperity, self-governance and individualism, then my answer would be a resounding "yes". These are positive values that once were promoted, taught and encouraged until the countercultural revolution began to infest our society, with the goal of destroying our country from within. Our current crop of politicians hold none of these values, and the rot of our inner cities is proof of their failure in the guise of "progress". Now, they want to turn the entire country into one big Chicago, replete with all the corruption, crime, and cronyism that goes along with it.

 

kim

Oct 1, 2009

Maybe you are getting skewed results because many liberals no longer have the money, or even homes, for your polls to reach them. Did you go under the bridges to get your numbers? The thieving traditional fundies are more accessible for most reporters. Now get back to reporting what is important instead of this dividing red herring kind of crapola.

 

Winston

Oct 1, 2009

The "liberals" will always be with us. Just like at the end of The Lord of the rings, Sauron is not killed, just dislodged, and flies off to fight another day. They will come back under another flag. Once they get the teeniest bit of their claw into control of the health care industry they will have all the traction they need.

 

Germaine

Oct 1, 2009

The thing about polls is that they are not always accurate. You have to take a lot of things into consideration like: nationality of person surveyed, race, religion, political affiliation, sex, geographical region where person lives, educational background, work background etc. etc. etc. Believe it or not, each one of these plays a part in how people think and feel about issues, and how they will answer a question.

 

Germaine

Oct 1, 2009

One more thing. So in response to my post, the margin of error plays a very big factor in how polls should be interpreted, and if most of the polling takes place, for example, in the Bible Belt states, one is going to get different viewpoints than, say, if a person from California (especially the San Francisco area)were surveyed.

 

Bob Buchanan

Oct 1, 2009

I'm not sure the Dems problem is:

"Democrats are doing what they thought the voters wanted. And it turns out the voters didn’t want that at all."

Hypothesis: Obama doesn't care if he gets reelected in 2012, he just wants to drive the country towards Socialism. He's the ultimate ideologue.

 

msb

Oct 2, 2009

I have but one thing to say to Obama's administration and those who agree with their policies. Thomas Jefferson said it best (and I'm paraphrasing here): "Any government large enough to give the people everything they want is also large enough to take it all away." Those who believe they are entitled to this, that and the other should perhaps think twice.

 

jack wills

Dec 22, 2009

Jack Wills
Jack Wills Fashion
jack wills universityhref="http://www.huxhbuy.com/special.html">Cheap North Face
Discount North Face Jacket

 

Nike Dunk SB

Dec 22, 2009

Nike Air Max
Nike Shox Shoes
Nike Dunk SB
Air JordansCheap North Face
Discount North Face Jacket

 

UGG Classic Mini

Dec 22, 2009

UGG Classic Mini
UGG クラシックミニ
UGG Classic TallCheap North Face
Discount North Face Jacket

 

uggs in china

Dec 22, 2009

uggs in china
ugg 5815
uggs from chinaCheap North Face
Discount North Face Jacket

 

Work Boot

Dec 22, 2009

winter boot
Work Boot
caterpillar work boot
Caterpillar bootCheap North Face
Discount North Face Jacket

 

aris

Jan 14, 2010

great opinion, nice analisys. Thank you for sharing it



Aku Cuma Seorang Blogger Yang Cinta Seo | Mbah Gendeng

 

mytiffany

Jan 25, 2010

Colin Mathers tiffanys was the lead author of the study. tiffany co He is the W.H.O.'s coordinator for epidemiology tiffany rings and burden of disease tiffany jewellery. He says the research points to major differences around the world.

 


Post a comment


Email:
(This will not be displayed or shared. Privacy Policy)

Your Name:

Comment:




Local

Slideshow: Washington area snow photos

Here are some of the best snow photos in the DC area from the Associated Press, the Examiner' s own Andrew Harnik and courtesy photos from Kathleen Dellinger: Full story

Politics

Rep. John Murtha dies at 77

A spokesman says Democratic Rep. John Murtha of... Full story

Local

D.C. region braces for up to 20 more inches of snow

The National Weather Service has the entire D.C. metro area, from Prince William County north, under a winter storm warning for 10 to 20 inches of snow. Forecasters have had their eyes on this storm for days, but the projected snow totals were bumped up late Monday. Full story