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Millions of federal employees might be exempt from health benefits tax

By: Susan Ferrechio
Chief Congressional Correspondent
10/21/09 5:43 PM EDT

Democrats are looking for ways to exclude a bevy of big groups from their proposal to tax so-called Cadillac health insurance plans. So far the list of groups seeking exclusions include labor unions, firefighters, coal miners and other high risk occupations.

At this point, is there anyone else left to tax who has one of those big insurance policies?

Oh right. Federal employees.

Well, now some members of Congress want to carve out an exclusion for them as well.

Reps. Jerry Connolly and Jim Moran, two Democrats from the federal employee haven of Northern Virginia, sent a letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., expressing concern that the Senate health care proposal, which includes the tax, "may adversely affect health coverage for federal employees and retirees."

Connolly and Moran explain in the letter that the Congressional Research Services has provided them with data indicating that the cost of Federal Employees Health Benefits Plans used by federal employees is close to the threshold ($8,000 per individual and $21,000 per family) that would trigger the proposed 40 percent excise tax.

"Throughout this year, we and members of the Administration have assured the public, including 2 million federal employees, that if individuals or families like their current health coverage, they will not have to change," the letter said. "The current proposal from the Senate Finance Committee could undermine that tenet of health insurance reform."
 




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drjohn

Oct 22, 2009

"...the Senate health care proposal, which includes the tax, "may adversely affect health coverage for federal employees and retirees."


And idiot members of Congress?

 

Shanghaied

Oct 22, 2009

Why in the world would our rulers apply the laws they make to themselves? What would be the purpose of being a ruler if you were treated like everyone else? One of the statements from the Declaration of Independence accused the King of sending people to America to "eat out our substance". Today we have a home grown variety of scavengers. The question is what to do about it when voting doesn't seem to work.

 

Louie

Oct 22, 2009

They will not exclude my employees, but they will their own unionized bureaucrats.

 

VegasGuy

Oct 22, 2009

"So far the list of groups seeking exclusions include labor unions, firefighters, coal miners and other high risk occupations."

ALL of those listed are unions, as of course are the vast majority of federal (and state) employees. This is Democrats pandering, again, to their union voter base. What a surprise.

 

dan

Oct 22, 2009

MR PRESIDENT, I DARE YOU SIR TO THINK YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH THIS CRAP, YOUR ARROGANCE TO THINK US NORMAL AMERICANS SHOULD HAVE A HIGH TAX, AND FEDERAL EMPLOYEES NOT, IT IS TIME US AMERICANS TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK, WE AMERICANS HAVE THE LEGAL RIGHT TO REMOVE YOU FROM OFFICE, IN THE CONSTITUTION IT SAYS IF THE PRESIDENT STARTS TO TRY AND IGNORE THIS DOCUMENT HE CAN BE REMOVED. MR PRESIDENT WE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ASK YOU TO RESIGN THE PRESIDENCY AS YOU ARE UNFIT FOR OFFICE. PELOSI, REID, SCHUMER, SHOULD BE ARRESTED FOR STEALING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, GOD HELP OUR COUNTRY, 2010, AND 2012, WILL SEE ALL DEMOCRATS LOSE THEIR OFFICE, INCLUDING WHINY OBAMA

 

depaz

Oct 22, 2009

And let's not forget Harry Reid's home state of Nevada. . . . .

 

buggin77

Oct 22, 2009

Are you people kidding!?! As a poorly paid federal employee I would like to point out that if my health insurance is taxed that cost will slide right down to me, just like you I can't afford that. 40% tax is too much of a burden for anyone to bear. The abuse handed out and groveling you have to do are worth every penny and even more than we make. And the genius call for the president's resignation on a news forun, get a life, if you don't want him in office offer a better alternative, don't just peck out your disgruntlement hiding behind a computer.

 

NailCreek

Oct 22, 2009

This is full blooded case of revenge against the conservative side of the aisle and the federal employees & retirees. We best be watchful of our pensions and other benefits as well.

 

gretchen

Oct 22, 2009

Why in the world do government employees have better plans than those taxpayers who are footing the bill?
That GM bailout GAVE the UAW half a billion off the top of any profits (9% bonds) so they can retire at 50 with full coverage. Let those suckers work until they qualify for Medicare like the rest of America...

 

GetReal

Oct 22, 2009

When will you morons figure out that Federal employees ARE taxpayers?! Enough with the infantile us vs them thinking! Feds pay taxes just like everone else. Sheesh!

 

seastar

Oct 22, 2009

No one should be exempt. If you tax one group, you must tax them all. People, wake up. This Congress is dismantling our country right before our eyes. Vote them out!

 

steve

Oct 22, 2009

I am a Fed making less than $55,000 a year. There are others out there making a whole heck of a lot more than that. I disagree that Federal employees are overpaid. Our health insurance goes up astronomically every year and our pay does not. We pay for those increases out of our own pocket. A 40% tax on our health insurance is absolutely insane and whoever came up with that idiot idea should be.... well, I'll keep my mouth shut on that one. We also pay income tax and other taxes just like the rest of you people who gripe about Federal employees. I am sick and tired of people slamming Federal employees and saying that we have it to good. Yes, I agree we have some good benefits, but that is just the way it is. If you don't like it than get a job with the Federal Government so you can have those benefits also. Stop complaining because you are jealous that we have something you don't and it makes you mad!!!!!!!!!!

 

joe a

Oct 22, 2009

and just how many jobs has the gov't lost as compared to non gov't jobs? why all the gov't in our lives? we all can't work for the gov't. somebody has to make the chairs you all need for the important gov't job of pushing paper.........

 

Retired Fed

Oct 23, 2009

Right on all you active and retired Feds! Bravo! I wonder if these liberals understand that when anything goes on in the Federal government "we" are the first to get hit and hit hard!
Personally, I don't think this 40% tax deal will go through. If it did, Congress critters would be slitting their own throats and those millions upon millions of active and retired feds.

Joe A, The reason there are so many jobs or a trend to make the government bigger is because THIS Administration wanted it so. Who in the heck do you think has to WORK in order to expend the porkulus? And I have news for you the chairs you refer to are BOUGHT by the federal government. Do you have any clue that the federal government purchases EVERYTHING from pencils on up? I know, I used to work in Vendor Pay and you can thank the techs that sit in those chairs to make YOUR payments!

 

cjofva

Oct 23, 2009

I retired after 33 years of civil service with my pension and my health insurance. I do not get any S.S. benefits, medicare (which I paid into) at 65 just like everyone else. My health insurance premiums have gone up every year and certainly do not understand why people like me would have to bear a 40% tax on our health insurance.

 

len

Oct 23, 2009

Sounds like all the private interest groups who fund the Democratic Party will get a break and the rest of us will be hosed. Since Obamacare is based on the idea of hosing the 75% of Americans who have insurance to benefit the 25% who don't we shouldn't really be surprised. I voted for Obama to punish the Republicans for 8 years of corruption, immorality, and deficit spending. I will vote against the Democrats during the mid term elections for the exact same reason.

When shall our Republic die?

 

ennovi

Oct 23, 2009

To all the government employees this is not about YOU! This is about having two tiers of taxation in the country and just like it applied to education and other rights, we MUST have equality. If I pay taxes on my insurance because it includes one more visit than the one somebody else has then so should you. We are all equal under the law and just think what happens if you lose that government job? Again we all need to be treated equal and as far as I am concern unions and government workers do not qualify as people in "need" just because they belong to either group.

 

Kevin

Nov 2, 2009

What makes people think that current law does NOT already have a whole bunch of "groups" that get treated differently? The entire tax code is littered with exceptions for all sorts of things. federal employees like me work just as hard as their civil equivalents (I have worked both sides and have only been a federal employee for a year). Each job has a benefits package of some sort (even if it is very little). Get a job that has the benefits package that you need (sometimes easier said than done, I know).

 

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Radar52

Dec 23, 2009

As a Federal Retiree, I pay alot now and if this plan stays true, what it really means is that we will end up funding the insurance for the rest of the folks who don't or can't pay for their own. I word for a long time to get these benefits and pay dearly now for the benefit. I voted for Obama, but am now having second thoughts about that vote. If this passes with the tax, I will not vote for any Congress person or President who supports that tax. This smells of tax the rich and the not so rich and give to the poor. I do think that it would be nice if everyone could have insurance, but lets get real that is a pipe dream. So people will always be without no matter what the Government does.

 

Radar52

Dec 23, 2009

Seastar, I don't know if you read what you wrote, but I think taxing the poor who have no insurance, or money or job would kinda of defeat the purpose. I agree but then how do you tax someone who makes below poverty wage 40%. If you want it to be fair give everyone the same medical coverage as the President. Problem is that would bankrupt the country in less than a year, I wonder what an on call and on site doctor costs these days? I would have to add on to include the doctor I would get under that plan. Maybe that should be included in the plan...

 

Silv09

Dec 23, 2009

I like most federal employees do not take home a lot of money. We do have good benefits and that is a trade off we have made. We are no better off financially than most any other household in the medium income bracket. Tax us for the one major perk we get and you can probably push most of us down to the low income bracket.

 

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