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UPDATED: Obama bows again -- how will White House explain?

By: Byron York
Chief Political Correspondent
11/14/09 11:56 AM EST

Remember when Barack Obama bowed before the King of Saudi Arabia at the G-20 summit in London last April? Even though the bow was captured by still and video photographers, the White House denied that it had taken place. "It wasn't a bow," an unnamed White House official told the Politico's Ben Smith. "He grasped his hand with two hands, and he's taller than King Abdullah."

The controversy raged in the blogosphere, but most of the old press ignored the question -- especially after the National Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee injected a bit of partisanship when it said Obama had "paid fealty" to Abdullah with the bow. Obama's defenders, while not conceding that the president had bowed to the king, said George W. Bush had done the same thing earlier. The issue festered for a few days until a CNN reporter asked White House press secretary Robert Gibbs about it:

QUESTION: When the President met with King Abdullah, there was something that took place which I believe the White House explained was just the president being taller than the king. We took a look at the video, and it does appear that the president actually bowed to King Abdullah. Did he bow or didn't he?

GIBBS: No, I think he bent over with both, to shake -- with both hands to shake his hand, so I don't--

QUESTION: Did he bow or didn't he?

GIBBS: No.

So the official word was: Obama didn't bow. Now, we have a new photo of the president bowing to the emperor of Japan. It's the kind of image that just doesn't sit well with many Americans. The president, as the elected representative of the United States, should not be in the habit of bowing to foreign leaders, royal or not. Obama's deep, subservient bow makes it even worse; this was no little nod.

What will the White House explanation be? Emperor Akihito is certainly shorter than Obama, so perhaps the White House will roll out the old "he's taller than King Abdullah" story. Perhaps Gibbs will deny that it happened at all. Neither will fly. This is something the president should explain.

UPDATE: White House press secretary Robert Gibbs and some other senior administration officials held a press briefing a few hours ago in Singapore. No reporter asked about the bowing matter, and neither Gibbs nor the other officials mentioned it.

However, the Politico's Mike Allen says he received a "raft of email" about the bow, and so, on the urging of readers, asked a "senior administration official" about it. That official said the president "observes protocol," suggesting -- but not actually saying -- that the bow itself was part of protocol. The full response: "I think that those who try to politicize those things are just way, way, way off base. [Obama] observes protocol. But I don’t think anybody who was in Japan -- who saw his speech and the reaction to it, certainly those who witnessed his bilateral meetings there – would say anything other than that he enhanced both the position and the status of the U.S., relative to Japan. It was a good, positive visit at an important time, because there’s a lot going on in Japan."

There is, in fact, no protocol calling for an American president to bow to the emperor of Japan, or anyone else, for that matter.
 




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Mr_Illinois

Nov 14, 2009

Did Emperor Akihito return the bow? If so, it's a positive display of mutual respect. If not, it's a disturbing show of one-sided deference inappropriate for our President in the face of a foreign leader.

Please, please, PLEASE tell us that this time the foreign official our nation's leader bowed to returned the courtesy and respect. Bowing is a common gesture in the Japanese culture, and one the Emperor should have initiated or returned without hesitation.

So.... can someone please help clarify: did Emperor Akihito also bow? I sincerely hope he did.

 

syn

Nov 14, 2009

Barak Obama is a great leader of Ivy-Inbred's 57th State which upholds Harvard's Constitution and where lives NY Times/WAPO unnamed sources.

For the rest of us living in the United States of America, Barack Obama is a complete Ivy-Inbred disaster of epic proportion.

 

Kelli

Nov 14, 2009

This photo shocks me. Not because I believe our President would not deign himself to bow to a foreign leader, but because after the Saudi King "non-bow bow"I thought the President's handlers would avoid even the appearance of Obama genuflecting before a foreign leader. What makes this exponentially worse, in my mind, is that the lower one bows in Japanese culture the more deference one shows. I lived in Japan for about 9 months and in all my time there I never saw a grown man bow so deeply to another man as we see in the Obama-Akihito photo and I also never saw such an one-sided gesture (one party bowing deeply and the other not at all). Then again, I never saw anything but Japanese subjects bowing before the deity. In essence, then, this Obama bow before the Emporer is likened to a subject bowing before a god. Any way you try to spin that, it's not good for America's image abroad. I don't care how much Obama wants to "repair" our so-called tainted image.

 

Kelli

Nov 14, 2009

I should clarify my above post by saying that the only bows I ever saw to the Emperor were from his subjects. Since the Emperor is a futuredeity (he becomes a god when he dies), subjects bow to him in deferential manner. Unfortunately this photo of our president looks just like a subject bowing to his Emperor-god. Not good.

 

Bern7777777

Nov 14, 2009

Boy his shoes are shiny. I can see myself.

 

Gerald

Nov 14, 2009

He is the emperor of Japan and it is part of diplomatic etiquette to encounter him in such a way. No matter if you like it or not.

 

Bonnie

Nov 14, 2009



And Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright never visited the White House...

 

gneubeck

Nov 14, 2009

How long must we endure this disgrace posing as the U.S. President? Obama should wear his ceremonial Muslim tunic so he can lift his garment and curtsey. It's a certainty that he will prostrate himself before the Grand Ayatollah when he goes to Iran to surrender on behalf of America to Iran's nuclear weapons program. Greg Neubeck

 

flacracker

Nov 14, 2009

BS. My president bows to no one!

 

flacracker

Nov 14, 2009

Let me clarify. If he were my president he would bow to no one. The one we have, following a huge error by the US electorate, is one huge shame.

 

ladybug

Nov 14, 2009

What caught my eye with the bow to the King of Saudi Arabia was the bent knee, which I thought looked subservient. Emperor Hirohito is leaning forward; he is an elderly man, so he may not be able to bow.

When Obama and Michelle met the Queen of England, I don't remember a bow to her. Michelle seemed pretty casual in putting her hand on the Queen's back. It may not make sense to Michelle or her fans, but there is something called protocol, which means that you observe the customs of the locals. I wondered with all the people that Michelle has on her staff why someone hadn't briefed her on the protocol of greeting royals.

 

ogcone

Nov 14, 2009

Ask yourself whether the Queen of England would make a deep obeisance to the Emporer. Did MacArthur? A slight nod of the head, as given in return by the Emporer, would have been sufficient (mutual) respect, even for the Japanese. Obama needs a new head of protocol; he's sadly unsophisticated, while thinking he's so cool.

 

Guy Jones

Nov 14, 2009

I'm compiling a list of the things that Obama has demonstrated a knack for in the realm of foreign policy -- 1) Bowing before foreign leaders; 2) Apologizing repeatedly for American conduct; 3) Telegraphing indecision to troublemakers and indifference to the U.S.'s allies; 4) Giving speeches to foreign audiences.

 

ggordon

Nov 14, 2009

Gerald - you are just plain wrong. Subjects bow to royalty, and you may bow to your religious leader.
Obama is being a cutesy little twerp. He is trying to show we are all equals.
Next he will apologize for our offensive behavior in WWII.

 

Stuart Kruzan

Nov 14, 2009

"He is the emperor of Japan and it is part of diplomatic etiquette to encounter him in such a way. No matter if you like it or not."

BALONEY - NO PRIOR US PRESIDENT WHO MET WITH THE EMPEROR OF JAPAN OR THE KING OF SAUDI ARABIA EVER BOWED!!!

It is NOT diplomatic protocol. In fact it is contrary to the well-established policy of the US State department. Before Obama no US President ever bowed to the Emperor of Japan or other royalty. THAT is the well-settled protocol of the United States - until ObaMao.


 

ggordon

Nov 14, 2009

Frankly, Obama's behavior is gratuitous, and in the end condescending. They know he means no special respect.
People around the world are laughing at Obama - anyone with any sense sees right through it.
What a "leader"...

 

Erik

Nov 14, 2009

I live in Tokyo. Bowing happens constantly here - it's like breathing. This is a form of communication. People who are making this an issue are culturally ignorant and, I'd bet, have rarely if ever left the United States themselves.

 

R. Clarke Cooper

Nov 14, 2009

Ouch. The President is a self proclaimed Constitutional scholar, yet twice he has bowed before a foreign head of state. One would think President Obama would be acutely aware of this breech of American protocol. Perhaps the President needs to re-read the Emoluments Clause of the U.S. Constitution or at least instruct his White House staff to understand the clause. No experienced chief of protocol would ever recommend bowing by the President or any American official regardless of their rank. What may seem as a simple faux pas could easily morph into a less than subtle message of subordination or subjugation. No President comes into office knowing every nuance of diplomacy and foreign engagement, but their staff need know it from day one. Looks like additional house keeping may need to be done within the Executive Office of the President.

 

JOE STRAHL

Nov 14, 2009

He is a disgrace as a president. We fought a war so we could be free and NOT have to bow down to royalty EVER again. NEVER!
Even in the Olympics when they march past, the America flag is never dipped or lowered when passing "royalty" or any head of state. NEVER! We are Americans. Respect yes. Bow down never! A warrior never bows his head to anyone and never expects anyone to bow down to them. This guy makes me sick to my stomach just to see everyday the sorry way he has conducted himself.

 

Rich

Nov 14, 2009

As a note to Mr_Illinois, I have seen the video, and the emperor did not return the bow, as it was not a 'greeting' type of bow. A few moments later, Obama exchanged several 'greeting' type shallow bows with the emperor and his wife.

 

Kevin

Nov 14, 2009

In America, bowing is a sign of respect. This is just another example of why Obama is a somewhat smart president when it comes to foreign policy.

 

Dave

Nov 14, 2009

To Erik: "Bowing happens constantly here- it's like breathing...." So did the Emperor return the bow to Obama? No he did not. The Emperor does not return a bow as it is a sign of subservience before another leader. Erik, I'd bet most people posting here have left the US. They are aware of protocol among heads of state---- you are not.

 

Rich

Nov 14, 2009

To Erik - you are the culturally ignorant one if you do not understand the many types of bows in Japan. A shallow bow is for greeting, or 'sorry I bumped into you'. The head is kept raised. A deep bow with the eyes to the ground is only to show subservience or as a deep apology. Permission is supposed to be obtained to rise from this type of bow. I have no problem with the 'greeting' common bows Obama exchanged with the wife after.

 

Ted

Nov 14, 2009

News flash, geniuses: in Japan you bow to EVERYONE. It is greeting and show of respect that is used in place of the handshake.

(Not that I should expect a far-right "political correspondent" from the Washington Examiner to bother researching customs in other countries....)

 

flacracker

Nov 14, 2009

I still say "BS." American presidents bow to no one.

 

Paul Robertson

Nov 14, 2009

Seriously - this would not even be remarked upon in most other democracies - it is simply polite in Japan to bow on meeting someone. And where is it unreasonable for anyone to show deference to another - grow up Americans!

 

Robert Chandler

Nov 14, 2009

It is unseemly beyond words for an America president to bow to any king or emperor. Entirely outside our traditions.

This is why many have felt there is something alien about Barack Obama. He clearly does not understand in his bones what it means to be an American.

I am disgusted by these pathetic displays before royalty.

 

Jay

Nov 14, 2009

http://bit.ly/12GFUB

 

Jay

Nov 14, 2009

A good read on the art of the Japanese bow ... and how Obama screwed it up http://bit.ly/12GFUB

 

Patricia

Nov 14, 2009

Byron; I love you but please understand. This is not a bow, it's a CURTSIE!

 

tigger

Nov 14, 2009

Local customs mean nothing here. There is a long history of precedent here about POTUS and foreign heads of state. US Presidents do NOT bow to foreign royalty or leaders. Never have. I can't help but contrast this picture of Obama prostrating himself in front of Akihito with the picture of MacArthur next to Hirohito at the end of WWII.

But I'm sure MacArthur was a knuckle dragging troglodyte according to the people defending this asinine display.

 

ChrisMeihass

Nov 14, 2009

Our GIC "Groveler in Chief", bowing and scraping, pathetic really....the guy is totally in over his head. A Real LOSER for America. No Doubt.

 

Anna

Nov 14, 2009

2012 can not come fast enough.

 

jfhdsiu

Nov 14, 2009

For the leader of one NATION to BOW to a 'figurehead' of another nation, shows subservience to that 'figurehead', reducing the, (so called), 'leader' doing the bowing, to the status of "the 'FOOL', (or, JESTER, if you will), to the figurehead"!!!!!!!! Who doesn't believe that?

 

Paul in Ohio

Nov 14, 2009

At least Japan is a real ally, the Saudis are sh*t.

 

HELLO . . . .

Nov 14, 2009

In Japanese culture you bow OR shake but NEVER BOTH AT THE SAME TIME. NEVER!!!

The Gerbil has HUMILIATED us in front of all Japanese culture.

 

HTS

Nov 14, 2009

Obama is a pantywaist

 

Doctorb

Nov 14, 2009

Stuart is right -- the correct protocol when meeting with Saudi royalty is to kiss them on the mouth and then stroll around holding hands.

Ggordon is right, too -- it's fine for someone to bow to *his own* religious leader, which is why it was fine for Bush, a staunch Roman Catholic, to bow to Pope Benedict XVI (kissing him on the mouth would not be appropriate).
(and ggordon, if you are who I think you are, that "ham hocks" comment was the funniest thing since you held your hand over a candle)

With other foreign leaders, it's generally best to be familiar and relaxed. A nice shoulder-kneading is almost always welcome.

 

Cynthia

Nov 14, 2009

Yep! There goes the Presidential Posterior up in the air again.

The Emperor does not return the bow. What i've read about Japanese protocol/custom, at the very least one does not shake hands while bowing.
Then, the greeting is a slight upper body tilt.
At any rate, I don't think that the Emperor ever bows to anyone else, because he is not an equal to anyone else, but superior. BHO is clearly subordinating himself. silly, silly, silly.

 

Obama Sells Out the U.S. Again

Nov 14, 2009

What a complete travesty. This goon isn't returning any nod from Akihito. This 100% is a jack-hole pissing on the U.S. flag. This certainly is change.

 

Nov 14, 2009

Ha.. Bush has done this numerous times but it was washed over in a few days or not even published.

What makes Obama different from bush?

Why is the media covering this?

Why does this sound negative to start off with?

America proves that you can rise to the top but when you get there were gunna make you look like a fool. Obama your an idiot for even trying to think America was ready...

 

loulou

Nov 14, 2009

Why is the idiot Obama bowing AND shaking the Emperor's hand?

 

jerryl

Nov 14, 2009

come on he was only trying to point out too the man that his show was untied

 

daniel

Nov 14, 2009

well at least he didn't ask for permission to rise!
or did he?
But cheer up!
by this time he is only humiliating himself and not his country.

 

Enoxo

Nov 14, 2009

Emperor Akihito did not return the bow.

See video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kyD_e0Y7FQ

 

Kelli

Nov 14, 2009

"Gerald

He is the emperor of Japan and it is part of diplomatic etiquette to encounter him in such a way. No matter if you like it or not."

No, this is not so. Please se my comments above and also those of Rich. There are different types of bows. A head of state is never called on to bow deeply.

Kelli

PS Please check out the LA Times story on this. They give the history of American leaders and bowing. They rightly state that never in our history has a head of state bowed in such a way, before Obama, that is.

 

Ohiolad

Nov 14, 2009

Don't we pay big bucks to the people in charge of protocol in the White House or State Department to make sure things like this don't happen? Or are they just being ignored?

 

NickInVirginia

Nov 14, 2009

Everyone who thinks this bow was just proper etiquette should read Thomas Lifson's article at the American Thinker, then come back here and apologize to the rest of us because you were "acting stupidly" by running your mouth without knowing all the facts.

You know, like 0bama does all the time.

 

Paul

Nov 14, 2009

How can someone born in Hawaii (where the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor) not understand the disgrace in such a display?

...Oh, that's right! Obama wasn't born in America. Never mind.

 

Lowell Oliver

Nov 14, 2009

To: Ohiolad, loulou, Obama Sells Out, HTS,Chris Meihess, et al: Get over it. So the President bowed. Maybe it's time that low life American scum bags wake up to the fact that we are no longer superior to everyone else in this world.

 

earnie

Nov 14, 2009

I wish he's bow in my presence. I'd kick him in the backside hard enough to send him to Mars.

 

The Chief

Nov 14, 2009

What he by his actions, and his administration by their deeds is they were no elected to represent the entire United States. Lets call this what it is. He is still amazed that he won, and he "PERSONALLY" is totally amazed that he is standing in front of an emporer.

The next time someone has the bright idea to electa Community Organizer, please roll out these two photos...

He's never had a real job, and would look more fitting in a Fast Food smock...

Loser, 2nd class citizen, You're not my president and I will die before I bow to you, you effortless pile of human waste. Go back to the hole you crawled out of before you cause more damage the GWB could've ver hoped to have done...

Will a real leader please emerge??!! either party, I don't care, just emerge...

 

The Chief

Nov 14, 2009

Lowell,

Don't be petty. go et your smock, your shift starts in 20 minutes, man the fry machine.

 

Mike

Nov 14, 2009

Listen here all of you oh so certain because your a liberal you must have a superior level of intellect and it would appear international decorum....statistics would show you more of us are in those swanky white collar positions that put us on foreign soil. A bow is not a bow. Some that are less impressed with them selves have already explained the differences....Kelli, Kevin, Teddy and Gerald. You'd probably wrap a gift for a Japanese person in white too. Maybe you should do some research or ask your college prof that isn't up Obama's behind what's what with the bow thing.

 

sandmansa

Nov 15, 2009

How many making negative comments have traveled to the Middle and Far East? I have lived there for the past 12 years. Shaking hand, bowing, and in some place cheek kissing, is the norm. It is the respectful way of greeting. Not to do so shows disrespect. I’m glad my President is conscious of and follows local customs. I hope that it help sets the grounds for friendly and fruitful discussion between leaders of our countries.

 

Jim

Nov 15, 2009

Hey sandmansa
Riddle me this Batman. If its no big deal to bow to foreign royalty or leaders, then why did the white house deny it the last time?
“What makes BHO different from Bush?” RESPECT for his own country!

 

Abuben

Nov 15, 2009

I have to say that the president made a mistake, but we should not take this too seriously. America has not lost its status or dignity because of Obama's gesture.

 

Bow Wow

Nov 15, 2009

Holy Crap! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQORnYPqU3A

 

Dennis Kolb Sr.

Nov 15, 2009

Wholly Crap BatMan;Our Muslim President is a Closet Buddhist...

 

Just became Anti-Obama

Nov 15, 2009

Obama seems do not know the culture and character of Japanese. Japanese despise the people who respect them and become more arrogant. Obama showed how ignorant he is about Japanese.

 

Ignorant Obama

Nov 15, 2009

Obama might be smart but he showed how he has no dignity. His mind is subordinated and easy to be intimidated.

 

BornFree

Nov 15, 2009

See other world leaders greet the emperor without bowing: http://hotairpundit.blogspot.com/2009/11/president-obama-vs-rest-of-world.html

 

Lander

Nov 15, 2009

Someone should teach Mr Obama that before any foreign head of state he represents America, not himself. He hurts Americans when doing this.

 

Jon Dough

Nov 15, 2009

He was going in for the butt kiss and realized yhe Emperor was facing the wrong direction and decieded not to waste the effort and did a crutch check instead.

 

Baghdad Bob

Nov 15, 2009

Response to GERALD...! You are a fool if you beleive that this BOW is part of foreign dignitary etiquite. This is the leader of the only country who attacked our military unproked, read about Pearl Harbor, turn off MTV and the REALITY shows, this is reality and it is disgusting to say the least.

 

JeffD

Nov 15, 2009

THIS JUST IN!!!!!

Obama lands part time job as men's room attendant at 21.

THIS HAS BEEN A SPECIAL NEWS BULLETIN.

 

aahzy

Nov 15, 2009

Those who say it was OK for Obama to debase himself before the world and insulting, "We, The People" of the United States, by bowing to the Emperor, are flaunting their ignorance as well as their diminutive levels of intelligence. Any American with any pride in being American IS LIVID WITH RAGE OVER THIS LOW CLASS ACT BY A LOW CLASS PRETENDER. This "bow" to the Emperor of Japan was a slap in the face to every American who died in 'World War Two', and to the family members, (both surviving and deceased), who suffered their loss. It's tantamount to GROVELING before the office that caused the death of thousands upon thousands of American soldiers! A DISGUSTING display of abject subjugation and subservience to a foreign power!

 

Me&Ben

Nov 15, 2009

What do expect coming from the First President of The Pacific Rim.

 

Bankroller

Nov 15, 2009

Kenyans bow to everybody.

 

Mr. Big

Nov 15, 2009

He's just apologizing for Pearl Harbor and the Bataan Death March.

 

Dr. Duquesne

Nov 15, 2009

I console myself and reconcile this usurper's actions by telling myself that he is only presenting himself as WHO and WHAT he is to the whole world. A CLASSLESS, IGNORANT and SELF DEFACING lout! He doesn't act or speak for me. And I doubt he acts and speaks for the huge majority of Americans. Does he?

 

Mule

Nov 15, 2009

I saw this same bow in an old movie. Can't remember the name of the movie but in the movie a laborer on one of the pyramids was bowing like this to his Egyptian master and saying how happy he was to do what he was told.

 

donll

Nov 15, 2009

He probably thinks Barney Frank is coming up behind him.

 

syn

Nov 15, 2009

When surrounded by so many fools for Hollywood idiocy, it's not Obama's fault he doesn't know much about the world:

ANITA DUNN: You know, it's - I recommend everybody, if you get a chance to go on YouTube, Jon Stewart actually did one of the most amazing pieces of journalism last week or a couple of weeks ago in which he actually looked at the way FOX, on their opinion shows, raises some, you know, some - some issue that then gets reported on by their news division as, quote, "a controversy," and then they go find someone to comment."

America will find enlightenment when Jon Stewart's audience stops feeding from Jon Stewart's bowel movements.

 

Anitas_Done

Nov 15, 2009

Pardon my ignorance, but doesn't the depth of the bow communicate much about status in Japanese culture? If that's true, then this picture tells me our president is ready to kiss the emperor's behind. Next thing you know, he'll be apologizing for starting WWII...

 

SKEPTICAL

Nov 15, 2009

"Anitas_Done

Nov 15, 2009

Pardon my ignorance, but doesn't the depth of the bow communicate much about status in Japanese culture? If that's true, then this picture tells me our president is ready to kiss the emperor's behind. Next thing you know, he'll be apologizing for starting WWII..."

If the "Ichi, the blind swordsman" movies from Japan are to be believed a bow such as this is of a slave bowing to
his master. I don't know, but it sure LOOKS like it don't it?

 

you're all idiots

Nov 15, 2009

For God's sake, Byron, if this your idea of journalism, why don't you get a real job that contributes something to society? "OMG TEH PREZIDENT IS BEING RESPECTFUL TO FOREIGN LEADERS! I have no idea how this is going to change anything at all, but I'm still going to imply some insidious (non-existent) consequences because I make money by playing on the stupidity of my readers!"

 

touchy

Nov 15, 2009

I'm touchy and my feelings are really, really hurt really, really bad and I'm really, really going to rant and rave and make my feelings known and I'm going to make them known really, really......??????????.......What was I talking about again?

 

aahzy

Nov 15, 2009

"touchy

11:11 AM, 11/15/2009

I'm touchy and my feelings are really, really hurt really, really bad and I'm really, really going to rant and rave and make my feelings known and I'm going to make them known really, really......??????????.......What was I talking about again?"

We can only assume that you were talking about "teh prezident", I mean "the president" bowing in deference to the Emperor of Japan!

 

RedEye

Nov 15, 2009

Another one!
Bow! Wow! Bowwow! Bowwow! All yelp and no canines!

 

jfhdsiu

Nov 15, 2009

Obama bowing to the Emperor of Japan was a blatant act of obeisance!

Merriam-Webster's online dictionary defines "obeisance" thus;

"Main Entry: obei·sance
Pronunciation: \ō-ˈbē-sən(t)s, ə-, -ˈbā-\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English obeisaunce obedience, obeisance, from Anglo-French obeisance, from obeissant, present participle of obeir to obey
Date: 14th century

1 : a movement of the body made in token of respect or submission : bow
2 : acknowledgment of another's superiority or importance : homage "

'respect or submission' depends on the context. In this instance it was obviously a bow of submission as attested to by the 90 degree angle of the bow. FULL SUBMISSION!

Who doesn't believe that?

 

Winston

Nov 15, 2009

What about the little Chairman Mao outfit BHO was been sporting in China yesterday. He was all over TV dressed in local garb and not one Fox News commentator mentioned it. Calvin Coolidge donning an Indian war bonnet was ok, the Chairman Mao is just more bending over and grabbing the ankles. That is BHOs foreign policy stance by the way.

 

Michelle

Nov 15, 2009

Wow, for all those who are acting like those of us that are upset at this protocol nightmare have never even heard of the Japanese bowing as a traditional form of greeting, you are the ones ignorant and have been watching too many movies.

First of all, IF he was going to show reverence and go outside the norm of EVERY WORLD LEADER to bow to the Emperor, he should have at least bothered picking up a lesson or two in the correct way to bow. First rule is not to combine handshake with bow. FAIL Second is to maintain eye contact, not look at the floor (most especially while touching the Emperor). FAIL Third, the deep 90 degree bow is reserved for the lowest in the classes to the most superior in classes. Obama just made himself on par with the cleaning lady. FAIL

So how about not just hearing "Obama bowed to Japanese Emperor" and thinking "Wow, that Obama is so WORLDLY!" and understand exactly how your President screwed this up.

 

Michelle

Nov 15, 2009

"I live in Tokyo. Bowing happens constantly here - it's like breathing. This is a form of communication. People who are making this an issue are culturally ignorant and, I'd bet, have rarely if ever left the United States themselves."

So there are world leaders strolling the streets of Tokyo bowing to each other left and right? Or is the citizens of Japan who would most especially be expected to bow to the Emperor?

 

markit8dude

Nov 15, 2009

Subservience is 'protocol'?

Like other posters have said, the bow is a cultural form of respect. Though I've not read any updates if the 'respectful' bow was reciprocated.

Not to mention a bow is used BEFORE a handshake. Not during. Erik and other posters.. whether you live or visit Japan, you know this to be the case. Your spin is flat out fiction..

 

Dr. Duquesne

Nov 15, 2009

"Winston

Nov 15, 2009

What about the little Chairman Mao outfit BHO was been sporting in China yesterday. He was all over TV dressed in local garb and not one Fox News commentator mentioned it. Calvin Coolidge donning an Indian war bonnet was ok, the Chairman Mao is just more bending over and grabbing the ankles. That is BHOs foreign policy stance by the way."

HE DID "WHAT"? Are you serious? (Of course he did, but just acknowledging it isn't as dramatic as saying "HE DID WHAT?"). This un-American miscreant needs to resign, (at best), or be forcibly removed, (impeached for treason), at worst! Either way he has to go!

 

The Wizard

Nov 15, 2009

The only Americans to bow before the Japanese Emperor were American POW's that either bowed or were serverely beaten. Thanks, Obama, once again you denigrate everything great and honorable about this country. Why do you hate us so much?

 

aahzy

Nov 15, 2009

"The Wizard

Nov 15, 2009

The only Americans to bow before the Japanese Emperor were American POW's that either bowed or were serverely beaten. Thanks, Obama, once again you denigrate everything great and honorable about this country. Why do you hate us so much?"

Wellll! He's half white and half black and each side of him "must" hate the other side, (reference his racial divisiveness). That's the only explanation that seems to make any sense as to why he hates us, (Americans)! There's no doubt as to why we, (Americans), have come to hate him! Demeaning stunts like this, (kow towing to everybody ELSE in the world)!

 

RedEye

Nov 15, 2009

BO: the Audacity of a Dope
"Gee, I went to see this guy called the Japanese Emperor, you know, and he was like, a cool dude. So I bowed like they do, and, like, I thought it would be soooo cool to bow as deep as I could. Bet I showed THEM what I can do. Hey, can I get a cigarette around here?"

 

srcdc

Nov 16, 2009

Obama bowed now and will apologize for the two atomic bombs.

 

Nov 16, 2009

A greeting in Japenese culture is by way of a slight bow, always maintaining eye contact. My father-in-law, a South Pacific beach assualt Marine (Okinawa, Little Gloucester, Pelalu)rolled over in his grave when Obama bowed before the Japanese leader. But then,the O man is just way too cool for words and he was gonna jam with the J man.

 

Robert P

Nov 16, 2009

Now I know what it feels to be a Venezuelan! I have never been so embarrased to be an American, on the contrary, but until this MORON leaves office I will keep my nationality to myself when travelling. Incredible show of IGNORANCE.

 

Shannon M

Nov 16, 2009


ACTUALLY - Obama was NOT "following protocol". The President of the U.S. does NOT bow to the Emperor. FURTHER, it is an INSULT in Japan to SHAKE HANDS WHILE BOWING. You _never_ touch while bowing. So - not only was it NOT protocol -- he couldn't even get the bow correct had it been appropriate.

The grin on the Emperor's face is customary in Japan when someone has committed a faux-pas. The Emperor is expressing his own EMBARRASSMENT.

 

Mad Monica

Nov 16, 2009

No. Akihito did NOT bow. As a matter of fact, the press in Japan is so embarrassed at Obama's blunder some are not running this photo for fear it shows him weak. The rules are, you either bow OR shake hands. Both shows subservience.

 

Mad Monica

Nov 16, 2009

I think he's just preparing to lick the boots of China's leaders. It's the only way he can appease them now that both he and Hillary have said they have free rein. Obama said China's communism would not be thwarted and that a prosperous China was good.

 

Mad Monica

Nov 16, 2009

You gotta feel real sorry for those dissidents in Chinese prisons hoping for words of strength and support from the American president. After all, isn't the left the party of human rights? Oh yeah, only folks gettin' fair trials are terrorists. Forgot.

 

yankees

Nov 16, 2009

He sure does alot of bending over?????

 

jc

Nov 16, 2009

Just another example of a President and top advisory staff being completly over their heads.. ,, amature hour at the White House... When you have the likes of Jarrett, Axelrod and Emanual advising the President... what else can we expect.... The only thing thwey are good at is scaming the people and making lots of GREEN.  $$$$

 

AmericaFirst

Nov 16, 2009

Scott Johnson ffrom PowerLine has a great article on this titled, "Why is this man bowing? In it, he says Obama is "ashamed of his country but arrogant about himself,what a disgusting combination". No truer words have been spoken.

 

Dr, Duquesne

Nov 16, 2009

How much embarrassment can the Democrat party take before they've had enough and tell this unsophisticated backwoods buffoon to resign? Of course that is assuming that the Democrat party members who are in charge aren't unsophisticated backwoods buffoons themselves! Say.....That's not Jethro 'the' Bodene in disguise in that picture is it?

 

Nov 16, 2009

Dear "DoctorB" -- I just read your post where you describve Bush as "a staunch Roman Catholic"!!! Are you from the MOON? Bush is more Muslim than he is Roman Catholic.

 

torrin123

Nov 16, 2009

Wow... a huge lengthy flamewar on a bow to another political leader.

As much as I disagree with Obama's politics, some of you guys are right out pathetic. Either he doesn't show enough respect diplomatically or he shows too much. Look, it's one thing to disagree with a man, its another to demonize him. That's not what I want to be associated with.

I'll vote my own way because I understand what works and what fails; but as far as associations, I will never become like some of you sicophants. You guys make me sick.

BTW- for a cultural lesson - the Japanese do bow as exchanges socially and a bow to the Emperor is usually more reverent than to a drinking buddy. Obama greeted the man diplomatically, which (under the constitution) is what the president is supposed to do. Making him just like any other president in our history.

 

Bad-Dog

Nov 16, 2009

Yea but we no president of this great nation has ever been Mussulman faith, now this is a prelude to what is going to take place, either get use to it, and remember all faiths will have to bow to them, or die.

IMPEACH THE MAN, HE IS NOT A MAN YOU WANT, READ THE BIBLE, FALSE PROFITS:

BEWARE OF THE WRATH OF GOD ON THIS NATION FOR WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE DOING AND WHAT THE PEOPLE OF THIS NATION ARE ALLOWING THEM TO DO THIS NATION.

GBTS

 

Harpo

Nov 16, 2009

Bad-Dog, you display the same ignorance and bad spelling that most people on here do that think bowing to a foreign leader is an act of subservience. The elders of Japan took Obama's bow as a sign of respect and it greatly enhances Obama's standing with that country. He showed that he is a respectful person of others, which the terrorist president bush did not, he respected only himself, and disrespected the People of the United States.

 

jfhdsiu

Nov 16, 2009

It's a shame that some people have to have the significance and ramifications of the supposed leader of the free world paying obeisance to the titular head of a foreign power. Doing so reduces the one doing the bowing to the titular head of a foreign power to a status "LESS" than the titular head they bow to. Thereby reducing the status and importance of the country the one doing the bowing is head of, corresponingly.

 

jfhdsiu

Nov 16, 2009

typo........ 'Corresponingly' should read 'correspondingly' in my last post'. Who doesn't believe that?

 

jfhdsiu

Nov 16, 2009

Also add, 'explained to them', at the end of the sentence, "It's a shame that some people have to have the significance and ramifications of the supposed leader of the free world paying obeisance to the titular head of a foreign power", to my post before last. Grandchildren arriving home from school are a disruptive lot. Who doesn't believe that?

 

Jim Treacher

Nov 16, 2009

"News flash, geniuses: in Japan you bow to EVERYONE. It is greeting and show of respect that is used in place of the handshake."

News flash, genius: They're shaking hands, and only one of them is bowing.

 

Dr. Duquesne

Nov 16, 2009

"Harpo

Nov 16, 2009

Bad-Dog, you display the same ignorance and bad spelling that most people on here do that think bowing to a foreign leader is an act of subservience. The elders of Japan took Obama's bow as a sign of respect and it greatly enhances Obama's standing with that country. He showed that he is a respectful person of others, which the terrorist president bush did not, he respected only himself, and disrespected the People of the United States."

I wonder if you've read the news articles of the Japanese being terribly embarrassed by Obama's groveling display of subservience? The Emperor himself is said to have been embarrassed by it! I take it from your post that you have not. I also take it that you 'assumed' that the elders of Japan, (whoever they are), took Obama's bow as a sign of respect. If what you say is true, be so kind as to post a link to the article so that we can be properly remorseful! I've not seen them. We await your enlightening reply.

 

Dr. Duquesne

Nov 16, 2009

"The elders of Japan took Obama's bow as a sign of respect and it greatly enhances Obama's standing with that country."?

I'd like to read the article that reflected this statement. Be so good as to post a link for the rest of us who have not seen it.

 

Nov 16, 2009

When are we going to get rid of this creep and all of his staff(congress senate)

 

John Adams

Nov 16, 2009

He has no pride in America. For that matter no proof he is an US Citizen. Usurper. He is a disgrace to the country. Rest assured that the majority of true Americans know well that he is not really our president.

He is behaving like a slave to the rest of the world. A disgrace to black people more so than America. We have all worked so hard to rid the subservient race behavior and he brings it back in spades.

 

amp

Nov 16, 2009

I dont think this is a big deal he was just being polite. It doesn't mean he's being subservient. It takes a real man to do what he feels is right then to do what others want him to do.

 

aahzy

Nov 16, 2009

"amp

Nov 16, 2009

I dont think this is a big deal he was just being polite. It doesn't mean he's being subservient. It takes a real man to do what he feels is right then to do what others want him to do."

If it was just him I would agree with you. BUT IT'S NOT JUST HIM! It's the ENTIRE NATION, (The United States of America), that he supposedly represents that his bow denigrates. And 'yes' it does mean he's being subservient! A 'real' man would have simply shook hands and let it go at that.

 

dsmith

Nov 16, 2009

I imagine when the Olympics roll around Mr. Obama will be sure that our flag be lowered as our team marches past the head of state...something that has never happened before. Sad...very, very sad.

 

beatrice

Nov 16, 2009

Like everything else Obama does - he was just winging it. He didn't think about it ahead of time and didn't know what the proper thing to do was. So this is just another example at how inept he is. Gibbs will just give some political mumbo jumbo answer about it which will contain a lot of "aaas & umms"

 

Profoundmen

Nov 16, 2009

The USA doesn't bow to other countries, atleast, we never did before.Liberals believe they need to apoligize to everyone, for everything, except for the things they do. I sure he believes Japan was a victim of the USA.Being from Hawaii, he should have heard of Pearl Harbor.It's not a line of jewelery.

 

kingoftheslidez

Nov 16, 2009

False profits? Really?

 

aaahzy@yahoo.com

Nov 16, 2009

I wonder if Obama has enough awareness to realize that he is the laughingstock of the whole WORLD? Bowing like a common peasant!!!!

 

aahzy

Nov 16, 2009

Nice user name. I'm rather flattered..........I think! I agree with you though, for sure.

 

aaahzy

Nov 16, 2009

So you're the reason I couldn't get that user name. I've read some of your posts. I think we agree a great deal, somewhat! Obama continues to embarrass us throughout the world. Even after he is no longer POTUS, he will continue to embarrass us with faux pas such as this. As has Carter. As has Clinton. It won't end till the end I'm afraid! I didn't want anyone to think you had just added too many a's to your user name.

 

kingoftheslidez

Nov 16, 2009

oops they just showed file photos of Nixon bowing to Hirohito and Eisenhower bowing to some French leader,of course not that much was made of it because we like to criticize things THAT REALLY MATTER

 

RB

Nov 17, 2009

I am surprised at the lack of outrage on this faux pas from Obama. Bowing to the Japanese emperor whose father precided over WWII attacks is not just a mistake. It is an affront to the bravest men this country has ever seen.

For someone who claims to have been born in Hawaii, Obama sure seems to lack any understanding of US history of the Japanese attacks.

 

bowwow

Nov 17, 2009

Did you see that??? He just did it again! This time in communist China! OMG, the end is neigh!

 

jfhdsiu

Nov 17, 2009

"kingoftheslidez

Nov 16, 2009

oops they just showed file photos of Nixon bowing to Hirohito and Eisenhower bowing to some French leader,of course not that much was made of it because we like to criticize things THAT REALLY MATTER"

Who are "they"? I would like to see the pictures myself. (File photo's? Not photo shopped I hope). In the interest of un-refutable truth, do you have a link? That would put some people in their place, but it would only show that Obama isn't the ONLY goof to have been president. (what an understatement)! Just saying that they did won't convince anyone, since anyone can SAY it! (If you don't show proof, now, you won't ever be believed again). Who doesn't believe that?

 

K. Dunn

Nov 17, 2009

Obama's bows to foreign royalty violate the sacred American principle that all people created equal. Our nation was founded on this belief, and a Civil War was fought to establish it for all. Two World Wars and a long Cold War were
fought to preserve it. Does Obama fail to see the fatal contradiction between this fundamental American belief and bowing to foreign royals?

 

Wes

Nov 17, 2009

In Japanese society, the bow is a standard greeting. However, showing his deep lack of understanding of world culture,Obama bows more deeply than his peer. This is unacceptable and shows that he is on a lower social scale according to Japanese cultural norms. Both parties bow, the greater bows less than the lesser. To the Japanese, this man looks like a fool. Two world leaders, according to Japanese tradition would bow approximately the same. Gen. Marshall would be spinning in his grave.

 

Dr. Duquesne

Nov 17, 2009

In Japan people bow all the time to each other. The problem is.........Obama isn't Japanese. He's half African muslim and half white Semi-American. No Japanese in him at all by all accounts.

 

StepIntoTheLight

Nov 17, 2009

First the Saudi non-bow bow, and now this disturbing image to wrap my head around. Disgusting!

If he feels so humbled in front of real leadership, then he should take a cue from the Asian customs and announce to our country that he is resigning from his office for disgracing our nation(yet again). It's time for some REAL CHANGE in Washington.

 

George

Nov 17, 2009

http://lefarkins.blogspot.com/2009/11/dwight-d-eisenhower-bowing-hour.html

 

Dr. Duquesne

Nov 17, 2009

"http://lefarkins.blogspot.com/2009/11/dwight-d-eisenhower-bowing-hour.html"

Interesting! Ike was a gentleman and actually bowed in a gentlemanly way to a lady. A mutual cursory bow with what appears to be a Pope. Yes, it's a Pope. (I notice the Pope's bow is deeper, (?). Aww, there Ike goes leaning forward toward an Archbishop, while shaking his hand,(?). And here's one where Ike does appear to be inclining his head to Charles the French guy. Or??? Is he looking at Charle's proffered hand prior to shaking it? (Hmmm it could be construed as a nodding bow, in a stretch of imagination!). Not a bow of obeisance though, in the whole bunch. Maybe next time.

 

kingoftheslidez

Nov 17, 2009

Just as I figured,oh thats not a bow. Now go to picture of Nixon bowing to Hirohito and never doubt my word again.

 

Ruckus

Nov 17, 2009










 

kingoftheslidez

Nov 17, 2009

ruckus- thankyou for that I lack the ability to post in that manner- if you are ever in Redondo Beach look me up and I'll buy you lunch

 

jfhdsiu

Nov 17, 2009

"kingoftheslidez

Nov 17, 2009

Just as I figured,oh thats not a bow."

I have to agree. It's not a bow. One who desperately wanted it to be would argue that it IS a bow! The picture of Nixon, (while not a pleasant picture), only shows Nixon leaning forward, as is Hirohito. Who doesn't believe that?

 

Dr. Duquesne.

Nov 17, 2009

"kingoftheslidez

Nov 17, 2009

Just as I figured,oh thats not a bow. Now go to picture of Nixon bowing to Hirohito and never doubt my word again."

Sorry but no credit accrues to you. It was Ruckus who posted the pictures. And they don't prove YOUR point at all. They're iffy at best. Ruckus, thank you for posting these pictures. I wish they DID show Nixon actually bowing to that guy. I don't like politicians of any stripe and am always pleased to put one down "JUSTLY". But I won't do it without righteous justification. I would be no better than they are if I did.

 

tomo

Nov 18, 2009

As previously stated several US Presidents have bowed to foreign leaders. Nixon, Bush 1 and Reagan.
To make a federal case out of this shows the weakness of my party and the Far Right in full pickup truck mode. Tapping away on their computers in their double wides.
There are a number of serious problems to deal with for the Republicans, like who can lead the party (or who would want to at this time).

 

Mule

Nov 18, 2009

A bit dog DOES bark loudest! I guess a person has to drive a pickup truck and live in a double wide tapping away on their computers to KNOW about being in full pickup truck mode and tapping away at their computers in their double wides. The thought would never have occurred to me! I agree about the Republican party though. Sorry for you, (that the Republican party is YOUR party........You could leave it though)! It's not too late! But if you're a Republican you probably believe that there are only two political parties available to you and you can't stand the Democrat party even more than you don't like the Republican party! It's a tough world!

 

SKEPTICAL

Nov 18, 2009

DIMWITS will never understand WHY it's a disgrace for a president of the U.S. to scrape and bow like a peasant to a man who isn't even the "leader" of his country. Does anyone really think the Emperor of Japan has ANY political power? Way to go there, sticking your foot in your mouth by saying "my party" and then trashing members of "your" party, which you admit to being a member of! That means you are saying those unkind things about yourself, doesn't it? I guess you know you best! How's that double wide of yours holding up?

 

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