When Bush spoke to students, Democrats investigated, held hearings

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Sep 8, 2009

Obama is a political animal and a trained manipulator. This is a political event sponsored by taxpayers, whether they like it or not.

Stay home, Mr. President.

Sep 8, 2009

I wish the GAO would start investigating all things done by EVERYONE on capital Hill. Wonder what they'd find? More importantly, wonder what they'd DO about it. . . . .

Sep 8, 2009

Thank you for exposing these democrat hypocrites for what they are. That goes for the left wing media (most of them) too. I'm sure there won't be any calls for hearings after today's speech or any nasty news stories in the left wing WaPo. Those are reserved for Republicans only.

Sep 8, 2009

I remember in Jr High school going to the airport to hear President Johnson speak. Now we have all this dumb controversy. Its a sad sad day for the Republicans when it comes to this. By the way, we have you-tube. The kids like the President because they are not polluted. They will watch anyway. York is really a dumb-a..

Sep 8, 2009

Democrats were not the majority in Congress in 1991. That statement makes Byron York look like an idiot.
What are the requirements for a Chief Political Correspondent? Can they just make stuff up?

Sep 8, 2009

The President has every right to speak to the children of the country. Its a good opportunity [if taken advantage of] to have a smart discussion about politics and how our government in general works. Sadly I feel people who are attempting to boycott the speech show an indefendable overreaction and will be looked upon rather silly.

I'm not a fan of the President. I think he is making a lot of bad choices, however, to suggest the leader of our country cannot speak to the future of our country is just nonsense. If parents are that concerned with his speech, watch it with them. Ask schools if you can go and view it with your kids. Tivo it and wait until you all get home. There are many options available. Man up parents...take the challenge head on and discuss with your kids your concerns. Listen to them and see what they think. the words are only as harmful as you allow them to be.

Sep 8, 2009

I think in both cases it is un-presidential to give a self-serving, BS speech to young students.

But it's also not worth it to get our panties in a bunch over it.

Sep 8, 2009

Alanleroy wrote: “Democrats were not the majority in Congress in 1991. That statement makes Byron York look like an idiot.”

Yes, they were Alanroy. Guess what that makes you?

Sep 8, 2009

alanleroy wrote "Democrats were not the majority in Congress in 1991"

They absolutely were the majority in 1991. Republicans didn't win the majority until 1994. Looks like you're the one making stuff up.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9901E0DA123FF932A05753C1A9609C8B63

"In 1994, Republicans took control of both houses of Congress for the first time since 1954"

Sep 8, 2009

alanleroy,

The Democrats held both Houses of the 102nd Congress: January 3, 1991, to January 3, 1993, the last two years of the administration of U.S. President George H. W. Bush.

Check your facts before you post, please.

Love to all.

Sep 8, 2009

Hypocrisy - a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not; especially : the false assumption of an appearance of virtue.

Just in case a modern day liberal keeps forgetting what the definition means.

Sep 8, 2009

i suppose we can take comfort in the fact that both parties are capable of childish over-reaction and attempting to turn all events to political gain. in contrast to alanleroy, i'd have to say this is among the more sensible pieces i've seen from byron york. it's sad that the best a conservative commentator can say is "the dems started it 18 years ago". can we move on now?

Sep 8, 2009

Republican President speaks to students and the Democrats are in an uproar, even holding hearings, etc. The Democrat
President speaks and the Republicans complain, at least they aren't wasting taxpayer dollars on hearings, etc. We have more important things to worry about, like creeping socialism...Pick your battles, this shouldn't be one of them.

Sep 8, 2009

the democrats and the media know no shame the hypocrisy just keeps spewing from both.

Sep 8, 2009

alanleroy: The Democrats were so the majority in congress in 1991; you get YOUR facts straight. It wasn't until the 1994 elections that the Republicans took control of Congress, for the first time in more than 50 years.

Sep 8, 2009

In the 102nd Congress, from January 1991 to January 1993, (Last two years of Bush 1) Democrats held a majority in both houses. Who's the idiot now?

Sep 8, 2009

How many other news outlets reported this Democrat hypocrisy? Time to purge the media of anti-American radicals.

Sep 8, 2009

Its not the Pres. speaking I have issues with. Its the added work assignment that was approved by the NEA that I take issue with.

The assignment was nothing but a "rah-rah" for 0bama with no critical thinking. Instead of asking "what can you do to support the president" why couldnt they ask "pick one issue you agree with, and one you disagree with and support why"

NEA=brainwashing arm of the DNC.

Sep 8, 2009

alanleroy - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/102nd_United_States_Congress

Sep 8, 2009

"alanleroy
Sep 8, 2009
Democrats were not the majority in Congress in 1991. That statement makes Byron York look like an idiot.
What are the requirements for a Chief Political Correspondent? Can they just make stuff up?"

The Republicans took over control of Congress in 1994. It was the first House majority in 50 years. I don't know about correspondents but it seems that commenters can make stuff up."

Sep 8, 2009

@ alanleroy
Your defamatory comment should be removed. It just makes you look like an idiot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/102nd_United_States_Congress

January 3, 1991, to January 3, 1993, during the last two years of the administration of U.S. President George H. W. Bush.
Both chambers had a Democratic majority.

Sep 8, 2009

AlanLeroy,
You are wrong! There was a Republican President in 1991, but both the House and the Senate were controlled by the Democrats. You should do YOUR homework. you look like a dumba$$.

Sep 8, 2009

to fools like dan:
Although the President may have right to speak to school students, he does not have the right to use his position to influence them politically. The "lesson plans" aka brainwashing propaganda should be scrapped entirely.

Sep 8, 2009

alanleroy-
The 101st Congressional makeup was as follows 55 to 45 Dem to Rep Senators and 267 to 175 Dem to Rep House reps. The 102nd was as follows: 57 to 43 Dem to Rep Senators and 258 to 176 Dem to Rep House representatives. Seems to me the Dems had control contrary to your earlier statement. What am I missing?

Sep 8, 2009

alanleroy: Um, yes, Democrats were the majority in the US House for forty years until the 1994 election and the Contract With America.

Do knee-jerk liberal Democrats like you just make stuff up to post on websites and hope no one either remembers reality or bothers to look up the real history?

I'll trust anything York writes anytime over everything that comes out of your ignorant ilk.

Sep 8, 2009

My problem was with the original lesson plans. How does writing a letter to yourself about how you are going to help Pres. Obama convince you to study and set goals for your education?

The class discussion wouldn't be about the children's educational goals it would be about Obama's political goals.

That's what I find offensive.

Sep 8, 2009

101st Congress (1989-1991)
Majority Party: Democrat (55 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (45 seats)
Other Parties: 0
Total Seats: 100
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102nd Congress (1991-1993)
Majority Party: Democrat (56 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (44 seats)
Other Parties: 0
Total Seats: 100

Sep 8, 2009

Hold on there, AlanLeroy. The idiot looks like you!!! I seriously doubt that Bryon would misspeak. In fact the DEMS held both houses of congress in 1991---the 102nd Congress---
HOUSE: 270 - 164.
SENATE: 56 - 44.
The Republicans didn't gain control until 1994; thanks to Slick Willey Bill.

Sep 8, 2009

alanleroy, your posts make you look like an idiot as well. Read the last sentence, if you can.
The One Hundred Second United States Congress was a meeting of the legislative branch of the United States federal government, composed of the United States Senate and the United States House of Representatives. It met in Washington, DC from January 3, 1991, to January 3, 1993, during the last two years of the administration of U.S. President George H. W. Bush.

The apportionment of seats in this House of Representatives was based on the 1980 United States Census. Both chambers had a Democratic majority.

Sep 8, 2009

Hey alanleroy:

if you have a computer how can you not know the loser democratic party controlled congress until 1994. in 1991 the house was a clear dem majority of 62%. The Senate was also at 57%. Why do you waste your time attempting to make the GOP look stupid? Byron York is informed - you are a hack for the left. Nice try. Enjoy Barry on whatever venue you choose today.

Sep 8, 2009

Alan...the requirements for Chief Political Correspondent appear to be a little higher than the requirements for "Post a comment"...do a little research please.

Sep 8, 2009

The problem with this speech was not the President speaking to school children. It was the lesson plan from Washington to teachers to have the students explain what they could do for Obama, not the country or themselves.

Sep 8, 2009

Democrats were the majority in the house and Senate in 91, both before and after the elections. In fact they actually gained seats in 91. Perhaps checking your "facts" before calling York an "idiot" would have kept you from looking like, well quite frankly an idiot.

Sep 8, 2009

As always, democrats are experts at scumbaggery and political theater, and the republicans are a bunch of incompetent boobs.

Democrats took a speech and got hearings and denouncements out of it.

Republicans took "What can I do to help the president" and now look like whiners, with nobody investigating how much Obama is spending on this.

Sep 8, 2009

Greg, It is indeed a sad day for all Americans when the left wing anti-American radicals condone a nationwide propaganda speech to our schoolchildren, complete with suggested "lesson plans", something your little regional LBJ speech did not include.

Sep 8, 2009

...alanleroy...
Democrats were not the majority in Congress in 1991. That statement makes Byron York look like an idiot.

Yes they were the majority, they held
101st Congress (1989-1991)
Majority Party: Democrat (55 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (45 seats)
and
102nd Congress (1991-1993)
Majority Party: Democrat (56 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (44 seats)

In 1990 the Democrats had a 100 seat majority 267 to 167 with 1 independent.

Whos the idiot now?? Get your facts straight.

Sep 8, 2009

I think you're wrong alan-l, the Dems DID control congress in '91. The Repubs appear to have taken it in '95 and, even for the period they had it, the had smaller majorities than the Dems did. See here: http://uspolitics.about.com/od/usgovernment/l/bl_party_division_2.htm

Sep 8, 2009

Hey alanleroy, way to do your homework:
101st Congress (1989-1991)
Majority Party: Democrat (55 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (45 seats)
Other Parties: 0
Total Seats: 100

102nd Congress (1991-1993)
Majority Party: Democrat (56 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (44 seats)
Other Parties: 0
Total Seats: 100
Source: http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/history/one_item_and_teasers/partydiv.htm

Sep 8, 2009

I don't think that the President's speech would have been such an issue if the Department of Education would not have come out with the teacher's curriculum saying that students should write letters to themselves saying how they should "support the president" and not their country. "Supporting the president" sounds like we live in N. Korea with Obama as "Our Dear Leader". It's the White House that made this political, not Republicans.

Sep 8, 2009

You know, if I were writing this article, the obvious thing I would report would be WHAT Bush said; I would reprint the talk, highlighting what some people thought was political. The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.

Sep 8, 2009

Dems also had a majority since 2006, remember, things were supposed to get better? Remember the Fannie/Freddie hearings with Barney Frank? Pretty soon, youtube is going to remove cspan content..., or keep their supporters too drugged up to notice, lol.

Sep 8, 2009

The 102nd Congress did have a majority of Democrats...in the Senate and House. Check your facts first, it makes YOU look like an idiot Mr. alanleroy. The House had a very large majority of over 60% of the seats, the Senate had no fewer than 56 Democrats...

Sep 8, 2009

ALANLEROY,
I thought I'd clear up a little lie you tried to pull off: Democrats ruled the Senate from 1987-1995 (100th-103rd congress), and the House from 1955-1995 (83rd-103rd). Therefore, the Democrats ABSOLUTELY WERE in power during this 1991 speech. If you do your homework a little better, like Obama wants you and schoolchildren to do, you would not have sounded so ingnorant. Sounds like an apology to Bush Sr., and current Senator Lamar Alexander is in line, since Democrats now suddenly think this is such an altruistic idea, and worth the expense, which will surely be more than $27k. Truth shall set you free.

Sep 8, 2009

Alanleroy, where did you get that information? In the 101st congress, from 1989 - 1991, the Democrats had a majority in the Senate 55-45 and a majority in the House 260-175. In the 102nd Congress, from 1991 - 1993, in the 101st congress, from 1989 - 1991, the Democrats increased that majority in the Senate 56-44 and in the House 267-167 with one independent.

This looks like a good message in this speech but there is naturally a high sensitivity to the potential for political motivations. I'm less concerned about what the president says than what politically motivated teachers may decide to use from the experience. I have encountered my share of revisionist teachers pushing political agendas on my kids but fortunately, my kids get their critical thinking lessons at home and are well equipped to determine fact from conjecture.

Sep 8, 2009

George H. W. Bush was not president in 1991. Jeez Alanleroy. What as moron. Read the article before opening your yap.

Sep 8, 2009

alanleroy
you are an ignorant tool. The democrats controlled both houses in 1991.

Senate:
Majority Party: Democrat (55 seats). Minority Party: Republican (45 seats). Other Parties: 0. Total Seats: 100

House of Representatives:
Majority Party: Democrat (261 seats). Minority Party: Republican (174 seats). Other Parties: 0. Total Seats: 435

Sep 8, 2009

@ alanleroy
In the 102nd Congress (1/3/1991 -1/3/1993), the Democrats held 56 seats in the Senate, 270 seats in the House. Clear majorities to anyone with even a passing familiarity with basic math.

Apparently, the qualifications to be a Chief Political Correspondent are a little tougher than the requirements are to be an ill-informed, anonymous internet blow hard.

That is all.

Sep 8, 2009

Wrong alanleroy. The Democrats had complete control of Congress until 1994, when Clinton's policies drove everybody to elect Republicans to the House and Senate. Please get your facts straight before posting.

Sep 8, 2009

Hitler did the same thing with Germany's kids.

Sep 8, 2009

The problem here is not with the President's speaking to the children. The problem is the timing and political climate surrounding the event. With the President's flagship healthcare reform bill languishing due to an uprisal from mainstream Americans, he and his likeminded politicians in leadership of the House and Senate have been telling those same mainstream Americans to shut up and be quiet and that their efforts are nothing more than "astroturf". Of course this bill comes on the heels of the largest spending spree to take over private corporations in the history of mankind. Since the masses are continuing to protest in an unprecedented way, this speech gives the appearance that he has given up on his own presidency and is now trying to win the hearts of the children (read future voters) in order to ultimately get buy in from the next generation and eventually complete this country's conversion to all out socialism.

Sep 8, 2009

Let us not waste time with the ACORN thugs and their lying comments. The speech by Abu Hussein from Kenya to the school children may be cleaned up of the barefaced propaganda, but the followup by the teacher union goons will not be.

Sep 8, 2009

alanleroy: Check this out re the makeup of the 102nd Congress (1991).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/102nd_United_States_Congress

In fact, until 1994, Republicans had not held the majority in the House for forty years, since the 83rd Congress (elected in 1952) under Republican Speaker Joseph William Martin, Jr.

Anyhoo. . .

It's probably OK for a President to give a pep talk to students. Even THIS President's speech is probably pretty innocuous. Unfortunately, the whole atmosphere surrounding this President is so disturbing, it makes the motivation behind this otherwise seemingly rather mainstream event seem questionable & give parents cause for concern.

I often catch myself remembering things from Pres. Obama's inauguration speech, which was supposed to be "inspiring," but I found quite unnerving.

Sep 8, 2009

1. Being concerned about what children are exposed to is not "getting your panties in a bunch".
2. Those of us who are concerned are "manning up". We are talking to our children, family and friends, and we are making decisions as parents as to what is best for our children.
3. After reading the President's speech, I find it benign. What is interesting is that the content of this speech does not correlate to the original lesson plans (which I read also)so this is obviously not the speech he intended to give. This speech would not support "Why is it important to listen to the Pres., Governor, Mayor and other elected officials?" No mention of parents. Or "write an essay on how you can help the President".

Sep 8, 2009

I wonder what the speech would have been if not for the uproar.

Sep 8, 2009

I read the text of the speech. While I don't agree with all of it and it would be easy to bring up what the Dems did in 1991 (which was wrong), is "stay in school and work hard" such a bad message?

People need to relax and realize how much brainwashing propaganda we consume on a daily basis. If your high-school student is so weak-willed they can't think for themselves, then I hope this speech gives you a kick in the pants to worry a little more about their education, and not just on the day the President speaks to them. I am sure they hear MUCH worse on a daily basis.

Sep 8, 2009

Amazing that so many people here can rightly note Democratic hypocrisy... while still completing missing that supporting the hysteria over Obama's speech ALSO makes them hypocrites. Hypocrisy doesn't cancel out, you know. It makes you ALL look silly, rahrah Dems and Reps both.

Sep 8, 2009

@alanleroy...I hate to point this out, but you're the one who is wrong. Gephardt was indeed the MAJORITY leader in 1991. Unless Wikipedia has it wrong: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Gephardt

Sep 8, 2009

Now that I have your attention with a comment that is just as stupid as your's Alanleroy, the democrats controlled both houses of congress in 1991.
House majoity leader was Dick Gephardt, a democrat. Senate majority leader was George Mitchell, also a democrat.

Senate breakdown was 54-46 democrats
House was 270-164 democrats.

Sep 8, 2009

Just wondering how much of our tax dollars are being spent by Obama's speech???

Sep 8, 2009

alanleroy, I started feeling sorry for you when I read how everybody was piling up on you. But then I read your response and I have to jump on that pile. Jeremiah Wright, Professor Gates, Van Jones are all racists and birds of a feather flock together.

Sep 8, 2009

Hey AlanLeroy - check *your* facts. The 102nd Congress, serving during 1991, was in fact an overwhelming Democrat majority 270-164. Check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/102nd_United_States_Congress for details. I guess Mr. York was right after all.

Sep 8, 2009

Facts never get in the way of Democrats. Remember - delusional Democrats defiantly deny damaging demographic data.

Sep 8, 2009

""Supporting the president" sounds like we live in N. Korea with Obama as "Our Dear Leader". It's the White House that made this political, not Republicans."
Interesting... When in the not so distant past we were told that in order to "support the troops" one MUST support the President and that to not do so was un-American, how can this be any different? Talk about hypocrisy!!

Sep 8, 2009

To Byron York, thanks for reporting the facts. To alanleroy, nice try, but like most on the left, they use falsehoods to support their arguments. My opinion, this is another example of Nobamas' overreaching ego. Instead of asking students what they can do to help the President, they should be asked what they can do to help the country/community. I have no problem with him say "stay in school, work hard, etc.". Please all beware. Don't let this be a distraction for Nobama's real goal which is to change America forever. The presidential oath of office states, "to SERVE America and to PROTECT the Constitution" He is already a failure.

Sep 8, 2009

Bring on the NEA outrage.

Sep 8, 2009

alanleroy: you all are nothing but racist GOP shills trying to rewrite history
.......................................
"Rewrite history", huh? Perhaps you should stick to opinion and not (false) easily checked facts. YOu don't do too well when your lies are so easily shown to be lies.

Sep 8, 2009

The Lib that's lying is just trying to get hired by the NY Times.

Sep 8, 2009

today's speech is maybe the second draft?

Sep 8, 2009

"alanleroy

Sep 8, 2009

Democrats were not the majority in Congress in 1991. That statement makes Byron York look like an idiot.
What are the requirements for a Chief Political Correspondent? Can they just make stuff up?"

Actually, the facts support Mr. York. I mean, if you believe the facts posted on the Senate / House of Reps web pages.

SENATE SEATS

101st Congress (1989-1991)
Majority Party: Democrat (55 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (45 seats)
Other Parties: 0
Total Seats: 100

102nd Congress (1991-1993)
Majority Party: Democrat (56 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (44 seats)
Other Parties: 0
Total Seats: 100

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

101st Congress (1989-1991)
Majority Party: Democrat (260)
Minority Party: Republican (175)
Other Parties: 1

102nd Congress (1991-1993)
Majority Party: Democrat (267)
Minority Party: Republican (167)
Other Parties: 1

Sep 8, 2009

Alanleroy: Dems were not majority in Congress in '91? And you said York was an idiot!

Sep 8, 2009

Well, it is apparent that the Obama Zombie Disinformation Squad at the DNC is out in full force this morning to defend this already-failed president.

Obama is the absolute, unmitigated disaster that we Conservatives predicted he would be.

Democrats are a pathetic parody of hypocrisy.

Sep 8, 2009

I didn't vote for President Obama and think he is taking us down a path we will regret. I, however, think he should be able to speak to the schools about staying in school and working hard and getting rewarded. We have to give him his props, he came from a single mom family and is the first black man to be president of the GREATEST COUNTRY ON EARTH. This truely is a great inspiring story.
I, however, don't agree that the department of education should be mandating lesson plans, that are "pro" administration agenda, on the schools . This is wrong!!
What would the speech have looked like if the concerned parents would not have spoken out?? Much different I think.

Sep 8, 2009

The problem with Alanleroy is he's this foolish and he probably votes. Sort of explains the administration we have.

Sep 8, 2009

To Alanleroy-

You are the idiot the dems were the majority party in 1991!! Are you really this dumb or you a typical liberal. You can't attack the message but you attack the messenger with lies!!
http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/history/one_item_and_teasers/partydiv.htm

Sep 8, 2009

AlanLeroy: think about this - if the Democrats did NOT control the House in 1991, William Ford would NOT have been the chairman of anything. Byron York is looking less like an idiot by the minute...

Sep 8, 2009

ik

Sep 8, 2009

Republican President speaks to students and the Democrats are in an uproar, even holding hearings, etc. The Democrat
President speaks and the Republicans complain, at least they aren't wasting taxpayer dollars on hearings, etc. We have more important things to worry about, like creeping socialism...Pick your battles, this shouldn't be one of them.
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So at least we aren't wasting tax money makes it ok. How childish can you get? Then why are were talking about it? Oh you killed someone but its ok when I killed someone because at least I plead guilty and saved the government money in a lengthy trial.

Stupid, stupid, stupid. How about the Bob McDonald.

Sep 8, 2009

I agree that the content of the speech strangely does not correspond with the original lesson plans. I will be pointing this out to my homeschool children as we critically review both.

Sep 8, 2009

Alanleroy is a fine example of our nation's public school system. He gets caught in a totally ignorant lie and instead of apologizing he namecalls. Great liberal brain at work, there. The NEA and DNC are proud of you, comrade.

Sep 8, 2009

Funny, the NEA called Bush's speech propaganda, but its website favorably treats Obama's speech.

Can someone explain this inconsistency?

Sep 8, 2009

Alan, you distinguish yourself as a Van Jones repuv. HA HA HA

Sep 8, 2009

The problem is not that the President of the US wants to speak to the nations school children. I don't support him, did not vote for him, but believe it is entirely appropriate for a President to do so.

The problem is that when first announced this was billed as a way for students to "support" President Obama, and while the administration has since backed away from it -- and the media no longer reports it -- people realize this Marxist centered leadership has designs on co-opting America's children. It is that which has rightly provoked an outcry and for which the administration has been called to task. Again, this was not originally a back to school speech, but a rallying cry to support this President's policies and that is wrong.

Sep 8, 2009

The curriculum says that the children (Pre-K-6) could "write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals. I couldn't find anywhere in the curriculum where it asks students to write letters to themselves saying how they should "support the president."

Sep 8, 2009

alanroy
wtf racists? get your facts straight. You probably believe that Bush took down the twin towers too! Its all a rove bush conspiracy. Get a life.

Sep 8, 2009

I'm also concerned about what the liberal teachers will discuss with the kids before and after the speech. I pulled my child from public school after her 4th grade teacher "wept with joy" while watching the inauguration speech with my daughter's class.

Sep 8, 2009

Lost in the froth about presidential narcissism masquerading as "concern for the children" is an opportunity for thoughtful people to ask how it came to pass that 8-year olds have to be told by the president to do their work. How bad will the schools get before somebody has the guts to extinguish the entire US Dept of Education (ED) and all of the federal meddling with local schools that it does. Which of the Constitution's enumerated powers puts the national government in charge of schools and the content thereof? On the utilitarian measure of efficacy alone, why should ED exist when you notice that since its inception per pupil costs have risen in direct proportion to the decline in SAT scores?

"Vanity of vanity. All is vanity."

Buena suerte, amigos americanos

Sep 8, 2009

To Ricardo,

Your quick move to name call really speaks for itself. Sad really.

Dan

Sep 8, 2009

can you say "cult of personality"

Sep 8, 2009

I love how it's said that this "makes the Left look like hypocrites", but it is ignored that at the same time this makes the Right look like hypocrites as well.

Got to love partisan politics where each side is blinded by their own ideology.

Sep 8, 2009

"alanleroy
Sep 8, 2009
you all are nothing but racist GOP shills trying to rewrite history"

Al baby, what makes you think we're "all nothing but racist GOP shills trying to rewrite history"? Do facts bother you that much that you have to resort to name calling? Oh geesh, silly me...I forgot, you're a liberal, and when confronted with FACTS, liberals will resort to name calling 99.99% of the time. Sorry dude, my bad.

Sep 8, 2009

"you all are nothing but racist GOP shills trying to rewrite history"

His own history revision card didn't work, so alanleroy pulls out the (well worn) race card. It would appear that his only chance of winning is to deal the stupidity card from the bottom of the deck.

Sep 8, 2009

George the First to school children: "Write me a letter -- and I'm serious about this one -- write me a letter about ways you can help us achieve our goals. I think you know the address."

Sep 8, 2009

What a bunch of dupes! You were set up and slapped down by the Obamanites! By over reacting you gave the democrats more than they could have hoped for. Since the president redid his speech and took out all his propaganda , the republicans look like a bunch of chicken littles! And you fell for it! Next time Obama wants to give a speech to the kids, who's gonna listen to republicans and conservatives after this? What they should have done was remind everyone about when Bush Sr. Gave a speech back in 91, the Dems went mad and even had committees investigate Bush's motives. I think it was Gerhart who said the president was politically indoctrinating our youth. Republicans had better wake up and play hard ball with a little more intelligent ball playing.

Sep 8, 2009

"jfc1068
Sep 8, 2009
George H. W. Bush was not president in 1991. Jeez Alanleroy. What as moron. Read the article before opening your yap."

George H.W. Bush WAS president in 1991. Methinks you're getting George H.W. Bush (the father) mixed up with George W. Bush (the son). Thought I'd let you know before alanleroy got a chance to throw it back in your face.

Sep 8, 2009

It's a question of trust. If you trust an adult you are comfortable with your kids interaction if you don't trust the adult you don't want any interaction. I don't trust this President because he lies all the time about importnat and unimportant stuff. I don't want him talking to my kids about anything.

Sep 8, 2009

For the two brains above. "alanleroy" the democrats did hold a majority in congress in 1991 you idiot. You really are a political "wonk". And for "Madame Rogue" a rogue diluted thought process; the writer did say that the democrats were in majority. So for both of you don't blog if you don't know what is going on or if you cant get your facts straight.

Sep 8, 2009

Any parent not concerned with their child's exposure to these liars is irresponsible.

Sep 8, 2009

If this happened on a recurring basis, I could see where people would have a problem. Fact is, the President is a cheerleader and he is doing what he feels he does best...talk. No one is expecting much action as he does not produce it. Everytime this is an issue, what does he do? Talks. Someone hurts his feelings, he talks. Its no shock he is trying to be the feel good guy.

As far as indoctrinating our kids, half these young ones won't remember what was said by recess. The others will forget the moment they have their cell phones back and text their friends about movies or whatever...this is much to do about nothing.

Sep 8, 2009

IT seems that the Right Wing Progoganda media decided to ignore this bit of history from almost 30 years ago ....

As Laura Bush said - everyone should respect the President of The United States.

I guess that makes her a SOCIALIST.

Sep 8, 2009

Sep 8, 2009

I love how it's said that this "makes the Left look like hypocrites", but it is ignored that at the same time this makes the Right look like hypocrites as well.

Got to love partisan politics where each side is blinded by their own ideology.

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Great Point --- nothing more than spin control to keep the dups who were duped in to protesting this angry about something else.

Amazing the MILLIONS and MILLIONS being spent for progpoganda for the far right wing in America these days... all under the name of "News".

Sep 8, 2009

Correction to madame rogue. Im sure you appreciate the reiteration of YOUR facts. alanleroy you are dumb.
I guess I dont know what is going on today. Have a great day everyone!

Sep 8, 2009

Let's have them investigate Obama's cost to produce this speech to kids.
It doesn't matter what he does, it ALL is OUR MONEY and not the messiah's. It's time WE reign them ALL in!!!

Sep 8, 2009

By: Byron York
Chief Far Right Wing Propogada

Sep 8, 2009

The truth of it is....We are Sick to death of this president, period. We have had enough of him and this congress..and their destroying of America, period.

Sep 8, 2009

A Haiku

Obama has failed
The worst President ever
Jimmy Carter smiles!

Sep 8, 2009

It is humorous to read a congressman worried about $26K in wasted spending. And a democrat to boot. What a bunch of hypocrites!

Sep 8, 2009

alanroy is Obamas teleprompter writer.

Sep 8, 2009

This is by far the stupidest "issue" yet. We Europeans are laughing at the silly Americans on this one. The youth vote are gone forever from the Republican party. It like children. "but Mommy, Billy did it so why can't I"?

Sep 8, 2009

The thing I find hilarious, is that the Dems "investigated" Bush for spending $26,000. These guys spend that in their sleep. How much is BO spending on this little foray into propaganda?? And not a word.

Sep 8, 2009

Don

Sep 8, 2009

It's a question of trust. If you trust an adult you are comfortable with your kids interaction if you don't trust the adult you don't want any interaction. I don't trust this President because he lies all the time about importnat and unimportant stuff. I don't want him talking to my kids about anything.
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YOU got to be kidding. He lies all the time and you suddenly don't trust THIS President. So what will he do to your kid. You kid will watch him on You Tube or the internet and wonder why their parents are such idiots.

Sep 8, 2009

There is NO REQUIRED ASSIGNMENT for students to write a letter about how they'll help "the president". The language has been changed to: "Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals. These would be collected and redistributed at an appropriate later date by the teacher to make students accountable to their goals."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/04/furor-obama-speech-students-dismissed-white-house-silly-season/

Sep 8, 2009

Kudos to the Washington Examiner for actually doing a little independant research to go along with the crap both sides spoon-feed the press.

Sep 8, 2009

alanleroy wrote:
"you all are nothing but racist GOP shills trying to rewrite history"

You are so ignorant that you make Obama look like a genius.

Sep 8, 2009

Analroy;

You will need a grasp of facts and be able to bring a clear and consise argument if you want to be taken seriously outside of the fourth grade. Meaningless jabs at those you disagree with will get you nowhere. You will have to show us the math on this "majority" the Repiblicans had in 91 and at least part of the conspiracy theory as to how that vauluable information has been kept from the rest of the world and reserved only for the tin foil hat club.

Sep 8, 2009

Hello America, it's beyond wake up time! Germany had its brown shirts and now America has its black shirts. IF the Democrats believed it was wrong for a Republican president to address school children in the 1990's, then what makes it right for Mr. Obama to do it now? Democrats did not like it so they investigated and wanted to prosecute but now they want Americans to be quiet and listen. WRONG! A Marxist president should NOT be allowed to speak to our children and corrupt their minds with his ideology. WAKE UP AMERICA!!

Sep 8, 2009

AlanLeroy must subscribe to the philosophy of MSNBC, Dan Rather, Michael Moore, Pelosi, Waters, Savage, Alex Jones, etc - you know the one "say it, print it, repeat it - then it must be true"

Sep 8, 2009

Dont ya just want to choke people like alanleroy. Even after all of yall posting the facts about the political makeup of that year he still just spews things like "yeah, well, your just a racists". He sounds like an second grader in a playground altercation.

Sep 8, 2009

A Democratic hearing on Bush's appearance at a school? I don't recall this being mentioned on the Sunday talk shows.

I really, really dislike the NEA. It is a political organization that shouldn't be let anywhere near our kids.

Sep 8, 2009

The best way to defeat the Left is not to stoop to their level, but to act justly while pointing out their errors. All this hoopla over Obama's speech is ridiculous; York's article is important in that it directly points out what the Democrats did wrong in 1991. I am one of the ones unconcerned about Obama's speech to students. Just as I wasn't concerned about Bush's.

Sep 8, 2009

First, it says this:

"Democrats were not the majority in Congress in 1991. That statement makes Byron York look like an idiot.
What are the requirements for a Chief Political Correspondent? Can they just make stuff up?'

Then, after being (mostly) politely corrected (or at least more polite that it's original post), it posts this:

"you all are nothing but racist GOP shills trying to rewrite history"

Really, nothing more needs said, does it? It managed to be made a fool, a liar, a hypocrite, and a race-baiter in three sentences, before self-destructing - surely, a new record.

I *do* like this comment:

"The kids like the President because they are not polluted."

Kids also like Barney, Hannah Montana, Spaghetti-O's and fart jokes - they lack the refinement and critical thinking skills that will come (for most people, anyway) later. So, kids liking the President isn't really much of a recommendation.

Sep 8, 2009

Note the date of the Bush speech. One month before the election. Of course it was a campaign speech paid for by all of us!!

Sep 8, 2009

Folks,

alanleroy's comment that:

"Democrats were not the majority in Congress in 1991. That statement makes Byron York look like an idiot.
What are the requirements for a Chief Political Correspondent? Can they just make stuff up?" Is in error.

Democrats controlled the House from the mid 1950s to 1994. Dems controlled the Senate from the late 1980s to 1995.

It is documented - I'm not making this up alanleroy nor is Byron York.

Sep 8, 2009

The last paragraph of Barry's address to students implies he, only he, is working hard to provide classrooms, books, laptops, etc. for schools. Where I live, we pay school taxes for a lot of what he claims credit for.
Inform your sons and daughters, the Barry and the Dems and the union school teachers and staff require money from Mom and Dad in order to pay for all of these educational tools, including teachers' pay.
Longdrycreek Ranch

Sep 8, 2009

Bush's speech was 90% about education, 10% saying no to drugs. He also SPECIFICALLY ASKED THAT STUDENTS WRITE HIM TO SAY HOW THEY WERE GOING TO HELP HIM. Sound familiar?

The Dems at the time were pretty stupid to call in the GAO & criticize the speech, but they at least weren't accusing him of indoctrination and telling their constituents to keep their kids at home, lest they hear something they don't like. The GOP and everyone on the right is being completely hypocritical to criticize Obama addressing students.

Here's the transcript of Bush's speech. Compare it later to Obama's:
http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/research/public_papers.php?id=3450&year=1991&month=10

Sep 8, 2009

So right wingers out there, if you're afraid that one small speech by Obama will turn your kids into raging commie death-panel pro-abortionists, what does that say about your parenting abilities? I let my children listen to George Bush's bald-faced lies and they still seem to be able to think for themselves.

Sep 8, 2009

"Since the president redid his speech and took out all his propaganda ,"

Please provide some proof this happened. Maybe a copy of the speech with all the propaganda? Oh wait, you have no proof. Never mind.

Sep 8, 2009

A pep talk from the President is not a bad thing. It was the Department of Education's lesson plan that created the concern. Couple that with the I Pledge video. Of course Americans will question the motives of this administration. Add the hurry up and pass the Stimulus package, money from it going to the Unions & Acorn, Hurry up Health Care, which doesn't kick in until 2013, after Obama is re-elected and its effects (tax) won't be apparent until midway through his second term, Cap & Trade another tax on ordinary Americans. Obama's tax increases for all Americans through these massive programs, the never ending national debt, Obama's civilian Army, Access to our tax returns. We thought the Patriot Act was invasive. Just hurry up & wait America. I don't think any of us will be happy with the outcome.

Sep 8, 2009

Hmm. I'm starting to wonder what side AlanLeroy is on here. He's given quite a lot of ammunition to the nutjob Repuglicans. Please stop posting.

Sep 8, 2009

Duration: January 3, 1991 – January 3, 1993
President of the Senate: Dan Quayle
President pro tempore: Robert Byrd
Speaker of the House: Tom Foley
Members: 100 Senators
435 Representatives
5 Non-voting members
Senate Majority: Democratic Party
House Majority: Democratic Party

Sep 8, 2009

Dan - when Laura Bush said people should respect the POTUS during her husband's term - it - was - **OUT. RAGE. OUS** according to Kos/Huffpo standards. I remember that well. How comical for people to quote her favorably in this situation. And for the record, I disagreed with her statement then, although Bush had earned my respect before he was even POTUS, and I disagree with her statement now - I believe the OFFICE deserves respect, but the person holding it must earn it.

Sep 8, 2009

this is all about getting "the one" into the classroom, so that all the teachers and faculty can speak about "the one" in the open for weeks and weeks to come.

Sep 8, 2009

This is a Democracy each side gets to hammer the other whenever they see fit. Suck it up Left wingers this about politics not the kids. They're screwed for the next 50 years thanks to Obamanomics.

Sep 8, 2009

I love this website! CNN and MSNBC should have a direct feed to its blogs. More than Fox News ever could, Drudge Report blogs shine a light on the bone-chilling idiocy of Right Wing America. Keep it coming people!!

Sep 8, 2009

Do you honestly believe that this is the speech Obama originally intended to give? If so, why does the creepy study guide, have almost nothing to do with it? How will the students write letters to themselves about how they can help the President? Give me a break!

Sep 8, 2009

For those that have mentioned that the current lesson plan does not mention students writing letters explaining how they would help the President. You are correct. The current lesson plan has been changed from the original to be more benign.

Sep 8, 2009

alanleroy

Sep 8, 2009

you all are nothing but racist GOP shills trying to rewrite history

Keep up the good work alanleroy, we of
the GOP persuasion are proud of you!

Please what ever you do, don't stop writing!!!

Sep 8, 2009

This should sufficiently upset some people... LOL!!!

"Laura Bush Endorses Obama School Speach"
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/politics/NATL-Laura-Bush-Praises-Obama-Endorses-School-Speech-57663837.html

Sep 8, 2009

OK, we get it alanroy is wrong. geez do any of you people have a life? Look at me, I'm smarter than someone who posted wrong info. Hey, lets EVERYONE point that out instead of commenting on the article. Oh, yeah, both parties suck a$$! Thanks for listening.

Sep 8, 2009

Please stop picking on my little alanleroy. Someone has hurt his feelings by telling him he is acting like a second grader on the playground. Little alanleroy is a third grader and very proud of this, even though he was held back a year. Also, the teachers of his special ed. class do not permit calling names on the playground. Please check YOUR facts before picking on my little alanleroy!

Sep 8, 2009

That information, that the Dems. investigated and held hearings when Pres. Bush SR, gave a speech, is a hoot. My guess is that since they don't bother vetting their Czars , they have no idea that others do check things out...and that it's a small world, information-wise. And those of us who do a little research are especially glad to help wipe the smug smirks off their faces, and shove their noses into the pile of insults they heap on us who think for ourselves....this time the smug comment was that the complaints were " silly".

Sep 8, 2009

Everyone! take a deep breath. When put in context the left is just being the left. When GW declared war on Iraq, He lied about the intelligence given him(even though it was the same Clinton had) Bush supposedly lied one time, compare that to BO, He has yet to speak anything of truth. Fact checking what he has stated is an on-going chore. No one has their panties in a wad, we are just fed up. Many of us Dems, Reps and Inds are waking up to what this President is doing, we are going to fix it....the correct way, elections are coming, inspite of the efforts of ACORN and trail lawyers the results will be overwelming, BO will then face dealing with his party in the Minority while he finishes his one and only term. One more thing, I think this time when the Dems start howling about wanting a voice in the Minority, the quote will be "We won". We the People will hold our elected officials responcible.

Sep 8, 2009

The purpose of this school talk is simple: to drive a wedge between those that support the president and others that support the country with the Constitution.

Sep 8, 2009

Let us think: first, there was a massive take over of banks, auto industry, then stimulus money, squandered at best, talk about taking over the internet, alot of noise about healthcare reform, close advisors calling republicans ass@@@@@, then an apparent cloak of socialism, now he wants to speak to children? What's next? The liberal left is in a tizzy because the right wing is opposed? Remember, you sow what you reap!

Sep 8, 2009

Alanleroy, just another dumb**s. Probably can't count nor has any idea of what is happening in the world!

Sep 8, 2009

Greg, Thank you for your insightful & analytical review of York's essay. Your ability to clearly refute York's documentation on the Dem's hearings of Bush's speech were compelling. And your insightful ending of calling York an a**hole, brilliant! BTW this is sarcasm, your entire approach won't sway people to your point of view, when you descend to personal attacks because the facts and truth are against you...not a winning strategy. Just some helpful advice.

Sep 8, 2009

This is a remarkable piece of journalism, sadly, the mainstream imposters (ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS and CNN) knew this all along and said nothing... says a lot about them... they cannot be trusted.

Sep 8, 2009

alanleroy is the perfect example of a whack-a-do leftist...have no clue about American history, but feel free to be re-visionists, and post moronic comments...what a moron.

Sep 8, 2009

I did not think it was appropriate when Bush did it in 91 nor is it right now. The kids in the classroom are a captive audience. This speech could be shown on TV after school when parents are there with their kids to discuss the issues in the home.

alanleroy...resorting to name calling when confronted with irrefutable facts makes you very small minded and juvenile.

Sep 8, 2009

JESUS CHRIST WE GET IT!!! Alan was WRONG! Move on, you morons.

Sep 8, 2009

poor little Danny joins the group of whiners who cry "name calling" is bad... wah wah wah!
Well Dan if the readers check my post, there was a substantial explanation below the address to you and the rest of the fools. So it wasn't name calling but the identifying and categorizing of your type. Try posting something substantial. Meanwhile, Obama, th ecommunity oirganizer in chief uses every trick and lie in the books from Alinsky and other radical leftists in his attempt to "remake" America and spread the wealth around. Any other apologists think that Obama's attempt to control the minds of our children and grandchildren is innocent and innocuous?

Sep 8, 2009

I love this website! CNN and MSNBC should have a direct feed to its blogs. More than Fox News ever could, Drudge Report blogs shine a light on the bone-chilling idiocy of Right Wing America. Keep it coming people!!

Sep 8, 2009

Let your kids listen and sit down to talk about how Obummer and his policy is ruining their future. Explain the tax code - basis for liberals to spend more than they take in - how their destruction of the capitalist society we have been graced with preserving is wrong, and why. This is a republic - not a socialist or nationalist country. Explaing the difference of the America WE were raised with and the agenda of the liberal far left political eggheads that are calling capitalism a bad thing and what it will do to their opportunities - how it will limit their freedoms and liberty. Teach them to fight back with facts and brains - the one thing we are 'one up' on from the libtards that are running the countrry now.

Sep 8, 2009

And this surprises anyone anymore?

Sep 8, 2009

Heart rates and blood pressures up nice and high. Love it! Keep posting, guys and grrls! See how long those arteries hold up. Only about 7.5 yrs to go!

Sep 8, 2009

Imagine the chaos had people stayed quiet and the original speech been played. His numbers would be in the teens or lower! One can only imagine what was in the original speech by reading what was in the original "lesson plans".
I only hope 2010 doesn't turn out to be another "Iran Election". What better way for Obama to declare martial law.

Sep 8, 2009

Heart rates and blood pressures up nice and high. Love it! Keep posting, guys and grrls! See how long those arteries hold up. Only about 7.5 yrs to go!

Sep 8, 2009

Heart rates and blood pressures up nice and high. Love it! Keep posting, guys and grrls! See how long those arteries hold up. Only about 7.5 yrs to go!

Sep 8, 2009

The ad campaign and lesson plan release through the NEA certainly indicated some kid politics in the pipeline. If he sticks to his text, he'll be OK. My kids were going to pull my grandchildren out of school. They are not in touch with the Republican party, just heard about the speech online and were not happy about the advance stuff. I think the president heard peoples' objections and wisely stood down from some of the more political comments he had been prepared to make. Or possibly he was just ill-served by his advance publicity. I think the uproar was justifiable and timely. It betrays a mistrust for a government that sells trillion dollar programs like a bunch of used car hucksters. A reasonable mistrust of government is always appropriate, and this little tempest is a classic.

Sep 8, 2009

The best way to defeat the Right is not to stoop to their level, but to act justly while pointing out their errors. All this hoopla over Obama's speech is ridiculous. I am one of the ones unconcerned about Obama's speech to students. Just as I wasn't concerned about Bush's.

Thanks, Hypo, for helping me formulate my comment. I agree with you.

Sep 8, 2009

alanleroy Sep 8, 2009

Democrats were not the majority in Congress in 1991. That statement makes Byron York look like an idiot.
What are the requirements for a Chief Political Correspondent? Can they just make stuff up?
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102nd congress - Senate Democrats 56
Republicans 44
House Democrats 267 Republicans 167
Where are you getting your facts before you start calling someone an idiot.

Sep 8, 2009

I personally believe he's TRYING to incite unrest so he can declare martial law, thereby nullifying our constitution and our rights. He could then come steal all our guns, stay in power, and force his Marxist/Communist agenda on us. The Iranian "elections" could easily happen here, too.
Please people, don't allow amnesty, don't allow more gun control, and vote every Obama supporter OUT of office in 2010!

Sep 8, 2009

yeh Obamas speach should include "Sorry I had to hoist taxes on you for the next 100 years for you and your kids" plus "don't worry about going to college, start working early for me to pay for those taxes..because there is not going to by much of a county left when I get done with it..along with the famous Obama laugh
or there will be a job waiting for you when you graduate, a stooge for me being a community organizer, or working for Acorn

Sep 8, 2009

AlanLeroy2...STILL a moron. Probably gets his "facts" from Keith Olbermann. Now there's an idiot AlanLeroy could respect.

Sep 8, 2009

Blatant lies and historical revisionism, like Alanleroy's, are not an indication of stupidity, rather deployment of standard Alinsky tactics.

See it for what its is.

Sep 8, 2009

Can we have just one debate without the race card?

Imagine this kind of discussion in the years between 2000 and 2008..

Do you like G.W. Bush? No. So you hate white people? You are a racist?

See how it makes any political discussion pointless. It is OK that I, and 46% of the country, may disapprove of his political ideology. It doesn't make us racist.

Sep 8, 2009

Heidelberg Germany -

What facts are you referring to of mine?

Sep 8, 2009

Because we no longer stand as one nation, unfortunately the pageantry and respect of the White House will probably never be trusted on either side. When both parties flush out the progressives and marxists there may be a day where we can do this. My son will be exempted today due to the pre and post activities. I'm certain the speech itself will be light hearted and in good spirit, and I would never want to censor anyone's opinion and words - as this admin is currently looking to do to it's opponents.

Sep 8, 2009

to alanleroy: No, they can't make stuff up and neither should you.

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/history/one_item_and_teasers/partydiv.htm





Sep 8, 2009

Democrats were not the majority in Congress in 1991. That statement makes Byron York look like an idiot.
What are the requirements for a Chief Political Correspondent? Can they just make stuff up?

Sep 8, 2009

Please excuse my patient's behavior - I have increased his dose of Zyprexa, which should help.

Sep 8, 2009

To alanleroy: in 1991, Tom Foley -- A DEMOCRAT -- was Speaker of the House. Thus, Dems ran the House of Repreentatives. You are dismissed as an ignorant fool.

Sep 8, 2009

Where in the hell does it say where the nigerian president poser of the US has a right to speak to school kids?

Sep 8, 2009

So in short, it happens with every new president... Big deal, who cares... I didnt care about when Bush did it and i dont care about Obama. Its for the kids.

Sep 8, 2009

the sadness I read hear is total lack of respect for the President of the United States. It's a shame some parents are drilling their political beliefs into their children.

Sep 8, 2009

Lost in all the denouncing and investigating was the fact that Bush's speech itself, like Obama's today, was entirely unremarkable. "Block out the kids who think it's not cool to be smart," the president told students. "If someone goofs off today, are they cool? Are they still cool years from now, when they're stuck in a dead end job...

These are the students that will join the Democratic Party and will rely on Government handouts and entitlements to support themselves and their families for the rest of their lives.

Sep 8, 2009

an article about a poll several weeks back shows that a majority of libbies get their "news" from the distinguished Steven Colbert, folks. does that explain the dolt, alanleeeeroy? fact is, they are afraid of facts. messes up the agenda, ya know.

Sep 8, 2009

Unbelievable! I teach the 3rd grade at Millard Fillmore Elementary in Springfield, IA. I was adamantly opposed to allowing my kids to view the outrageous, self-serving propaganda rant of BHO, but the brown shirt gestapo administrators of this school forced it on us. I stood in the hall, but my kids just got finished watching this horrible man. I went back in and I swear that these poor kids have been brainwashed. They have become part of the machine! They won't stop ranting about how they want to work hard to better themselves, to help their country and improve the lives of their fellow citizens! Can you believe this!! SOCIALISTS!! Every last one of them. I'm taking a coffee break to go call Glen Beck!!

Sep 8, 2009

Yet another way to continue to keep this country divided.

Sep 8, 2009

Peace, everyone. I just want some of you producers to give stuff to me and my posse. It's all about the producers giving to the moochers.

Sep 8, 2009

Double Whomper - check your facts. Control of the senate and house in 1991 was firmly in Democrat control. The only way to confuse a liberal is to use facts. Control of the house and senate will be a landslide and reside with the Republican Party in 2010 and 2012. Thanks Commarade Obama, you did it. You brought us hope and change and in 2010 and 2012 we will bring you change.

Sep 8, 2009

Alaleroy Rules... Hmmmm so everyone who is against Obama is a NEO-CON(which I understand you truly have NO IDEA WHAT THAT MEANS SO I WILL EXPLAIN IT FOR YOU.) A NEO-CON is a deragotory term similar to UNCLE TOM to describe any Jewish person who is a republican. I love the tolerance of the left.. Here is a novel idea how about our children go so school to learn the 3 R's, and now about why Susie has 2 daddies.. We spend the most public money on education and our children are some of the most uneducated in the industrial world.. Hmmm can someone say TEACHERS UNION TO BLAME? Oh wait no it's not the people running the schools it's that there isn't enough money spent on these failing schools..

GW spoke to children in 1991, the DEMONRATS investigated, as they should have. The Supreme OBAMA speaks and we are all suppose to bow down and kiss his feet..

Pathetic...

Sep 8, 2009

Haha. Keep removing my posts, moderators. I've posted nothing obscene or improper. Just good and fair satire. This site is lame.

Sep 8, 2009

LIES ALL LIES!.. the GOP were in charge! dont question my dear leader!

If you question him you must be a racist!

Sep 8, 2009

Alan,
Do 30 seconds of low level research and grow a brain. The Democrats had a huge majority in 1991. Good grief.

Sep 8, 2009

I'm not even opposed to a nonpolitical speech given to children by the president, but to see such blatant hypocrisy by liberals over the outrage directed as Obama for this speech is almost too much. Have they no shame? I know, stupid question.

Sep 8, 2009

Childish over reaction?

Honey, turn off the TV, put down the comic books, look around at what the politicians are doing to our country, and WAKE UP!

Sep 8, 2009

Such a useful tool for the Left - revise historic facts or just yell louder when challenged. And add the "funny" references to violence (remember Spike Lee's headshot statement about Heston?) and Alaleroy Rules call for violence - it does feel like the Left prefers a NK/Cambodia/VZ style of dissent - none.

Sep 8, 2009

Thank you for showing us that you are actually even more of a moron than Alan Leroy. In typical liberal, fascist (look that up if you need to) fashion, you have wished death upon a group of people simply because you disagree with them. That's great! The future of our country looks so bright with people like yourself inhabiting it.

Sep 8, 2009

In the immortal words of Pink Floyd, "Leave the kids alone!"

Sep 8, 2009

The irony here is that all the parents who are complaining about their kids having to listen to PBHO's speech have already turned their children's education over to the government by just enrolling them in public schools.
And as an aside: the classical model of education says that children are not able to apply logic and reason until the high school years. That argument that parents should "let their 4th graders watch the speech and discern for themselves what to believe" is based on serious ignorance of educational theory.

Sep 8, 2009

Revisionists like to change facts to fit their agenda. Example - Holocaust deniers like to say that 2M Jews died in "warfare", and ignore facts about death camps. When someone ignores known historics and support (sometimes loudly) a partial, incorrect or error-filled statement, they are committing the same "offense" as a Holocaust denier. So...Alaleroy and ilk are in a similar status as Holocaust deniers when they shade, fabricate, twist or misrepresent (trying not to use the "lie" word) facts to fit their agena. We were warned in 1984 and Animal Farm.

Sep 8, 2009

Regarding Clara Jones' comment:
"They won't stop ranting about how they want to work hard to better themselves, to help their country and improve the lives of their fellow citizens! Can you believe this!!:

What I find astonishing is that working hard to better oneself, striving to improve the lives of fellow citizens, and helping one's country could incite such a frightening degree of outrage. Is the alternative (failing to work hard, trying to harm others and one's country) the message we should send to our youth? Whether you agree with the President's policies or not, he is an important public figure and role model. He was not saying "go out there and be Democrats!" but rather encouraging values for which America stands.

Sep 8, 2009

Couldn't this article also be titled "Republicans Supported Bush Speech to Nations School Children"?

Sep 8, 2009

The speech in itself is harmless, but what worries me is what is yet to come? I'm afraid he is just getting his foot in the door!

Sep 8, 2009

"Law Enforcement" enables this swill.

Sep 8, 2009

Why doesn't the Examiner send someone out to interview Gephardt to see what he thinks about the Obama speech?

Sep 8, 2009

FED-Up, I don't appreciate you calling Bush Sr. Hitler.

Sep 8, 2009

Think the NEA will denounce THIS speech, saying it "cannot endorse a president who spends $9 trillion (and counting) of the kids' future earnings"? Yeah, right. What a joke liberals are.

Sep 8, 2009

AFV wrote: "Couldn't this article also be titled "Republicans Supported Bush Speech to Nations School Children"?"

I don't remember students back then being asked to think of ways to help President Bush with his agenda.

Sep 8, 2009

The thing here is that unless conservative voices had not spoken up rather loudly, the speech that Obama would have given was highly political and very much has a socialist tone. Since the light of day has been shone on it, it had to be re-written. Everything to date done by this president and this administratin shows that they need to be continuiously watched, rather scary scenario.

Sep 8, 2009

Alan Leroy- you are actually in the wrong on this one, in the 102nd U.S. Congress, which met from January 3, 1991 until January 3, 1993, Democrats held 270 of the 435 House seats (62.1%) and 56 of the 100 Senate seats (56% for the numerically challenged).

Sep 8, 2009

"alanleroy
Sep 8, 2009
you all are nothing but racist GOP shills trying to rewrite history"

That broken record is rapidly exhibiting the law of diminishing returns.

Yelling offensive insults at valid criticism only highlights the Left's totally incoherent message on pretty much everything.

Sep 8, 2009

The problem is ... this country has gone barking mad ... and cannot seem to rise above juvenile political debates that pit form over substance. And, the media are largely to blame because they have 24 hours of "news" and associated whatnot to sell to the mob... who appear to have nothing better to do than remain in a continuous state of frothy agitation.

Sep 8, 2009

It's a contest of who's the most petty?

Sep 8, 2009

It is absolutely unbelievable how morals have changed since we have a Democratic Congress back in town... Hypocrites to the highest degree........

Sep 8, 2009

Alanleroy,

WAIT A MINUTE! People point out that your facts are wrong, and suddenly they are "Racist GOP schills?" What the hell does THAT mean?? Maybe you can't accept the fact that you were incorrect (hey, it happens to us all!)about who was in the majority in 1991, but HOW does that make those who point it out to be RACISTS!!?? This is whole issue is just unbelievable.

Sep 8, 2009

The problem that I have with it is not that he chose to address the children in a speech. The problem that I have is that he made it essentially a command for the schools to show it. That is dangerous ground. One of the tools of indoctrination is not trying to do everything all up front but taking those little baby steps under everyone's nose. Think about it, if he does it this year, it's big news--next year it won't be as big a thing, then the year after that, it won't even be a news story, then the ability to mix messages into his address becomes something hardly noticed. If you look at the tools of socialism, you'll see that winning the hearts and minds of youth ranks right up there. That's why I don't like it, and that's why I exercise my freedom of choice to not allow my child to watch it.

Sep 8, 2009

Hey Alaleroy Rules!

Here is how it works. Your computer has a unique number called a MAC address, that in turn is connected to another number called an IP address. Your ISP (Look it up moron) knows what customers go with what IP and MAC addresses. So it is REALLY easy to find you.

You have threatened to fire bomb the next GOP convention, so you have threatened to harm members of congress. You have committed a felony. If I were you, id get a lawyer right away.

Sep 8, 2009

Really? ... Is this necessary or responsible debate ...?

"WIND Radio talk show host Michael Medved said: "Using government schools to force students to bond with the maximum leader might seem appropriate for Cuba or North Korea, but it's clearly out of place in a constitutional republic."

Sep 8, 2009

Jerk liberals always change the rules during the game, we all get that. What a bunch of loser hypocrites. Atleast Bush didn't have ties to communists and wasn't trying to lead us into communism.
Democrats are pathetic creatures.

Sep 8, 2009

Anybody got a link to the 'original' speech prior to the much talked about editing? Seems like a lot of folks have read it, but I cannot find a copy. I'd be much obliged if someone could point me to it.

Sep 8, 2009

I am not an Obama fan, but to tell school children to set goals and work toward them is an admirable thing. We spend too much time on partisan politics and not enough on our childrens future. One question: If both parties are against deficits, then why do we have them?

Sep 8, 2009

john738 - you have apparently read it (the pre-edited speech). Can you post a link for us?

Sep 8, 2009

Hmmm, obvious as always.

One group voices sound objections prior to the problem... looking forward to arrange a compromise.

The other looks backwards, then gets in a tussel over 23K. Airtime alone for obama will be millions.

Sep 8, 2009

I have said both parties are crooks and hypocrites.

Sep 8, 2009

BurmaShave

Sep 8, 2009

Alanleroy wrote: “Democrats were not the majority in Congress in 1991. That statement makes Byron York look like an idiot.”

Yes, they were Alanroy. Guess what that makes you?
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LOL!! Alanroy, the Republicans won the Congress in November of '94.
You have been....
PWNED!!!

Sep 8, 2009

I'm sorry, i wasn't paying attention, when exactly do the hearings begin?

Sep 8, 2009

alanleroy: The Democrats were in control of Congress in 1991, the Republicans didn't take over till 1994, look like you are the one looking stupid!

Sep 8, 2009

Where I was raised in Red Wyoming and Nebraska, suggesting that there was something wrong with the President of the United States talking to school children (in a non partisan speech) would be considered treasonous.

Because we were taught to abide by the results of elections, and that the president was OUR president, the only one we have.

But you're all "real Americans" right?

Yeah. Right. Sure.

Sep 8, 2009

Seriously, does anybody have a link to the original (read: unrevised) version of the Obama school speech? Based on multiple posts it is rife with socialist overtones. It seems that if this were true, Fox News, the Washinton Examiner, Drudge Report, etc. would have posted a copy on their homepages by now, yet I cannot find a copy. For those of you who have read the original, please point us to it. Then we can really give those liberals some grief!

Sep 8, 2009

Republican President speaks to students and the Democrats are in an uproar, even holding hearings, etc. The Democrat
President speaks and the Republicans complain, at least they aren't wasting taxpayer dollars on hearings, etc. We have more important things to worry about, like creeping socialism...Pick your battles, this shouldn't be one of them.
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So at least we aren't wasting tax money makes it ok. How childish can you get? Then why are were talking about it? Oh you killed someone but its ok when I killed someone because at least I plead guilty and saved .....

My point is that we need to pick our battles, we have creeping socialism, etc. etc.... if it sounds stupid to you to say we are at least not wasting taxpayer dollars on hearings for this, so be it... compare it to whatever you want.... We need to unite and stop this President from following through on his socialist agenda....not snite and call eeach other names.

Sep 8, 2009

Democrats were the Majority in Congress from 1954-1995

Sep 8, 2009

Because "Alaleroy Rules!" is a hate-filled parasitic slacker without any intelligence or discretion, ie, a "liberal", he freely exposes their dream agenda for everyone to see: confiscate guns, censor free speech, kill republicans. That he's so witless he can't even copy a display name correctly--as he disparages others' intellectual capacity--is just icing on the cake. Hilarious yes, but sobering. Just think how many of his ilk are out there, "contributing" to society!!

Sep 8, 2009

You folks need to look in the mirror for a minute. I get that you don't "trust" Obama (whatever that is supposed to mean and whether or not it has anything to do with his race,) and that this is part and parcel of all your screaming hissyfits. But I don't "trust" any politician. Do you want to or need to?

Maybe the problem is that the right has a nearly biological need to trust authoritah figures and fall in line (my country right or wrong, etc.), but have been presented with someone that symbolically just can't fit their paradigm. Again, "for whatever reason."

Some day soon the Republicans will get over their cognitive dissonance and become responsible adversaries once again. Unfortunately, it will take a generation to undo the damage that has been done here, and after all your screaming hissy-fits over Dijon mustard and comma-nists and death panels, when you finally do come back to earth and argue cogently once again, it will be as Cassandra.

Sep 8, 2009

Golly, can you believe that? Those poor Democrats, liberals and leftists have such short memories. To think they'd forget how they behaved with George W. Bush. You'd be inclined to call them hypocrites, wouldn't you, or is that too polite?

Sep 8, 2009

alanleroy
- "Democrats were not the majority in Congress in 1991. That statement makes Byron York look like an idiot."

You should ONLY talk about things that you know about. The Dems WERE the majority in congress in 1991. .....speaking of idiots....

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/history/one_item_and_teasers/partydiv.htm

http://clerk.house.gov/art_history/house_history/index.html

Sep 8, 2009

@GoneMuddin
It is on the whitehouse website.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/MediaResources/PreparedSchoolRemarks/

And no it does not have any socialist undertones, or any political propaganda. The speech is pretty straight forward and clear.

Sep 8, 2009

Contrary to the claims of some people who have been reading revisionist history, the Democrats held both houses in 1991. Even Wikipedia has it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_elections,_1990
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections,_1990

Sep 8, 2009

alanleroy
- "Democrats were not the majority in Congress in 1991. That statement makes Byron York look like an idiot."

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You should ONLY talk about things that you know about. The Dems WERE the majority in congress in 1991. .....speaking of idiots....

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/history/one_item_and_teasers/partydiv.htm

http://clerk.house.gov/art_history/house_history/index.html

Sep 8, 2009

Mike - I read the final version, but I understood that there was a prior version with heavey socialist themes that was later edited. Many people have posted about it, so I imagine that it MUST exist. Right? I think it would be the perfect tool to use against BHO. Let's find this copy and stick it to this guy!!! Who's with me?!?

Sep 8, 2009

I was trolling for wing-nutz. Got a boatful. Enough bile and ire to fuel the Palin for President campaign. Thanks.

Sep 8, 2009

@AlanLeroy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/102nd_United_States_Congress#Members

Dems were indeed in the majority. L2R please.

Sep 8, 2009

Ronald Reagen talked to the school kids in 1988, and Bush Sr. did it in 1991. Reagen's speech was political. Actual quotes display supply side economic theory in response to a 'student's' question. It is a common ploy to plant supporters in the audience to ask 'questions' so the speak can make points they feel are important, so who knows how genuine the student actually was.

Bush senior's talk included a part where he asked student's write to him as to how he could accomplish his goals....what makes that different from Obama asking what the student's could do for his Presidency?

All politicians are in it for themselves, party non withstanding. It is time to give up on the crippled two party system and get some alternate voices that aren't beholden to the cash flow that runs Washington's policies for the past 40 years.

Sep 8, 2009

The "race card" is indeed the only card that many libs are "left" with....They look and sound so foolish. It is especially enjoyable when one of the minority folks who "get it" and don't want more of this government intrusion speaks out. Those poor people are "Uncle Toms". Brave people in my mind!

Sep 8, 2009

To USNRET - best point of the day-"If both parties are against deficits, then why do we have them?" Where is an effective Balanced Budget Amendent (Amendment to the Constitution, not some worthless Agreement)?

Trying as best I can to forget the Dems attack on Bush for doing something even less political than Obama with the school speech, I believe that the President should speak to school children on a yearly basis. Have the President speak to the youth yearly with the highest ranking member of the other party (the one not in power). Have the President and the other official screen the other's talk and coordinate on something that will benefit the youth and not either political party. And yes, invite a representative from Independents or Libertarians or anyone else represented in Congress.

I really would like to think that we could put the benefit of the youth ahead of party benefits JUST ONCE.

Sep 8, 2009

alanleroy Sep 8, 2009

"Democrats were not the majority in Congress in 1991. That statement makes Byron York look like an idiot.
What are the requirements for a Chief Political Correspondent? Can they just make stuff up?"

102nd Congress Senate Majority - Democrat. House Majority - Democrat.

Sep 8, 2009

Wow...Democrats are hypocrites...who'd a thunk it?

Sep 8, 2009

This article shows how liberals are phony partisan hypocrites, and it shows how the Democratic party teams with the partisan mainstream media to persecute the right and create fake scandals for their Stalinist show trials.

Does anyone think the Washington Post will do a story trashing Obama for his speech? Will we ever find out the cost of Obama's speech?

Sep 8, 2009

Alanleroy: dum dem plant. Trying to rewrite history yet again. Just like a dum dem, thinking that it won't get fact checked. Guess it thinks we "swiftboated" it...

Sep 8, 2009

The difference here is when Bush spoke it was the Capitol Hill democrats who didn't like it. Didn't seem like the general public had a problem with it. This time it is WE THE PEOPLE who don't like it. Seems like an important message in that.

Sep 8, 2009

I am Alan Leroy - "I was trolling for wing-nutz. Got a boatful. Enough bile and ire to fuel the Palin for President campaign. Thanks."

No, THANK YOU! You have provided us with another example of the intellectual vacancy of the left. Either you are making statements that are factually untrue, or you're engaging in ad-hominem attacks because there's nothing intellectual and FACTUAL you're capable of adding to the discussion. So once again, I say THANK YOU!

Sep 8, 2009

Gonemudding, I can't open the link here at work but google says they have a copy of it here: planetmoron.typepad.com

Sep 8, 2009

Mike, thats the new one that was changed, you also should look at the "lesson plan" that was originally developed to pass out to teachers.

Sep 8, 2009

Most Democrats should not be in charge of a coatroom at a nudist convention.

Sep 8, 2009

alanleroy sounds like the typical lib poster. When his facts are debunked he turns to name calling and pulls the race card.

Sep 8, 2009

Mike, that is the speech after it was re-written. You should also look at the "lesson plan" that was going to be available to teachers for classroom work.

Sep 8, 2009

Greg and Allenroy: Graduate from the 8th grade much? This was a Democrat Congressional investigation launched by the Dems, who were the majority in the House in 1991.

Sep 8, 2009

President Obama could easily speak to school age children. Pick an evening, schedule the speech. Publicize the event and parents can decide If they watch - they can watch together, tivo it, whatever! Why not encourage parents & their children to do this together? Will you get all school age children? Nope. But you didn't get them all going the avenue that was chosen either - several of the schools in my area did not show the speech. Most of the private schools opted out. I home school my children & we did not watch it. Although I have read the speech and we are going to take a look at it later together. There are other options - President Obama likes to "bully" and that is why he chose this avenue. He bullies and he doesn't care what others think. I do NOT tell me he has a "right" to talk to the public school kids..... where exactly did he get that "right" from? I have not heard him asking permission. Maybe he thinks the public school kids are his property...

Sep 8, 2009

I agree as long as the President doesn't try to advance a political agenda, AND teachers don't follow up with an agenda-serving "lesson".

Obama apparently changed his speech from pretty much blatant propaganda to general encouragement at the last minute ONLY because of public scrutiny.

"How the government works" should be being taught by the teachers, and it should include historical underpinnings...not just names and dates. Unfortunately far too many school districts are doing a poor job of it, having become too politicized themselves.

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"Dan said,
Sep 8, 2009
The President has every right to speak to the children of the country. Its a good opportunity...to have a smart discussion about politics and how our government in general works."

Sep 8, 2009

Bad, bad alan leroy brown he's the meanest guy in town meaner than a junk yard dog tra la-----Leave him alone - he and Mr. Jones {Van] don't meaan what they sign!

Sep 8, 2009

Thanks for doing the job ALL the media should be doing...

Liberals and their hypocrisy is always so fun to watch...

Sep 8, 2009

Having read both the speech and the (original) after speech suggested activities, it is clear that the speech as now proposed, is NOT the original.

The activity of writing a letter on how the students can help the president (which has been expunged) makes no sense within the context of the present speech.

This President is not above using children for his own ends "Mean signs ..... how do we know what's right?" straight to Death panels - not what she asked, but what he wanted to address.

Sep 8, 2009

I am impressed both by the large number of accurately informed comments and, sadly, by the number of KoolAde drinkers. The latter make up "facts" to suit their bias.

Sep 8, 2009

101st 1989–1991 100 55 45 0 0 435 260 175 0 0 99.6%
102nd 1991–1993 100 56 44 0 0 435 267 167 1 0 98.3%
103rd 1993–1995 100 57 43 0 0 435 258 176 1 0 98.1%

Sep 8, 2009

john738 hit the nail on the head: the Devil WAS in the details.

Sep 8, 2009

1991 267 dems, 167 reps in the house

Sep 8, 2009

This is all so sad. Our 2 party system is broken. Working together for the good of the people? Hardly. Both sides are to blame, as are all the citizens who perpetuate the opposition to working together. Every congressman's first priority is jockeying for position for re-election.
A house divided cannot stand. We are 36th or 37th in health care. Switzerland is now ahead of us in economic strength. Meanwhile, the media fans the flames of conflict between parties. And the masses assume that if they read it on the internet, or saw it on TV, it MUST be the truth. DUH!

Sep 8, 2009

A lot of comments on when the f.n. Repubs had majority...now, aren't we all hypocrites for playing our own f.n. political games via comments on an article? Maybe WE (yes, including you) should have went to school in our children's place today.

Sep 8, 2009

If he was any other President, we probably wouldn't have a problem with him talking to kids. But the whole "messiah" image that he has cultivated since his campaign is not only obnoxious, it's unhealthy and dangerous. We don't need him (and all these teachers after the speech) holding him up as a Messiah to our kids (the media does a good enough job of that!). And because there was so much agenda in the "letter writing to help the President with his agenda" junk in his intended speech, that it smacked of indoctrination. So now they have sanitized his speech, but apparently not enough. Let's face it, by his falling poll numbers, it's clear we just don't trust this guy anymore. He's lied, obfuscated and flip-flopped on so many issues in such a short time that he has very little credibility now. He has made his own bed.

Sep 8, 2009

alanleroy
Sep 8, 2009
"Democrats were not the majority in Congress in 1991. That statement makes Byron York look like an idiot.
What are the requirements for a Chief Political Correspondent? Can they just make stuff up?"

How stupid are you? The Democrats were in charge of the 102nd Congress in 1991. They had been in power for years. Research facts before showing your ignorance.

Sep 8, 2009

RE:
alanleroy
"Democrats were not the majority in Congress in 1991. That statement makes Byron York look like an idiot.
What are the requirements for a Chief Political Correspondent? Can they just make stuff up"

Who's making stuff up??????
89-91 260 Dem--175 Rep
91-93 267 Dem-- 167 Rep
Speaker of House Dick Gephart- Dem (both terms)

Sep 8, 2009

Wow. Maybe alanleroy is really a genius because he effectively highjacked this thread. I'm a Lib so take my advice for what it's worth, but over at the lib blogs we try not to feed the trolls. Here you give them a feast. I mean really, how many more of you are going to point out that he was wrong about who controlled the congress. And his response to that corrections beneath contempt. So just ignore him. I mean unless it makes you feel better to think he somehow represents all liberals. I'm not a fan of Byron York, but I think this was an excellent piece which gave me some context for my own reactions to the faux controversy. It is a shame the comment thread was not equally interesting and thoughtful.

Sep 8, 2009

The biggest difference is that Obama is doing this 9 months into his first term and the first back to school season. Bush did it at the end of his fourth term, about two weeks before a general election. The timing here makes all the difference in the world.

Sep 8, 2009

I did not have a problem with him speaking, I had a problem with the talking points given to the teachers. It was again, all about Obama. The suggesting of having posters of him and wanted to kids to read the books he wrote ect, I kept our kids home as I did not want them to have the teachers take out their bias on them.

Sep 8, 2009

correction:

his response to those corrections (i.e. claiming you are all racist) was beneath response.

Sep 8, 2009

Ugh. I mean beneath contempt.

Sep 8, 2009

A lot of comments on when the f.n. Repubs had the majority . . . . Maybe WE (yes, including you) should have went to school in our children's place today.

Sheesh, you definitely need to have GONE to school - to a grammar class today. Yes we do need GOOD education in the US but I fear that as the unions exert more control, real education will be less and less.

Sep 8, 2009

Everyone...lay off "alanleroy"

It's not his fault he had a public school education...

Sep 8, 2009

To Bupalos:
The early quote is from Decatur
“Our country! In her intercourse with foreign nations, may she always be in the right; but our country, right or wrong.”

A later version is from Carl Schurtz "The Senator from Wisconsin cannot frighten me by exclaiming 'My country right or wrong.' In one sense I say so too. My country; and my country is the great American republic. My country right or wrong; if right to be kept right; and if wrong to be set right"

Sep 8, 2009

If this makes Democrats hypocrites, then it makes Republicans as well, since they did it first and are now whining hysterically about someone else doing it.

See what I did there?

Democrats AND Republicans = hypocrites

Sep 8, 2009

Are Republicans born stupid... or do they take a stupid pill?

Sep 8, 2009

The hypocrisy goes both ways, folks. Only those who criticized Bush in 1991 have the right to criticize Obama today. So unless you bash on BOTH presidents, or you realize that BOTH speeches were innocuous, you are a hypocrite. Alas, many on this page are too partisan to understand this. In 1991 the Dem critics who now praise Obama were wrong. Today, Obama's critics who think that Bush was treated unfairly are being two-faced.

Grow up, America. It's just a speech that tells kids to be good people.

Sep 8, 2009

As clearly explained by:
Barbara

Sep 8, 2009

The problem with this speech was not the President speaking to school children. It was the lesson plan from Washington to teachers to have the students explain what they could do for Obama, not the country or themselves.


- So on a political level throwing stones back and fourth about Republicans and Democrates, might as well be soft pillows.
- Bush was attacked for anything he did period .


The fact of the matter is Socialism, and or the fear of.
Chavez, came here to make his speech and spit on our president,as well as (On Stern’s radio show he was just beside himself that Ahmadinejad was allowed to speak at such a distinguished university.)
I get the feeling its pretty much anything goes these days.

Sep 8, 2009

This is what all of the letter rooters need to wake up and see. We don't have a two party system we have one party that keeps us bickering so they can keep stealing from us.

Sep 8, 2009

The duly elected President of the United States urging students to stay in school and do the best they can?!?! How un-American desperate terrorist!!!!!!! Who does he think he is, President of the United States?!?!?!?!?!?

Sep 8, 2009

Lot's of comments along the lines of "Democrats AND Republicans = hypocrites".

Of course they are. They have to be. Because unilateral disarmament against the other side's hypocrisy means you will lose. Look up "game theory", or in particular, "The Prisoner's Dilemma" on Wikipedia.

Sep 8, 2009

Nice job allowing that idiot to troll you guys and derail the whole discussion

Sep 8, 2009

"I personally believe he's TRYING to incite unrest so he can declare martial law, thereby nullifying our constitution and our rights. He could then come steal all our guns, stay in power, and force his Marxist/Communist agenda on us."

Freedom Lover, you forgot the sarcasm tag.

People who proclaim this kind of nonsense really belong in the loony bin.

Sep 8, 2009

For the sake of hopefully putting this speech comparison to rest:here is Bush Sr's sppech in it's entirety
http://www.live5news.com/Global/story.asp?S=11086291
As stated before, it was 2 weeks before an election, which contributes to the suspicion of political motivations. In addition, his comments attempted to put a new "spin" on published reports that highlighted the lack of progress in school reform under his watch. He followed that with a sort of "but look over here" about improvements in drug use rates (war on drugs). THESE WERE THE REASONS THAT HE WAS ACCUSED OF USING TAX PAYER DOLARS FOR POLITICAL REASONS.
Mr. York conveniently skips over those aspects of Mr. Bush's speech and acts as if there were no real differences between then and now. Disingenuous or just uninformed? Only he knows for sure.

Sep 8, 2009

Bush shouldn't have done it either. ALL school operations are state-run, you don't mandate something be shown federally, per 20 USC 3403. That's why school boards are elected, the public has no voice in this decision.

If you want to send a message to schools, air it when parents are with their kids and then they can talk about it in class, if the teacher decides to.

Sep 8, 2009

americans made a mistake protesting this speech before he gave it because it gave the regime time to change it. communists.

Sep 8, 2009

alanleroy....
Best you go back to school for some learnin! The Republicans won control in 1994, with Newt's Contract With America. I understand that they have special classes for an idiot like you!

Sep 8, 2009

It would be great if the author included a link to both the WP article as well as a copy of the GHWB speech - otherwise I don't put much stock in this article.

Sep 8, 2009

JFK: "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country!"

BHO: "Ask not how Your Dear Leader can can help you, but how you can help Your Dear leader!"

Yes! There IS a difference!

Sep 8, 2009

Mr. Bush's speech was 2 weeks before an election, contributing to the suspicion of political motivations. He attempted to put a new "spin" onpublishes reports of the lack of progress in school reform under his watch. He also brought up improvements in drug use rates via the war on drugs. There were legitimate reasons for the accusations of using tax payer dollars for propaganda.

Sep 8, 2009

Lets see now hmmm!! Voltair says;If this makes Democrats hypocrites, then it makes Republicans as well, since they did it first and are now whining hysterically about someone else doing it!( Notice how a liberal thinks folks!)No! Voltaire it makes you the DOUBLE HYPOCRITE! You can do it but (complain about GWB speaking to the young students!) And even have an INVESTIGATION! Some "conservatives" are concerned about the ABOMINATION speaking to the students and the LIBERALS SCREAM AND HOLLER ABOUT IT!! And PLUS no investigation has been proposed!! You believe in doing unto OTHERS, but expect to be treated differantly yourself! And yes LIBERALS were the first to HOLLER and want to be the last! Non dare call it HYPOCRISY huh???

Sep 8, 2009

It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion.
- Joseph Goebbels, Nazi propaganda minister

Sep 8, 2009

Any questions? Any lib takers?

Sep 8, 2009

While in class today a teacher asked the students "Who wishes to opt out of Obama's speech at noon?" My 17yo replied "I would like to opt out" She was asked why, she responded "I don't wish to listen to someone speak about anything when I don't particularly care for that person" She was called a racist by her peers. She stood her ground. Her teacher then gave her an option "You can join us for the speech, or you can write an essay, topic of your choice that will be graded while we listen to the President" She choose the essay. Again was belittled for her choice. She completed her essay which was about American Choices and persecution for not going with the majority. She said her teacher was red faced when he read it, especially the part about being manipulated into making a choice and taking the less appealing one. She was not afraid of being brainwashed, or it being a political issues, she simply did not want to hear him speak.

Sep 8, 2009

In 1991, several women joined PETA. Today, a completely different woman bought a fur coat.

Women are such hypocrites!

Sep 8, 2009

Two Wrongs don't make a Right...seriously think about it.

Either side you take, it's a fool's part.

Sep 8, 2009

Alanleroy: You are one stupid person. I love it when people from the democrat party try to make other people look stupid, and it turns out that they're the ones who are just absolute fools. You people...WOW!!!

Sep 8, 2009

Hedy Mr. AllenLeRoy, you are wrong....Republicans took control of Congress in 1994 after two years of Mr. Clinton. The past is a good prdictor of the future. Stay tuned to 2010. Before you blindly lash out like you Angry Liberals do all too often, you get you facts straight.

Sep 8, 2009

OK... Do we really need 1,000 comments on Alan Leroy's majority oversight? I think we should focus on what (no name) is saying. How DARE the President challenge Generation Me-Me-Me that they should WORK hard and STUDY and DO WELL in school and APPLY THEMSELVES!!!! HOW DARE HE!!!!! You're RIGHT, Kurt!!!! WHO in the H does he think he is telling MY kid to study and contribute to the success of our country?!?!?!!!! I'll kindly ask you to proselytize elsewhere!!! I'd MUCH rather have a loser 30 year old who lives at home with his retiree parents, plays video games, doesn't have a job b/c of a wanting skill set, etc.!!!! I won't need that basement, car, phone and computer anyway!!!!

Sep 8, 2009

A lot of kids were left behind...

Sep 8, 2009

Dan: Appreciate your comment, however, we parents were not upset about the speech itself. Oh No, it was the assignment to be given afterwards. The children were to write letters about how they can help the presdent. Do what, turn this amazing society into a socialist nightmare. Yesterday, I read the speech and today decided to allow my children to hear it as the WH promised no such assignment. I thought Obama's words were insightful and inspiring.
I am getting so tired of ppl misunderstanding where the other side's concern is coming from. Wake up America!

Sep 8, 2009

"annie:...Remember, you sow what you reap!"

Hmm, actually, you reap what you sow...

Sep 8, 2009

Hey Alanleroy, the Democrats WERE the majority in Congress in 1991. Check your facts, fool!

Sep 8, 2009

hey alanleroy...Yes the Dems were in control in 91...The Republicans came into control after the midterms in 94!

Sep 8, 2009

You hard right wingers have seriously lost your minds. You've all gone insane.

I hated 'W' with a passion, but I wouldn't have thought twice if he said he wanted to address my kids with a 'stay in school' message.

It's the PRESIDENT. If you hate him so much that you tell you're telling your kids not to respect the office, then just leave the f-in country and don't come back.

Sep 8, 2009

As a parent the only thing I had/have issue with is the proposed (and now redacted) lesson plan that asked students to write a letter to themselves explaining what they can do to support our president's goals (or something to that effect). Due to the furor surrounding the lesson plan the admin removed it, but geez isn't it obvious that such a directive might be quite a bit overboard. We as parents set the curriculum through the PTO in our schools, not Congress (either party), the President (any President), or anyone else for that matter. Unfortunately, the admin and left media act like this breech of trust never happened. We are not that stupid. It's obvious by Obama's polling numbers that he is losing the trust of the middle b/c he doesn't know how to be anything other than what he is: a far left of center President.

Sep 8, 2009

I love all the "I have no problem with the speech, it's the fact that he's asking them to help him that I don't like" comments here and many other places. Oh really? So you were upset in 1991 too when President Bush said "Write me a letter -- and I'm serious about this one -- write me a letter about ways you can help us achieve our goals. I think you know the address."

OH NO!! Bush Sr was a SOCIALIST!!! He was asking kids to help HIM, not their country!

Give me a break people. It's a speech to encourage students to do better in school, in both cases. Lose the crazy socialist babble.

Sep 8, 2009

Hey alanleroy,

It takes less than 1 minute to check the facts and see that you are the fool. The Democrats held a large majority over the Republicans in both House and Senate in 1991. Who's the one making up his facts?

Sep 8, 2009

@AlanLeroy:

Check your history. Democrats WERE the majority party in 1991. It was not until the 1994 Republican sweep that the Republicans became the majority party.

Sep 8, 2009

Hey alanleroy,

It takes less than 1 minute to check the facts and see that you are the fool. The Democrats held a large majority over the Republicans in both House and Senate in 1991. Who's the one making up his facts?

Sep 8, 2009

A lot of comments are made about the "class assignment" of "What can I do to help the President". Actually, I have no problem with this. When you consider who Obama is surrounding himself with, I can't much blame him for seeking the advice of kindergartners. They would certainly be better than the communists, terrorist sympathisers, and fascists that he currently has in his inner circle.

Sep 8, 2009

So many people miss the point of this president's exercise. It's not what he is saying that should be focused on....it is simply a red herring. It's the fact that he is projecting government/himself into a parental role for future generations to be comfortable with an all knowing and wise paternalistic government. Once again government inserting itself into the family structure in yet another attempt to weaken that structure and hold itself up as the answer to all woes. Subtle but effective.

Sep 8, 2009

It takes less than 1 minute to check the facts and see that YOU are the fool. The Democrats held a wide majority over the Republicans in both House and Senate in 1991. Who's the one making up his facts?

Sep 8, 2009

Jon: Yes I was, very upset. There should never be an oppurtunity for a president to go into a school, any American school and ask that children write letters. Hmm, per this post, seems others were as well...in the Democratic party. I would love to know honestly what the definition of socialism is to you liberals. And more so, why are you so eager to give your government, any party, so mcuh power?

Sep 8, 2009

Gosh Bush spoke to the children. Yep and the Democrats had an investigation and hearings. The liberal media did not remember this. Oh, those silly Republicans. Media KA.

Sep 8, 2009

Obama should have apologized to all the children for enslaving them with burdensome debt.

Sep 8, 2009

Kurt: "The duly elected President of the United States urging students to stay in school and do the best they can?!?! How un-American desperate terrorist!!!!!!! Who does he think he is, President of the United States?!?!?!?!?!?"

Of course he can say that. But let's change a few words and then you tell me how it sounds:

I am the duly elected President of the United States and I am urging workers to stay on the job and not go out on strike every time they break a fingernail and produce the best product they can!

How do you think the Unions would react? Just a pipe dream...Obama would never have the courage to say this to the Unions.

Sep 8, 2009

alanleroy: "Democrats were not the majority in Congress in 1991. That statement makes Byron York look like an idiot."

You, sir, are the complete idiot. You should do a bit of research before extolling your buffoonery on everyone as you do. The Democrats WERE, in fact, in in the majority in 1991.
Google is your friend... even when no one else wants to be because of your idiocy. lol USE IT!

Sep 8, 2009

When will the GOP learn that the rules are made up as we go by the Libs because they have the media control? BTW, would you think Obama's ruse of using the NEA as an agent of the Adminstration will be investigated by the Media? By Dems? The GOP wont investigate because for some reason they have some internal fairnss doctrine that Libs/Dems dont use.

Sep 8, 2009

Obama needs to close his pie hole for a few weeks. The man just cannot STFU. God, make him STOP!

On the other hand, nobody could accuse G.H.W Bush of seeking to create a cult of personality in his address to the students: George H.W. Bush HAD no personality.

Sep 8, 2009

I don't have a problem with a president encouraging students to do well in school as Bush's speech did and now Obama's REVISED speech will.

I do have problem with a president telling students to pledge to support him and write letters to themselves on what they're going to do to help him as he originally planned to do.

Sep 8, 2009

You people are missing the point: read the speeches! Here's a link to Bush Sr's 1991 speech http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/research/public_papers.php?id=3450&year=1991&month=10 and to Obama's speech today http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/07/raw-data-obama-speech-american-school-children/

A great speech then and a great speech today. The President can and should use the bully pulpit to inspire the country, and whoever says otherwise, be it the Democrats in 1991 or the Republicans today, are wrong.

Sep 8, 2009

when did telling kids to stay in school and try hard become political in anyway?

Sep 8, 2009

While I believe anyone who voted for the second Bush twice is a complete idiot who probably also believes Obama is trying to kill their grandparents, both parties do these things all the time.

Its called politics.

Sep 8, 2009

I recfall Bush reading to school kids while 9/11 taking place and he sat and sat and sat...

Sep 8, 2009

OK guys, do you read anyone elses posts? I see like 50 responses going, yes the Dems were in power in 102nd. Read or at least scan the thread b4 you comment, jesus freakin christ.

Sep 8, 2009

I am an AMERICAN and if I had school age kids they would have been home today. It's the parents job to instill the will to learn and make the most out of life. I did this with all my kids and they are all self sufficient adults. Obama likes the sound of his voice and his face on the screen, my great grandchildren will be paying off the debt he has incurred so far, living for 2010.

Sep 8, 2009

You are not your political party.
You are a human being, hopefully with some logic.
Like it or not the president is a Democrat. Your gonna haft to deal with that. For the sake of this country, before you demonize the Chief let it have some basis in reality. Only than are you a true patriot. Creating fear and demonizing the president before you even heard his speech is irrational and a sign of insanity.

Sep 8, 2009

Can you imagine if we'd (the American colonies that is) had talk radio, the internet, and 24 hour news back in 1776. We'd have fought and bickered so much that we'd still be British ....

Sep 8, 2009

The last time I remember a Bush talking to school kids was on September 11, 2001, a day that I can't forget.

Sep 8, 2009

Speaking to the kids worked so well for Bush in 1991 that Obama borrowed the idea.

Republican protest just shows how similar the parties are.

Get back to work!

Sep 8, 2009

alanleroy
Sep 8, 2009

Democrats were not the majority in Congress in 1991. That statement makes Byron York look like an idiot.
What are the requirements for a Chief Political Correspondent? Can they just make stuff up?
alanleroy, before you post any statements or information check your facts, you makes us independent/Dem leaning individuals look like jack asses. This is what happens when we let our party be hijacked by mindless libs. Lets take our party back!!! Fire Pelosi and her like minded ilk!!!

Sep 8, 2009

I find it a little funny that this thread is focusing more on one person's incorrect posting of a fact than on the issue at hand.

Sep 8, 2009

At this time, in 1991, George Mitchell (D) was Senate Majority Leader. Tom Foley (D) was Speaker of the House. Sorry AlanLeroy, you should check your facts.

Sep 8, 2009

If nothing else, this is getting people to stop sitting on their laurels and get them to truly thinking about what they believe in.

I've found that the majority of Americans simply sit back and wait for someone to tell them how they should feel about a particular subject. we lazy Americans need to get off our arses and start WATCHING what's happening to us.

Are we so ignorant to believe that we can buy that car, or house, or war and NOT gave to pay for it?? Do we really believe that it's someone elses fault when we don't take responsibility for our own??? Talk to your kids...show them both sides of the story...and stop blaming others for your problems!!! ... Read More

We didn't get here over night people!! Wake up and smell the coffee.

Sep 8, 2009

@postroad: When John Kerry was asked his reaction to learning of the 9/11 attacks, he said he was "dumbfounded," and "unable to function for 40 minutes." Given that he was chosen by Democrats to be presidential candidate, I think Bush did a pretty good job, by comparison. Wouldn't you say?

Sep 8, 2009

http://www.ed.gov/teachers/how/lessons/7-12.pdf

Sep 8, 2009

I am a moderate and think the uproar on both sides is stupid. But I will say this, at least the Democrats waited to hear the speech. The Republicans didn't even know what Obama's speech contained. I'm just saying there seems to be this desire among conservatives to have power over people's lives. Don't give me the bs about you're not for big government, under full Republican leadership, government expand 5 fold into our lives. The only difference between Republicans and Democrats is Democrats want to control economics, Republicans want to control behavior.

Sep 8, 2009

@alanleroy
"Democrats were not the majority in Congress in 1991. That statement makes Byron York look like an idiot.
What are the requirements for a Chief Political Correspondent? Can they just make stuff up?"

No, but apparently you can, alanleroy. Now just go back to your alternate Universe!

Sep 8, 2009

This pres and admin is evil. I don't want any screwed up anybody trying to influence any of my children. He is an ego maniac always wanting to hear himself talk. He can't sit still for 2 minutes always flying here and there trying to be out there for his 15 min of fame. He needs to stay at work and take care of the real problems of government and stop flitting around like and idiot.

Sep 8, 2009

I'm betting that the main reason Republicans like the ones complaining about President Obama's school speech are against health care reform is that they're afraid their psych meds will be covered and they won't have that as an excuse not to take them anymore. Am I right? Come on, you know I am.

Sep 8, 2009

It's the first step to the Obama Youth.

Sep 8, 2009

For years Democrats and libs have stripped religion from our schools and from the people. Last I checked the constitution states "freedom OF religion, not FROM religion." If peoples religious views and opinions are not tolerated in schools, then peoples political views and opinions should also be eliminated from the school. If I can' tell you about my God in school, then you shouldn't be allowed to tell me about your god (Obama) in school. Why doesn't the tolerant (dems and libs) tolerate the intolerant. . .after all they are the ones spouting about their tolerance. I am intolerant and proud of it. . .so tolerate me. . .after all that who you say you are.

Sep 8, 2009

I am really confused by the comments of the obama supporters. Democrats did control the congress in 1991 (fact). Democrats took bush to task for his speech (fact), held hearings (fact), complained and bit**ed (fact). In their opinion this was ok (fact) but if anyone reacts to the annoited one's speech they are racist, anti-everything and just plain mean. Please democrats, crawl back into the hole you came from and leave the rest of us alone.

Sep 8, 2009

alanroid, please return to your cellar. We adults are trying to have meaningful discussions here.

Sep 8, 2009

Mr Leroy is exhibiting the Left's fatal habit of attacking the messenger instead of dealing with the facts. As has been clearly shown by others, the Dems were in the majority in both houses of Congress. The really funny thing about his statement is that it took me about 30 seconds to Google these facts. Down south, we sometimes call this kind of speaking "letting your alligator mouth overrun your jaybird brain".

Sep 8, 2009

I think the moral of this story is that if a Republican President can speak at schools why is it so horrible for a black democrat too. I sense Ignorance. Or just stupidity. Other cpopuntries are just laughing at us cause of how stupid some people can be. I dont blame them.

Sep 8, 2009

Bush gave "assignments" and delivered almost IDENTICAL speech addressed to students while at schgool. And guess what, IT WAS MANDATORY.
http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/research/public_papers.php?id=3450&year=1991&month=10

Sep 8, 2009

What many people are missing in comparing H. W. Bush's speech to students and Obama's speech to students is a very important difference: Bush's speech was to ONE school, and NOT televised live. Obama's speech was planned to address EVERY student in the U.S....LIVE on television.

That difference in magnitude is what seems to be missed by many people making comparisons, and is the reason many people have objected to Obama's doing it live and nationwide, not to just one school and then reported.

It is a significant difference.

Sep 8, 2009

actually armyryan, the moral of this story is when a republican president speaks to school children it is a federal crime and deserves investigation and when a demorcat president speaks to school children it is a great and wonderful thing and no one should critize it.

Sep 8, 2009

Does it truly matter if it’s a Republican or a Democratic issue? If you have or had a child in high school that was not conforming to the rules of the school or society (or even lost focus), wouldn’t you support anything and everything that may help the child? If President Obama saved one student today, his speech was worth it. In my opinion, the parents that are viewing the speech as political gain for the president ~ must have perfect or very young children. Come on people - give Obama some credit and realize that was an awesome speech. Think “outside” of the box for a minute, Obama’s speech may have inspired many children to stay in school and perhaps attend college. Do you realize the high school dropout rate? I hope ALL of the children in my family were able to attend Obama’s speech today at school. By the way, I didn’t vote for Obama.

Sep 8, 2009

Keweester, you daughter is a hero and her teacher should at the very least have to explain her actions to her school board. Someone showed predudicial thinking in that classroom and it was not your daughter. Guilty white liberals gave us this inexperienced president and they continue to play their trump card. I am a conserv ative republican and I look forward to the day I vote for an African American for President, but it sure as hell was not going to Mr. Obama.

Sep 8, 2009

Of course, the Democrats held hearings on Bush's speech to the students...When the Republicans were in the WH, it was a never-ending barrage of accusations and lies coming from the Dems..and now they want to run roughshod over our country and they don't want anybody to speak up or have opposing thoughts.

Sep 8, 2009

Melynda: what was so awesome about the speech. He said things that my daughter as a parent has said to her children and what every parent should be saying to their children. My daughter did not need a president to tell her children what she was telling them.

Sep 8, 2009

It is disengenuous for people to say that their complaint was not with the President's speech, but rather with the idea that the lesson plans asked students to write the President about what they could do, after setting their own goals - to help the President (in the area of education.)

In his own speech to students, President George H.W. Bush specifically stated:

"Write me a letter -- and I'm serious about this one -- write me a letter about ways you can help us achieve our goals. I think you know the address."

Note that President Bush was asking students to write to the President about how they could achieve the administration's goals. Yet this caused no uproar among conservatives? Ask not what your country can do for you, ask rather what you can do for yourself?

Sep 8, 2009

For Freedom, you better recheck your Constitution. The word "god" isn't in there. The only reference to religion outside the first ammendment states that there can be no religious test for a person to hold office. And the first ammendment states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof". In other words, the Constitution basically says that religion has no place in government and vice versa. Or, to use Thomas Jefferson's words "thus building a wall of separation between Church & State".

Sep 8, 2009

I don't Think any president That goes to another country and calls americans ignorant has a right to speak to our children.

Sep 8, 2009

Alanleroy is old news. Time to dump on two other factually-challenged individuals:

gdad
"Note the date of the Bush speech. One month before the election. Of course it was a campaign speech paid for by all of us!!"

imax
"Mr. Bush's speech was 2 weeks before an election, contributing to the suspicion of political motivations. He attempted to put a new "spin" onpublishes reports of the lack of progress in school reform under his watch. He also brought up improvements in drug use rates via the war on drugs. There were legitimate reasons for the accusations of using tax payer dollars for propaganda."

The speech was Oct. 1, 1991. I'm not sure what Nov. 1991 election you two think Bush might have been trying to influence, but if you're thinking of the presidential election btwn Bush/Clinton, that took place in Nov. 1992 -- 13 months later!

Dig in everyone, dinner is served!

Sep 8, 2009

chuck601 - that’s my point – your children may not have needed the speech. However, I live in Houston, TX, and I know of many children that need to hear that message – because they don’t hear it from their parents. There are parents that instill positive morals and values into their children, but I can guarantee there’s more that don’t.

Sep 8, 2009

.....When President Bush spoke to the students I believe that he did not use notes nor a teleprompter. He must have been speaking from his heart.
.....President Obama NEVER speaks without a teleprompter. What on earth does he have in his heart? Is he afraid to reveal the true content of his heart?

Sep 8, 2009

“Mr. Gephardt served as Congressman from Missouri in the United States House of Representatives for 28 years, from 1976 to 2004. During that time, he was elected to serve as House Democratic Leader for more than 14 years, as House Majority Leader from 1989 to 1995 and House Minority Leader from 1995 to 2003.” www.reuters.com

Sep 8, 2009

alanleroy: Dems had 61% of the House in 1991. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections,_1990

Sep 8, 2009

The George HW Bush library website indicates that

"President [Bush] spoke at 12:15 p.m. in a classroom at the school. His remarks were broadcast live by the Cable News Network, the Public Broadcasting System, the Mutual Broadcasting System, and the NBC radio network."

Sep 8, 2009

Does anyone know which party was in control of Congress in 1991? Just curious

Sep 8, 2009

Ya hear that, Republicans? When it comes to pitching a big, stinky, partisan fit you guys are total amateurs.

Sep 8, 2009

All the Dem whiners on this board just prove (again) that they can dish it out but can't take the heat themselves.

Sep 8, 2009

"I will make a bargain with the Republicans. If they will stop telling lies about Democrats, we will stop telling the truth about them."
Adlai Stevenson

Sep 8, 2009

I think it is pretty obvious that when the employee wrote the phrase "Help President Obama" he or she meant "Help President Obama Help The Country" ... this was a talk to get kids inspired to contribute to positive change (you know that thing Conservatives fight against).

Very sad how willing the Corporate Far Right Propoganda Media will go to inflame the Radical Far Right Fringe for it's hoped for return to power.

The Republican party was evil in the 1970's, 1980's, 1990's and now into the new Century === same as it ever was.

Now the undereducated masses that praise McCarthyism and Interment Camps just have access to the internet.

Sad really --- America was much nicer when they were shut ins.

Sep 8, 2009

hwm982pot

Do you search out talking points to repeat ???

President Obama on many occasions has done a great job of speaking without a teleprompter since taking office.

I guess you only "know" what you are told and miss reality as it unfolds or you would know that.

Specific Instance was his last town hall event he did in the round taking questions --- I loved how they set up a teleprompter for his brief opening comments - then slowly had it descend into the stage --- just to disprove your silly smear.

Sep 8, 2009

The really interesting thing that was left out was that Obama's speech WAS political prior to the firestorm it set off, and the follow on "Worksheet" EVEN more so.

Bush Sr. never did any of that, funny how this gets glossed over in the press.

The left doesnt care about right or wrong, they care about only 2 things

1. Does it get us more power
2. Can we get away with it

Sep 8, 2009

Everyone is making this out to be a political issue when it is not. The President of the United States is speaking to the children of the country. Regardless whether you like the man, the point is that the office must be respected. I couldn't stand President Bush, but I sat there and listened to every single one of his 8 State of the Union Addresses. Those who teach their children not to respect the office are disrespecting the country as they are disrespecting the one person who represents us to the entire world. If another 9/11 happened tomorrow everyone would be behind The President, but when he wants to speak to the children about working hard in school then it's considered a liberal ploy to do what... get kids to work hard in school? It is sad that there are parents out there who don't want The President telling their kids to work hard and get an education.

Sep 8, 2009

>>If President Obama saved one student

Oh please. Every student must write a letter on how he/she is going to help the president...

Oh wait, that was draft 1, you know what he REALLY wanted to give.

Sep 8, 2009

this is another patently false story by the Examiner.

Sep 8, 2009

Okay, the Democrats were wary of possible indoctrination by GHW Bush in '91 - that's fair, as it's fair that Republicans are wary of Obamamania. But liberal teachers and school administrators didn't block their students from watching it en masse! That's the difference, and that's the fundamental hypocrisy.

Sep 8, 2009

AlanLeroy is wrong! The Dems held comfortable majorities in both houses in 1991.
NewaygoRepublican

Sep 8, 2009

AlanLeroy is wrong. The dems held comfortable majorities in both houses in 1991.

Sep 8, 2009

WOW PEOPLE

Have you ever heard of a TROLL?!?

Geez, didn't the name "alanLeroy" clue you in?!?

So far I have counted 246 lemmings. That sure was good bait, he caught a BOATLOAD of you.

Sep 8, 2009

Unfortunately, this is what we get for electing a "community organizer" as President. How bout we keep moving in that direction and elect a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader in 2012?

Sep 8, 2009

I am a democrat, I am a liberal, I work for hospice and I work toward people being able to live to the fullest at the end of their lives.

It feels as though I am exactly opposite of anything that would be respected by many of you people posting here, yet I respect all opinions when they are honest and heartfelt. That does not mean that I believe them.

What I don't believe in is name calling and angry disrespect. I cannot listen to the anger that I find here.

We would do better to work together toward shared visions, grounded in respect and honoring the humanity of all citizens of the United States. If we can do that, we will again all be proud not only of ourselves, but of one another.

Sep 8, 2009

gdad: ..."belong in the loony bin". Have you ever heard of Stalin, Hitler, Chavez? Maybe you think they are mythical figures, or maybe you agree with those guys. You have a right to your opinion. But some of us are concerned about the direction of the country for valid reasons. Nothing you or the mainstream media says will change that. The truth is out there. Thank God for the internet and youtube. BTW, there is a youtube recording of Obama saying he disagrees with the Constitution.

Sep 8, 2009

To poster AlanLeroy - you've got your facts wrong. Check before you call someone else an idiot. Democrats were a majority in 1991.

According to Senate.gov
101st Congress (1989-1991)
Majority Party: Democrat (55 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (45 seats)

102nd Congress (1991-1993)
Majority Party: Democrat (56 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (44 seats)

According to clerk.house.gov
267 Democrats
167 Republicans
1 Independent

Sep 8, 2009

I just checked--Alan Leroy is absolutely correct!!!

Sep 8, 2009

alanleroy should get his facts right. Democrat's had 55 of 100 Senate seats, and 260 of 435 House seats, in 1991. I believe that consititutes a majority.

Sep 8, 2009

Obbamo is a SOCIALISTIC MARKISTER.

STOP SOCIALISIM! STOP FUNDING GOVERNEMNT SOCILAIZED PROGRAMS!!

START WITH SCHOOLS, MEDICARE AND THE POLICE!!

Sep 8, 2009

Let's be honest. If G W Bush was president and there was a lesson plan to write letters to yourself how to help G.W. it would be seen as being patriotic. Since it's Obama, it's evil according to the "right"

Sep 8, 2009

I don't think any Present should be talking to all the children in our nation during school without their parents around period.
No matter what political party you belong to, it's just too (1984) creepy.

Sep 8, 2009

Speaking as a Republican who works in public education--There was nothing wrong what so ever with the speech given by Pres. Obama to the nation's school children today. It was stupid for the Republicans and their "tea party coalition" to protest it. Likewise, it was stupid for the Dems to seek a federal investigation when Pres. Bush gave a speech to schoolchildren in 1991. Sometimes adults act worse than small kids.

Sep 8, 2009

AlanLeroy... you need to check your facts... 1991 congress was controlled by dems.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/102nd_United_States_Congress

Sep 8, 2009

Reading these posts is really depressing. Our education system is really failing us. Time to chuck the unions?

Sep 8, 2009

alanleroy, please be more specific. By my count both the House and the Senate had a majority of Democrats. Then this, the two houses combined is called Congress. Your point again ?

Sep 8, 2009

"most of the controversy came after, not before,"

and since the author did not want to admit it, allow me to remind the readers that bush senior pushed his tax cuts while speaking to students.

now (hopefully) you see the difference.

Sep 8, 2009

good one !

Sep 8, 2009

The only reason that Obama's speech was not offensive was because the Republicans caught him w/ his hand in the cookie jar. Had it not been exposed, your children would have been proselityzed to " write letters to yourselves help me". Thank goodness for FOXNEWS who gives us "the rest of the story".

Sep 8, 2009

Those crying "hypocrisy!" conveniently fail to recognize something:

Bush's address was a political stunt. Obama's wasn't.

It makes all the difference.

Sep 8, 2009

And somehow the objections in 1991 justify the objections now? Or somehow it was alright for the President to give a speech then, but not now. Right, I get it.

Sep 8, 2009

What side of the aisle do you think a 4th grader is on when a President speaks and do you really think they hear a hidden political agenda? I remember getting excited to hear the President. Today, we confuse and demoralize our children by showing them how our great government cannot seem to get it right because they cannot agree on anything. Enought is enough. We must demand that term limits be put on the National Ballot and voted on by the American People. We need to throw all these bums out. How stupid can we be to put Lawyers in political office to work for us! How can they be constructive and work together when they are trained to argue and battle and cause misfortune for anyone they go up against, constantly stretching the truth to benefit their own end. They have to win at all costs (usually are tax dollars), and the American citizen continues to pay the bill and loses. How sad a country we are and must look like to the rest of the world.

Sep 8, 2009

How would asking schoolchildren to write letters identifying how they can help the President have constituted indoctrination, proseletyzing, brainwashing, or any of the other kooky stuff that those who are so expert at manipulating people by manipulating words have labeled it? Answer: it isn't. Talk about making something out of nothing.

The likely scenario is that the White House team thought to ask the children to tell the President how he could help them, recalled "ask not what your country can do for you...", and changed it around.

Wherepon the right wing fruitbats saw conspiracy all over it. Of course.

Sep 8, 2009

Lots of time and words wasted on a few silly facts while the cancer that has been eating this country has gone to stage 4. The President can say anything he wants but it is the Congress who will give to him what the country wants. Impeach Congress, vote them all out and get plumbers, secretaries, school teachers, electricians, truck drivers, farmers, real people in that live in the world the laws affect. No to lawyers, doctors, engineers, philosofers. Keep the eye on the ball or we all strike out. Health reform is a distraction that must be fighted everybewer. THE COUNTRY NEEDs CONGRESIONAL REFORM.

Sep 8, 2009

Have we all lost sight of the real issue? Who gives a rip if he wants to tell the youngsters of this nation to do well in school? What I want to know is where does the federal government get off sending our teachers lesson plans at all? It's not about what is being said in front of the camera folks. It's about suggesting that my child be persuaded by a teacher which political agendas are worth examining. This discussion has no place in the classroom, period. And as for changing the lesson plans after the fact? The damage had already been done by suggesting to the teachers of America that it's ok to tell the kids what a great president we have. History will prove whether or not Obama is a great president. Arne Duncan doesn't get to tell us.

Sep 8, 2009

So the pot and the kettle are both black. Since when is that news?

Sep 8, 2009

alanleroy aside, the president's speech today was pretty good with the tough love all you computer parents need to give your kids before they reach the age where they can ruin us all. As far as York's column, this media and Democratic hypocrisy is nothing new. I believe GHWB wasn't reelected because of R. Perot, and because he didn't know how much a gallon of milk was, so you can see those dems are deep thinkers. alan is just another liberal who thinks he's a genius just because of his particular political persuasion.

Sep 8, 2009

Hey realitycheck, it's time you had one. There is no way in hell this president will be able to unite the nation behind him. He has played the weak sister so much, many of us will doubt his ability to meet the enemy head on. Unify behind this guy? Never gonna happen dude.

Sep 8, 2009

I've read several times on here from people that said "It's not the speech I was offended by, it was the work assignment suggestion".

Um...yes, that was the original complaint...and that assignment suggestion was eliminated early on. So why are you still offended? Because they actually responded to complaints and eliminated that part? Shouldn't you all be happy? Nah...didn't think so.

Sep 8, 2009

alanleroy, simply stating something doesn't make it true. nice try.

Sep 8, 2009

To Keweester: Your daughter is to be commended for standing up for what she believed in, epecially in light of ridicule from the other students, as well as the teacher. However, she should have been excused immediately upon her request to opt out of watching the speech and not asked to defend her reasons. I would want to know if all other children who opted out were required to write essays to be graded. Does that mean students who were present for the speech received a grade, as well? If not, your daughter and possibly all other students who opted out were unfairly punished for making an informed decision.

Sep 8, 2009

A lot of you are saying that this shows the democrats have "no shame" and are showing "hypocrisy" by doing this speech.

But you seem to be missing that the republicans did the same style speech under bush and are now showing "no shame" and "hypocrisy" by being against this speech!?!?

Surely there is a weird irony there?

For the record, I dont care which president says it (right or left wing), telling kids to work hard and stay in school is a GOOD thing surely?

Sep 8, 2009

Why am I NOT surprised! The media, the unions including TEACHERS spared NOTHING in getting their noses up BHO's backside.

When will it STOP ?

Sep 8, 2009

Every one that is critical of our President need to grow up and have some manners. It's not like anyone ever called Bush a liar, stupid, war dodger turned war lover, alcoholic or anything else.

Sep 8, 2009

This comment is directed to just about everyone who has posted on this topic, with only a minute handful of exceptions:

How does it feel to be like you? How can you hate the way you do? How can you go about living life with such blind rage about the most inconsequential of things as whether the president should provide social programs and regulations or if the president should eliminate them?

I officially think we now NEED to legalize marijuana because if not, you guys will have no way of mellowing the f*** out.

Sep 8, 2009

The Pres gave a super speech to students.
Not to be missed. He should do it often!!!

Sep 8, 2009

Yes, alanleroy is wrong. but, he is not the point.

The point is what kind of a nation have we become when something so simple can be so demonized? If Dems did it in 1991 and Reps are doing it now...they should both be ashamed.

I shed a tear for my country. Enough, already.

Sep 8, 2009

258 now

YOU ARE LEMMINGS

Sep 8, 2009

Actually, alanleroy IS the point-- many times there IS truth-- the trick is to find it. When Obama says 'the Right has no ideas on healthcare' he ignores the several bills put forth by Republicans-- and lies. The best way to figure out what he is doing is to listen to what he says-- and plan on the opposite. Alanleroy is a great example of the hypocrites on the Left-- but it takes fact-checking to find out. READ THE BILL-- don't believe ABC. When someone says he doesn't want to 'take over healthcare', look at his history. As for the speech, it wasn't 'demonized' by either side. This time, parents became concerned and complained. Under Bush I, Congress INVESTIGATED, and their allies in the press tried to create a firestorm out of nothing. Dorothy tries to make the two look the same, but they are not-- only one of them deserves tears-- tears of laughter as the Left continues to expose themselves.

Sep 8, 2009

Every day, our kids are inundated by commercial messages from people on TV who would not be our choice for role models, yet some want to block the President of the United States from talking to our kids.

What am I missing?

Sep 8, 2009

It seems that we have to be on guard for leaders who would want the children to excel and do better.

Sep 8, 2009

What a bunch of sour grapes! If I took out Obama's name and substituted, let's say, Mitt Romney or Jeff Cantor, none of you would be saying a word. You're all hypocrites, and you make me sick.

Sep 8, 2009

ALANROY WAS WRONG. I agree. How many times do you guys have to repeat this?

The Democrats were being partison fools in 1991, and the Republicans are being partison fools in 2009.

Democrats: -1
Republicans: -1

...on this issue, anyway.

yay?

Sep 8, 2009

Excuse me, "partisan". You can laugh at me now. :)

Sep 8, 2009

So there was a similar, albeit more minor controversy over cost. Amongst congressmen, not so much the American people. Lunatic parents did not pull their children from school to "protect" them from Republican "indoctrination" by the white president speaking, did they?

Sep 8, 2009

Alan Leroy2: No one could be referring to any "facts" you have written as there hasn't been anything factual come out of your pie-hole. The only thing I've read is your infantile rantings about the "right wing". Pretty normal for an ignorant lib-tard.

Sep 8, 2009

At least GWB had to good grace to convert children one classroom at a time. Remember where he was when the 9/11 news broke?

Sep 8, 2009

Alan Leroy, get your fact straight 1991 make up of Congress
Affiliation Members
Democratic Party 56 --> 57
Republican Party 44 --> 43
Total 100

[edit] House of Representatives
Affiliation Members Voting
share
Democratic Party 270 62.1%
Republican Party 164 37.7%
Independent 1 0.2%
Total 435
When I went to school 56 was a majority out of 100 and 270 was a majority out of 435. You must have learned new math.

Sep 8, 2009

"On October 17, 1991, Ford summoned then-Education Secretary Lamar Alexander and other top Bush administration officials to testify at a hearing devoted to the speech. "The hearing this morning is to really examine the expenditure of $26,750 of the Department of Education funds to produce and televise an appearance by President Bush at Alice Deal Junior High School in Washington, DC," Ford began..."

And how much did Ford's hearing cost taxpayers? I'm guessing more the $26K. Here's a "new rule" I'd like to propose: whenever a public official gets indignant about taxpayer money that could have been better spent on x, their own office expenses should automatically come under scrutiny.

Sep 8, 2009

Let's admit it. This comes down to race. Racist parents don't want a black president speaking to their kids. Plain and simple.

Sep 8, 2009

it seems that the demorats are the biggest liars in the world. Clinton never inhaled, kennedy didn't kill that girl, Rangel never missed a tax payment, Obama was born here, he never met Van Jones, blagojevich didn't try to sell a seat, WOW..

Sep 8, 2009

I can't help but laugh at you people. Reading the first few comments after Alan Leroy posted about Dems being the minority in '91, several of you saw fit to correct him. Now.. scroll down through a hundred more comments, and there are still people correcting him. Did you guys happen to miss the other 50 people that corrected him? Look, i know, you guys haven't been right about much lately.. so when you find something I know you just wanna let the whole world know. But it's been covered. So chill out.

BTW, there is a difference between '91 and '09. 1991 this happened after the president talked, and it was about the cost because it was done up like a political advertisement. 2009 you have Republicans saying they should keep there kids out of school, because he's going to be sending a socialist message.
Oh hey, remember what else is socialist?
http://tinyurl.com/l9ddpm

Sep 8, 2009

Byron York is an idiot.

Sep 8, 2009

alanleroy, the Democrats were indeed in control of the house of representatives in 1991 where the inquiries were held. Since it is obviously too much to ask that you be informed before you write, perhaps a few key words such as "Rep" William Ford, and "House Majority" Leader Richard Gephardt, may spring forth a few brain cells next time before you expose your ignorance on the subject...

Sep 8, 2009

You know, all of this controversy makes me wonder if so many people would have freaked out if there HADN'T been a letter-writing lesson plan attached...

Sep 8, 2009

The Democrats held both Houses of the 102nd Congress: January 3, 1991, to January 3, 1993, the last two years of the administration of U.S. President George H. W. Bush.

Sep 8, 2009

The point is our President addressed the young people of our nation. The words he spoke were genuine, intelligent and held a message for today's youth.

Sep 8, 2009

"Democrats were not the majority in Congress in 1991. That statement makes Byron York look like an idiot.
What are the requirements for a Chief Political Correspondent? Can they just make stuff up?"

LOL - You might want to check your facts before posting stupid comments like that. Dems controlled the Senate from 1887-1995 and the House from 1955-1995. Links:
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0774721.html
http://one-simple-idea.com/CongressMakeUp_1855_2008.htm

Sep 8, 2009

...and I might want to proofread before clicking "submit." That obviously should have said 1987, not 1887. 1955-1995 is correct, though.

Sep 8, 2009

Alanleroy, check you facts before you call others idiots. The Democrats were indeed in the majority in 1991, Idiot.

Sep 8, 2009

"Let's admit it. This comes down to race. Racist parents don't want a black president speaking to their kids. Plain and simple."

ROFL - I really hope that was intended as sarcasm. Unfortunately, it didn't appear as such. If it was not intended as sarcasm, perhaps you should evaluate your own racist views before accusing other people of it. Sure, these same people didn't like any previous far-left socialist policies, but they obviously just don't like this socialist because he's half black. Yeah, that's gotta be it...

Sep 9, 2009

I think it was great that he spoke to the young kids of America. For those who want to compare this to the speech George H W Bush made need to gather their facts. Bush made his speech months before the start of the 2002 presidential and Obama made his 8 months after taking office. You can read between the lines

Sep 9, 2009

I didn't really follow politics in the days of Bush1 so this is the first time I am hearing of this, and as a Democrat I find the double-standard appalling. It's an honor to see the president as long as his words are not partisan, which Bush1's clearly weren't. What a waste of taxpayer money.

Sep 9, 2009

Byron is correct. GHWB and BHO give wholly innocuous speeches encouraging school children to do well in school and to think about what they can do to improve our country, and the opposition blows the whole dang thing out of proportion. The only difference being that the latest outbursts are just the death wail of the rump of the GOP.

Sep 9, 2009

Obama is the definition of political. He has and is making stupid, unintelligent moves. He has made many questionable statements. He appears to be an adherent of Marxism. A lot of people are "on" to his agenda. Parents who are paying attention to this are understandably concerned and don't want their kids exposed to this politician's verbal sleights of hand via television. And that's all there is to it. At the very least, President Zero will be made aware of how a significant segment of the American population feels about him.

Sep 9, 2009

Go hang out with your kids and stop wasting time writing about politics if your so concerned about their well being!

Sep 9, 2009

Democrats or republicans, it doesn't matter.
The "an eye for an eye" mentality ruins the true debate of important issues...
President Obama is a political animal but so are ALL of your elected politicians. In the jungle of politics there are lions and there are hyenas.

Sep 9, 2009

As a parent, I don't have any problem with a President or a citizen encouraging my child to do well.
It takes a village to raise a child...

Sep 9, 2009

I don't want any president talking to my children thank you. I told my children what not to do in school, made them work hard, kept them out of trouble and they do fine. They don't need anyone in government telling them anything. That will come soon enough when they can't live due to the taxes required to pay for what their parents have done to them.

Sep 9, 2009

KO did a brilliant job of slamming all the right wingnuts that were playing "chicken little" about PBO speech. Hopefully independents are looking at this extreme behavior by the repubs and will remember come the midterm elections.

Sep 9, 2009

Wow, alanleroy made a lot of you look like idiots!!

You thought he hadn't done his research when he actually proved that most Republicans don't read!!

Otherwise, must of you would have noticed that the answer had already been given! Now who looks stupid!!

Suggestion: read before responding! It will make you look less stupid!!

Sep 9, 2009

The Democrats were not calling Bush a socialist/fascist/marxist/nazi all at the same time (proving the fact that they don't even know what the terms mean). Proves how ignorant the Reich-wing Rushpublicans are. Now that there is nothing to be hysterical about it's typical that none of them can say they were wrong.

Sep 9, 2009

I certainly don't support what certain Democrats did in 1991, it was ridiculous and over the top. However, there are several key differences. First, as mentioned the controversy took place AFTER the speech, not before; It doesn't sound like any democrats were barring their kids from school that day or demanding the school not show the President's address. Secondly, they were not complaining Bush's speech was indoctrination or socialism, or comparing it to Hitler's youth movement, but were against the idea of a school being used as an arena for political gain - again I don't agree with this, but there is a distinction between the two. Finally, I don't recall this controversy in the 90s but I doubt it reached the epic proportions of the present-day version; which is all the more ridiculous given that the full text of the 'controversial' speech was available before hand and its innocent message was visible to all.

Sep 9, 2009

How convenient that this story comes out as the right-wing is wiping egg of it's collective face over the non-event that this speech turned out to be. While it might be true that Democrats looked into Bush, Sr's speech in '91 there was nowhere near the temper tantrum thrown by the extreme right over this. It's sad to see what the party of Abe Lincoln has been reduced to.

Sep 9, 2009

Doesn't surprise me that the NEA would denounce a Republican speaking to kids about education while supporting a Democrat using education to politicize their party. Madison had an assignment where students were to write an anti-war letter to Bush.

Shawn\Gary, No, but the Democrats have called those that oppose it Un-American and Racists.

Sep 9, 2009

@depaz - Nothing... Otherwise we would not have a government any more. Everyone in office would be thrown in jail.

@alanleroy - Actually, both chambers of Congress were controlled by Congress:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/102nd_United_States_Congress

Sep 9, 2009

@Gary Swanson - your comments compliment my idea of how narrow minded and hypocritical our society has become. Anything the right does, it is evil to the left. Anything the left does, it is evil to the right. This two party system has created such a myopic society. Instead of what is right for us as a society, we look at what "my party" did. Both parties are horribly wrong in what they do, yet if they are from "our party," we overlook their wrong doings and see it merely as a witch hunt. We have reps not paying taxes, reps sleeping with pages, reps living in infidelity, reps helping their constituents get bonuses that appall the rest of the country, reps taking money under the table and yet if they are from "our party" they are a-ok. If they are from "YOUR" party, they should be taken out back and lashed until they bleed to death. Such a sad state of thinking.

Sep 9, 2009

@Shawn the difference between Rs and Ds is Ds will let you do whatever you want without a peep prior to, but afterwards will hold it over your head until there is so much pressure you are forced to bow out. Rs try to prevent the event from happening at all by raising a scandal prior to.

Sep 9, 2009

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Sep 8, 2009

The last paragraph of Barry's address to students implies he, only he, is working hard to provide classrooms, books, laptops, etc. for schools. Where I live, we pay school taxes for a lot of what he claims credit for.
Inform your sons and daughters, the Barry and the Dems and the union school teachers and staff require money from Mom and Dad in order to pay for all of these educational tools, including teachers' pay.
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Actually he said Your families, your teachers and I.

Sep 9, 2009

I'd love for someone to come up with the actual transcript of this. Of course, they can't, since it doesn't exist! Seriously. Check the congressional record for the 102nd at thomas.loc.gov.

The remarks Rep. Ford made were completely unrelated in the day of question. And there's no recod of any so-called hearings occuring, no outrage.

How easily are you guys led by the nose?

Sep 9, 2009

There wouldn't have been so much controversy if he wasn't such a controversial president. The decisions he has made recently and in the past are coming back to bite him. The teflon coating is wearing off. People have the right to decide what their own children hear in school. We are paying for it. Obama always spews personal responsibility from his lips but his actions speak otherwise. The government can't give something to someone they haven't already take from someone else.

Sep 9, 2009

Obama's speech to high schoolers is preparation for the 2012 election. There will be no excitement about him or any racially "historical" aspect to his next campaign so he has to get to the students while he can. In my opinion, it was the leftists on the college campuses that got Obama elected. And I suspect a great majority of Obama's campaign stops were to college campuses. No point in speaking to them again, they will have moved on, been layed off, or dropped out by 2012. This is all about him and his future, not any kids or theirs. Why else speak to high schoolers, they'll be in college or they will have been in some low wage job that Obama will promise to save them from if they vote for him in 2012. Obama is far more calculating than anyone gives him credit. He plans way ahead of any opposition, I have to give him credit for that. Wake up!

Sep 9, 2009

I am glad parents spoke up. By speaking up you made men accountable for their words and actions. We had the ability to guide our children and help them understand what was being said. My main concern was - I might be able to take the speech apart and define it, but I could not do that with what a teacher might say to my child in the classroom. I encourage parents to sit with your children and make this a learning experience for all of you. Listen to what they have to say, because I am sure they are getting an ear full at school.

Sep 9, 2009

the story proves that both parties consist of a-holes and the posts here prove that the readers of this story are even worse than the politicians, especially the conservative nut jobs. Their paranoia and sense of victimization on display here proves my high school teacher's claim in 1963 that political conservatism was a mental illness. It clearly is---and I was a Goldwater supporter at the time. Barry is a liberal compared to the snakes who today call themselves "conservatives."

Sep 9, 2009

The issue here is about how politicans act - we all know about that. It is whether we want a few parents to prevent students from hearing a president speak, any president. I for one do not want my children going to a school that won't let chidren hear something unless everyone agrees with what is being said. It is a sad commentary on our school that cave in to a few whacky dissenters right or left.

Sep 9, 2009

Tonight's speech will actually be about the opening of Re-Education camps for Conservatives.

Sep 9, 2009

Lets get something straight a few parents didn't stop the speech and probably never would. What it did do, is allow us as parents in America, to make choices. It's OK that we don't agree. Big deal someone feels stronger than another. That is what makes our country so great. I don't have to sound like you or anyone else. We are not victims we are people armed with information. Some can handle it and some can't. I do know this, we help shape our country every day. So speak out, have an opinion, but remember there will always be someone who disagrees with you.

Sep 9, 2009

As a Canadian watching this "debate" from afar all I can say is that your Congressmen and women are making you look like a nation of idiots.

Gee the President gave a speech encouraging kids to work hard in school and value education. Run for the hills!

With a $1 trillion plus deficit don't you have more important things to talk about?

Sep 9, 2009

Out of stuff to debate on in Canada. Must be pretty boring to find our country so interesting to comment on. I love my Country. A nation of idiots? No! We have things we need to work out and we will.

Sep 9, 2009

What a bunch of crap claiming "it was the lesson plan I had a problem with." The lesson plan was optional. No teacher was required to use it. Also, since when is it controversial for a President of the United States to set a goal to improve graduation rates in this country and then ask student how they can help the President with this goal. I thought it was patriotic to help the President of the United States achieve worthy goals. The President's plan didn't ask the children how they could help the President get reelected or implement socialized medicine the question was about education goals. Quit hiding behind arguments you have heard on TV. You don't trust this president pure and simple.

Sep 9, 2009

The partisan bickering here makes me positively ill. Guess what? Ain't neither side saints, nor are they evil. Your blind partisan bickering just keeps any progress from being made in any direction. Rather than name-call why not try sitting down with someone with a viewpoint different than your own and try to come to an understanding, a middle ground, rather than just pointing and saying, "You're a poopy-head!"

Oh, right... that would take a little bit of sense, something sorely lacking on both sides of the isle.

You all make me sick.

Sep 9, 2009

Not a fan ? Are you actually saying this didn't take place?
On October 17, 1991, Ford summoned then-Education Secretary Lamar Alexander and other top Bush administration officials to testify at a hearing devoted to the speech. “The hearing this morning is to really examine the expenditure of $26,750 of the Department of Education funds to produce and televise an appearance by President Bush at Alice Deal Junior High School in Washington, DC,” Ford began. “As the chairman of the committee charged with the authorization and implementation of education programs, I am very much interested in the justification, rationale for giving the White House scarce education funds to produce a media event.”
How could this not be related?

Sep 9, 2009

Byron York said the Democrats controlled congress in 1991. Poster Alanleroy said no, they did not. Seems to me Alanleroy is wrong, I thought the Democrats were the majority until around 1994. Could someone check that and post back with who was correct?

Sep 9, 2009

Wow~ Too bad this can't really be just a simple message from the leader of our country to let students know that knowledge is opportunity.

Sep 10, 2009

this is a pointless article. first and formost, the charges being held to President Obama are not merely misappropiated funds but rather charges of socialism and indoctrination of children. at the very least the democrats challenges to the first Bush's speech were based purely on unsavory political charges only. also, if the first Bush administered a speech and that in itself is apparently evident of socialism/facism than that would make george h. Bush either one or both of those things wouldn't it? Finally, if President Obama's speeches are so unspecific and general, what would be the harm anyway? the answer: none.

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Sep 10, 2009

Mr. Leroy...The Republicans lost the HoR in 1956 and did not regain a majority until 1994...in the wake of Clinton's attempt to take over healthcare...the Reps had the HoR from 95-07. Before you post maybe you need to study.

Sep 10, 2009

You all know it was a good speech for children to hear, better then most parents do when their children are at home, be thankful President Obama took time to do it.

Sep 10, 2009

Alan leroy has crawled back under the rock from whence he came. Not a peep from the idiot.

Sep 10, 2009

...at the extraordinary amount of raging paranoia and pure hatred in evidence on this page. Talk about being brainwashed! This is EXACTLY what is wrong with this great country. The country is still great, indeed, but too many of its citizens have abandoned all civility, rationality and respectability. It seems that most here have forgotten how to carry on anything that remotely resembles productive discourse. I had to search carefully to locate the few comments of actual substance and point. It is really quite difficult to take seriously anyone who only has the ability to lodge "word bombs" in an attempt to one-up the previous post, too. IFeelSick, I'm right there with you.

Sep 11, 2009

People keep bringing up Pres. Bush Sr. and Reagan's speeches to school children as if it meant what Obama is doing is ok. That is garbage. First, those speeches were not mandatory. Second, the teachers would actually discuss what the Presidents said instead of taking it at face value. Third, the Dept. of "Education" didn't ask kids to write paens to the two, including lesson plans on using their quotes to make posters and reading books about them so they can write letters on how they can assist "Dear Leader" in the future. When Obama and the DOE’s original plans were discovered, they changed everything to cover their tracks, which is why the lesson plans and speech are vanilla pap. If you honestly think that what was said was his original speech, then I have several bridges to sell you. Obama is the first person to ever do something like this. That is what’s different. That is what’s wrong. That’s why we are angry. That’s why everyone should be angry.

Sep 12, 2009

We don't know what the speech was like before they cleaned it up. Lesson plans about Obama and his speeches in the hands of Union teachers? What's political about that? LOL Imagine if it had been W asking to do that. Furthermore this President has always politicized everything. He cannot make a speech (which he does every other day) without making derogatory statements about the Republicans and Bush. Judging on past record, parents had a right to be concerned about this. No other recent President has so consistently assigned fault to the other party and been as partisan as this one in his speech.

Sep 12, 2009

I guess calling all those school districts and keeping our children out of school really worked. Obama's speech wasnt as radical as I had thought, but I still wish I could see his birth certificate. Thank goodness for real Americans out there who will stand up to these nazi tactics. I dont want no librul school teacher tellin my kids about sex, or having them watch this samba boy tell em bout "socialleism". Dang I done thought we beat them reds when Good old Ronny was president. But if he could be here today he'd be outraged.

Yeah yeah, I know Im a racist blah blah blah, but Im actually just a sock puppet republican... enjoy republitards.

Sep 12, 2009

This is to Big Republican: Big Democrat in Republican clothing. Your post says it all. When you cannot win by argument you resort to smear tactics. This is one of many recent incidences of Democrats posing as Anti-Obama doing crazy things desperately trying to smear everyday citizens. I have news for you. Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Libertarians are abandoning this Obama ship this Obama/Big Business/Big Labor/Brave New World/Chicago Machine.

Sep 13, 2009

To alanleroy
Democrats did control Congress 259-178
How about you do your research before you spout off about something you are wrong about.

Sep 13, 2009

depaz

Sep 8, 2009

I wish the GAO would start investigating all things done by EVERYONE on capital Hill. Wonder what they'd find? More importantly, wonder what they'd DO about it. . . . .

---I have a suggestion: handcuffs and life imprisonment at hard labor (something new to them).

Sep 14, 2009

Hmmm, Harry, "no other president has so consistently assigned fault" "and been as partisan as this one"? I guess you have had a major memory lapse, or perhaps a lapse of convenience? I remember when GW was president, if one disagreed with him, the label GW used for such folks was at best "unpatriotic" and more often "terrorist" or "terrorist sympathizer..."

Sep 14, 2009

I have two young children in school. I made sure to watch the published video so that I am in the know of things, you know, like a parent should. I liked what I saw and heard. The focus was entirely on kids being smart with their education. No political ties; no what can you do for the president. Straight to the point, always believe in yourself remarks that made this a speech worthwhile for any student, young or old.

Folks need to get off their soap boxes and end the fear game. Find something else to complain about.

Sep 14, 2009

So...do you guys read any of the comments on here? How many of you replied to @alanleroy with the same information? The guy is an idiot. yay! I think only one person needs to point it out.

As for the rest of you...seriously? Did you watch the speech? Do you feel better now? WHINERS. At least the Democrats waited until AFTER the speech to complain.

Find something REAL to complain about. For example...the fact that the Health Insurance Plan WILL NOT include provisions for illegal immigrants. In case you don't believe:

HERE'S THE BILL: do a search for Section. 246 in Subtitle C
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3200/text

HR 3200, SUBTITLE C, SECTION 246
“Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.”

I am afraid to attend any town halls because of all the guns in the crowd...and the finger-biters.

GROW UP!

Sep 19, 2009

GW made those comments so you'd be proof positive how he felt about you.

Sep 20, 2009

In 1991, I watched this speech as a student. I remember being bored to death by the length and the content of President Bushs speech. At the time, I thought that it wasn't directed to a audience of students, it was addressed to their parents and the media. Today, I read it again and compared its text to the recent speech by President Obama. I don't know how anyone, regardless of their political affiliations could possibly compare the two speaches. Obama was talking to American kids.
Read the speaches yourself and make your own decision!

Oct 28, 2009

The problem is that when first announced this was billed as a way for students to "support" President Obama, and while the administration has since backed away from it -- and the media no longer reports it -- people realize this Marxist centered leadership has designs on co-opting America's children. It is that which has rightly provoked an outcry and for which the administration has been called to task. Again, this was not originally a back to school speech, but a rallying cry to support this President's policies and that is wrong.
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Nov 21, 2009

ANANLEROY stated that democrats were not the majority in congress in 1991.
Where did he get this information?.The 102nd and 103rd houses of congress were controlled by democrats.The house majority whip was David Edward Bonier.1991-2002.

Nov 30, 2009

LOL - I think it's funny how so much is thrown at these speeches. Keep in mind that former presidents are all paid speakers and none of them do it for the goodness of their heart - it's all about the cash money.

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Dec 1, 2009

Bush has always acted the way that he likes and that has shown too much of things in his term. I'm not that much a fan of him any how. IPO

Dec 2, 2009

The problem with this speech was not the President speaking to school children. It was the lesson plan from Washington to teachers to have the students explain what they could do for Obama, not the country or themselves. I had to search carefully to locate the few comments of actual substance and cheap auto insurance point.

Dec 2, 2009

The cost of this controversy must be astronomical. Money that would have been usefully spent on education. It is a sad day when smear tactics are used in this way. Hornby Trains

Dec 2, 2009

i personally dont have a problem with the idea of the president addressing schoolchildren; i think it's great for kids to feel more connected to the government - but i do agree that the letter should be about supporting the country, not the president.

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Dec 2, 2009

Pres. Obama--get used to it. Respect the man and respect the office. He is here to straighten out US. There are some people who hate him. They say that he's a socialist or that he's a fascist, but they have no basis. The real reason they hate him is because he is not like them and he represents all people, including people who are not like them.
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Dec 3, 2009

I was one of the student who heard speech of bush. I really hurted with bush speech. There is no difference between all political animals. I don't believe in politics.

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Keep Politics out of schools PERIOD!..Ronald Ragen and George H. Bush had "NO" buisness doing what they did and obama certainly has no buisness sticking his nose where it doesn't belong either.On a side note...Stop with the race card already.Seems everytime someone stands against this man's views they are automaticly deemed a racist.
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It's an even sadder day, when the elected leader of our country can't speak to the children of our country. I didn't vote for him, but he is our President, and the position deserves respect. Don't like him?; Get out the vote for the opposition next time. But outside of an obvious political slant, he has every right to speak to our youth.
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