Opinion

[Print]  [Email]        

The black-white divide in Obama's popularity

By: Byron York
Chief Political Correspondent
04/28/09 11:52 PM EDT

AP Photo/Alex Brandon

On his 100th day in office, Barack Obama enjoys high job approval ratings, no matter what poll you consult. But if a new survey by the New York Times is accurate, the president and some of his policies are significantly less popular with white Americans than with black Americans, and his sky-high ratings among African-Americans make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are.

Asked whether their opinion of the president is favorable or unfavorable, 49 percent of whites in the Times poll say they have a favorable opinion of Obama. Among blacks the number is 80 percent. Twenty-one percent of whites say their view of the president is unfavorable, while the number of blacks with unfavorable opinions of Obama is too small to measure.

Those opinion differences are clear in the traditional "right track-wrong track" question, a key indicator of the public's mood. Thirty-four percent of whites say the country is headed in the right direction, while 56 percent believe it is "seriously off track." For black Americans, 70 percent say the country is headed in the right direction, with just 23 percent saying it is off track. (According to the U.S. Census, blacks make up about 13 percent of the population, while whites make up about 80 percent. The Times poll divided respondents into black and white, with no other groups reported.)

On the economy, 55 percent of whites in the poll say they approve of the way the president is handling the issue. Among blacks, the number is 91 percent. Thirty-six percent of whites disapprove of Obama's economic performance, while just two percent of blacks disapprove.

Blacks also have a more positive view than whites of the Obama economy overall. Twenty-seven percent of black respondents say the economy is "very good" or "fairly good," while 34 percent rate it "fairly bad" and 39 percent rate it "very bad." Among whites, just 10 percent call the economy "fairly good" (none say it is "very good"), while 42 percent say it is "fairly bad" and 47 percent say it is "very bad." In addition, 41 percent of blacks say the economy is getting better, while just 24 percent of whites agree.

On foreign policy, 56 percent of white Americans approve of the job Obama is doing, while 88 percent of blacks approve. Twenty-six percent of whites disapprove, while just three percent of blacks disapprove.

When asked whether they have confidence in Obama's ability to "deal wisely with an international crisis," 55 percent of whites say they have confidence, while 92 percent of blacks say they have confidence. Thirty-nine percent of whites say they are "uneasy" about Obama on that front, while just five percent of blacks share that opinion.

When asked whether Obama "cares about the needs and problems of people like you," 48 percent of whites say he cares "a lot" about them. Among blacks, the number is 89 percent.

Asked whether, in the next four years, Obama's presidency "will bring different groups of Americans together," 55 percent of whites say yes, while 94 percent of blacks say the same. Thirty-one percent of whites say Obama's presidency will divide people, while just three percent of blacks agree.

When asked whether Obama has "started to make progress in bringing real change in the way things are done in Washington," 42 percent of whites say yes, while 78 percent of blacks say the same.

There are also striking racial differences in the public's opinion of Congress. The Times found that just 28 percent of whites approve of the job Congress is doing, with 55 percent disapproving. Among blacks, 44 percent approve, with 41 percent disapproving.

The Obama Effect even spills over to the subject of Vice President Joe Biden. Forty-four percent of white respondents say they approve of the way Biden is handling his job, while 81 percent of blacks approve.

In the final count, 62 percent of whites approve of the job Obama is doing as president. Among blacks, the number is 96 percent. Together, the two groups give Obama an overall job approval rating of 68 percent. It seems reasonable to guess that if Obama's approval begins to slip in the future, it will likely go down among whites before it goes down among blacks. A continued high rating among black Americans will be a valuable pillar of support for the president, should he one day find himself in political trouble.

4/30 UPDATE: A few commentators on the left are calling me a racist. For a response to criticism of this post, click here.


Byron York, The Examiner’s chief political correspondent, can be contacted at byork@washingtonexaminer.com. His column appears on Tuesday and Friday, and his stories and blog posts can be read daily at ExaminerPolitics.com.
 




beltway confidential

In response to the attention we gave him for his old column on how Washington has "anemic winters" because of global warming, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. tells NRO's Robert...

By a vote of 52 to 33, the Obama administration nominee to the National Labor Relations Board, Craig Becker, just failed to get the 60 votes needed for his nomination to proceed...

The highest form of flattery! Robert, declare yourself! (ap photo) Beltway Confidential knows a crush when she sees one. How else to explain the relentless mocking and...

You're beautiful, Chuck Todd. I mean that. (ap photo) On a day when many White House reporters (ahem) stayed away from the White House for snow or early-deadline...






To view this site, you need to have Flash Player 8.0 or later installed. Click here to get the latest Flash player.


Most Popular Headlines





 


 



 

Reader Comments

All comments on this page are subject to our Terms of Use and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Examiner or its staff. Comment box is limited to 250 words.

Don L

Apr 29, 2009

Unless blacks have a special ability to see greatness, they make serious deecisions based upon the color of one's skin -a fault that was condemned by Martin Luther King. His dream has turned into a nightmare of near worship of a Godless advocate of infanticide and abortion which on a percentage basis hurts the black community more that any other. Keeping the black community dependent upon government for their solutions is nothing more than a form of voluntary slavery. Those who recognize such actions might very well term it self-destruction.

 

MaineGuy

Apr 29, 2009

"...his sky-high ratings among African-Americans make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are." Unless blacks make up a disproportionately high percentage of the respondants to the poll, the result exactly reflects the overall popularity of the policy. I assume that you are not suggesting that black responses should be discounted because they come from a particular demographic.

 

Magic

Apr 29, 2009

The black community has suffered from a lack of Public positive role models. They see the corrupt politicians (Jackson, Jefferson, Scumher)and pay no attention to (Powell, Steele). They see the criminal sports and music stars. They see the local black leaders being less than honest and even getting caught. The politicians, stars, leaders show no remorse for their actions and know that if it comes down to it they will always blame racist America and be believed.

 

jack

Apr 29, 2009

Obama could bone his own children on the steps of Capitol Hill. The media would cheer the 'closeness' of the Obamas, and blacks would start defending incest. Those opposed to his behavior would be labeled racist and closed minded.

 

Vadept

Apr 29, 2009

We're focused on race because the article discusses race, but if you split the numbers down party lines, how would they match up? It seems to me that the black numbers are quite similar to the Democrat numbers, and most blacks are Democrats. The white numbers are shifted by the number of white Republicans who disagree with his policy. I'm not saying there isn't some subtle racism going on (more from the blacks than the whites), but I just don't think it's as much as the article makes it out to be.

 

Some Black Guy

Apr 29, 2009

You are racist for pointing out that black people are racist.

 

DWPittelli

Apr 29, 2009

"On his 100th day in office, Barack Obama enjoys high job approval ratings, no matter what poll you consult." Actually Obama is the second least popular President of the last 40 years, when you compare like statistics (i.e., approval ratings polls taken just prior to the 100th day in office).

 

Joan of Argghh!

Apr 29, 2009

It's a vile example, but I'm afraid Jack is pretty much spot-on. The monolith of the black voter must be corralled and controlled at any cost. Racism is over except in the imaginations of the Media and the Politicians (but I repeat myself). The rest of us could care less about the color of someone's skin. Too bad that makes for an equitable world-view that is unserviceable for political gain.

 

Uncle Joe's Patriotic Taxpayer

Apr 29, 2009

The majority of blacks pay no income tax. Why wouldn't they favor Obama's tax and spend policies? For them it is only spending.

 

Omar

Apr 29, 2009

Keep in mind that Obama receives his most adulatory coverage through outlets targeted to Blacks. There's a concerted effort, among these, to turn BO into another MLK. And there's also a lot of pressure among Blacks to tow the line politically, which tends to breed a tribal perspective on politics. Lastly Blacks do tend to be racist, not just towards whites, but pretty much any other group. They may see their bigotry as an appeal to racial solidarity, but it's racism nonetheless.

 

owlgore

Apr 29, 2009

Apparently, there is no problem when 90 percent of African Americans didn't like Bush.

 

John

Apr 29, 2009

Joan of Argghh! Racism is over? What utopia do you live in? In the country where I live the KKK hold (small, around 40 people) yearly protests. I had a coworker say "having sex with a black person is like having sex with a spider. They are a different species..." and another said "I dont mind mixed relationships, but if my son ever did I wouldnt like it. . ." Just because it does smack you in the face every day doesnt mean it isnt out there. . . racism is alive and well, people just cover it better.

 

Babs

Apr 29, 2009

So,the racist pollsters thought they needed to poll about race? Who gives a crap?

 

Freda

Apr 29, 2009

It is a pity that everything about Pres. Obama has to come to race. When Obama won, the press rallied that it was a historic ocassion because he was the first black president. The press has continued to ask questions about race. And if you ever decide to question or criticize Pres. Obama's policies, then you are labeled a racist. There seems to be no way to get away from this, but then again, a lot of the Obama campaign for election was based on race. Sad but true.

 

Alamo

Apr 29, 2009

Just an observation. When your personal financial support consists solely of a government provided check, the economy is never bad, it's simply irrelevant.

 

Sherman McCoy

Apr 29, 2009

I can see only two ways one could approve of the job The One (TM) has done in his first 100 days. Either 1) you do not know (or know but don't understand) what The One (TM) has been up to; or 2) you are an America hating Communist.

 

Larry

Apr 29, 2009

There is nothing wrong with the poll numbers. They simply reflect the fact that there are alot of uneducated white people out there and the O.J. trial speaks for itself. I don't need glasses.

 

Paul A'Barge

Apr 29, 2009

Remember the OJ trial?

 

Smith

Apr 29, 2009

The night Obama was elected, my older daughter called us in excitement. My wife thought she would never live to see the day when a fellow black would become president. But, she tempered her enthusiasm by saying, "We better hope he's good." Otherwise, she implied, we'll all look bad. This is more than just racial chauvinism. Disadvantage has led some to genuinely embrace Obama's welfare socialism as the solution to their condition. Others embrace him because he is one of their own and (post) modern liberalism only accepts people according to race, gender, etc. Others have to think well because they believe his failures will be a reflection on them. Many whites don't appreciate the priviledge of being seen as individuals. Success or failure is your own. For manifold reasons, the same is not true of blacks.

 

David Kohen

Apr 29, 2009

In short, American blacks are overwhelmingly bigots. The fact that blacks voted 96% for Obama over indestinguishable liberal Hillary Clinton in the Democrat primaries (a statistical impossibility, but for racism) is similar evidence of the racism that pervades black culture.

 

Mike E. Cooney

Apr 29, 2009

This Chicago street thug has TRIPLED the deficit ,has glad handed with American hating dictators,and kissed the hand of a Muslim terrorist appeaser/ financier??!! And, he has apologized for America's GREATNESS??!! He's nothing more than an uncharitable DEMONRAT !! Nothing more.

 

Alamo

Apr 29, 2009

Smith- A thought provoking post, and point well taken. To me that makes Obama's wild swing to the left more inexcusable. He could become a hero across class and race, a historical icon, if he had (or would) only steer a middle course ala Bill Clinton (economically speaking). I do lament the fact that the inevitable failure of socialist economic policies might well cast a pall (unfairly) over future black candidacies.

 

Chris Jones

Apr 29, 2009

The only conclusion one can reach is that blacks don't have a grasp of any of the issues. They think whatever Obama says or does is great because he shares the same skin color.

 

Easy

Apr 29, 2009

Smith said, "Many whites don't appreciate the priviledge of being seen as individuals. Success or failure is your own." I personally wish Obama would be seen as an individual and his success or failure realistically judged, unbiasedly, instead of being given a free pass by the media for being the 'messiah', the '1st Black President', etc. He is a man, and as a man sitting in the office of the POTUS he has gone back on promises, failed miserably to vet and fill the positions of his cabinet, violated the Constitution through more UN-Constitutional Stimulus Bills, nationalizing banks and industry, released classified documents to score a political hit on the previous administration resulting in us being less safe, and of course the Obama U.S. Apology Tour 2009, etc...and all in 100 days. black, white, red, or purple - when you measure him by the legitimate standards all POTUSs are measured by, Obama has had a bad start...IMO.

 

tyler

Apr 29, 2009

this is an accurate poll of blacks most not all but most of them are racist. i see it on tv and i hear it on the radio i think blacks have a lot of problems. they commit crimes and are just people with no morals. i think instead of looking at whites with distain they should look at there own race and say we suck. we lie cheat and steal and we love obama. he is a communist and so are they.

 

bobbcat

Apr 29, 2009

"They think whatever Obama says or does is great because he shares the same skin color." Many whites, all caught up in the historic 'moment' heralded by BO's status as being the first black presidential candidate, think the very same thing.

 

RayJ

Apr 29, 2009

The importance of this polling will be seen at the mid-term elections. Black turnout will be much lower without Obama on the ballot. There will be enormous GOP gains in the house. McCain beat Obama among white voters. And they will be a much larger percentage of the total in the mid-terms.

 

Xanthippas

Apr 29, 2009

This whole column could have easily been written to say that but for the opinions of white conservatives, whites in general would more closely mirror the opinions of African-Americans. Also, I'd be curious to know how many of these scholars of black public opinion leaving comments here are actually black.

 

moonsbreath

Apr 29, 2009

I hope when the bill comes due and we all end up paying more in taxes, more in energy costs, etc. the high percentage of approval ratings by blacks will change. That's my hope & change.

 

MBL

Apr 29, 2009

Now that we have a (6.25%) black president, we will suffer under OJ Syndrome. It's that simple. He's a hero because he's (6.25%) black. Everything he touches turns to s***, but he's (6.25%) black, so it's o-kay. The Emperor has no clothes, and he knows we know it, but hey! He's the Emperor, and he's (6.25%) black. He's untouchable.

 

MBL

Apr 29, 2009

Smith said, "Many whites don't appreciate the priviledge of being seen as individuals. Success or failure is your own." Bull crap!! This is America, and blacks have the same opportunities as anyone else. When blacks stop whining about being persecuted and "kept down by the man," those opportunities will be easy to see. Racism is only allowable for minorities. That should be the first thing thrown under the bus. But it won't.

 

O. J. Simpson

Apr 29, 2009

Anyone remember the murder trial? Blacks in mass were jubilant about the verdict not to convict. Whites in mass shook their heads and felt justice had not been served. Blacks see in Obama hope and change. The personification of a social wrong being righted.

 

Kent

Apr 29, 2009

Typical Republican trying to divide us. Go back to talk radio York and speak that nonsense to Rush or one of the other troglodytes. No one cares what you or your ilk have to say.

 

T. Rogers

Apr 29, 2009

Are you seriously suggesting that polls can not judge how popular his positions "actually" are as long as blacks are included? How else would you suggest we determine how popular his policies "actually" are? Maybe polls should count blacks as 3/5ths of an opinion? To find how popular his positions "actually" are, polls must account for the increasing racial diversity of America. I sense that Republicans must embrace the racial diversity of America in order to grow its ranks. A racially diverse America is "real" America. It is "actually" America.

 

Lies, Darned Lies, and Statistics

Apr 29, 2009

I did some word replacement, to make a point: 49 percent of whites in the Times poll say they have a favorable opinion of [the Democratic President]. Among blacks the number is 80 percent. What percentage of whites voted for President Obama in November? 43 percent? Among blacks, the number was in the mid 90s. So could Obama actually be more popular among whites now than he was on Election Day? That's not what the article suggests. Byron, what the heck are you writing? Editors, what the heck are you printing? There is no story here.

 

Lies, Darned Lies, and Statistics

Apr 29, 2009

I did some word replacement, to make a point: 49 percent of whites in the Times poll say they have a favorable opinion of [the Democratic President]. Among blacks the number is 80 percent. What percentage of whites voted for President Obama in November? 43 percent? Among blacks, the number was in the mid 90s. So could Obama actually be more popular among whites now than he was on Election Day? That's not what the article suggests. Byron, what the heck are you writing? Editors, what the heck are you printing? There is no story here.

 

Clyde

Apr 29, 2009

One wonders what the reaction of black America would be if we swapped leaders with Zimbabwe and Robert Mugabe was in charge here. Would they still be 80% favorable, just because Mugabe and Obama both share their skin color? I suspect so.

 

Denzel Washington

Apr 29, 2009

Is Obama trying to do a cheap imitation of me? ("bamboozled and hoodwinked" -- see American Gangster)

 

Daniel

Apr 29, 2009

Interestingly enough, almost all of these statistics could be used to write a story about the demise of conservatism as a national movement, and the growing status of the Republican party as a hardened core of extreme-right white voters from the South.

 

beachmom

Apr 29, 2009

But there is no way that this is racist because it is blacks who are doing the approving. If this were a white guy Je$$e Jack$on and Al $harpton would be screaming racism. Blacks approve of Obama overall because he is black and it has nothing to do with any issues. I'm waiting for someone in any media to have the spine to ask a black person who says they approve of Obama if it is because he is black. If they say no, it's the issues, ask them which issues and to explain their thought.

 

beachmom

Apr 29, 2009

Also, Obama is the one who continues to bring up race. Most people don't care what color or half color his skin is. But, like others have pointed out, liberals love to box people into groups.

 

Lies, Darned Lies, and Statistics

Apr 29, 2009

A more important question than the one in the story would be: "How do these NYTimes numbers compare to Bill Clinton's numbers after 100 days in office?" Was there a white-black divide there, or merely a Democrat-Republican divide? (85 percent of black voters chose Clinton in 1992, during a recession, correct?)

 

Lies, Darned Lies, and Statistics

Apr 29, 2009

Beachmom, blacks have voted overwhelmingly for white Democrats in presidential elections for decades. Is it so hard to believe that they would support a Democratic presidential candidate based on the issues? Is it so hard to believe that they would tend to support their candidate's policy decisions after 100 days? Is is so hard to believe that they would tend to believe in their candidate's ability to lead, after 8 years of "the other guy" from "the other party". It's called a honeymoon. The President will either disappoint or galvanize his voters.

 

docterry

Apr 29, 2009

More popular than he actually is? You mean his popularity among whites is his 'actual' popularity? The popularity that really matters?

 

vivian Berryhill

Apr 29, 2009

Obama knows that if he loses the confidence of African Americans by sucking-up-to or being seen as too appeasing to White establishment... or, if he loses White Americans in mass because he is perceived as being too socialistic by spreading their wealth around to Blacks and other minorities... he will be a one-term President without a doubt. Walking that tightrope is one he will have to do his entire presidency. http://www.vberryhill-soulvoice.blogspot.com

 

keepin it real

Apr 29, 2009

Never fear folks. I'm sure if we go back in the archives we will discover a similar column from Byron discussing how "Bush's sky-high ratings among white fundamentalists make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are."

 

Apr 29, 2009

"Also, Obama is the one who continues to bring up race" Cite please? Obama has addressed race in the past. Why wouldn't he? 50 years ago he wouldn't have been allowed to sit wherever he wanted to at a lunch counter in the South. If you don't think race is a big deal in this country, you're abysmally ignorant of its history. However, he seems to bring it up a lot less than most "conservatives" do. Reading the comments here, it's obviously on a lot of people's minds in a sometimes very ugly way.

 

John Smith

Apr 29, 2009

O-oh, Byron. You're a conservative and said "black" and "Obama" in the same sentence. I predict a "Worst Person In the World" award for you! Fortunately, no one will see you get it because the award is given out on MSNBC and the only people (other than moi) who watch already assume all conservatives are racist anyway.

 

Apr 29, 2009

On his 100th day in office, Ronald Reagan enjoys high job approval ratings, no matter what poll you consult. But if a new survey by the New York Times is accurate, the president and some of his policies are significantly less popular with black Americans than with white Americans, and his sky-high ratings among whites make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are.

 

Apr 29, 2009

"liberals love to box people into groups" I'm going to use my liberal tilt to hereby declare beachmom a member of the 'ignorant' group. Please check the percentages of AA voters that chose Clinton in 92/96 and Gore in 2000. Your flawed thought process simply holds no water. Oh, and for $200.00, I'll guess you live in the south, too. Not that there is anything wrong with that, as I live in the south. Just sayin'.

 

John Smith

Apr 29, 2009

"Lies, Darned Lies, and Statistics Beachmom, blacks have voted overwhelmingly for white Democrats in presidential elections for decades." Not when they had a black Dem choice.

 

beejeez

Apr 29, 2009

On his 100th day in office, Ronald Reagan enjoys high job approval ratings, no matter what poll you consult. But if a new survey by the New York Times is accurate, the president and some of his policies are significantly less popular with black Americans than with white Americans, and his sky-high ratings among whites make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are.

 

Drew Miller

Apr 29, 2009

Byron, What is the appropriate discount factor for black opinion? Should you subtract some amount from it (maybe 20%, so that 96% becomes 76% approval)? Or should you just weight African-American responses less when coming up with your average (So that maybe five responses count as three people)?

 

cascom@gmail.com

Apr 29, 2009

Obama's policies appear "more popular than they actually are" because blacks support them more than whites, York says. Meaning that black responses are polluting otherwise purer and more meaningful poll results. A more perfect distillation of the racist mindset would be hard to invent. Thanks, Byron, for being so open about it.

 

yorklogic

Apr 29, 2009

These numbers clearly indicate that white people are only opposing Obama and his policies because he's black.

 

Bob

Apr 29, 2009

What, there's no real news to report, so you have to take a poll and make stuff up? I would expect nothing less from a denizen of NRO. Stay classy Byron, but remember that not even Zombie Regan can save the Republicans now.

 

markj111

Apr 29, 2009

I do not understand the point ot the article. Do black opinions count less than white ones? Why are the poll ressults skewed? Was the sample defective?

 

Buford

Apr 29, 2009

No one would think to automatically knee-jerk white evangelical support for Republicans and Bush, but it seems acceptable to discount black support. Are white evangelicals more "American" than blacks or something?

 

Kafka

Apr 29, 2009

What?? Black opinion doesn't count? Good luck with this nonsense. Conservatism has lost every major political issue in US history-- civil rights amendment, public schools, labor unions, abortion, gun control, woman's suffrage, emancipation proclamation, SS, medicare, graduated income tax etc. Conservatives are left to nibble around the edges- they have never been relevant to American history. They seem to think there was some time in the past when conservatives held sway- but no such time existed. The conservatives of the early 1800's wanted to go back to the founding- but alas, Hamilton lost to Jefferson. It's just so inconvenient and unfair to conservatives that White, older, Christian, rich, southern males have always been outnumbered in this democratic country.

 

rosie

Apr 29, 2009

God, you people are sickening! I wish you could hear yourselves. [Oh, does that make me a 'sickist'?]

 

Realspear

Apr 29, 2009

Why not try taking white southerners out of the poll, some of whom, at least 50% of the Texans, are anti-American traitors, and then see what you get. IT would be a very different story, wouldn't it? In fact, to follow the oh-so-scientific method of this columnist, why not take out everyone who supports Obama and post that as your analysis? Seems like that's the way you work.

 

SueBee

Apr 29, 2009

Impying that the poll input from African Americans does not count as much at white input just proves that racism still lives in the USA. White votes (should) count more.

 

Howard

Apr 29, 2009

I agree with Mr. York. We need one of our own kind in the white house.

 

Adolf H.

Apr 29, 2009

I suggest you round up the blacks and put them into camps. Only then will you protect the opinion of the master race.

 

Sarcastro

Apr 29, 2009

Please pay no attention to the party of southern redneck racists. They have nothing to do with this. Nothing, I say!

 

Toad

Apr 29, 2009

So, in your view, only white people's opinion dictates how popular Obama's policies "actually are." That's what you're saying, right? None of your intellectually gifted supporters in the comment threads seems capable of explaining how it coult be interpreted any other way. But of course, from the look of their comments, they agree. Racist hack.

 

PeeJ

Apr 29, 2009

Mr. York's poll analytics are spot on when you weight responses from blacks by 3/5 of those from whites.

 

actor212

Apr 29, 2009

"But if a new survey by the New York Times is accurate, the president and some of his policies are significantly less popular with white Americans than with black Americans, and his sky-high ratings among African-Americans make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are." So you're suggesting we should, I don't know, institute some sort of "3/5ths" rule to make black folks count for less? Racist cracker. Get a haircut, boy!

 

PeeJ

Apr 29, 2009

Of course the repsonses from blacks don't count as much as those from whites. They count 3/5 as much.

 

jawdropping

Apr 29, 2009

Oh, blacks are not part of the "overall" population? Your racist stripes are showing.

 

MBL

Apr 29, 2009

Boy you people miss the point big time. Obama is less black than any other race, yet it's all about black v white. How about democracy/capitalism/federalism v socialism/Marxism/communism? Why do you black folk even want Obama? He's an entitler, a weakener of real black hopes and dreams. He's also an enslaver, but you won't get it until it's too late, and you're under his thumb just like the rest of us.

 

Lies, Darned Lies, and Statistics

Apr 29, 2009

John Smith, Al Sharpton was a black Dem choice that received very little support among black Democrats in the party primaries. Alan Keyes received even less support in the Republican primaries. Please stop perpetrating the lie that blacks vote for blacks, even when they disagree on the issues.

 

nicole

Apr 29, 2009

...some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are. Whaaaat???? Are you suggesting black people be taken out of the poll to produce "actual" results??? This article is offensive in the extreme.

 

Real Conservative

Apr 29, 2009

Byron's right. The country's been going down hill since the whole Civil Rights Movement of the 1960's.

 

Snowman

Apr 29, 2009

So, wait, this means that the overall poll numbers don't actually represent the overall popularity? I'm not following -- is it because black people are not actually as prevalent in the overall population as in the poll sample? 'Cause if it was accurately controlled for sample size & composition, then the popularity is EXACTLY the popularity (less margin of error). Unless black people's opinion counts for less than white peoples. Which is functionally the truth but I'm surprised to see that stated so plainly.

 

jerkemy

Apr 29, 2009

my god, you people are blithering lunatics. Black voters finally getting a chance to vote for a black candidate after 200 years of white presidents is evidence of their racism? Well, like you idiots used to always say when one of your guys was wrecking the country, love it or leave it.

 

FLRealist

Apr 29, 2009

Congratulations - you've proven yourself to be a racist pig by implying black opinions shouldn't count when measuring Obama's popularity. You're disgusting and it's too bad anyone allowed this tripe to be published!

 

RuthAlice

Apr 29, 2009

So, York is basically arguing that the only valid measurement of Obama's popularity among the American people is one that excludes all blacks. Take two minutes, Byron, and think about what you wrote. You have stated in the public arena that you believe the opinions of blacks should be discounted in measuring American popular opinion. There's no way to talk your way out of that confession of absolute Jim Crow racism.

 

J. Williams

Apr 29, 2009

What a dumb story. Blacks often vote Democrat. Why? Ask O'Reilly and Limbaugh, the voices of the GOP. Or Bachmann, who, when the GOP voted in its first black chairman could be heard shamelessly yelling "You da' man! You da' man!" Yeah, I'd be in a rush to vote for that group.

 

Adolf H.

Apr 29, 2009

York sees what many of you don't: the bacillus of black opinion will destroy the healthy body of your republic. It must be exterminated for the good of the Fatherland.

 

ignatov

Apr 29, 2009

Would it kill this schvartze schmendrik to stop schlepping around to schmooze all the schlimazels like we’re a bunch of schnooks with schmootz-covered schmeckels already?

 

Apr 29, 2009

Maineguy: "I assume that you are not suggesting that black responses should be discounted because they come from a particular demographic." Well, the only other reason for him to say what he did was that he's stupid. Which is, to be honest, always a plausible explanation with most columnists. However, we can test. Did he ever write that Bush's policies were less popular, once the KKK/neo-Confederate segment was discounted?

 

Erick

Apr 29, 2009

It is a sign of the times that we conservatives have to endure this psychotic nitpicking as leftists engage in whatever attacks they can against their favorite targets, the "white male," in an effort to cast the targets as racist, homophobic or misognynist. All of this is done solely to rescue Messiah Obama's plummeting approval ratings. It will only get worse from here. Chin up, Byron!

 

Jeff In Ohio

Apr 29, 2009

"RayJ Apr 29, 2009 The importance of this polling will be seen at the mid-term elections. Black turnout will be much lower without Obama on the ballot. There will be enormous GOP gains in the house. McCain beat Obama among white voters. And they will be a much larger percentage of the total in the mid-terms." And when this doesn't happen will you people finally shut the fvck up?

 

Mike

Apr 29, 2009

Erick fixed: It is a sign of the times that we conservatives have to be psychotic.

 

Rollo

Apr 29, 2009

"...and his sky-high ratings among African-Americans make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they ACTUALLY are." (emphasis mine). W.T.F? Are you kidding me? Actual Opinion only rests with the white population? EPIC FAIL.

 

yeah right

Apr 29, 2009

If anyone honestly thinks there's no more racism, all they'd have to do is read the comments to this story for proof to the contrary. Oh, and the story, too, which belittles blacks' opinions of obama.

 

Adrienne in Oregon

Apr 29, 2009

So let me see if I have this right. If you subtract out the black vote because, well, let's not mince words their black and so don't count and subtract out white voters who approve of Obama and/or his policies, then Obama isn't all that popular after all. Have I got that right? I know this is going to come as something of a shock to some readers here but, well, black voters are American voters. Our opinions *ALSO* count. Saying "well, if you just ignore black people's opinions..." is, at best, problematic.

 

David

Apr 29, 2009

"his sky-high ratings among African-Americans make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are" Uhh, do African-Americans not count as people? What does "make some of his positions appear a bit more popular than they actually are" mean, exactly?

 

Drew

Apr 29, 2009

Comments like these are exactly why the Republican party is no longer viable on the national stage. Keep it up and watch yourselves become more and more irrelevant. Soon you'll be nothing but a bunch of crazy people yelling at yourselves in a bubble.

 

mantis

Apr 29, 2009

We understand you think blacks don't count, Mr. York. You did write for the National Review, after all. We are aware of all racist traditions.

 

LDKRN

Apr 29, 2009

"his sky-high ratings among African-Americans make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are." What's that supposed to mean, Byron? They aren't as popular with the people who count? The white guys, like you? Nice Freudian slip there, chump. Glad to know you don't think our African-American constituents count as part of the overall.

 

Alistair

Apr 29, 2009

Wow!! Some people have the nerve to talk MLK's I have a dream speech but never talked about other speeches he made like speaking out against the war. I bet some of you didn't know that he predicted that there will be a black president, but it appears that some white conservative don't want to except that, they're only focus on his dream speech and not the other speeches he made after the March on Washington.

 

MNproud

Apr 29, 2009

I am so sick of hearing about Racist Americans! Plus, all this "we need affirmative action in jobs and such"! If someone is more qualified then they should get the job. If the majority of blacks in this country would take just a tiny bit of responsibility, they would at least stay in high school! Everyone with a brain knows that to have a job that pays more than minimum wage you also need higher education! Maybe a way to get them to quit BITC**NG about being under employed and needing special treatment is to get off their AS*s, stop being criminal thugs, refuse welfare and take a lesson from your Hero Obama! He knew what they don't seem to! You have to work hard to get ahead! I am sick of PAYING for lazy gang thugs to get welfare from my tax dollars!

 

Kristin

Apr 29, 2009

Wow, this "his sky-high ratings among African-Americans make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are" is just astonishing. Someone isn't "actually" popular if African-Americans rate that person highly? Either you are incredibly, appallingly racist, or you have such a deeply felt sense of white normativity that you feel that what white people say, do, and believe are the only things that "actually" happen. Wow.

 

Jeff

Apr 29, 2009

This piece is ridiculous, Mr. York. Why do you write that "his sky-high ratings among African-Americans make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are"? Should only white people count in the poll? Or do you maybe want to count each black respondent as, say, 3/5 of a respondent?

 

Byron York's disembodied brain

Apr 29, 2009

I'm not a racist. I just don't care about black people.

 

Tom

Apr 29, 2009

I wonder how Byron York feels when he reads these comments. My guess is that he would be pretty embarrassed and would distance himself from them if asked about them on TV.

 

Hillary

Apr 29, 2009

You know, George Bush's policies had sky-high approvals amongst evangelicals, too. I don't remember Byron making the argument that that made George Bush "a bit more popular overall" that he actually was. Did you, Byron? If you didn't, why not? Because the evis are 'real Americans', and the blacks are just, well...black? 3/5ths of a person? You bigoted twerp.

 

White Guy with Opinion

Apr 29, 2009

Luckily for me, my opinion counts! So here it is: Regardless of what you call it, Mr. York does not value non-white opinions and assumes his readership doesn't either.

 

SBA

Apr 29, 2009

This is a very funny column. Maybe when polling blacks, they should only count them as 3/5ths of a person like originally in the US Constitution. But then what to do with Hispanics, Catholics, Jews, women, gays....?

 

Slim Tyranny

Apr 29, 2009

Heh, the comments here are awesome. If York's goal was to write a piece that would generate racist rants from conservative white Americans against their fellow black Americans, then Mission Accomplished! But take heart, America! We are experiencing a generational shift towards American principles, and the bigotry of the conservative movement becomes more and more irrelevant each year.

 

beejeez

Apr 29, 2009

Right on, Erick. It takes a lot of nerve for a black woman to stick up for whites unfairly characterized as racist, homophobic and, as you call it, "mysognynist." You are a black woman, right?

 

Dan

Apr 29, 2009

So, Byron, should we discount Christian Conservatives when we look at polls on Republicans? Or, white male voters? Or, is it just that you discount black voters as a general rule or just when gauging the support of a black President? Please do explain! I'd LOVE to hear your reasoning which appears to be at best, faulty, at worst, sinister. And you wonder why you are in the proverbial political desert.

 

Andy

Apr 29, 2009

For DWPittelli, you write: "On his 100th day in office, Barack Obama enjoys high job approval ratings, no matter what poll you consult." Actually Obama is the second least popular President of the last 40 years, when you compare like statistics (i.e., approval ratings polls taken just prior to the 100th day in office). What stats are you quoting exactly? The only ones TRYING to claim this are the Moonie Times -- and they got it backwards. Obama is second only to Reagan according to Gallup data, no matter what the Times claimed...

 

adamnvillani

Apr 29, 2009

Help me out here, Byron. Is the "actual" overall American opinion supposed to just exclude blacks, or all non-whites? Also, how does one figure in these calculations of "actual" Americans when determining the popularity of Michael Steele, Clarence Thomas, Alan Keyes, etc.?

 

Pope Ratzo

Apr 29, 2009

Why does the racial breakdown of our nation's citizens matter so much to Mr. York? Are some of you starting to understand why only 21 percent of Americans identify themselves as Republican? Does Mr York also believe that Dick Cheney or George Bush's abysmal approval ratings came because blacks didn't like them? This is one amazing column. Byron York's honest feeling that we should disregard the opinions of minorities in the USA gives us a clear insight into the heart of what the Republican Party has become. He has done us all a favor.

 

CJ

Apr 29, 2009

In other words, only the opinions of white people matter? And Republicans and so-called conservatives wonder why they get tagged as racists.

 

Laura M.

Apr 29, 2009

Mr. York, this is an incredible racist comment... so in your view the opinions of blacks should COUNT LESS than that of whites??? you sore losers are losing it, I swear...

 

username

Apr 29, 2009

Yes, let's subtract out what all the black people so that we can figure out what the REAL people mean. Can we subtract the hispanics, too? What about women? Their opinion shouldn't count, either!! Seriously. This post is disgusting.

 

tmkls

Apr 29, 2009

And of course, higher support among white voters made Bush's policies seem more popular than they really were.

 

MBL

Apr 29, 2009

Racism 101 - if you vote for a candidate because of his color, you are a racist. If you vote for a candidate because he intimates that he will favor your race over others, you are a racist (and so is he). If you vote for a candidate because of his color, in spite of his dangerous alliances and past beliefs; in spite of his half-truths and deceptions, you are a blind racist. If you vote for a candidate because of his color without researching his platform, you are an ignorant racist. **************************************** Obama isn't even remotely predominantly black. He's an opportunist - and a racist.

 

chuckling

Apr 29, 2009

Your argument that open racism is the key to the Republicans' return to electoral relevance is quite insightful. Perhaps you're right. I say go for it. Show'em who you really are! People will eat it up. Even the blacks will realize they were better off under Jim Crow. If not, you can ship them back to Africa. Either way, you'll be back in power where you belong. Dancing in the streets of Tehran by Christmas! I tell you whut.

 

Bruce Majors

Apr 29, 2009

Most Americans barely know what is going on in government. The government depends on this. That is how it taxes and regulates them a little here and a little there, in order to amass power and wealth for the tax predator ruling class. With most individual government policies being too small a burden, taken separately, to cause revolt. Citizens are taught to view the window dressing of electoral competition like a sports event or talent competition. That the average black voter is as oblivious as voters in general and supports the team that wears the color jersey they like is not surprising. That most black political and media leaders, like their white counterparts, are idiots and sycophants is obvious. Nary a one has even noticed that 10 trillion in debt and fiat currency inflation is happening, nor do they have any idea of what it means.

 

Sophie

Apr 29, 2009

I am saddened, but not surprised, that the racist undertone of this article has attracted such racist and vile comments. Just shows how underlying bigotry provokes such outrageous behavior in others. I'm sad you condone it, Byron.

 

Kathy J

Apr 29, 2009

Laura, I think Mr. York thinks African-Americans opinions count for about 3/5ths the opinions of white americans. I see no other reason for the premise of this article.

 

Disgusted

Apr 29, 2009

You and your commenters are racist. Should the black opinion not count? Byron York is scared of black people.

 

WOW!

Apr 29, 2009

For all those pie in the sky people who think white people are not racists, these comments form a reality check. Really disgusting. Worse than the very bad "actual" comment by BY who apparently thinks black people's opinions don't 'really' count. The biggest threat to our Union is ignorant, self-righteous white people and the Washington Examiner is apparently one of their gathering places. Shame.

 

LFC

Apr 29, 2009

Joan of Argghh! said... Racism is over except in the imaginations of the Media and the Politicians (but I repeat myself). The rest of us could care less about the color of someone's skin. Maybe you should read some of the comments, like: Uncle Joe's Patriotic Taxpayer: The majority of blacks pay no income tax. Alamo: Just an observation. When your personal financial support consists solely of a government provided check, the economy is never bad, it's simply irrelevant. David Kohen: In short, American blacks are overwhelmingly bigots. Chris Jones: The only conclusion one can reach is that blacks don't have a grasp of any of the issues. They think whatever Obama says or does is great because he shares the same skin color. The GOP voted to started referring to the Democratic Party as the "Democrat Socialist Party". I think we should refer to the Republican Party as the "Republican Cracker Party".

 

Seth Berkowitz

Apr 29, 2009

I don't know what's more impressive, a 68% overall approval rating or a 62% approval rating among white voters for a black president. A lot of commenters here are quick to say that his 96% approval rating among blacks is a result of racism. However, there is no reason to believe that more black people are racist than whites, so you would have to accept that he is approved of by 62% of white voters and that group includes some racists who would never approve of him. So... if you remove all racists, white and black, from the poll, what would you get... a 75% approval rating from both groups? Still pretty impressive.

 

Foxhunter

Apr 29, 2009

On his 100th day in office, George Bush enjoys high job approval ratings, no matter what poll you consult. But if a new survey by the New York Times is accurate, the president and some of his policies are significantly less popular with mainstream Americans than with Religious Right Americans, and his sky-high ratings among old, white, Southern residents make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are. **See how easy that was to sound just as stupid. Wait a minute....all of that was actually true!!

 

Foxhunter

Apr 29, 2009

Seth, please, this is a logic-free zone. Please obey the rules. kthxbai.

 

Apr 29, 2009

Seriously, reading these comments and the bizarre editorial that inspired them pretty much spells out just what is wrong with the modern GOP.

 

Bubs

Apr 29, 2009

Obama is racist because he refuses to buy truknutz for the prezmobile. Also, thank you Byron for pointing out how important the opinions of white people are to other white people. This was not known (to white people).

 

Josh

Apr 29, 2009

So either Byron York is suggesting that blacks are not as intelligent as whites in discerning how the president is doing, or he is suggesting that Obama would be less popular if only someone would engage in some sort of racial eugenics project. I kid, but the point remains. Though in all seriousness, this is what's known as being unintentionally offensive.

 

catnapping

Apr 29, 2009

Well then, York. I suppose when polling blacks, their responses should only count 3/5, yeah? One of your first responders, (nick was MaineGuy), nailed it, blowing York's racist twist of the numbers right outta the water: Unless blacks make up a disproportionately high percentage of the respondants to the poll, the result exactly reflects the overall popularity of the policy.

 

frazer

Apr 29, 2009

So, the only opinions which "actually" count are those of white people? Perhaps we could agree to let a black American's opinion count for 3/5 of each white American's?

 

Robert

Apr 29, 2009

Really??? This has got to be one of the more imbecilic pieces of commentary I've ever read. A translation of what you just posited: "those black people's opinion doesn't really count, I mean, they used to be slaves for crying out loud."

 

Josh Reiter

Apr 29, 2009

And this is why it is impossible to engage in any kind of serious debate about anything remotely related to race. One side invariably starts screaming "RACIST!" and demands that the opposition be silenced. If black voters support of Obama on their own more closely match the percentages of people in their entirety then it would in fact appear that black people are looking at the big picture and honestly weighing the consequences of the presidents actions. However, when a narrow subset of a statistic appears as a outlier from the median curve then it is not unacceptable to wonder what external circumstances are skewing the results. So, the onus is on black people then to explain, that if they are not in fact being homers for their own race, what pray tell could it be? Why a nearly unanimous 90% support versus the median %50 some-odd percent?

 

juicy

Apr 29, 2009

In my opinion I think the poll is trying to divide black and white people. Who thought it was a great idea to divide people that way. whoever did that poll is a right wing racist who should be ashame of him or herself. Everyone knows that black people are president obama strongest supporters.

 

Where are you getting these numbers?

Apr 29, 2009

It might be a good idea to link to the actual Times poll that you reference.

 

blaze

Apr 29, 2009

Of course, black people voted against George Bush by over 90% -- twice. That shows that blacks simply have more political savvy and moral sense. They were right about Bush and they're right about Obama.

 

dogfacegeorge

Apr 29, 2009

"And this is why it is impossible to engage in any kind of serious debate ... One side invariably starts screaming 'RACIST!' and demands that the opposition be silenced." I think you have it all wrong. Liberals don't want you conservatives to keep silent - we want you shout out your ignorant rants at every opportunity. And after every election, we want you to keep writing ponderous think pieces wondering what is wrong with the 96% of the black voters who voted against you.

 

mac@hotmail.com

Apr 29, 2009

Libs, your "racist" schtick isn't working anymore. You see, the new and accurate definition of "racist" is "a person who is winning an argument with a liberal." Blacks voted in overwhelming numbers for Obama because they see him as black. Period. If whites had voted in the same percentages for a white candidate JUST because of color you'd be wanting to write "racist America" on the sides of Mount Rushmore. You're really anxious to separate races and demonize white people. Be very careful about what you wish for. If that comes about, you'll not be happy with the outcome.

 

Karstan

Apr 29, 2009

seriously? he's not REALLY popular because some of the people who like him are black? so, their opinion doesn't count? clinton was also very popular at one point and a lot of his support came from women. did that not count either? or did it count because they were white?

 

Jonathan

Apr 29, 2009

"his sky-high ratings among African-Americans make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are." What, because Black people aren't real people or something? If he has a 70% approval rating, then 70% of people approve of him, no matter what color they are. I'm really sorry that Black people don't count the same as White people for you - that aspect of our constitution was struck down a long time ago.

 

John

Apr 29, 2009

That pesky 14th Amendment Byron, now if we could just get rid of that. Got any numbers for how the Jews break down Byron. Or how about women, it was a mistake giving them the vote lets face it. As the GOP collapses into a Mormon Dixie rump Byron wants has the answer for that pesky Obama's popularity.

 

Major Mel Funkshun

Apr 29, 2009

So this is why black people overwhelmingly support Michael Steele, right?

 

Mr. Dave

Apr 29, 2009

Wow Byron, you've got some backwards hillbilly rednecks reading your column. You must be proud.

 

Rico

Apr 29, 2009

Its' one thing to say that Obama's approval ratings are disproportionately high among blacks. That's not only reasonable, but it's true. It's also perfectly rational to say that there is an element of race preference in the African American community. In fact, it's fine to criticize that fact and explore the inherent backlash racism that we often see in that community. It is, on the other hand, invalid and even incendiary to say that black opinions skew the numbers...as if the African American vote were somehow overrepresented. They aren't...nor can they be dismissed. I mean seriously...what's your solution? Do we stop polling them?

 

TLS

Apr 29, 2009

Care you explain what you mean by your first paragraph? particularly, "...and his sky-high ratings among African-Americans make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are." I've read that three times and cannot understand what this might mean, except perhaps that you believe that the opinions of blacks should not be considered as a part of public opinion. Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought we decided that blacks were to be considered fully human back in the 1950's.

 

Rico

Apr 29, 2009

Its' one thing to say that Obama's approval ratings are disproportionately high among blacks. That's not only reasonable, but it's true. It's also perfectly rational to say that there is an element of race preference in the African American community. In fact, it's fine to criticize that fact and explore the inherent backlash racism that we often see in that community. It is, on the other hand, invalid and even incendiary to say that black opinions skew the numbers...as if the African American vote were somehow overrepresented. They aren't...nor can they be dismissed. I mean seriously...what's your solution? Do we stop polling them?

 

Alex

Apr 29, 2009

Let the record reflect the fact that for Byron York blacks don't count as real Americans.

 

Magic Dog

Apr 29, 2009

Byron, maybe we should count blacks as three-fifths of a voter.

 

Sean

Apr 29, 2009

What a weak essay. Obama is a democrat, democrats have always enjoyed huge support among minority communities, especially the black community. Now if you can't understand basic mathematics and percentages then you are a poorer man for it. Like you point out and quickly dismiss, blacks make up 13 percent of the population, while whites have a supermajority. So no matter how enthused, ginned up, and starry-eyed blacks get about obama it will in no way disproportionately affect the outcomes of general public polling regarding his popularity. There is just no way that blacks are being overrepresented in these polls. I mean c'mon man if you continue with his line of thinking we might have to get you back on liquid diets as you do not have enough gray matter to process intelligible thoughts or actions.

 

WhitePower!

Apr 29, 2009

Thanks Byron - it had to be said. If only those people weren't here...

 

seagoat

Apr 29, 2009

Hahahaha, do you realize how racist this column is? Are you saying that black peoples' opinions are being given some affirmative action weighting in the polls? Are you saying that black people aren't 'real' people? You are quite a ways up the creek, I'll enjoy your retraction/apology.

 

goppuptent

Apr 29, 2009

You just don't see many people wanting to re-instate Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3 of our Constitution. Well, except for those wearing pointy-headed white sheets, Limbaugh, Beck, O'Reilly, Hannity, Coulter, Ingraham and the ENTIRE fricking republican party! Byron - your idiotic article doesn't even deserve a three-fifths vote.

 

FillerCrowley

Apr 29, 2009

Yes! If only the 14th amendment didn't exist, we white people would not have to listen to those black statistics at all!

 

me

Apr 29, 2009

wow, but i thought blacks were the MINORITY in this country. so how can THEIR numbers skew polls in the way claimed here? hmmm...

 

FillerCrowley

Apr 29, 2009

Wait! Mr. York, I just though of something: if these black "people" were somehow counted less than real white Americans, Obama wouldn't be so popular! But what would be a good fraction? 1/2 seems a little too low (don't want the darkies rioting again lol), but 2/3 is way too high... Oh well, I'm sure you'll think of something.

 

Tiny

Apr 29, 2009

the level of racism in this article and on this board is disturbing: and I'm white and don't use the "R" word often. Why are Obama's policies "actually" less popular than the polls suggest unless black people aren't "actually" Americans whose opinions matter. White evangelicals overwhelmingly vote Republican, but we don't suggest excluding them from statistics to see what American's "actually" think, because they are Americans too. But black people are seen as just tribal, despite their long history of support for the Dems which is not irrational given the history of the parties for the last half century.

 

eatbees

Apr 29, 2009

So Byron your point is... ?

 

Beth in VA

Apr 29, 2009

Wow. So the "Actual Popularity" of Obama is supposed to be some reality we aren't seeing in the popularity numbers, because "Actual Popularity", doesn't include the reality of black opinion. Beautiful. York epitomizes what is wrong with the Republican party. True Conservatives should call York on this garbage.

 

Converse

Apr 29, 2009

The article is divisive and not ethical.

 

Dan

Apr 29, 2009

Byron York deserves to lose his job for this article. You should be ashamed, editors, for publishing it.

 

Blognoggle

Apr 29, 2009

You can always judge a writer by the quality of his readers, I always say. If your parents have read the comments under your tepid little piece of race baiting, they must be very proud of you, Mr. York.

 

raythewatchman

Apr 29, 2009

This article in insulting. It is saying basically that blacks mostly are for the president, therefore his popularity ratings really don't count for much...because, well, they are black folks, you know. Shameful.

 

walt

Apr 29, 2009

Forget the text of the editorial, just consider the numbers. While all will be well if Mr. Obama is the successful president we hope for, what happens if he's not? His performance will ultimately overcome his personality and the honeymoon effect that all new presidents enjoy. What then? We were clearly ready to elect a black president but reading the comments here I sure hope we've got a good one.

 

The Compromiser

Apr 29, 2009

I agree with Byron York. Black people are uniquely incapable of dissociating a politician's platform from his race. It is little wonder that Obama inherited such high approval ratings from President Alan Keyes. Clarence Thomas recently accepted a position on the NAACP's board of trustees for his efforts in being black. Thank goodness that White evangelicals and Mormons, on the other hand, are such even-handed, rational voters. It is but for them that America would somehow be ruled by minorities. Actually York, you're just a buffoon. /York's Career

 

david

Apr 29, 2009

Stop dumping this racist rag in my driveway everyday. When you make it sound like Obama is popular among blacks because he is black, while ignoring that Biden is more popular among blacks by 1 point than Obama, then you are not only wrong in making your racist case, you are duplicitous or ignorant in trying to make it. Keep your racist rag paper off my driveway (and I'm white by the way). Crock paper, crock writer.

 

laughing at you

Apr 29, 2009

memo to wingnuts: you lost! but please, don't get over it -- seeing you racist whiners carry on about socialism and deficits and the coming apocalypse makes obama's victory more satisfying every day! keep it up!

 

what an intellect Byron has

Apr 29, 2009

So black people don't count...not even 3/5ths huh? The truth is revealed you racist pig...what is your defense?

 

MoeLarryAndJesus

Apr 29, 2009

Byron York's next piece should just call for the return of slavery. That's where his head is really at. Dick Cheney would be first in line to buy slaves.

 

Mike in Shanghai

Apr 29, 2009

if the polling is done with a random sampling wouldn't the relatively small percentage of African-Americans in the overall US population mitigate their disproportionate high grades?

 

Republican scum

Apr 30, 2009

No! We're not racist! Not us! It's a total co-incidence that the one man we irrationally hate above all others is Black! I mean half Black! Total co-incidence, I say!

 

Dean

Apr 30, 2009

Oh, lovely, Mr. York. I can't help but pile on. I'll create the logical construct you've wasted a lot of words stating here. This is exactly what you're stating: Obama's high popularity numbers include the presence of African American opinion. From this we know that he's not as popular as the numbers indicate because the opinions of African Americans equal less than the opinions of non-African Americans. Racist much? Wow. :rolls eyes:

 

tnwoman

Apr 30, 2009

Byron York is on the wrong side of history, but he has very nice, thick and shiny hair.

 

skong222

Apr 30, 2009

Who really cares about poll numbers? I have only one vote and I can use it for any reason I want racist or not/ How will you know? People blindly followed Adolf Hitler just like they do Obama and it will all wash out when he

 

Stunned

Apr 30, 2009

Wow, guys. Do any of you READ these things before you post them? Way to make me never want to come to this site again. Unless I find a confederate flag t-shirt at a yard sale, or something, so I can fit in. While I'm here, though: that bit about Obama being second least popular president after the first 100 days? Just because people have quoted it doesn't make it true. To get that result, you need to compare a particular poll which applied to Obama with the normal approval poll for the other presidents. When you look at THAT result for everyone, Obama comes out highest since Carter. Sorry, but you'll have to let that one go. But it's okay, you can still be racist. Least until we pass that "mind control" bill we're working on... Socialism ho!

 

Byron York disgusts me

Apr 30, 2009

Just because you don't like black people doesn't mean their opinions should be stricken from all opinion polls.

 

Agreed!

Apr 30, 2009

From now on, we should only poll white americans. Only their opinions matter!!! Also.

 

Confused

Apr 30, 2009

Everyone realizes that he isn't saying that African-Americans opinions don't count or count less than whites, right? He mentioned that African-Americans make up 13% of the population. If they make up more than 13% of the people polled then the numbers are skewed. That isn't racist. That is a mathmatical fact. How are we, as a country, ever supposed to get past racism if we scream racist at everything? We are like the little boy that cried wolf. When we see racism, it should be stamped out. When we make something racist when it isn't, we just make the fight to end it that much more difficult.

 

Tane

Apr 30, 2009

Vadept - you nailed it. This kind of race break down was what infuriated me during the campaign. African-Americans have favored Democrats by 90% in most elections over the last 20 years and 99% of those candidates were white. To attribute their support to color is racist and condescending. 90% of McCain voters were white... the GOP will continue to lose elections by growing margins if they continue to denigrate minorities (they lost huge margins of Hispanics and Asians this election (the two fastest growing groups in the country). To single out African Americans as slanting his approval completely misses the largest of his constituencies (Hispanics and young voters). Obama won the youth by 30%. The GOP lost an entire generation! If they don't get a grip on that they will become obsolete.

 

SillyRatfacedGit

Apr 30, 2009

@skong222 Many Americans blindly followed Bush into an Iraq invasion for no apparent reason, sort of like the Germans followed Hitler into an invasion of Poland for no apparent reason. What exactly was your point?

 

Rico

Apr 30, 2009

"If they [blacks] make up more than 13% of the people polled then the numbers are skewed." - Confused Yes, you are right. If the polls did that, then the numbers would be skewed because of the racial divide on Obama's popularity. However, the article here doesn't assert that to be the case. In fact, it is not the case. Polls are weighted to be representative of all ethnicities and it is standard practice to match the proportions that exist nationally. Mr. York is saying that the properly proportioned polling of African Americans skews the numbers because he doesn't believe their views represent America. Of course, no one subset of America represents the whole country. That is why we poll everybody, including African Americans. I think the race card is overplayed, too. This, however, is one legitimate instance of racism (inadvertent though it may be) rearing it's head.

 

SillyRatfacedGit

Apr 30, 2009

The Washington Examiner: Scraping the bottom of the barrel and digging deeper.

 

SillyRatfacedGit

Apr 30, 2009

When is the Republican Party changing its name to The White Southern Christofascist Party?

 

Aris Katsaris

Apr 30, 2009

"Everyone realizes that he isn't saying that African-Americans opinions don't count or count less than whites, right?" Actually we all realize that this is exactly what he's saying. McCain's support was primarily white, and that was okay, because supposedly only white people are true Americans. But Obama gathered support from all racial groups, and that is bad because those fake-Americans don't *truly* matter as much as white people, their opinions aren't as valid as the opinion of white people, and so they skew the results. It's bad if Obama has 90% support among blacks and 50% support among whites. But it's not bad if McCain had 50% support among whites and only 10% among blacks. Because Republican candidates' failure to appeal outside their own candidate's race is supposedly proving DEMOCRAT voters to be racist.

 

fzhdhz

Apr 30, 2009

You judge the country in black and white and that is all you will see.

 

Theo

Apr 30, 2009

Was there a study on this in all the other (WHITE) presidencies? Perhaps we should go back through all the polls and votes, correcting the white favouring skewness of history. Otherwise this would just be special treatment to BLACKS.

 

Rick

Apr 30, 2009

Mr. York, do you actually read your opinions before publishing them?

 

David From UK

Apr 30, 2009

Dear Byron York. What point are you trying to make with this article. You seem to have cobbled together a whole bunch of statistics, which if broken down don't really mean anything as I'm sure you realize equal demographic proportions are used for popularity polls of this kind, so the overall result reflects in equal measure the view of the entire populace. The author of this article clearly want's a segregated view of the presidents support, when in actual fact the overall support is overwhelmingly positive. I, and I'm sure a lot of people who have read this article would like to know the reasoning behind the publishing of this article. As far as I can see it seems to be an attempt to create an undercurrent of racism and bigotry which I thought we were all beginning to feel was behind us. Please explain.

 

Black Guy

Apr 30, 2009

Since I am a black guy, I guess I only get three fifths of an opinion, but I wasn't aware we still discounted polling data by race. I find the opinion both illogical and borderline racist.

 

Jworth

Apr 30, 2009

""...his sky-high ratings among African-Americans make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are." Unless being black somehow makes your opinion less valid, this makes no sense

 

markus

Apr 30, 2009

Until the baby-boomer generation is gone and dead, we are going to be stuck with idiotic discussions like this. I'm sure you would have found GW Bush's white-support disproportionally high. Wait... maybe was his black-support disproportionally low? Byron York, are you really that stupid?!

 

Spotlight

Apr 30, 2009

News Flash: African-Americans are 5/5ths of a person in the U.S. now. They count in the popular vote AND in the "actual" popularity (or unpopularity) of things.

 

tony

Apr 30, 2009

Bigot much?

 

Apr 30, 2009

"Sherman McCoy Apr 29, 2009 I can see only two ways one could approve of the job The One (TM) has done in his first 100 days. Either 1) you do not know (or know but don't understand) what The One (TM) has been up to; or 2) you are an America hating Communist." I can see only two ways that anyone can NOT approve of the job the President of the United States has been doing: 1) You are a brainwashed lackey swallowing the right-wing lies whole and coming back for seconds. 2) You are a United States of America hating militant fundamentalist, who hates and despises our Freedoms and our Human Rights and wants everyone in our country that was founded on individual freedom to be forced to think and act just like you.

 

Buddy

Apr 30, 2009

Using your logic, Byron, let's compare the youth vote with the senior vote. Young people overwhelming voted for Obama; seniors almost exclusively supported McCain. Why? I guess that would be ageism. Fool me once, shame on me, can't get fooled again.

 

john

Apr 30, 2009

Basically, what Mr. York is saying is that the black approval should only count 3/5th as much.

 

Katie

Apr 30, 2009

OMG, you have GOT to be kidding. Someone thought this article was actually worth publishing?

 

GoAway!

Apr 30, 2009

Byron York is now a confirmed Bigot!

 

Warren Evens

Apr 30, 2009

Not one of these white haters take into account the untold number of years that Blacks voted for and supported bad White politicians. Yes, they did it in numbers that are equal to what their vote for Obama. Hey, White politicians have been screwing up the world for years, may be Obama might be a screw up too or he might just do a whole lot of good. We Black folks are just giving him the benefit of the doubt and there is nothing wrong with that.

 

Yes We Did...Cracka!

Apr 30, 2009

Remember...They hate Obama because he WON, not because he's Black!

 

MJ

Apr 30, 2009

Make a graph. This is miserable to read.

 

Apr 30, 2009

"Racism is over except in the imaginations of the Media and the Politicians (but I repeat myself)." Oh my holy god, you have your head in a hole or you just haven't been tuning in to much of the country. All over the place in upstate New York I hear people making frighteningly racist comments about the president, citing his blackness as a reason for the "horrible" things that he is going to do and has already done to them. They then go on to make statements about how happy they would be if something violent happened to the man. These are people who live in rural and semi-rural areas of the state and do not, I'm sure, the bulk of the urban population, white or black. Just because there aren't clear examples of racism when you go down to the grocery store doesn't mean that they're not out there. Joan of Argghh, what the hell do you mean racism doesn't exist in this country.

 

Franklin

Apr 30, 2009

Hmm, so the opinion of black people is irrelevant, and should be excluded from the polling results to see what "real" Americans think. Fascinating insight into the Republican mind.

 

Barbara

Apr 30, 2009

"But if a new survey by the New York Times is accurate, the president and some of his policies are significantly less popular with white Americans than with black Americans, and his sky-high ratings among African-Americans make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are." Is that because black opinions only count at 3/5 the persuasiveness of white opinions? Or what, exactly do you mean by the word "actually"?

 

waaa

Apr 30, 2009

What Now the republican shills want 5 black votes to equal 3 white votes. I can see millions of black votes now equaling a loss.

 

mixplix

Apr 30, 2009

Black pop. 13% take 80% = Others pop. 87% take 49% = Your math is way off.

 

BMac

Apr 30, 2009

You write in the first paragraph "his sky-high ratings among African-Americans make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are." You saying that black people's opinions shouldn't count towards "real" popularity? WTF?

 

OutWest

Apr 30, 2009

Racism is racism, regardless of who spews it. To think that any ethnicity is incapable of being racist is naive. I don't care what color our president's skin is, I care about his policy and vision for this country that I love. Consequently if you disagree with our sitting president you are labeled a racist. What happens to minorities that don't have a liberal view point? Progressive means you will agree with me or your character will be impuned with innuendo and falsehoods. Look in the mirror and treat people how you want to be treated regarless of who/what/where/when. Frankley we should throw out all politicians and clean house. They all work to improve their own careers instead of making hard choices for the betterment of our people.

 

Lies, Darned Lies, and Statistics

Apr 30, 2009

The outcry has spoken: This article was intellectually sloppy and poorly explained at best, racist at worst. The editors must do their job and demand higher journalistic standards for their published material. DON'T. BE. LAZY.

 

Jon Coulton

Apr 30, 2009

Wow. Just wow. You people astound me. I didn't realize I had stumbled upon a Klan meeting here.

 

Steve C

Apr 30, 2009

I think we'd all like York to expand upon what the word "actually" means here.

 

Steve C

Apr 30, 2009

sherardg, I am so sick of folks saying, "if you disagree with the President you are a racist" You've never actually heard this. I think you're lying. Nobody says this except imaginary people in conservatives' heads (imaginary people don't count). Or are you getting this from a chain email written in 16-point Arial?

 

VoiceOfReason

Apr 30, 2009

All one needs to do is reverse the races. If 95%+ of whites had voted for a white candidate over a black candidate, would there be any question of racism? Any question at all? Tribalism, racism, collectivism, its all the same old ignorant mess, regardless of the race that is perpetrating it.

 

The Other Steve C

Apr 30, 2009

So much for post-racial politics.

 

proud

Apr 30, 2009

Does anyone (sane) actually believe that if Barack O'bama (Barry Soetoro) were, just to pick a name, "Howard Stanley" a white man from Chicago, who was a early second term US senator, who's only previous job experience was as a community organizer, and who fraternized with a contingent of less than admirable pals throughout his formative years, let alone 20 years with an America bashing preacher as his self proclaimed "father figure" or better yet, "mentor" would have or could ever be elected POTUS....yeah right! no racism here

 

Hoodwinked

Apr 30, 2009

@Jon Coulton "Wow. Just wow. You people astound me. I didn't realize I had stumbled upon a Klan meeting here." Exactly, Jon. Exactly. The sad thing is - they're proud of their bigotry.

 

Dave2

Apr 30, 2009

"But if a new survey by the New York Times is accurate, the president and some of his policies are significantly less popular with white Americans than with black Americans, and his sky-high ratings among African-Americans make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are." Are you INSANE? What, does "actua[l]" popularity exclude black people? Seriously: WHAT?

 

Jen R

Apr 30, 2009

Steve C: Comic Sans, surely.

 

SpaceCat75

Apr 30, 2009

So the main takeaway from this column is black opinion should only count, say 3/5 of white opinion. Nice. You GOPers really are determined to marginalize yourself from the rest of the country as a backward, bigoted bunch of extremists, aren't you? Have you guys ever stopped to think that Obama's support is high among African Americans because he's a DEMOCRAT? You people are so obsessed with race that you didn't even think to ask that question, now did you? Pitiful.

 

SpaceCat75

Apr 30, 2009

So the main takeaway from this column is black opinion should only count, say 3/5 of white opinion. Nice. You GOPers really are determined to marginalize yourself from the rest of the country as a backward, bigoted bunch of extremists, aren't you? Have you guys ever stopped to think that Obama's support is high among African Americans because he's a DEMOCRAT? You people are so obsessed with race that you didn't even think to ask that question, now did you? Pitiful.

 

Ken S.

Apr 30, 2009

Obama's popularity among black people makes him seem more popular than he really is? So basically, York is saying that black people aren't really people? Why does York believe that the opiniuon of a black citizen is less meaningful than the opinion of a whbite citizen? I think we're starting to see more and more of the inherent, almost unconscious racism that's always been there just under the surface of the political right. to the poster called "Proud," Barack Obama didn't "pick" any name at all. Barack Hussein Obama is the one and only name he's ever had. He was never named Soetero. Those who have to resort to trying to demean him by calling him "Barry Soetero" are basically just exposing their own ignorance and lack of substance. Get use to it , buddy. he's going to be there until 2016. Barack Obama is going to be on money someday. You should count yourself as honored and privileged to be alive during his presidency.

 

Corey

Apr 30, 2009

You can't argue the generalization that blacks only support Obama because he's black; if that were a valid arguement, you could also argue that whites only *oppose* him because he's black. Also, the author of this article made a racist statement.

 

Lies, Darned Lies, and Statistics

Apr 30, 2009

Josh, in 2000, Al Gore garnered more than 90 percent of the black vote. Clinton and Kerry each got 85-88 percent of it. All of the candidates were white. Were they being homers for their own race back then? If Obama got 96%, and Gore got 92% then a whole 4 percent of the black vote swung for the black guy, after 8 years from Bush, a recession, the flooding of New Orleans, two military campaigns, and 9_11. Wow. What a story. 4 whole percentage points.

 

Mike

Apr 30, 2009

The only way you get the white population to 80% is if you count hispanics as whites. Here is the link from the census bureau where anybody can do the math. http://www.census.gov/popest/national/asrh/NC-EST2007-srh.html

 

steve

Apr 30, 2009

black votes now only count as 3/5th of a white vote. The poll number should even out now

 

Cognitive Dissonance

Apr 30, 2009

Lets conveniently ignore the masses of people who voted against Obama because he's black. I hear ignoring evidence that refutes your hypothesis is standard practice. Quick, everyone comment before he sticks his fingers in his ears and starts yelling that people who voted for Obama did it just for race and that he's not really a racist, he's just a practical and honest all-American citizen!

 

Angela

Apr 30, 2009

Don L: Is it lonely up there on your uninformed, hateful, all-too-transparent pedestal? Does spewing this kind of garbage help you feel a little less inadequate and intellectually flaccid?

 

medic914

Apr 30, 2009

maybe you idiots think that bkacks should only count as 3/5ths a person?

 

jacktrade

Apr 30, 2009

So what you're saying is the opinion of a black person does not count as much as a white person?

 

Apr 30, 2009

didn't marion berry get re-elected AFTER he got busted for crack cocaine?

 

Gerard

Apr 30, 2009

A lot of crackers here worried about all the taxes they pay. Pretty funny.

 

Gerard

Apr 30, 2009

A lot of crackers here worried about all the taxes they pay. Pretty funny.

 

are you friggin serious

Apr 30, 2009

"...his sky-high ratings among African-Americans make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are." Should African-American approval only count 3/5ths as much?

 

are_you_serious

Apr 30, 2009

"Obama's sky-high ratings among African-Americans make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are." WTF! Maybe African-American approval should only count 3/5ths as much...

 

Greg

Apr 30, 2009

Here in lies the Republicans problem. Racism. Obama is not that popular it's just those blacks like him so much. So the next time we do a popularity poll leave the blacks out because their opinion sucks. Excuse me Byron, blacks are part of the American populace and do count. You racist, stay classy.

 

Bill E Pilgrim

Apr 30, 2009

This reminds me of Mark Twain's saying famously about Wagner that his music "is better than it sounds". I'd suggest that this article is far less offensive than it seems when you read it. The writer was a right wing Republican so once you don't count those, the article contains nothing racist written by anyone at all!

 

Jacques Rigaut

Apr 30, 2009

So, what Byron's saying is "blacks aren't American?" or just "the opinions/desires/policy preferences of blacks don't matter?" Maybe Byron thinks blacks should count as 3/5 of a human to "right the balance." This guy gets paid for this?

 

eclectic_reader

Apr 30, 2009

His overall popularity is what it is. If you're going to discount the opinion of Blacks who support his policies because (for whatever reason) they like him personally, then you also have to discount the opinions of a certain subset of Whites who oppose his policies because (for whatever reason) they hate him personally. I'd guess that the Gobamas and the Nobamas nicely cancel each other out.

 

mbrysonb

Apr 30, 2009

"But if a new survey by the New York Times is accurate, the president and some of his policies are significantly less popular with white Americans than with black Americans, and his sky-high ratings among African-Americans make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are." The last claim is clearly wrong, and deserves rebuke: if the poll's respondents are racially proportionate and the poll is accurate, the overall popularity of Obama's positions and peformance are exactly as the poll says. Suggesting otherwise is a claim that the opinions of blacks somehow don't count. What's worse than this clumsy and presumably unintended bit of racism is the vile contents of many of the comments here. They are a disgrace. If they accurately reflect conservative sentiment, they are a tragedy.

 

Patrick

Apr 30, 2009

Also "On his 100th day in office, Barack Obama enjoys high job approval ratings, no matter what poll you consult. But if a new survey by the New York Times is accurate, the president and some of his policies are significantly less popular with white Americans than with black Americans, and his sky-high ratings among African-Americans make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are." is racist in that somehow Black opinions aren't....real?

 

Northern Pike

Apr 30, 2009

I suppose York's column is also an impassioned plea for photo ID and other voter suppression tactics. If we can't make African-Americans count as three-fifths citizens, then we can darned well make sure only three-fifths of them who want to vote can actually do so.

 

Charles

Apr 30, 2009

This article makes no sense. If the approval ratings for the President were determined from ratings on a numerical scale that people had to fill out, and the overall result was a mean, then you could say that Obama's policies are not as popular as they actually are. But they are not done that way. They are done by asking a favorable/unfavorable opinion from the correspondents. I don't think that York is a racist, as has been criticized extensively here. Rather, I think he is simply talking to his base, the conservatives and republicans. Since the black community, from his perception, will not vote for republicans, they are a lost cause. if you remove them from the total population, that gives you an idea of the approval ratings from the people that you CAN sway. This is a profoundly idiotic way of conceiving policy and precisely why the Republicans' tent is ever-decreasing.

 

Manatee

Apr 30, 2009

Junk science. Please disregard this article people, it only serves to further racial divides.

 

Are you kidding?

Apr 30, 2009

If we extend your reasoning, such as it is, we can say that most of president Bush's support shouldn't have counted, since most of his supporters were white. That would take his support far below the 25% or so that he managed to attract.

 

Joep

Apr 30, 2009

What a waste of print space. Of course President Obama would be more popular with African Americans. This is nothing new nor newsworthy. What is important is that 79% of whites have either a favorable opinion or no opinion of Obama. And that is buried in the article. Byron York isn't a racist for hiding this gem, he is a right wing political hack who has to gin up a controversy to hide what he doesn't want to admit. This is why the conservative movement is in so much trouble.

 

because it needs to be said again

Apr 30, 2009

Josh, in 2000, Al Gore garnered more than 90 percent of the black vote. Clinton and Kerry each got 85-88 percent of it. All of the candidates were white. Were they being homers for their own race back then? If Obama got 96%, and Gore got 92% then a whole 4 percent of the black vote swung for the black guy, after 8 years from Bush, a recession, the flooding of New Orleans, two military campaigns, and 9_11. Wow. What a story. 4 whole percentage points.

 

MosesZD

Apr 30, 2009

Your racism is showing. I don't think you meant for it to show. But it is there, like a "thousand points of light..."

 

Tom

Apr 30, 2009

Bryan you sir are a moron.

 

Ugh

Apr 30, 2009

No one's calling you a racist. They're calling you an idiot.

 

tycannon80@yahoo.com

Apr 30, 2009

Wow. You are a piece of work Byron. My opinions and approvals of Obama are only because he's black. Is there anything else you'd like to tell me about myself. I'm waiting for you to do a story about the scores of people that couldn't bring themselves to vote for Obama because he's black.

 

tycannon80@yahoo.com

Apr 30, 2009

Wow. You are a piece of work Byron. My opinions and approvals of Obama are only because he's black. Is there anything else you'd like to tell me about myself. I'm waiting for you to do a story about the scores of people that couldn't bring themselves to vote for Obama because he's black.

 

Marko

Apr 30, 2009

"sky-high ratings among African-Americans make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are." Black American's opinions count as much as White Americans opinions. I don't know why their choices aren't "actual" ones too. Do all those negative Conservative/Repubican opinions make Obama appear LESS popular than he "actually" is too?

 

Marko

Apr 30, 2009

"sky-high ratings among African-Americans make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are." Black American's opinions count as much as White Americans opinions. I don't know why their choices aren't "actual" ones too. Do all those negative Conservative/Repubican opinions make Obama appear LESS popular than he "actually" is too?

 

Wade

Apr 30, 2009

So, African Americans don't count as much as white people? What does this mean Byron? Are you reverting to the old "3/5's" thinking that black people are worth 3/5 of one full white person? You make me sick.

 

Keith Idol

Apr 30, 2009

If African Americans are racist and only vote for African Americans then why did Keyes, Steele, and Sharpton get only limited support during their various political campaigns? Why was it that Hillary Clinton started the election with a MAJORITY of African American support?

 

Harry O

Apr 30, 2009

Sir, your convoluted "opinion" constitutes rubbish. That is 3 fifths of my opinion. The rest you'll have to receive in person or via keyboard.

 

KeithIdolReborn

Apr 30, 2009

*Gets ready to become 3/5 of a person again*

 

Frank Sobotka

Apr 30, 2009

Wow, the racist comments on here take the breath away. Who knew there were so many mouth breathing troglodytes left on the planet?

 

Harry O

Apr 30, 2009

Wait, let me get this straight. Black people are racists. Others are not. Others are intelligent and see beyond the color of one's skin. So criticism of this president is not-race based. Are you sure? One of your commenters said this president supports infanticide. Do you agree? Did the POTUS say he supports infanticide? Have you ever voted for a politician who is the same race as you? Have you ever supported a candidate of a different race than you? Wait, you don't notice skin-color when it comes to supporting candidates. So the question is moot. But you do notice skin-color when it comes to analyzing polls and popularity. I guess it's a matter of superior intellect I wouldn't understand. How did you get this job?

 

Keith Idol

Apr 30, 2009

Maybe us African Americans should get our own polls so we don't skew the results for real America! Even though our polls would be seperate, I'm very very very sure they would nontheless be equal! Let's go back to a simpler time!

 

tas

Apr 30, 2009

Wow, I had no idea the racist could come swarming out like this. It's like a swarm of killer bees.

 

Roy Mustang

Apr 30, 2009

*Gets ready to become 3/5 of a person again* What are you now? 170 years old? Take your little guilt trip and shove it up your racist a@@.

 

Peter

Apr 30, 2009

The GOP has spent decades gerymandering voting districts to suppress the black vote and now you're surprised when they all come out a support a viable, black, democratic candidate. The Republicans need to make some recognizable consolations to minorities if they want to get back to their big tent ideals.

 

OvercomingRacism

Apr 30, 2009

As a Chinese spectator, I don't care whether Obama is black or white. The Chinese majority sees him as an intellectual man whose reasoning stretches way beyond his predecessor. We see his potential for greatness. We see hope for America once again. I read a lot of racists remarks here that clearly shows the racism that lingers in America. The cognitive shortcuts of stereotyping (leading to racism) were once useful evolutionary products serving the survival instincts of man. As long as we are conscious of this misfiring, humanity will evolve once again.

 

Clay B.

Apr 30, 2009

Byron York tries to defend himself from criticism by saying that he really only wanted to point out differences among different demographics in their approval ratings. Wow! As an extension of this, maybe there are lots of other hypotheses to investigate: 1. Obama's sky-high ratings among left-handed people make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are. 2. Obama's sky-high ratings among fondue aficionados make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are. Hmm. Even if it turned out that either of those statistics was right on, no one would write a moronic editorial along these lines. ..Because lefties, and fondue fans are, um, people, and their opinions need to be added up with everybody else's. Byron York clearly wants to sow division, and assumes white readers will view African-Americans as fundamentally different from themselves.

 

Apr 30, 2009

Uh Byron, you are a racist and that has nothing to do with anyone's political background. A blind man could see through your hatred and envy...so many jsut can't accept the fact that this man is brilliant and his skin color is not of a pale hue...I guess it makes some think badly about themselves...fragile sense of self, I say. So, my friend, get used to it or move because Obama is here to stay! And so many of us are so pleased!

 

Apr 30, 2009

Uh Byron, you are a racist and that has nothing to do with anyone's political background. A blind man could see through your hatred and envy...so many jsut can't accept the fact that this man is brilliant and his skin color is not of a pale hue...I guess it makes some think badly about themselves...fragile sense of self, I say. So, my friend, get used to it or move because Obama is here to stay! And so many of us are so pleased!

 

Fred

Apr 30, 2009

Of course, with the thick-headed contributions from the obvious bigots in here, racism has not significantly abated in the 21st Century. African-Americans have every justification to line-up behind Obama, if for nothing else than to demonstrate that someone can arise out of the swamp of institutionalized racism in the US. York ignorantly (or perhaps deliberately?) sustains 19th century stereotypes, and there's a cadre of like-minded idiots toeing the line. Shameful.

 

Fred

Apr 30, 2009

Of course, with the thick-headed contributions from the obvious bigots in here, racism has not significantly abated in the 21st Century. African-Americans have every justification to line-up behind Obama, if for nothing else than to demonstrate that someone can arise out of the swamp of institutionalized racism in the US. York ignorantly (or perhaps deliberately?) sustains 19th century stereotypes, and there's a cadre of like-minded idiots toeing the line. Shameful.

 

Jack

Apr 30, 2009

"A few commentators on the left are calling me a racist." But you are, Blanche, you are.

 

Dave

Apr 30, 2009

Anyone that voted for Obama because of the color of his skin is a racist by definition. Sadly most will feel good about themselves for having done so but will be personally hurt by his socialist policies and destruction of the American economy with ridiculous spending and the resulting high tax rates.

 

Dave

Apr 30, 2009

Anyone that voted for Obama because of the color of his skin is a racist by definition. Sadly most will feel good about themselves for having done so but will be personally hurt by his socialist policies and destruction of the American economy with ridiculous spending and the resulting high tax rates.

 

Andrew

Apr 30, 2009

I wholeheartedly agree black people are making Obama appear more popular than he REALLY is. Polls should do something so the black opinion doesn't skew the real results of polls, say count their opinion as only 3/5ths the value of other polled people. This way we can see the ACTUAL numbers behind Obama's socio-fascist policies.

 

jake

Apr 30, 2009

so how many white people didn't vote for him because he is black?

 

Conservationist

Apr 30, 2009

White people want their own president; black people want theirs. Liberals want their own president; conservatives want theirs. Time to break this country up!

 

Son of Bob

Apr 30, 2009

So much for Martin Luther King's "I Have A Dream" speech. Just look back on all the media stories we saw of black voters going to vote for the black candidate - proudly proclaiming that they were voting for him because they wanted to see the first black president - while the media approvingly framed their sentiments as "historic," in reality supporting or voting for someone based on the color of their skin is the very definition of racism.

 

j of lc

Apr 30, 2009

"Corey Apr 30, 2009 You can't argue the generalization that blacks only support Obama because he's black; if that were a valid arguement, you could also argue that whites only *oppose* him because he's black. Also, the author of this article made a racist statement." Sure we can and it easy to do so when almost 95% of blacks voted for Obama...how strange wouldn't you say.

 

Blue Demon

Apr 30, 2009

Racist

 

bdub

Apr 30, 2009

In fact, African Americans, women, Democrats, youngsters, non-Southerners, atheists, gays, Muslims, Jews, Latinos, Asians, union members, environmentalists, and independents are all making Obama seem a lot more popular than he really is overall.

 

Stephanie Dray

Apr 30, 2009

Is there something wrong with you that you would say, "his sky-high ratings among African-Americans make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are." Do African Americans count as only 2/3rds of a person or something?

 

Marko

Apr 30, 2009

I guess negative Conservative/Repubican opinions make Obama appear LESS popular than he "actually" is. So it all balances out.

 

Uncle_J

Apr 30, 2009

"sky-high ratings among African-Americans make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are." Subtle...

 

Nazgul35

Apr 30, 2009

This just in: Obama elected president by a large number of white people. Evangelical support of Republicans is OK, because IOKIYAR....

 

philip r stone

Apr 30, 2009

most black voters don't realize that of 16 obama ancestors 8 were white american,one great grand parent was black african, and 7 were from a clan of arab slave traders so why call him a black american president??

 

j

Apr 30, 2009

Seriously? Are all of you closet racists serious? I'll share some advice given to me by my "Republican Friends" during the Bush years: LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT! Our borders are open and the door swings both ways.

 

OCliffTxn

May 1, 2009

I love it when whites whine that blacks are racists. Of course the only way for this to be true is to change the definition of racism. Blacks can be and are prejudiced. Justifiably so when one reads the kind of tripe that is being spewed here. When whites whine about "black racism", they are doing nothing more than trying to portray themselves as the victims. Afterall, is their a bigger group of whiners and blamers than white Rep/cons?

 

OCliffTxn

May 1, 2009

All white people who voted for John McCain voted for him because he is white. Or you could say that they voted for him because he isn't black.

 

May 1, 2009

Byron York is a racist and should fired. How dare he suggest that black opinions implicitly count less than white opinions. Shame, shame, shame!

 

will redmond

May 1, 2009

This is the kind of implicit racism that black people are accustomed to and thick-headed, white Republicans just don't get. I'm sure Byron York thinks he isn't a racist. He just thinks that white people's opinions actually count, while black people's opinions don't count quite as much.

 

BillyBudd

May 1, 2009

So let me get this correct, in order to see what the numbers "actually are," we must not look at black opinion polls because black people's opinions aren't "actual." Geez, Byron. I'm surprised you're ok with them having the vote. Or will that be the subject of your next piece?

 

John G

May 1, 2009

Whether you agree with this authors comments or not, do we have to drag out the tired old "racist" label. There was a time in this country's history when a racist was equated with being a lynch-mob minded kkk activist. The evil associated with the label was real. Now, anyone who does not support the left-wing's agenda is branded a red-neck(I think that term is reseved for whites) "racist". Maybe we should introduce a little political correctness and use the term "bias" for those who's positions and opinions are not in perfect alignment with our own, and relegate the term "racist" as the "r word", reserved for those who would do violence to another because of the color of their skin?

 

Isaac

May 1, 2009

Boo-hoo lord Byron. I love the taste of racist tears. Such a fine whine you and your lot provide.

 

Isaac

May 1, 2009

John G "Now, anyone who does not support the left-wing's agenda is branded a red-neck(I think that term is reseved for whites) "racist"." My parents and in-laws don't support Obama or the left-wing's agenda and I would definitely not define any of them as racists. John G- it seems like you're pulling your point of view from some imaginary place. I mean- is what you said what you actually believe? Quite a few on the left have disagreed openly with Obama on a number of issues. They didn't get labeled as racists for it. I agree with you that the term racist can be incorrectly thrown around by fools and agenda-seekers, but in this case it's accurate. Race was the point of this article, wasn't it?

 

Maurice

May 1, 2009

These comments were obviously made by some one with a severe medical condition known as "recto-cranial inpactation". This causes a low oxygen levels in blood, leading to another condition, verbal diharria.

 

John G

May 1, 2009

Isaac, that is my point. We all know how empowering the "racist" label has been. There are many on the left that are equating kkk activist to people that question the motives of Black voters. Many of those black voters that seemingly, during the primaries, turned their backs on one of their former champions for their causes (I'm talking Hillary Clinton here), branded them racist (or Bill a racist anyway), and voted for different candidate seemly running on the same platform, but with skin color the same as their own. In otherwords, if you are black or white, it ok to continue promoting black causes today in the interest of equality and justice, but if you promote white interests because your family and your children are white it is racist or in the case of a black person who questions the left, you're an Uncle Tom.

 

Joe Cano

May 1, 2009

Irrespective of how comforting some may find it to believe otherwise, I can guarantee you that if Obama was white and doing what he has been doing, I would be in the streets protesting just like I am now.

 

John G

May 1, 2009

A lot of the independent vote for Obama was from people that were just sick of the Republicans platform and all of the corruption and failure that accompanied it. It was not an endorsement of extreme liberal doctrines and policies. All of you chattering left-wing monkeys should remember there is another election in 3 and 1/2 years. Many of us will not be fooled the second time. Have your fun now, it will be you who will be boo hooing and whining soon.

 

bob

May 1, 2009

We conservative Republicans have always known the truth that blacks are 3/5th human. So Hussein's support among his hommies should count less than the support he gets from real Americans. Thanks for your great insight into this, Mr York. Keep up the good work of rebuilding and purifying our Republican party.

 

Desert Diva

May 1, 2009

So happy to live out in Az away from the intellectually deprived. You know who you are. Que lastima!

 

Desert Diva

May 1, 2009

So happy to live out in Az away from the intellectually deprived. You know who you are. Que lastima!

 

Rob

May 1, 2009

Byron makes a great point. Being called a racist is nothing new, of course. It's a shame that in the United States of America a person can't discuss race witout being called a racist. Obama gets a pass in the liberal media. What are fair-minded people supposed to think when a journalistic icon like Chris Matthews gets a "thrill up his leg" when reporting about Obama? Does a white person supporting John McCain for president over Obama make them a racist? Does a black person supporting Obama over McCain make them a racist? Malcom X spoke about the white man getting rid of the racism that lives in his heart. He could have said the same about black people. As human beings we are all flawed: black, white, yellow, red, brown. The statistics York quotes in this piece speak for themselves.

 

lrnzp

May 1, 2009

White people have been in charge of this country forever. Imagine for one sec that it was the other way around and "Blacks" had been running this country from the begining. In 2009 a "White" president was appointed. Would you not be happy simply because of the color of his/her skin? Truthfully. Would you not see it as some sort of victory for the "White People"...

 

Barely About Barack

May 1, 2009

philip r stone, you're right. He's the Blackest President we've ever had. How many past ones had a black parent?

 

Arla

May 1, 2009

I wonder what John McCain's approval numbers would look like if you discount Southern White Inbred Evangelicals?

 

May 1, 2009

lrnzp, I'm white and I voted for Obama. I was happy for black children around the world that now have such a powerful role model. But I voted for Obama because I wanted the war in Iraq ended and Washington and Wall Street cleaned up. And I will never give Obama a pass on any issue just because he is black. I don't do it with white politicians and I will hold Obama to those same personal the same standards. And I expect my fellow black citizens to do the same. But it seems some on this site would brand me a racist for such attitudes, and that sickens and saddens me. If Obama doesn't drastically reduce the military budget that ok, he's black, but if a white President doesn't challenge the military/industrial complex he's part of the white conspiracy against the left. No, I'll never buy it.

 

EddieD_Boston

May 1, 2009

50% of black men don't work. Fact. No, their opinions shouldn't count. A HUGE % of black women are on public assistance. 71% of black children born last year are fatherless meaning my tax dollars pay to raise them. Fact. So black women's opinions don't count either. That's not racism it's realism.

 

Jim

May 3, 2009

Is there a formula to discover how something popular with African-Americans isn't actually popular? Would it be 3/5 popular? Idiot.

 

colt

May 3, 2009

Some of you have a serious problems. It seems the biggest controversy here is the idiots believe there is no racism and the morons believe that there is racism but it is confined to black americans. EddieD_Boston, I normally don't respond to mental midgits that pull poll numbers out of thier ars and call them facts (Hannity, Limpballs, ORielly,Dobbs,etc...), but I it was staring me in the face while I wrote the first of this post. EddieD_Boston, Fact: You were born fatherless. Fact: You don't have a job Fact: You've lived on public assistance all your life Fact: You have never paid one dime in taxes. Your opinions don't count. See, it's easy to pull facts out of your ars. Anybody can do it. Dimwit

 

tk63

May 3, 2009

Don L. has it exactly right.

 

Seth

May 7, 2009

"Wahhh, Wahh, I said something so obviously racist, but now I am crying because people far more intelligent, better looking, with bigger balls and/or spine than me called me out because I am too dumb to realize why what I said was so stupid. Wahh Wahh. Oh yeah, and everything I say is becoming more irrevlevant everyday and I don't know why, Wahhh Wahhh" The only way you get attention is to be risque, how original, oh yeah, imbaugh called, he wants his schtick back

 

May 7, 2009

What exactly does it mean when you say that his high poll ratings among African Americans make his policies seem "more popular overall than they really are"? Since when are African Americans excluded from the "population overall"?

 

3/5th of a Man

May 7, 2009

lol. I am a Black American. I probably pay more income taxes than most of the people who made stupid comments on this website. So because I like Obama and I am black my opinion of the man shouldn't be counted. lol That's funny. My vote is less than a White person or I guess I am not or never can be an American citizen? Lol Wow. I can’t even get mad at these comments or this article. You people are sick!!!!!!!!!! lolu people are crazy!!!!!! lol

 

ADRIAN

May 8, 2009

The good news is that President Obama will have four to eight years to do what he needs to do. Race, it is what is is. Any educated person will tell you the truth about race in America. The good news is that after graduating with honors from Harvard University Law School, who is more qualified thand President Obama to talk about race?

 

ADRIAN

May 8, 2009

The good news is that President Obama will have four to eight years to do what he needs to do. Race, it is what is is. Any educated person will tell you the truth about race in America. The good news is that after graduating with honors from Harvard University Law School, who is more qualified thand President Obama to talk about race?

 

Intelligence Report

May 9, 2009

Blacks will always see black..Look at the mess in Detroit..Ran by blacks for many years now and ran into the dirt..all they see is black..92% of blacks are racist..and oh by the way..Obama is not black...he is half white..

 

Intelligence Report

May 9, 2009

Obama is not qualified to talk about anything or run anything..and who said he graduated with honors from Harvard?...His records are sealed because he has spent almost $1 Million dollars keeping his records sealed..WHY is that?..Because there is alot of doubt that he is even a natural born citizen of this country..He WILL NOT PRODUCE HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE...THERE ARE MANY LAWSUITS TO MAKE HIM DO IT..AND TRUST ME THEY WILL..HONORS??..I DOUBT IT.

 

gommygoomy

May 9, 2009

Why is this a story? There's nothing 'deep' about these results. The WHITES don't like his MARXIST, SOCIALIST ways. And the BLACKS don't care WHAT he does. He could kick a baby, off the stage, and they would love him, for it. It's no more complicated than that.

 

Ohiolad

May 9, 2009

The article would have been much more useful if it had compared blacks’ supports for Obama to their support for Clinton 100 days after Clinton’s inauguration. Is their support for Obama that much greater than for Clinton possibly because of Obama’s self-identification as a black person, or was Clinton’s support at the same high level because blacks tend to vote overwhelmingly Democratic, much more than any other demographic group?

 

Babs

May 11, 2009

Don 1, STFU, what about when blacks were voting for all white Presidents, what was being said then? NOTHING.

 

TJ

May 13, 2009

Just a thought but Republicans are overwhelmingly white and that was true before Obama. What does that say about the GOP? Why doesn't this article make a distinction between Democrats and Republicans on Obama's popularity? I would argue that unless you compare white Democrats to black democrats this article is meaningless. It is whites in the GOP who are skewing the numbers here. Of course he is not popular with most of the whites of the GOP just like George Bush was not popular with all the most of the whites and blacks and Latinos and Asians of the Democratic party. Bill Clinton was just as popular among blacks as Obama. Sorry thanks for playing.

 

Just a reader

May 14, 2009

So, were you trying to imply that black Americans aren't "real" Americans or was it just sloppy writing?

 

WE!

May 15, 2009

Byron York's column reminds me of a recent conversation I overheard. False dichotomies and national and personal identity issues figure in both. HE: I'm an American, not an Hispanic. SHE: I'm an American and a woman and a Jew and an Hispanic.

 

Brian York

May 16, 2009

Make you think about "real Americans" http://contexts.org/socimages/2009/05/14/excluding-blacks-from-the-national-collective/

 

anton

Jun 6, 2009

I think that the americans voted for a good president even when he is Black its the idealism that counts not for he is black or white,actually the white population started the war and most europians,even george bush and bill clinton and angela merkel with prince charles they wanted the war to conclude with theyre politics but now its gone backwards actually the swiss did this but they couldnt say something about it i got alot of proof that they did this for using america and george bush.But america must stand for theyre right obama is the right person for it.

 

Who cares about color?

Jun 30, 2009

Some of you guys are just racist. Period. And it so easy to tell who's black and who's white. So stop calling the kettle black, no pun intended:-)

 

Jul 9, 2009

Obama is half black - not all black! if in the future, a 100% black man becomes president, then all the blacks will proclaim him the truely first black president! And Obama will then be known as the first bi-racial president. Mark my words.

 

phil

Jul 9, 2009

Obama is half black - not all black! if in the future, a 100% black man becomes president, then all the blacks will proclaim him the truely first black president! And Obama will then be known as the first bi-racial president. Mark my words.

 

Terri

Jul 15, 2009

Come on people...bickering back and forth over color based approval ratings! Don't you see it doesn't matter?! You should use that anger where it belongs. We are in the position we are in in this country because of the affluent people in this society taking more than they deserved and at our expense. They are laughing all the was to the bank and these things only distract us from what is really happening and why we are all struggling. They aren't worried about skin color- the only color that has any relevance to them is green. All of our livilihoods are at risk and your skin color, the other guys skin color or even the presidents skin color has nothing to do with it.

 

NANCY

Jul 20, 2009

I WALKED WITH DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING WHEN I WAS 15,I AM PURPLE,BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU DR. KING WOULD NOT APPROVE PRESIDENTS POLICIES! PRES. OBAMA IS ONLY FOR HIMSELF AND NOT FOR ANY OF US!

 

jackie cox

Aug 1, 2009

it only makes sense the afro community would like things the way they are, they get first debs on the jobs if they want to work, or get a proactive socialworker or social security decision maker. Plus they have something going on up in under there with ACORN, Whats up with all the bussing around on election day, and the all black brand new polling booths, who submitt the list of names in the phone book as having registered and voted. The race card is beginning to be a bit torn and crumpled up from all its uses, not to worry though its like the votes you can make as many as you can get your hands on, like the crack baby permits, and the slowlearner permits, properly coached by affirmative action they are worth 1200 a month per child, and the slow learner can be extended into childhood, Its all good up in under the hood

 

jackie cox

Aug 1, 2009

the colour of yer skin is the most insignificant thing that makes you whatever you are, but all you do is talk about black and white, pretending to be brown like the indians of america, trying to get us to fight whitey---hey---its---not---gonna---happen. I hope your children finally figure it out and smother you with a pillow, or something, when your too old to kick them around anymore

 

Chandra

Aug 11, 2009

people did vote for Obama based on race but others of all races voted for him because of believe in his abilities & hope.I am white and i still support President Obama & wish he would pull rank and stop lies & plans to stop progrss of all Americans cause they are mad that Obama won.He is our president. Most people voted for him.Get over it & quit trying to interfere with the Presidential plans.I hope he catches people & groups that are plotting against him and has them incarcerated.

 

Amers

Aug 11, 2009

"What exactly does it mean when you say that his high poll ratings among African Americans make his policies seem "more popular overall than they really are"? Since when are African Americans excluded from the "population overall"?"

In the article it is stated that 80% of Americans are white and 13% are black. The high poll ratings among African Americans make his policies seem "more popular overall than they really are" because they only account for 13% of the 100% of American citizens (with the 80% or 4/5 of the population being white and more unhappy than happy with Obama's policies).

 

WPower

Aug 27, 2009

its time to send the blacks back to africa

 

I will post on here for ever!

Aug 27, 2009

you can never take my words away

it is time to take the blacks outta america and send them back to africa along with obama

 

TyroneBKool

Sep 4, 2009

Barack Obey-me is NOT a typical African American. First of all, his father came here voluntarily to live the good life. My ancestors came here in chains to work the fields for nothing. His mother is Caucasian and an avowed atheist. Mine is a God fearing Christian who was prohibited by society from dating out of her race. His parents traveled freely around the world looking for that right place. Mine were stuck in a tenement in Detroit despite working long hours. The President and I have NOTHING in common but the color of our skin...and his is questionable.

 

Blupup8

Sep 16, 2009

THE WHITE HOUSE SHOULD HAVE A WHITE MAN IN IT, not a reptilian maskerading as a black man. Barrack Obama bin Laden is a master manipulator and the most evil man in public office in the world today. He uses mind control techniques to brainwash people whenever he speaks. Don't confuse the race issue with the real issue of the NEW WORLD ORDER.

 

Left to their own devices

Nov 24, 2009

Look at what blacks have accomplished for themselves in Africa - Warring tibal mentality that rests on stealing and murdering versus hard work and cooperation - Can you say Detroit, New Orleans and a city coming to a theatre near you - They will suck the Treasury dry by breeding in numbers to elect the next Obama

 

iscount Christian Louboutin Sandals

Dec 5, 2009

Christian Louboutin
Christian Louboutin Shoes
discount Christian Louboutin Boots
Christian Louboutin Pumps
cheap Christian Louboutin Boots
miu miu handbags

 

Abercrombie

Dec 14, 2009

Online forums ed hardy are another Ed Hardy Clothing way of Cheap Ed Hardy finding great Ed Hardy Sale 50’s prom Discount Ed Hardy dress online. Cheap Ed Hardy Clothing You can Ed Hardy Clothing Sale find the right dress Discount Ed Hardy Clothing

 

links of london

Dec 21, 2009

links of london links of london
links london links london
links of london jewellery links of london jewellery
links of london sale links of london sale

 

ugg sale

Dec 21, 2009

ugg sale ugg sale ugg sale

 

nike aa

Dec 28, 2009

Nike Kobe IV
Lebron James Shoes
Lebron James Shoes
nike basketball shoes
air max 2009
North Face Jacket

 

timberland aa

Dec 28, 2009

New Balance 1500
High Dunk SB
Cheap North Face
Shox Dream Shoes
Allen Iverson Shoes
Carmelo Anthony Shoes

 

uggood aa

Dec 28, 2009

ugg shoes
cheap ugg boots
uggs shoes
bailey button uggs
ugg classic
North Face

 

kissnlf aa

Dec 28, 2009

authentic football jerseys
authentic jerseys
authentic nfl jerseys
authentic nhl jerseys
buy nfl jerseys
Cheap North Face Jacket

 

ugg aa

Dec 28, 2009

UGG Classic Mini
UGG クラシックミニ
UGG Classic Tall
UGG クラシックトール
UGG Classic Short
North Face Jacket

 

Nike hh

Dec 28, 2009

ggggxcgAir Max 360
kobe bryant shoes
Nike Kobe 4
Nike Kobe 5
Air Max 90
Air Max 1
North Face Jacket
North Face

 

ugg hh

Dec 28, 2009

uggaustralia
ugg mini black
discount Ugg
ugg mini
cheap ugg boots
ugg classic mini boots
mini uggs
North Face Jacket
North Face

 

uggク hh

Dec 28, 2009

UGG クラシックトール
UGG Classic Short
UGG クラシックショート
UGG Classic Cardy
UGGクラシックキャディ
UGG ニットブーツ

 

timberland hh

Dec 28, 2009

Nike Kobe IV
Lebron James Shoes
North Face Jacket

 

football hh

Dec 28, 2009

authentic football jerseys
authentic jerseys
authentic nfl jerseys
authentic nhl jerseys
buy nfl jerseys
cheap football jerseys

 

football jerseys rr

Dec 28, 2009

authentic football jerseys
authentic jerseys
authentic nfl jerseys
authentic nhl jerseys
buy nfl jerseys
cheap football jerseys

 

uggood rr

Dec 28, 2009

ugg shoes
cheap ugg boots
uggs shoes
bailey button uggs
ugg classicNorth Face Jacket
North Face
The North Face
Discount North Face

 

Timberland rr

Dec 28, 2009

Timberland Womens Shoes
timberland leather
timberland size
timberlands for kids
timberland stores
Timberland boots
Timberland For Sale
timberland mary jane
North Face Jacket
North Face
The North Face
Discount North Face
Cheap North Face Jacket
timberland apparel

 

Nike rr

Dec 28, 2009

Nike max shoes
Lebron James Shoes
North Face Jacket
North Face
The North Face
Discount North Face
Cheap North Face Jacket
Lebron James Shoes
nike basketball shoes

 

UGG ブーrr

Dec 28, 2009

UGG Classic Mini
UGG クラシックミニ
UGG Classic Tall
UGG クラシックトール
UGG Classic Short
UGG クラシックショートNorth Face Jacket
North Face
The North Face
Discount North Face

 

Nike hh

Dec 28, 2009

ggggxcgAir Max 360
kobe bryant shoes
Nike Kobe 4
Nike Kobe 5
Air Max 90
Air Max 1
North Face Jacket
North Face

 

ugg hh

Dec 28, 2009

uggaustralia
ugg mini black
discount Ugg
ugg mini
cheap ugg boots
ugg classic mini boots
mini uggs
North Face Jacket
North Face

 

uggク hh

Dec 28, 2009

UGG クラシックトール
UGG Classic Short
UGG クラシックショート
UGG Classic Cardy
UGGクラシックキャディ
UGG ニットブーツ

 

timberland hh

Dec 28, 2009

Nike Kobe IV
Lebron James Shoes
North Face Jacket

 

football hh

Dec 28, 2009

authentic football jerseys
authentic jerseys
authentic nfl jerseys
authentic nhl jerseys
buy nfl jerseys
cheap football jerseys

 

omar lee

Dec 28, 2009

obama is not black but white inside that hate it's skin complection .
he's not a leader but a money chaser .the government is going to crash before the truth is shown blacks are prosecuted to die like christ the lord ,color always matter when it comes to control . blacks is not name for a slave but the life of a freeman.

 

Omar lee

Dec 28, 2009

on 2010 there will be war , fights of racial words ,obama promises and changes ,prison killing rates , iraq war attack, bombs in the cities just watch and see things will get worst then before bye bye

 

as

Dec 30, 2009

If you are looking for a watch to buy,omega replica watches come to solve the problem of the not-so-rich category of people. An omega replica watch can be purchased by many of us, due to the accessible price it can have. A replica replica omega will always cost only a few hundred dollars.

 

fdr

Dec 30, 2009

This phenomenomChina Wholesale is typified by mobile phonethe rise ofbusiness. Incredible range of products available with “Low Price and High Quality” not only reaches directly to their target clients worldwide but also ensures that cheap cell phones wholesale from China means margins you cannot find elsewhere and cell phonesChina Wholesale will skyroket your profits.cosplay costumes

 

bozozo

Jan 2, 2010

its like the votes you can make as many as you can get your hands on, like the crack baby permits, and the slowlearner permits, properly coached by affirmative action they are worth 1200 a month per child, and the slow learner can be extended into childhood, Its all good up in under the hood.Dissertation || Buy Essay || Thesis || Buy Assignment || A Level Coursework

 

Jan 11, 2010

projeksiyon
plazma kiralama
Projeksiyon Kiralama
Led ekran Kiralama
Simultane

 

Astaga.com Portal Lifestyle On The Net

Jan 12, 2010

however it's still a good progress for american when black and white on one vote..Astaga.com Portal Lifestyle On The Net:Let's Think Out Of The Box

 

maggie mccarthy

Feb 1, 2010

I have read all of the comments above, and have read similar ones on other Websites. Do most of you offere your opinions on Obama or do you actually research as a basis for forming your opinions. I have often asked commentors if they researched statements in order to form an opinion, and the usual response to this question is: "I do not need to do research to form an opinion; if I researched the topic, that would be the facts. Facts have no place in my forming an opinion." Any thought on this?

 


Post a comment


Email:
(This will not be displayed or shared. Privacy Policy)

Your Name:

Comment:




Local

Another snowball fight planned for Dupont Circle

The Official Dupont Circle Snowball Fight facebook fanpage has over 6,000 fans now, and it looks as if snowed in DC'ers will return for another battle. Full story

Politics

GOP winning war over Miranda rights for terrorists

Even as the administration defends its decision to grant accused Detroit bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab the right to remain silent, the president himself is hinting that things might be done differently in the future. Full story

Local

D.C. region braces for up to 20 more inches of snow

The National Weather Service has the entire D.C. metro area, from Prince William County north, under a winter storm warning for 10 to 20 inches of snow. Forecasters have had their eyes on this storm for days, but the projected snow totals were bumped up late Monday. Full story