By: Hugh Hewitt
Reader Comments
Pragmtist
May 11, 2009
As California goes, so goes the country. And not a minute too soon. Public employees unions will get us in more financial trouble than any other concept going, except maybe, socialism. Amen.
John Galt
May 11, 2009
It's time for "proposition 13, part two". Roll back state spending to $100B/year [ 2004 level ] Limit growth to 2%/year.
Iben Hakenluggis
May 11, 2009
Blame the Unions ... And the idiots "we" elected and their hollow promises. Say good bye Kalifornia!
Grumpy Old Man
May 11, 2009
Why not a real bankruptcy, as opposed to a quasi-bankruptcy. Orange County did it, and the world didn't end.
Resolute
May 11, 2009
Californians have created this mess that they're in by not being willing to deal with financial realities. They bought this blarney from political con men that they could make California into some sort of a European welfare state without having to pay for it. For years and years, California pols have enacted more workplace and environmental regulations while taxing and spending without abandon. Businesses fled this anti-business state, and, with that, people lost their jobs --- many of who voted for the same Californian pols who created the conditions that cost them their jobs. But, seemingly, California has never been a state to study the history of others that have tried the same failed policies, and this state helped elect a president who wants to Californize the rest of America. We can only look at California, and see that this is where America is headed, and it doesn't look good.
K
May 11, 2009
People forget if voters block higher taxes the courts and the state will find some way of imposing them anyway. And strange vote counts will become quite common as the ingrown political classes grow more frustrated. The CA GOP in the legislature has mostly followed a sensible course. But they have no power. I hope these measures are rejected. That won't limit the rather mad CA government for long. But why make it easier for them?
JCH
May 11, 2009
Die, Democrat "Baja Norte"........Die!
Enough is Enough
May 11, 2009
I also believe that the liberal judiciary will halt and reverse any progress made by voters to bring fiscal sanity to our state. However, it is nice to dream about a state government which will stop over promising unlimited benefits and acting as a magnet to everyone from here and abroad who refuse to support themselves. California can once again lead the nation. VOTE NO on all California props.
greg
May 11, 2009
Arnold is a bump and what can one expect, he's married to commie Kennedy! He's probably going to be recalled!
Ursus
May 11, 2009
Actually Arnold tried to reshape the state govt, starting with a series of referendums in 2005, but they were all voted down and so he was forced to work from within. After a couple of years of that ... he was fried.
TParty4USA
May 11, 2009
Oh, oh. If Californians turn down any more tax increases, they may find their state in bancruptcy with Obama turning over 55% of the state budget to unions. Heck, on the pretense of protecting the "investment" of federal tax money to bail out California, Obama will no doubt demand the resignation of the Terminator Governor and replace him with some Obama-supporting D.C. tax cheat to ruin, or rather run, the state. There is precedent for such a scenario.
Tim
May 11, 2009
The people, in California and the nation at large, are clearly fed up. But, the game is stacked in favor of the bureaucracy. This is what the Tea Party movement is all about! Most of us realize that government doesn't produce anything but expense. Democratic demagoguery and voter fraud keep government expanding.
Kevin Murphy
May 11, 2009
I fully expect the state Supreme Court to nullify Prop 13 as a "Constitutional revision", allowing all manner of tax hikes on the upper middle class. The state is ungovernable. It needs to be split into about 4 states: LA, SF, San Joaquin and South Oregon. Hopefully we can stuff all the loons into SF.
AJGOLF
May 11, 2009
Spot on as usual!
oso2you
May 11, 2009
Police and fire retirement benefits are not the cause of Cal. fiscal woes. We grant generous benefits to them in recognition of the difficult job they do. Being a police officer or firefighter takes a tremendous toll over a career spanning 35 yrs. and, in my opinion, they deserve what they get.
Jimmy T.
May 11, 2009
Somehow I fail to feel sorry for Californians. They keep electing these legislators who pass these rediculous laws making it almost impossible to do business. They have the toughest emission standards in the country and yet there's still smog in LA. Look at the group they send to represent them in Congress, Henry Waxman, Nancy Pelosi, Diane Feinstein, just to name a few. These people are whacked out politicians bent on doing to the country what their brethren, in the State Legislature, have done to California. Hey, California, elections have consequences and yours are coming. You can solve your problems, just throw the Democrats out and make sure you don't elect any RINO's. It's not a perfect solution, but it's a start. If the Republicans can't do the right thing, start a 3rd Party and throw them all out. That's what democracy is all about.
May 11, 2009
WE have Boxer, Fienstien, Waters and Pelosi! If it's true that as California goes so goes the country we're all in trouble. Arnold is just like the rest of the spend, spend, spend politicians but at least he isn't as corrupt as the Democrats. Progressive/Democrats/Socialists dumb asses out here are destroying the entire country. Arnold might be pretty far left but he's mild compared to some of the most radical fools in the country. What a shame we can't terminate the US Congress and Senate.
Jim
May 11, 2009
The public employee unions had their shot at scare mongering with the Year of Reform. The effort was spectacular, breathtakingly dishonest, and incredibly expensive. Will the voters of California fall for it again? Arnold can't take all the blame. He did try, and took an awful beating in the process. I can understand if he decided he'd just be a celebrity government and let the voters live with the pig in a poke they bought. California is a democracy, and people get the government they deserve.
Black Cloud
May 12, 2009
The land of fruits and nuts is finally getting the bill for their dinner. Pay up and shut up, or secede.
January
May 12, 2009
More info on California Proposition 1A here.
Oliver Cromwell
May 12, 2009
The State is broke and broken.
K
May 12, 2009
The present situation in California is the result of the state being gerrymandered to favor the Democrats as well as an immigrant influx with 27 percent of the state's residents being born outside the country. Immigrants who tend to vote Democratic. If the state had the same demographics as the 70s, then you'd likely see a real tax revolt. Now, all you're going to get is some token reductions and eventual state bankruptcy ala New York in the 80s. Perhaps if
B2Slim
May 12, 2009
OH OBAMA will declare KALIFORNIA too big to fail and print another few trillion to salvage his "BASE". HE NEEDS their vote in 2012 and to push through his HUGO CHAVEZ agenda, and to give amnesty and 100% welfare benefits to illegal immigrants! TRUST the bail out deal is already done: PELOSI FEINSTEIN BOXER OBAMA and the other corrupt criminal democrat controlled congress. Texas needs to say: NO TO having to bail out CA. and Leave the UNION. CA could have saved itself, DRILL: DRILL: DRILL; DRILL: and send the illegals home
Steve Massey
May 12, 2009
Chapter 11 California, split it up by county, and let the counties be auctioned off to neighboring states or other parties.
migtex1234
May 12, 2009
Mean, spiteful, shrill, arrogant, threats, no other opinions allowed. Is this an example for our children? Attack on individuals who disagree? What happen to reason, civility, & discussion? Left attacks appear to be thugs w/o any ability to listen.
Don L
May 12, 2009
Kyoto IX ought to do them in before the big quake does. I will say this on their behalf though: California is my favorite place not to visit.
Don L
May 12, 2009
Kyoto IX ought to do them in before the big quake does. I will say this on their behalf though: California is my favorite place not to visit.
rod stanton
May 12, 2009
Arnie like both Bushs ran as a conservative . Like the Bushes once in office he governed as a far left liberal. His "read My lips... Compasionate Conservative..." lies no longer are believed. Which is why he decided not to run for US Senate. He would lose and lose big! Unfortunately Californians, like the rest of America, suffer fron the big government GOP diasters. The lefties Bush gave America Clinton and The One; I hope the backlash in Cal will not be as extreme. But ....
bob@yahoo.com
May 12, 2009
Hugh is wrong when he says California State workers have made no real sacrifice. I work for the State, and know otherwise. Virtually all State employees have had their pay cut by 10%. This has caused a lot of financial hardship, particularly for lower paid State workers. I personally know of two co-workers who are losing their homes to foreclosure because they can no longer afford the mortgage payments after the 10% pay cuts. If Hugh is full of BS on this point, how can anyone trust anything he writes?
Tom
May 12, 2009
Californians have finally come to the truth that to continue giving this legislature more tax money is rewarding bad behavior. It will also merely postpone the inevitable - the crash of California since the legislature doesn't know how to do anything but spend, spend, spend. It is sad that such a great state has to come to this to learn the danger of a liberal government.
May 12, 2009
U-Haul truck rate L.A. to Houston: c. $3600 Houston to L.A.: $399.00
opperman@rock.com
May 12, 2009
The Governator was never a Republican. Voters thought they'd elected someone who'd finally get tough, stop funding all of Mexico's illegal exports and turn their state around. Instead, somewhere Gray Davis is laughing at what a loser Arnold is.
Mwalimu Daudi
May 12, 2009
I think that Hewitt has forgotten one thing - ACORN and the Democrat voting fraud machine. Don't be surprised if they are able to narrow the gap or even end up with more "votes". Like in Chicago, the dead vote early and often. And it's not like Republicans will sudddenly grow a pair and fight back.
Dr. Dean
May 12, 2009
California has become, as a commenter above noted, ungovernable. The government does not represent the people, it wholly represents state employee unions, environmentalists, feminists and other leftist favorites. However, we the people elected this mess and continue to put them or their clones back in office. As far as the ballot box is concerned, we are schizophrenic: We will trash the upcoming initiatives yet may elect Gavin Newsome as governor (as insane as that seems it is not outside the realm of possibility here...) and have elected Maxine Waters to Congress. How stupid is that? We, the people of California, are mostly to blame for our problems. Those problems are now very tightly entrenched and will be all but impossible to solve.
Mike5462@yahoo.com
May 12, 2009
Dear Bob@yahoo.com, While I understand that it hurts to take a 10% paycut (my sister is a CA state employee and has also done so) the real problem is that it is unlikely that your job is "worth" 70% of what you are paid. This is not a personal comment. In the private sector your job is "worth" what the market will bear. When it becomes valueless, you lose it. When the employers revenue is unable to pay it, you lose it. Unfortunately government has suspended the rules and therein lies the problem. Not to mention the pensions. My sister, an otherwise intelligent person, does not seem to understand that the 80% pension she expects to retire with is the reason that she is taking a pay cut now and will take many more in the future. She is a victim of all her former colleagues relaxing with their pensions and pina coladas.
Diane W
May 12, 2009
Democratic California has been running business out of our state for years. It's just catching up now. As long as the none thinking sheepeople are loyal and keep electing the Dem's on the promise they will get a few peanuts. They can't see the flimflam politicians are picking their pockets and giving back nothing. It's all about the power and not about what's good for the state or the people..
Diane W
May 12, 2009
As long as California voters keep electing the Dem's they will continue to run jobs out of Ca. Ca has not been friendly to business for years. There is a limit to loyalty when you keep getting your pockets picked and your dollars given to illegals. (Sorry I meant to say future Dem's.)
Rick
May 12, 2009
If anyone should be scared, it should be Arnold first of all, and second of all, it should be the criminal class. Guess what? If we lose those overpaid firemen, we will form volunteer fire departments, even if the State tries to stop us. And the criminals had better start worrying, because without their liberal fascist support network of lawyers and judges, they will be exposed to citizen justice. I will be carrying my 12 gauge.
ZZMike
May 12, 2009
One of the tag lines for at least pne of the propositions ends with "... supported by firemen and policemen". Who, exactly (or even closely), are these firemen and policemen? And why, from government's standpoint, is it always schools and fire stations that have to get the first axe? Why not start with the California Coastal Commission, and any number of high-salary commissioners, most all of whom are political appointees? One of the propositions lets them borrow against future lottery winnings. Is this not madness?
KOne
May 12, 2009
It appears another person as commented as "K" this morning. I wrote the comment on May 11, not the one this morning although I don't see anything wrong with it. Someone mentioned pay cuts of 10% have gone through. Will they be paid later? Usually any government cutback merely redirects the money back into the same pockets later by a more covet mechanism. Of course redirecting the money means finding the money first. And that certainly is the CA problem. The Treasury (with the Federal Reserve) can conjure money from the air, the states cannot. And such federal magic only delays disaster. I predict that the upcoming vote will change nothing. The state government will somehow negate it if they lose. And for every hardship the media will blame the GOP. In respect to the media, having Arnold in office is a gift from the gods for the state government. It makes it look as if a Republican actually has some influence in the state.
fedphucksfrugal
May 12, 2009
When you state that "California's budget woes are much greater than those of GM and Chrysler combined, but no give-backs have even been requested of the public employee unions beyond a symbolic loss of a holiday or two lost", you are correct, but let's not forget that the only thing that the UAW gave up was three minutes of break time, and their Easter Monday paid holiday for two years, (who he hell, besides the UAW that is, gets Easter Monday as a paid holiday?) and for this "painful concession", they were given half ownership of the two companies.
sell
May 12, 2009
Maybe we can sell California to Mexico- many of its citizens reside there and don't speak any English anyways.
Jay
May 13, 2009
You make the curious assumption that if state taxes are cut, the state government will have to cut all but essential services like schools, police, and fire protection. But surely in real life, if state taxes are cut, the first thing to go will be police and fire protection and anything that really contributes to education. What will be kept at all costs is state employee pensions, environmental regulation enforcement, and condom distribution in the schools.
Whitey
May 13, 2009
As California goes, so goes the nation. Both are under Democratic control. Both are going into the toilet.During the last ten years, there has been no gain in the number of businesses. The Golden State is indeed bankrupt.
Sally Grix
May 13, 2009
The no's must win this! What a wonderful and clear message this would be to Sacramento and D.C. Imagine the left coast voters vetoeing more spending. Keep up the good work Hugh and pls don't move to Colorado. CA needs you!
russ
May 13, 2009
I love California. Wish it had political leadership worthy of her. Problem with Californians is that they stopped working and decided they just wanted to play. No more freeways, no more oil drilling, no more growth. Pretty much began with Jerry Brown's End of Prosperity governorship. California never got it's mojo back. Obama will take control of California soon. He already is using fed stimulus money to blackmail Arnold to give back union wage cuts. BHO will just shut down Sacramento, send Arnold back to Malibu and put California into receivership. Federal judges will run the state.
S.H.
May 15, 2009
So goes California, so goes the rest of the country. Take a look at California. We are the model for liberalism, and you can see that it works so well.
S.H.
May 15, 2009
So goes California, so goes the rest of the country. Take a look at California. We are the model for liberalism, and you can see that it works so well.
Perry
May 17, 2009
People, this is the "United" States. Californians need financial assistance from the other states right now so we should get it. We'll help when we're in the black again, which will happen -- we just need time. President Obama's plan to cover everyone with health insurance will lead to more productivity and, thus, more tax revenue in the future. And money to Acorn and similar groups won't go to waste -- you will see significant improvement in the black community. Again, they just need the money and some time. So vote YES YES YES and let's give our elected officials a chance. Have faith in government... the free market has had its chance and it failed. It's time to give more for the greater good. Vote YES!
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