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Glenn Reynolds on the hidden cost of national health care

By: Glenn Harlan Reynolds
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July 12, 2009

Lots of people are beginning to question the cost of President Barack Obama's healthcare "reform" plans, and with good reason. (Just compare the original projections for Medicare with what it wound up costing in reality).

But there's another cost that isn't getting enough attention. That's the degree to which a bureaucratized healthcare system will squash medical innovation just as we reach a point where dramatic progress is possible. To see how important that is, I don't have to look any farther than my own family.

Perhaps our medical history is more involved than most, but probably not by a lot. And yet many members of my family are living better, happier lives -- or, heck, just living -- because of medical innovations made in recent decades, innovations that probably wouldn't have been made under a government-run health system. And as medical technology progresses by leaps and bounds, the next few decades are likely to see much greater progress, unless it's throttled by bureaucrats.

President Obama talks about the importance of prevention in a way that suggests that when people have heart attacks it's their own fault. But my wife, a longtime vegetarian and marathon runner, had a freak heart attack at the age of 37.

It wasn't from too many Big Macs. After some rough patches, she's now doing well, thanks to an obscure and expensive anti-arrhythmic drug called Tikosyn, and an implantable cardioverter/defibrillator. Not too long ago, she'd have been largely bedridden. These medical innovations made the difference between the life of a near-invalid and a life that's close to normal.

My mother had a hip replacement. Her hip didn't break - she basically wore it out with exercise. When the pain got too bad, she got it replaced, and now she's moving around like before, only painlessly. Not too long ago, she would have been chairbound.

My father had prostate cancer; his doctor suggested waiting but on biopsy it turned out to be pretty aggressive. It was treated with radioactive "seed" implants. He's now been cancer-free for several years, without the side effects of earlier treatments -- or, worse, of cancer.

My daughter had endoscopic sinus surgery this spring. She had been sickly and listless, complaining of constant migraine headaches, missing a lot of school, and generally looking more like a zombie than a teenager. Several doctors dismissed her problems, or prescribed antibiotics that didn't help much, until we found one who took the extra step.

A head CT scan done on a fancy new in-office machine showed a nasty festering infection, the surgeon cleaned it out, and now she's like a normal kid again. Before laparoscopy, her condition

would probably have remained untreated, and she would have been another "sickly" kid. Better to be well.

The normal critique of socialized medicine is to point out that people have to wait a long time for these kinds of treatments in places like Britain. And that's certainly a valid critique. I'm sure my mom and daughter would still be waiting for their treatments, while my father and wife would probably be dead.

The key point, though, is that these treatments didn't just come out out of the blue. They were developed by drug companies and device makers who thought they had a good market for things that would make people feel better.

But under a national healthcare plan, the "market" will consist of whatever the bureaucrats are willing to buy. That means treatment for politically stylish diseases will get some money, but otherwise the main concern will be cost-control. More treatments, to bureaucrats, mean more costs.

It doesn't always work that way, of course. The rise of proton-pump inhibitors like Nexium or Prilosec has made ulcer surgery a thing of the past. But to the bureaucratic mindset, those pills are a cost, and ulcer-surgery expenses can be dealt with by rationing. Let 'em eat Maalox while they wait.

I exaggerate, but . . . well, maybe I don't. The truth is, despite the great promise of new medical technology out there now, in terms of new cancer treatments, biotechnology, nanotechnology, and more, the potential marvels of the next twenty years will never be developed unless some developer thinks there's a market.

And with bureaucrats in charge of deciding what treatments to pay for, the existence of such markets will be much less certain. Oh, sure, federally-funded medical research will still go on at the NSF, NIH, etc. But turning that research into actual products is a different story.

My family benefited from innovative treatments that probably wouldn't be around if the United States had adopted socialized medicine when that was first proposed over half a century ago. In 20 years from now, a lot more treatments -- and, probably, dramatically better treatments -- won't be around if we adopt a national healthcare program now.

It's ironic that the same Democrats who were pushing the medical prospects for stem-cell research during the last election are now pushing a program that will make such progress far less likely.

 

 

 

Glenn Harlan Reynolds, a law professor at the University of Tennessee, hosts "InstaVision" on PJTV.com and blogs at InstaPundit.com.




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Forrest Covington

Jul 11, 2009

Great column by the Blogfather. Another aspect is that these new treatments and techniques developed here have spread around the world. America has been the R&D of medicine, a role which is increasingly being played by China and especially India, because they are recognizing the benefits of free markets. We need some kind of health reform in the US, without stifling the innovation and entrepreneurship that we will need in the future.

 

Doug

Jul 11, 2009

Sounds good for you but can you imagine what the existance of your daughter with your back ground will do to the gene pool. Yips! It is painful but sometimes it is better to let your wife and such go.

 

George Volski

Jul 11, 2009

My dogs in the US had a much better private health care than my parents in my native Poland. Mr.Reynolds is right on pointing to this negative aspect of socialized medicine and so far he seems to be the only one despite writing about it frequently in his blog.

 

Wallace

Jul 11, 2009

'Oh, sure, federally-funded medical research will still go on at the NSF, NIH, etc. But turning that research into actual products is a different story.' Not to worry. He'll just nationalize drug and medical device companies and have the government sell the products. Heck, he already did several industries, one more is no sweat.

 

Chris

Jul 11, 2009

Thanks to Doug for succinctly presenting the health bureaucrat's mindset. Only those capable of valuing society as a whole will be trusted with making the right decisions for the rest of us.

 

chip

Jul 11, 2009

In Canada, my mother waited 18 months for knee surgery. That was a lot of unnecessary pain for a 64-year-old to endure. In the UK, I have sat in an emergency room next a 16-year-old boy with a broken ankle. He had been there for 6 hours. My best friend got cancer in the UK. He complained of pain for a year before it was correctly diagnosed. The best chemo, like Avastin, wasn't available, and he eventually died, becoming another statistic among more than half of Britons who die of cancer within 5 years. In the US, it is 34%. I have lived in socialized systems, and I have lived with private. There's no comparison.

 

Charlie

Jul 11, 2009

Yes, that's life in the real world. Sadly our government officials do not live in the real world. Charlie

 

Dr. Bobbs

Jul 11, 2009

Good points, Mr. Reynolds, but the reason why socialized medicine is starting to gain some traction is because of the failures of the free market. Private health insurance premiums are going up -- and going up very fast -- while coverage is going down. In my office, I'm seeing insurance companies refusing to pay for necessary imaging studies and even refusing to pay for generic drugs. Free markets are supposed to offer higher quality products and services at lower costs. The exact opposite is happening with private insurance. Private insurance carriers and pharmacy benefit management companies should take a lesson from AIG and General Motors about what happens when you follow self-destructive business practices. There's a cautionary tale there.

 

stevenh

Jul 11, 2009

Dr. Bobbs: "lesson from AIG and General Motors about what happens when you follow self-destructive business practices. There's a cautionary tale there." Also good points... but part of this is the lack of market. Your often tied to insurance plans picked by your employer (re: hardly a free market). If there is a role for government, it is to open up the market. I'd like to be able to pick my own insurance plan from all of those being offered.

 

Lars in VA

Jul 11, 2009

Let the socialist Democrats in congress be forced to use socialized medicine first for themselves and their families. If they survive, let them come extol the virtues to the rest of us. I would also suggest that their children avail themselves of multiple abortions. Problem solved.

 

Mark S.

Jul 11, 2009

All good points, but there is another to consider. Medicine has made great strides over the years by making extraordinary efforts for lost causes. The survival rate of premature babies has dramatically improved and many of these babies live normal lives. Left to bureaucrats, the babies would have been sent to the trash heap. Our President doesn’t believe a fetus is a baby until it comes to term. The long term tragedy is again the hurdle to innovation.

 

Some guy

Jul 12, 2009

Doug, you are the kind of depraved degenerate that makes me want to keep my health care decisions in my own hands. People like you should NEVER make life-and-death decisions for anyone else. Go to hell.

 

model_1066

Jul 12, 2009

I think that people often overstate the expenses involved in R&D related to medicine in general. For drugs at least, the lawyers and FDA probably account for most of where the money goes. But is that the same for biological methods such as stem cells, or engineering advances in diagnostics and prosthetics? Many things considered advances in medicine really aren't: look at MRI. Only advancements in semiconductors and computer science made it useful for something other than organic chemistry.

 

rk

Jul 12, 2009

I'm always amazed at the depravity of our politicians. Prof. Reynolds makes a concise, modern, statement on healthcare that is (dare I say it) obvious. Yet our elites/pols have so polluted our public thought, that we will be lucky to avoid policies that may have looked good 60 years ago...and they call themselves progressive.

 

jim

Jul 12, 2009

Three words for federally funded research: Human Genome Project. Bill Clinton's federal project was projected to take at least ten years longer than what private industry solved in just two. By and large federal research grants do not encourage solutions but asking more questions. Find a solution and your funding goes away. Make federal funding the primary source of research money and the solutions go away.

 

Walt Anshaw

Jul 12, 2009

Well said, Glenn. This point, "Oh, sure, federally-funded medical research will still go on at the NSF, NIH, etc. But turning that research into actual products is a different story." is particularly relevant. Academic researchers interest in mass production of applications of their discoveries stops with a patent and a marketing agreement with an IP broker. Government bureaucrats cannot fill that role.

 

old Don P.

Jul 12, 2009

An interesting story, and one deserving of my sympathy. What Mr. Reynolds doesn't say is, HOW MUCH THIS COST HIM. My understanding of the present proposals for publicly-funded health insurance is, that participartion will be voluntary; we'll be free to engage private health insurance if we prefer. Then, let's see what treatments private insurers will be willing to pay for, vs. what govt. plan will. Let's wait and see what comes! THEN decide.

 

old Don P.

Jul 12, 2009

I second Dr.Bobbs' comment.

 

Hal

Jul 12, 2009

You are 120% right Glenn. My wife had a history of stomach problems. Finally she had such a large ulcer, they had to remove half of her stomach. After the surgery we looked through her medical records, her problems started after I started flying in the Air Force. One doctor wrote "typical officers wife with a touchy stomach." Nexium would have prevented the ulcer. Speaking of National Health, I was stationed in England, I attended an English Church, This older lady had cataracts in both eyes. She waited for over four years before she had one eye Cleared and then she was sent to the bottom of the list for the other eye. In New Zealand, National Health, they will only do one eye, then you can pass the eye exam for a drivers license. Sorry Glen but the biggest problem is lack of Tort Reform. The medical field is a gold mine for some lawyers. I feel that if there is neglegence, then there should be compensation, but there are too many hungry lawyers that causing problems

 

Hal

Jul 12, 2009

One improvement for our health insurance would be to let the individual have there own policy, tax free and the premiums would roll over with the individual. He could enroll in a catastrophic policy. A medical savings account would allow one to pick his own doctor, incompetant doctors would drop out and the politicians would be out of the loop. Some of the comments have said, "lets start up national health and make comparasion. That is not the way the politics work. As the cost of National Health goes up and treatment goes down, the politians have to protest their baby. Eventually no private doctor will be allowed to practice. Check Canada and Englan for how the system evolves.

 

Paul

Jul 12, 2009

Good thing Doug's Mom did not feel the same way about him... or maybe not....

 

funefarmer

Jul 12, 2009

I go a step further and ask, "Would all these so-called successful government health care programs be so successful if it were not for the innovations and developments that come from our (the US) free-from-bureaucratic (at least nearly so)cost control?

 

jharp

Jul 12, 2009

Glenn, Are you purposely trying to mislead or do you not understand what "socialized" medicine is. And it's a dam good thing you personally have taxpayer paid for health insurance with the health history of your family. The self employed and small companies would have had their policies canceled or rates increased by leaps right after the Mrs.'s heart attack. You suck.

 

Tyrone Slothrop

Jul 12, 2009

This is an important argument I would like to add that socialized medicine will be used as a pretext for altering people's behavior, resulting in massive infringements of personal liberty. First to go will be smoking--after all it will be "criminal" to impose on the commonweal for health care related to such irresponsible behavior. Then drinking. Then hang gliding, mountain climbing, scuba diving and cars capable of speeds over 60 mph. As long as the socialists can claim that these behaviors are wantonly costing the "people" too much money, they can be proscribed. Think I'm exaggerating? In the UK, people are already being denied treatment by the National Health because they smoked and drank.

 

Nan in Can

Jul 12, 2009

I am an American in Canada so I know of that which you speak. My husband is in need of a fairly minor knee surgery and he says, "I better get my requisition if I want to get this done in the next 18 months." I have a feeling that the same people who don't understand basic economics (thank you Henry Hazlitt for your book which should be taught at every high school across the land!) and can't imagine the foiled power of an unspent dollar are not going to understand the foiled potential of uninvented medical innovation. That's just too ethereal an idea.

 

scott sevart

Jul 12, 2009

Great article professor Reynolds!

 

jaafar

Jul 12, 2009

Doug, you are either being completely ironic, or you yourself are stupid and inhuman enough to be removed from the pool. I mean, who died and made you Pope, anyway?

 

Dennis301

Jul 12, 2009

Thank you for a great refocusing point on the subject of cost in healthcare. I know from personal experience that a few shots of Hyalgan and a new brace has prevented a knee replacement and left me mobile. Simple Cortisone injections for the other joints (well some not quite so simple) lets me pick up my Grand Children. I hope this validates Glen’s premise that his family is in the norm and second his fear that the innovation will come to a halt. I am interested in the cost (increase/decrease) in Medicare post the Plan’s Rx benefit implementation. The selling point was increasing use of medication would lead to a decrease in surgeries; thereby reducing the cost of Medicare. Has anyone accomplished that study?

 

Fderfler

Jul 12, 2009

Glenn - Thanks for the excellent analysis (meaning.. "I agree with you")! Aside from mediocrity, government healthcare also provides control. Gun in the house? It's your right, but don't expect healthcare in such a dangerous home environment. Controversial Blogger? It's your right, but your life could be too risky to insure. Home schooled kids? How can we cover them if they aren't in a safe school? With largess comes control!

 

Just Sayin'

Jul 12, 2009

"And with bureaucrats in charge of deciding what treatments to pay for, the existence of such markets will be much less certain." Um... bureaucrats (insurers)ALREADY decide what treatments are paid for, unless you and your family paid cash. If that current status hasn't squelched innovation, why think it would under Obama's proposal?

 

Just Sayin'

Jul 12, 2009

"And with bureaucrats in charge of deciding what treatments to pay for, the existence of such markets will be much less certain." Um...bureaucrats (insurers) ALREADY decide what treatments are paid for (unless you and your family paid cash). So why suggest that Obama's proposal will have any effect on markets or innovation?

 

jharp

Jul 12, 2009

Just Sayin' "Um... bureaucrats (insurers)ALREADY decide what treatments are paid for" And they profit immensely by denying claims and only insuring the healthy. A free market approach to health insurance doesn't work and never will. There is no profit in insuring the unhealthy therefore no sane business will do it. For the same reason private insurers won't sell flood insurance to those who live on a flood plain.

 

Rockinrobin

Jul 12, 2009

I agree taht socalized health care is definately not an answer, but I do think there is something awry with the health system. I have fair insurance I think, I work for a municipality and my co-pay so 20%. My wife just had laparoscopic surgery to remove gall bladder removed. The entire preceedure took less than 4 hours and I took her home. My 20% co-pay turned out to be $9,528.00. Do the math - $19,000? Doesn't that seem to be a littel steep? Still, I'm glad that the knowledge and techniques were available.

 

dinkerschmidt

Jul 12, 2009

Just look at the NIH research funding structure: HIV (kills 15,000/year) gets about the same funding as cancer (600,000/year) and far more than heart disease (600,000 /year). Draw your own conclusions.

 

jharp

Jul 12, 2009

"Rockinrobin: "I agree taht socalized health care is definately not an answer" That's nice to hear as no one, not a single soul, has proposed, nor is proposing "socialized medicine". What is it with you wingnuts? Do you even know what "socialized medicine" is? Glenn?

 

Kev

Jul 12, 2009

Hey Doug: You first! (In other words, what you said has no credibility unless you'd be willing to let your own wife or kid 'go' in the same situation.) And "you first" is also what I'd say to anyone in Congress who'd vote for socialized medicine: Not a single one of us 'regular folks' will go on this plan until you go on it yourself.

 

J G

Jul 12, 2009

The only thing you have to look at to evaluate the new medical care proposals is; do the politicians have a different plan than you do?

 

jharp

Jul 12, 2009

Kev: "And "you first" is also what I'd say to anyone in Congress who'd vote for socialized medicine" - - - Good grief, our country is filled with imbeciles. No one, nobody, has or is proposing "socialized medicine". What is so hard to understand about that? And sign me up for the public plan and send me the bill. I'd be honored to be the first to enroll.

 

HawgGuy

Jul 12, 2009

jharp, must you insult those of us with a differing opinion than your by calling us "wingnuts"? Obamacare will clearly lead to the nationalization/socialization of the US medical system, incrementally perhaps, but eventually.

 

Kevin

Jul 12, 2009

Some have commented that insurance companies already make decisions regarding coverage, and that this same power would simply transfer to the gov't. What needs to be understood is that the gov't makes decisions for political reasons; the insurance companies for business ones. If company A starts offering better coverage, company B will be forced to respond or go out of business. These pressures do not apply to the gov't.

 

jharp

Jul 12, 2009

"Obamacare will clearly lead to the nationalization/socialization of the US medical system, incrementally perhaps, but eventually." Wrong again. If, in fact, the public plan is more efficient and less costly it might lead to single payer. If not, people will stick with their private plans. Please take the time to learn the difference and stop embarrassing yourself.

 

Johnny Walker Purple

Jul 12, 2009

I would rather have the government bureaucrats making decisions than private insurance bureaucrats. First of all they won't be concerned purely with making money and denying me my claim and second, I can actually have a say in changing how those bureaucrats operate.

 

JC

Jul 12, 2009

Search "FLORIDA HOSPITAL" on youtube for 3 minutes of unedited,unvarnished TRUTH. The Illegal Alien CO$TS, not discussed or covered by BHO Media. Or should I say "hidden" CO$TS?

 

jharp

Jul 12, 2009

The free market has had plenty of time to work its magic yet it has failed to provide the elderly and those with pre existing conditions with any affordable options. Because the sick and the elderly people require much more in the way of medical services, on average, than younger people, it makes no economic sense to offer them health insurance, at least not a premium levels that most people can afford. The result is an epidemic of uninsured and sickly Americans who are being bankrupted by medical bills. That's why Medicare was necessary. And that's why a public plan is necessary.

 

Damdifino

Jul 12, 2009

Of course those who succumb early because of a lack of innovative treatments will be doing their part to help rescue Social Security. Likewise, many who wait in months-long queues to receive standard treatment will eventually die untreated. This is cost effective.

 

Tristan Yates

Jul 13, 2009

Excellent article. Glenn is one of the few people that can intuitively connect the dots between the free market and higher standards of living through both advancing technology and process efficiencies. It's unbelievable to me that anyone graduates high school, let alone college, not understanding this.

 

Rich Casebolt

Jul 13, 2009

jharp, the problem is that the "public option" will inevitably be expanded with sweetness and pork, a la the transformation of Social Security from insurance program to entitlement ... then the pols will DEMAND that the private options match the public option point-for-point ... but the private options -- unlike the public option -- won't have the benefit of deficit-spending-capability behind them ... in this manner, they will be regulated out of business, leaving the public option as the ONLY option ... then, the combination of fiscal irresponsibility and a maximized client load will come home to roost, and we will all suffer. Are all Leftists as clueless as you are?

 

Murphy

Jul 13, 2009

Dr Bobbs said: "Free markets are supposed to offer higher quality products and services at lower costs. The exact opposite is happening with private insurance." Your statement is false. Free markets don't always provide what you think is right and correct. I want a $2.00 a Porche but I don't get one. Free markets are not perfect, they are free and vastly better than government run exchanges.

 

Steve

Jul 13, 2009

I share your concern about the damper on innovation attendant to a controlled medical system. However, I am also concerned about what appears to be the hidden tax on the American economy caused by the Canadian and European nationalized health systems. They price control drugs and refuse to pay for innovative treatments. The obvious result is the R & D necessary to develop new drugs and treatments must be borne by the increasingly fewer countries, read United States, that do not control the price of drugs or limit the implementation of innovative treatments. I wonder how much of the 20% of our GDP is caused by this hidden tax?

 

FormerActuary

Jul 13, 2009

1. Health insurance is not the big money maker for insurers- life insurance is the cash cow.

2. Insurance is highly regulated at the state level. Coverage for many treatments are statutorially mandated- not because insureds requested coverage, but lobbied by legislators' campaign contributors. Does the covent really need to be forced to pay a higher premium for the mandated in vitro fertilization coverage?

 

cranky

Jul 13, 2009

"I exaggerate, but . . . well, maybe I don't."

Uh, no. Glenn. You do exaggerate. And make gross assumptions and wild-eyed speculation.

 

ChunLing

Jul 13, 2009

Doug...thanks for the laugh. Sorry that nobody else thinks health care is a funny topic.

Obviously, recessives are going to hang around in the gene pool anyway, even if you go all Darwin on them. Besides which the economic penalty of requiring expensive health care is quite effective in limiting reproductive opportunity in the modern context. So the comment cannot have been intended seriously by anyone sufficiently interested in genetics to have made it. It was a joke, folks.

I have a feeling though, that it struck an uncomfortable nerve. After all, socialized medicine is inherently connected with euthanasia and eugenics, a fact which some people might like to ignore, since they can't outright deny it with a straight face.

But this is a text only forum, so we can't see your faces anyway. Lucky us.

 

Jul 14, 2009

This lie ~socialized medicine is inherently connected with euthanasia and eugenics is keenly representative of the un/mistruths, obfuscation and emotional imaginary scenarios (see the Putz's post) that are being employed by the conservative minions and hacks who eshcew the party line that any deviation from their sacred 'free market' policies is heresy and treason.

http://www.nih.gov/about/#mission

“The National Institutes of Health (NIH), a part of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, is the primary Federal agency for conducting and supporting medical research.”

“Composed of 27 Institutes and Centers, the NIH provides leadership and financial support to researchers in every state and throughout the world.

“For over a century, the National Institutes of Health has played an important role in improving the health of the nation.”


 

Lisa

Jul 14, 2009

Because as a tenured civil servant for the state of Tennessee (which, btw, provides you with socialized medical insurance), you and your family have clearly never benefited from governmental protection.

 

Chris

Jul 14, 2009

It's funny to me that the "progressive" mindset is invariably focused on leveling the playing field. The true effects of nationalized health care will not save lives or improve the coverage of our citizens-it will just ensure the dissatisfaction of all-comers- a truly balanced system we can all appreciate on some level.

 

Ockie

Jul 14, 2009

It took me forty minutes to read the comments.One commentor said " Will Congress have the same benefits as the rest of us?"That says it all.Does Nancy Pelosi fly cross-country in a private jet?

 

Dave

Jul 14, 2009

It's a shame that the US government would spend money for the barbarians of Metropolitan Mosul and Baghdad and not on Metropolitan US cities. I would rather have Single-Payer Health Care for all Americans, including the Obese, the homeless, and the Crackheads, than help one savage Iraqi.

 

Lisa

Jul 15, 2009

@Ockie:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp

On occassion she uses a military transport, as directed by the House Sargeant-at-arms, to return to her home district in CA.

 

kakiple

Jul 15, 2009

one other fun fact to look at in this socialistic healthcare fiasco: (rounded off of course) 20% of americans consume 80% of americas healthcare services. what sense does it make to have 100% of americans paying extra taxes to basically take care of that tiny number of the most unhealthy and possibly over medicated in the country? i cant figure that one out at all. we need to go back to primitive times when we all lived on what we worked for and natural selection took care of the population. not to mention people need to stop going to the doctor for things like aches and pains, colds, and restless leg syndrom. its insane. they just slap you with a $500 bill for the office visit and MAYBE write you off some medication that you dont even need. america needs to get a grip.

 

Himself

Jul 15, 2009

Gee Glenn, how do you think all this reseach is paid for now? By the National Institute of Health of course. Our tax dollars at work. You truly are either stupid or a liar.

 

ed

Jul 16, 2009

the term socialized medicine has been bandied about in several of the comments. Remember the VA is socialized medicine where government hospitals and doctors are government employees. Medicare is socialized insurance with the actual healthcare aspects provided by free market doctors, hospitals, and labs.
thank you
Ed

 

Nurse David

Jul 19, 2009

This article is BS from beginning to end. Very few effective new treatments have come out of the U.S. in the last 20 years. Look up laparoscopic surgery or gastric banding or even the treatments Glen mentions on Wikipedia. What for-profit research develops is more and more expensive treatments, rarely better ones.
And as others have said, nobody is proposing public health care. The proposal is for public INSURANCE. Insurance doesn't innovate in medicine - it just figures out ways to deny treatment.

 

Reggie Greene / The Logistician

Jul 21, 2009

We have a tendency in America to argue for or against a concept based on our own personal philosophy or view of the world, what advances our personal interests, or the interests of our party, family, organization, or region. Perhaps viewing the issue from a management or systemic perspective might result in innovative approaches to the issue. The American national mindset, citizen philosophy, lack of citizen motivation to be proactively healthy, and governance model make the socialization of health care in America very problematic, particularly at this point in time. A country needs to know its limitations.

 

The Other Doug

Jul 21, 2009

Dr. Bobbs, we already have defacto socialized medicine in this country, ever since medicare, medicaid and the EMTALA act of 1982. Obama and his dual citizen cohort just want to formalize it. In other words, there has not been a free market in medical insurance in over forty years. Not coincidentally, that is how long the great pretender says our system has been dysfunctional. Anybody stupid enough to think you can improve a failing system by doing more of what killed it probably thinks the solution to a debt crisis is to borrow and spend more. Oh, wait a minute....

 

Jul 21, 2009

I haven't read all the comments, but doesn't anyone believe that Tort Reform would help rein in medical costs?

Stop the ambulance chasers.

 

Don

Jul 21, 2009

A question I never hear come up when discussing the latest round (or any round) in govt run health care is - if this is going to be so great, why is Congress (who is shoving it down our throats) specifically exempt from having to participate?

 

JohnG

Jul 21, 2009

Great article, Glenn. The Marxist Idiots in Congress led by President Pinochio are going to KILL US slowly or quickly as they DESTROY out economy and Health Care System

 

alfred wise

Jul 22, 2009

i think all goverment employers should be on medicare like the rest of us

 

Boglee

Aug 7, 2009

I have been a civil servant for over forty years, trust me, I don't want one of my co-workers making my health care decisions, and I'm sure you don't want me making yours.

 

ECowper

Aug 7, 2009

jharp, single payer means a monopoly by one health care payer, the government. That's just a fancy term that socialists dreamt up to not have to say nationalized, socialized, etc. about the healthcare system. If there is only one source of money/payment, then the government will be in control. That is socialized medicine. You make it quite clear in your comments that is a likely outcome of Obama's proposals. Therefore it is likely that the only source of money in the healthcare system will be the government. That is not distinguishable from "national health care" or "socialized health care".

Second, in case you are unaware, some 45% plus of all the money in the "free market for health care" comes from the government. That's hardly a free market. Between the massive regulation by the government and the massive amount of my tax dollars put into medicare, medicaid, s-chip, subsidy of employer insurance plans, etc. we do not have a "free market". But nice try.

 

jhepp

Aug 8, 2009

Innovation and risk are not hallmarks of government-run anything. Bloat, corruption and waste, on the other hand...

Thanks for the concern, Mr. President, but I prefer making my own decisions regarding my health care. I don't believe our system is broken.

 

AnnieO

Aug 8, 2009

Definitly NOT for single-payer ins. also known as socialistic health ins. I have personal family experience with Canada's gov't ins.; my medicare pays 35% at most, on my care and I pay the other 65% and I CHOSE this, rather than pay 100% via taxes for illegals whose care is paid for already in our emergency rooms and those who don't have to pay for their care, ie. our Congress and Pres. and not just when they're in office, but for ever after their leaving office. Separate perks for our Leaders? Hogwash!!

 

Gerald Merits

Sep 2, 2009

I too was saved my medical innovation - the drug-eluting stent, along with the medications Plavix, Tricor, and Crestor. At 38 I had my first heart attack and was found to have very advanced atherosclerosis. Three years and 25 stents later I seem to have stabilized. My life is very normal, and I have excellent exercise tolerance. Without stents, it would have been the standard CABG surgery. As I had multi-vessel disease, this would have required the use of veins for some of the bypasses. Veins have a tendency to close up again. At least with single vessel disease, the left interior left anterior mamillary artery can be used. Arteries provide for a better long-term outcome. Read about my story: http://tinyurl.com/78qfdb


 

MIMI

Sep 2, 2009

The innovation in medicine will be stopped cold andmove to Asian countries if Obamacare goes thru-China has investors and patients from US with their stem-cell research. 2 of my young relatives have advanced degrees in biology and if they can't do research here they will move. I contracted viral endocarditis on a trip last fall and am alive today because of a cardic drug developed here. The pill cost me $.08 a day without insurance! No to Obamacare!

 

Rewrite!

Sep 14, 2009

Just one of many new taxes on those of us making under $250k/yr

 

GM Roper

Sep 14, 2009

Dr. Reynolds' points are on target. I survived lung cancer in part because of surgery, but mostly because of advances in chemotherapy that was not available as little as 10 years ago.

As a 3.75 year survivor, I have no doubt that I'll reach the majic 5. 10 years ago, I would have been dead for 3.75 years.

 

nikkii989

Sep 14, 2009

I thank the medical profession every day since 2001 when I was diagnosed with colon cancer.I am free of cancer 7 years now and thank them for the chemo and radiation that saved my life.Along with a great doctor, onocologist and nurses who were there for me even on the days when I cried and they gave me strength to go on with all the treatments and surgergy.I would not be alive today if we had this national healthcare that is being forced on us.

 

Vin

Sep 14, 2009

Only two percent of Drugs in market today are there because of federally funded research. The other 98 percent were market driven. Profit is not a dirty word. Kill the profit motive, and you kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.

 


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