By: Sally C. Pipes
Reader Comments
Joe Brennan
Apr 12, 2009
If you're ever in Honolulu and get sunstroke or are just bored, take a ride to the Queens Medical Center Emergency room about midnight and sit in the waiting room for your number to be called. If you have an insurance card, you'll be in the minority. The other minorities(legal & otherwise) and drug abusers will be there for the free ride our emergency rooms provide to the uninsured. How does the new Obama health plan get the unemployed and/or illegally employed person to sign up and pay for something that's free? How does our economy cope with 10-20 illegals using our health care system for free? Are the emergency rooms going to be mandated to stop treating the uninsured? Don't hold your breath, just your nose. Go back home and sign up at your local community college for Socialism 101.
johnroggen@yahoo.com
Apr 13, 2009
Of course the Left wants to move toward a european style program where everybody is covered and anybody with a job gets taxed to pay for it. What they won't admit is that the way the europeans contain cost is through rationing. Both in the forms of waiting lines and in denying costly services to some (the older you are and the more costly the procedure, the less likely you get it). The pols will never tell us this, and by the time we figure it out it will be too late. One other thing...don't think for a minute the elites and pols don't have a separate system...just for themselves.
Jeff
Apr 13, 2009
Not all insurance companies will go out of business under this health care obamanation. There will still be a vibrant market for the super rich to purchase insurance that allows them to bypass the lines and rationing that everyone else will encounter.
BillSanford
Apr 13, 2009
If Congress passes a national plan, THEN I WANT CONGRESS TO BE THE FIRST TO TRANSITION TO IT. After all, we don't want two levels of health care, do we?
Chromehawk
Apr 13, 2009
Just write your congressman/Senator and tell them to stand up in Congress and Senate and state ... "Just remember whatever you pass via budget reconciliation can be gutted, canceled and unfunded via budget reconciliation. I think the majority party understands, if they use this process, they can never again trust the American public to make it's own decisions. Because if the people decide wrong? Whatever passed via budget reconciliation, WILL get canceled, gutted, and unfunded WITHOUT any filibuster whatsoever. And this administration's legacy dies within a week of it leaving office."
Paul Knauff
Apr 13, 2009
I'm fine with this if this is the plan tht all elected officials, at all levels, especially federal senators and congressmen, and government employees participate in. I don't want to hear that they get for free, at my expense, soemthing that is better than what I pay for.
Dr.Joe
Apr 13, 2009
If Healthcare is a "right" then all should have the same right to healthcare. Teachers, Unions, Federal, State, City employees and Congress should have to give up the terrific healthcare they now have so that we all can have "equal right to healthcare"
kate in SW Fla
Apr 13, 2009
I have lived in Europe. My son lives there now. Believe me, the health care there is just fine. Somehow people here continue to be brainwashed by corporations who are out to keep making money off of the illness of out citizenry. It is stupid to waste 12-15% of our health care dollars on corporate profits. Just completely stupid. Unless you yourself have been there, do NOT believe this hype about the evils of more accessible, more affordable, better health care. Honestly, why do people continue to fall for this nonsense?
Matthew Bright
Apr 13, 2009
The writer fails to mention that in ALL countries that have Universal Health Care, the cost is less than half of what we pay in the US for better coverage with a healthier populace. There's really nothing else to say.
Apr 13, 2009
Kate & Matthew... You want National Healthcare? Then surely, you would have no problem with what I wrote earlier... "THEN I WANT CONGRESS TO BE THE FIRST TO TRANSITION TO IT. After all, we don't want two levels of health care, do we?" Surely you will support ALL elements of Society BEING REQUIRED to use the ONE and ONLY Healthcare system in this country. Ted Kennedy would not get preferential treatment... would he?
jeff
Apr 13, 2009
It is beyond me why people believe in government. Ask somebody what the government has done right and all you get is silence. Have them run health care? There's something wrong with you if that's what you want.
Another Joe
Apr 13, 2009
Why on Earth should Teachers, Unions, Federal, State, City employees and Congress give up their benefits? That is part of the payment for the job. It isn't "free." It is payment for the jobs that they do. I hate this "they get it for free" garbage I keep hearing. I'll say it again: It is part of their payment for their job! If you take it away, you are essentially cutting their salaries significantly. This sounds like a great idea to encourage well-educated hard-working potential teachers to join the service of education.... let's offer them less! If you think any of them are not doing their jobs, and do not deserve such a salary, get rid of them. Do not punish us hard workers because you want more government healthcare handouts.
cabahugeny@yahoo.com
Apr 13, 2009
It's fine to scrutinize the healthcare plan. But we also have to watch out for self-serving attempts by healthcare companies to torpedo attempts to reform the system. Private insurers will surely launch a high-powered lobbying campaign in order to make sure that their profits come first. When they say "first do no harm", they apply that to themselves first, the public take the hindmost.
tullymet
Apr 13, 2009
The Canadian health care system does not pay for acupuncture,chiopratic services or hair prothesis!!!!! Canadians are not going bankrupt because of humongous health care bills as are so many Americans and I am talking about those with health insurance. In Canada you can pick your own Doctor. Emergency care is immediate. Yes, you may have to wait for some elective surgeries but at least you get them, without going bankrupt!
CAH
Apr 13, 2009
Gosh, I might be able to get a policy that wasn't over twice as expensive as it was 2 years ago (true story). Some competition would do these greedy insurance companies some good! The market system has failed to provide a good solution to cover all the people that need coverage. It is criminal to bailout banks or pick many other items in our bloated budget but every year half a million are driven into bankruptcy from catastrophic illness. It is simply not right or just. Our healthcare costs more than any other nation yet we have 3rd world health statistics. Simple economics says the American patient is getting ripped off big time in this systems equation. Healthcare needs to be fixed in the USA and we can't expect the insurance industry to provide solutions when they've already had the opportunity to do so but instead have only been profit focused not patient focused. I for one say make it miserable for these horrible grey men of health insurance.
jeff
Apr 13, 2009
The government always has a way of dumbing down a system. Most don't know what they have until they lose it. Ever see the news stories of the Brit's pulling out their own teeth because they couldn't get into a Gov. run clinic. Hope you folks have a spare set of pliers!!!!!!!!!
Freeranger
Apr 13, 2009
It will be a disaster, for health insurance companies. For the rest of us, we'll get better care for less money just like the rest of the civilized world.
Gus
Apr 13, 2009
Gov't provides "public" education for all. Are you 100% pleased with public education everywhere in the country? Are you willing to completely dismantle the current system instead of trying to improve the current system? The unintended consequences could be devastating to our quality of care. When the European style has been shown effective 50 years or so then perhaps it would be worth taking a look but until then it is simply too big a gamble for us to turn our current system into as effective a system as our schools.
Nick
Apr 13, 2009
There's another problem with socialized medicine that hasn't been mentioned. With price controls on drugs the pharmaceutical companies will no longer spend millions of dollars on research for new treatments. All of you posting here to defend this type of system are really willing to have new medicine development stagnated?
Derek
Apr 13, 2009
So let me get this straight: This will end up saving american businesses money, people will voluntarily use the plan because it will save them money. And magically this is a bad thing. Not only that, but the complaint is that its passing will take a majority of votes in the senate rather then a supramajority. Just how much money do you get paid to write this crap?
Concerned Patient
Apr 13, 2009
Canadian Universal Health care is just fine???....hmmmm. Tell that to the Canadian man who had to go to the U.S. to get his MRI in a timely manner and then had to go to the U.S. to get his Astrocytoma Brain tumor removed because the Canadian government wouldn't do it for four months. Sure, you can get free care eventually in Canada...if you don't die first from the wait. Sure you can pick your own doctor...if you can find one or if you get lucky in the lottery. Good luck with that. The Canadian newspapers (and other countries with Universal Health care) are full of articles about problems with their universal health care programs. The problem is not just isolated events...it is a pattern of practice. Is that what we want ?
D Max
Apr 13, 2009
Most of the countries in Europe, Canada, Japan, Australia and Cuba all have superior and cheaper medical care systems than the United States. Their citizens have lower infant mortality and higher life expectancy. We should be embarrassed.
jma9
Apr 13, 2009
the one factor not mentioned here is the providers. most of the physicians i work with are in their mid to late 50's. if this new health care plan is enacted, and their salaries are cut anymore than they have been, they will retire. there will be a massive shortage of doctors. btw, good luck finding a doctor in Canada accepting new patients. there is no incentive for them to see more than a government pre-set number. a friend of mine just married a Canadian guy and she can't find a doctor that will see her within 300 miles.
paumaMD
Apr 13, 2009
As an MD,I am conflicted on Obama's plan.From an economic standpoint, it should be a bonanza for physicians and hospitals who provide quality care with good outcomes.No more free care...we will be reimbursed for every patient we see in the office or emergency room!!!BUT, after 5-8 yrs ,after the privates have left the building, we will be creamed with lower and lower fees and more regulations and unbelievable consumer demand. Med school applications will dwindle and hospitals will put off capital improvements..Patients will have trouble finding a doctor and will quickly tire of all the red tape necessary for getting a test/proceedure.
Carl W. Goss
Apr 14, 2009
Mz Pipes is a paid shill for the drug industry. Take a close look up her bio. Nothing she writes or says about health care has any credibility. In any event I got NEWS for Mz Pipes, health care is a right, not a privilege. Her and her employers and their allies in the right-wing media don't understand this fact yet, but they will. Oh yes, they will.
Richard of Sydney
Apr 14, 2009
Premiums can be contained by requiring everyone (including the currently healthy) to contribute to the pool. Using the tax system can achieve that as far a practical. And having a single insurer stops buck passing between insurers about who bears the loss. Why do US citizens, the experts on democracy, allow their lives to be run by greedy insurance companies? Perhaps it is them, not the government, which is the problem.
HeartlandDoc
Apr 14, 2009
If health care is a right...then that means that you can hold a health care provider in servitude to take care of you for whatever low bid the government decides. This undermines freedom. Is that what our founding fathers had in mind? As far as I know, slavery hasn't worked long term for any country that has experimented with it in the past. Many health care providers take care of patients who are down on their luck...but they do this because they choose to help their community, not because they are forced to do it. By the way, Canada's stats on infant mortality and lifespan has more to do with how they gather data and their genetics, lifestyle, etc. than the amount of health care they get.
mtracy
Apr 15, 2009
Quoting the Lewin Group again? They're financed by United Health Care! If a single-payer system is so bad, why don't the other industrialized nations switch back to a private system? Because they're happy with it and think we're nuts.
Sammy
Jun 24, 2009
Will the elite members of congress and the media have the same coverage as the rest of us or will they be allowed to pay into a private plan so they can cut into the head of the line, americans need to make sure that nobody gets to move to the head of the line and anybody who try to get preferential health care should have their income taxed at a rate so high that they will be forced to have the same coverage as the rest of us.
Kathleen
Jul 15, 2009
It is very demoralizing for any individual to know that their life doesn't matter. Insurance companies that are based on profit and not focused on their customers' health send the message to everyone that only those with money deserve to live. This message is damaging our American people. Health care is not a privilege; it is a human right. Anyone making a profit off of turning down health care to someone in need of it, is a criminal of the lowest sort.
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