By: James Carafano
Reader Comments
Gordon Bremenkampf
May 11, 2009
There are so many errors of fact in Mr. Carafano's piece that neither time nor space permits a point by point refutation. Suffice it to say he hasn't done his homework; his essay deserves no better than a D. Anyone interested in an objective examination of the issue should Google "Real ID" carefully examine all perspectives.
James Jay Carafano
May 11, 2009
go ahead and start pointing out my factual errors and I'll just join in.
Greg P.
May 11, 2009
Gordon: Why don't you just point out one or two of these alleged "errors of fact" rather than just a blanket assessment.
JJ
May 11, 2009
ONE WORD IDIOT !
JJ
May 11, 2009
ONE WORD IDIOT !
tim
May 11, 2009
Gordon is right , no need to waste time.
tim
May 11, 2009
Gordon is right , no need to waste time.
James Jay Carafano
May 11, 2009
Let me get this straight, your idea of rationale public policy debate is "name calling"?
BeatTheChip
May 11, 2009
It doesn't surprise me that the Heritage Foundation doesn't really have a problem with Real ID as it was passed. CFR Researchers posing as Examiner Columnists are inherently biased and not to be trusted by those with identity concerns. He manages to skip the worst part of the Real ID Act, which is its open ended determination by Department of Homeland Security of what American identity is and shall be used for as "official purposes". A "citizenship ID card" other than a passport, will spike the uptake of fraudulent black market identity in the U.S. The Real ID Act causes American citizens to be beholden to a centralized identity based on globalized identity credentials for the entire North American continent; IF they were coerced into believing this was a Real ID card mandatory for mobility and everyday functioning in life. Don't buy into Carafano's globalized policy. It goes against U.S. Constitution and the sovereignty sought out by both citizens and immigrants alike.
Airish
May 11, 2009
Mr. Carafano's short op-ed addresses a very complicated piece of legislation and the arguments pro and con in a somewhat cursory way (but it doesn't claim to be a detailed brief on Real ID and couldn't be in the space alloted), but I fail to understand what the commenters are objecting to below. There are a variety of claims and arguments being made against REAL ID and merely saying that this article is BS serves no purpose nor does it foster an intelligent debate. On the last post, I totally fail to understand how REAL ID is going to cause a spike in fraudulent ID -- a total non-sequitur. I remember friends purchasing fake IDs back in college to be able to drink (which might still work, since drinking age verification by bartenders is not addressed in the act) and I recall that such fakes were easily obtained, especially since there were no standards against which to measure those fake out-of-state drivers' licenses.
Airish
May 11, 2009
Mr. Carafano's short op-ed addresses a very complicated piece of legislation and the arguments pro and con in a somewhat cursory way (but it doesn't claim to be a detailed brief on Real ID and couldn't be in the space alloted), but I fail to understand what the commenters are objecting to below. There are a variety of claims and arguments being made against REAL ID and merely saying that this article is BS serves no purpose nor does it foster an intelligent debate. On the last post, I totally fail to understand how REAL ID is going to cause a spike in fraudulent ID -- a total non-sequitur. I remember friends purchasing fake IDs back in college to be able to drink (which might still work, since drinking age verification by bartenders is not addressed in the act) and I recall that such fakes were easily obtained, especially since there were no standards against which to measure those fake out-of-state drivers' licenses.
Paul
May 11, 2009
Name calling is a far more easy attempt to discredit than to actually discredit, of course that is assuming there are facts to do so. You know Gordon, you want to place yourself as an academic of sorts by "grading" the piece. If this were an academic debate, you would receive an F and lose. Your response was akin to walking up to the podium looking at your adversary and saying "you're wrong" then turning around and sitting down...just expecting you won. I am a strong believer in states rights so if they want to issue IDs drawn with crayons fine. But no one should expect federal authorities to accept such garbage when the states are doing NOTHING to verify the identity. I would love for you to provide some examples of his errors.
May 12, 2009
Yes, we need to expect congress to READ what bills are proposed. The PASS ID Act is a BAD, BAD idea. We need to protect our Republic by expecting all those in it to be here legally and have proper ID.
john frazier
May 12, 2009
proper i.d.for "legals" is a good idea being here "legal" is the key word
Carol, AZ
May 12, 2009
Can anyone out there ask themselves Where is the correct accountability on any level for Gov't, or business? HOW CAN THIS COUNTRY APPOINT LEADERSHIP THAT WILL ALLOW A SYSTEM TO BE SET-up and "LOOK THE OTHER WAY ON ILLFGAL DOUC." I HAVE HAD MY I.D. STOLEN ONCE. Guess what? It was an illegal person who did this and to others as well. He had about 12 different I.D's including the I.D of a deceased dentist in Scottsdale, AZ. If the system suggested is dydfuctional to begin with, where is the tracability ? How can there be accountability on any level? I feel so powerless to think that this could even be a consideration on any legal level. I'm also really ashamed of our electd leadership. Carol , AZ
Joel Williams
May 12, 2009
The PASS ID ACT should come as no surprise to us. The Democrats understand that amnesty, in whatever way they can make it happen, guarantees them the Mexican vote and thus power for years to come. Our legislators, both sides of the aisle, criminally neglect their oath to uphold the Constitution and this is just one more example. We, the American voter, have allowed that to happen and the only action that can reverse the process is term limits. Joel Williams Norcross, Georgia
terryrfreeman@msn.com
May 12, 2009
With the activities of organizations like ACORN doing illegal registrations it is esential that tamper proof IDs are required by every LEGAL citizen. Others need to go home or to jail!!!!
Jim Walling
May 12, 2009
Here they go again! No new laws/legislation is required, simply enforce those that are already on the books.
Phil
May 12, 2009
I just don't get it!! What is sp hard to understand in "ILLEGAL" immigrant? If you are doing something illegal, as a citizen, you are not given a free pass you are penalized. Why is Capitol Hill giving all of these benefits to people who are breaking the law? This to me is utterly ludicrous.
BigTom
May 12, 2009
How many faces does this old battle axe have? I have never heard anyone (except B rack and Hillary) flip-flop so much in my life. You cannot have total accountability with this many illeagles running around. I could get rich selling the fertilizer she spues....
BigTom
May 12, 2009
How many faces does this old battle axe have? I have never heard anyone (except B rack and Hillary) flip-flop so much in my life. You cannot have total accountability with this many illeagles running around. I could get rich selling the fertilizer she spues....
KLIMAX
May 12, 2009
All states need an I.D. system that can not be forged,copied, or used by someone other that the true owner! Maryland recently adopted legal presence requirement to get a driver license or official I.D. but allowed 350,000 illegal aliens to use their existing licenses until 2015. Obviously the politicians were afraid of a back lash from organisations like CASA of MD.
KLIMAX
May 12, 2009
All states need an I.D. system that can not be forged,copied, or used by someone other that the true owner! Maryland recently adopted legal presence requirement to get a driver license or official I.D. but allowed 350,000 illegal aliens to use their existing licenses until 2015. Obviously the politicians were afraid of a back lash from organisations like CASA of MD.
womanofjoy
May 12, 2009
Explasin to me why illegal aliens are more important that U.S. citizens. They get cheaper health care than I do. What is wrong with having ID's? Do they have something to hide? I don't!
Milton S.
May 12, 2009
Anyone and everyone who opposes REAL ID has an agenda that does not include the security of the USA. Whatever their reason, it is based on other than what is best for the United States; they're willing to settle for second, third, fourth best --and worse. Is America being selfish in this? No way! Anyone who opposes REAL ID in any manner is only being selfish, willing to let America suffer while they get their way. In light of what terrorists can do if given the opportunity, anything illegal is not acceptable and must be stopped. It really doesn't matter whether you like it or not. The security of the USA is at stake.
I.D. Pro
May 12, 2009
Arguments against REAL I.D. made by the ACLU and others are weak. Existing licenses are now being counterfeited everywhere. In Los Angeles, anyone with $250 can buy one with any name or photo they'd like, and it'll be accepted without question for bank loans, travel, and real estate or gun purchases. So any improvement in the validity of these documents will improve security at all levels. And anyone who thinks their personal information is secure NOW is either naive or lives in a cave.
William E Arnold
May 12, 2009
All non citizens need to have a national identification/work card. This will help keep track of them and insure that they pay taxes on their earned income.
Dean G. Newman
May 12, 2009
Illegal is illegal anyway one looks at it. Any attempt including this one which paves the path to any form of amnesty undercuts the economy, culture, and safety of this country. God Bless Ameerica. Let's do something in the immigration area which strenghthens the county--not gives us new problems.
Judith
May 12, 2009
It's high time our Senators and Congressmen get the message - illegal is illegal and should be treated as such. Real ID would certainly be a good step in the right direction.
Donna
May 12, 2009
It's difficult to impossible to build and have faith in our system when it shows such inability to follow through with the good action. This cancerous looking chewing away at stability is disconcerting and smacks of deception practices. We need honesty, purity of purpose and protection of our land not lackadaisical and frivolous arguments that stall and practice to deceive.
rcullen
May 12, 2009
I'm not opposed to some form of amnesty for illegals. The're here and we're probably not sending them home. So let's guit aleinating the hispanic vote.
Alf
May 12, 2009
It seems like two different issues are being combined here; security and illegal immigration. A national ID card to me seems like a sensible way to deal with both issues. Is the problem a possible loss of votes for one party? And is this a good reason for neglecting national security issues? The hypocrisy here is almost beyond belief.
Ziglet10
May 12, 2009
You've got to be kidding me. The PASS ID act?! Truly, this is the worst Speaker of the House our country has ever known. I have yet to meet a Democrat in my state that gives her any credence. The PASS ID act obviously diminishes national security. I don't know who these people are that support such stupidity, but I'll wager that there's something in it for them to do so. I feel our country's safety and security waning. Those of you that cannot are either ignorant, idealogues, or complacent in the comforts of our beloved America; comforts that will not survive if such bills come to pass. Mark my words. You heard it here. I wish I could hear from you all in 2 to 5 years.
Ziglet10
May 12, 2009
Tighten security, not loosen it. Leave it to Pelosi and her ilk to compromise the safety and security of our beloved America. Watch and see. I guess a number of people haven't seen the hispanics inverting our flag and placing it below Mexico's right here in the good ol' US of A. It appears that many "intellects" cannot see the writing on the wall nor anticipate the events coming down the pike. Why should American citizens pay for IDs of any sort for those who are not citizens? Why would we want to? Insanity reigns in Washington. And I thought it was bad before. Sheesh.
Ziglet10
May 12, 2009
Tighten security, not loosen it. Leave it to Pelosi and her ilk to compromise the safety and security of our beloved America. Watch and see. I guess a number of people haven't seen the hispanics inverting our flag and placing it below Mexico's right here in the good ol' US of A. It appears that many "intellects" cannot see the writing on the wall nor anticipate the events coming down the pike. Why should American citizens pay for IDs of any sort for those who are not citizens? Why would we want to? Insanity reigns in Washington. And I thought it was bad before. Sheesh.
Steve
May 12, 2009
Problem is in Washington, DC, the corruption runs so deep that the Democrats, who are now somewhere left Lenin, truly want dictatorial power over our lives. The Republicans are nothing more that the progressives of the 1912 and forward era. It is time for the citizens of this country to take back the power we have so sleepily given away. Whether this taking is peaceful or not depends on the scum in DC. Oh, this includes the media as well.
mlm
May 12, 2009
I have a hard time understanding why so many people elected so many idiots "hell" bent on destroying & taking this great country down a path of "NO RETURN". Instead of protecting our borders and making it harder for (read the words) ILLEGAL ALIENS to enter our country, our liberal "idiots" want to give our country away to those who are here ILLEGALLY. They want to give the ILLEGALS a free pass, free IDs, "my" Social Security,free college tuition & more & more. Nancy Pelosi is nothing more than a rhetorical liar is willing to turn the United States of America into the Un-United Sates of Amexico. God help us all.
Steve Jarnagan
May 12, 2009
This has been a long time coming and for no good reason. We have the right to control access through our borders and to know who comes in. Real ID may not be all that we want, but it is better than what we have had. Let's start with something.
frankcott
May 12, 2009
Who do the politicians represent, American or foreigners? I wish the democrats would have the bulz to stand up to principles and implement the "REAL ID" program. Maybe it's time for good democratic voters fooled by the liberal take over of their party, to run and replace Pelosi and others.
Jan
May 12, 2009
I would support any option that ensures the security/integrity of our borders and points of entry to the U.S. Our government and representatives have not served us well because they have not protected the citizens of this country. I am totally opposed to any sort of ID or driving licenses for illegals as well as any amnesty for lawbreakers.
Jim Blank
May 12, 2009
Illegal aliens need to be removed from the United States as quickly as possible. REAL ID supports this position and should be fully supported. I'll bet AZ supports REAL ID now.
BOB ARMOUR
May 12, 2009
ITS HARD TO BILIEVE THAT THERE ARE SO MANY IDIOTS LEADING THE DEM.PARTY.ON THE OTHER HAND THE REP PARTY HAS FORGOTTEN WHAT THERE PARTY STANDS FOR AND ARE AFRAID TO STAND UP AND BE COUNTED.BOTH PARTIES ARE CHEST HIGH IN CORRUPTION. BOTH NEED TO BE ELIMATED AND A NEW PARTY FORMED.IT DOES'T TAKE A ROCKET SICENCETIST TO FIGURE OUT A TWO PARTY SYSTEM IS CORRUPT...REAPER1369
SAS
May 13, 2009
I think it's time to have REAL ID. When I was in Hawaii last year, every time I used my credit card, they asked to see my driver's license. I did not feel disenfranchised. I felt safe. I think REAL ID should be shown to register to vote and to get a driver's license. Bring along your birth certificate if you want to register to vote. Simple. Makes voter fraud more difficult.
William McGehee
May 13, 2009
Display and Practice the Real ID Act!!
William McGehee
May 13, 2009
The government and everyone else knows that the US Public does not want any kind of Amnesty so why do you insijt on shouving it down our throats???
Randolph Gunter
May 13, 2009
My position is simple:Congress should (Must, if they care about our country as our founding Fathers envisioned it)immediately abandon all efforts to enact the "Pass ID" bill and make the "Real ID" mandatory (remove the Waiver feature) as recommended by the 9-11 Commision. That is the only ligical, common sense thing Nancy Pelosi has recommended since she became House Speaker!! Amnesty for illegal aliens is completely illogical and is a disasterously hurtful idea economically. Further enacting amnesty would trumpet to the world anew that America is insencere about the "Rule of Law." Also "We" would be signaling to the terrorist world that welcome mat is out and that they need not fear our law enforcemwnt or military.......that "we" are just a "Paper Tiger" after all!! Thank you, RWG
Karl Kline
May 13, 2009
By government and employers purposely not enforcing the already existing laws on the books has caused this tragic disaster we now have. I have a solution: enforce the laws; no exceptions, no excuses, no sympathy. In other words, JUSTICE. Where are the constitutional lawyers with the guts to take any and all perpetrators (including government officials who have violated our laws and their oaths) to court and start deportation (the excuse that its too late and there are too many is an unwarranted excuse.) Will these measures be tough? Yes. Anyone out there who can come up with a solution that beats the existing laws on the books, I have yet to here.
Frisco
May 13, 2009
The ID program is being resisted not because it makes sense, but because it would not allow these aliens to vote. That is the sole reason why Liberals are promoting amnesty.
Frisco
May 13, 2009
The ID program is being resisted not because it makes sense, but because it would not allow these aliens to vote. That is the sole reason why Liberals are promoting amnesty.
MJK
May 13, 2009
Idiots...any American who IS an American has an I.D.; it is called a "drivers license" and/or a "Birth Certificate." There is NO reason to require AMERICANS to prove who they are...it is the requirement of the Immigrant. The solution is simple: CLOSE THE BORDERS, and ENFORCE THE LAW! WAKE UP!
Lynn Guffee
May 13, 2009
Congress needs to stop illegal immigrants-not reward them. Pelosi and her Democratic Congressional members are slowly but shurely destroying the U.S.
Anthony V. Petricca
May 13, 2009
"Illegal" means illegal !-no parsing in Federal or State or Local terms!
rAY
May 13, 2009
I FIND THIS WHOLE ISSUE A TERRIBLE JOKE. I AM NOT SURE ANYONE PAYS ATTENTION TO THE WORD ILLEGAL, I THINK IF YOU LOOK UP THE DEFINITION OF ILLEGAL ALIEN THAT THE QUESTION IS ANSWERED.
Mantford
May 13, 2009
I do not want to live in a state where we need to produce our identity papers as in cold war Europe. Rather, any one here should be either a citizen or here as a legal guest.
Georgia Hunt
May 13, 2009
We need stricter ID security especially in our airports. It is wrong to reward some one who is in our country illegally by making it easier to get identification and take advantage of our nateral US citizenship rights. It is a real shame that American citizens are being punished for little minute acts and illegal immigrants are allowed to violate most of our laws. It seems that its better to be an illegal immigrant than a US citizen anymore. If you were born and raised in this country, that should stand for something. If you have a problem with our country and the rights we have, there are plenty of other countries that you can move to.
napoleon
May 13, 2009
I feel that the early death of P.K. too the end of bushs,the country left the American people to fin for them selves,P.O is try to correct those mistakes,thank you.
Herb Hawkins
May 13, 2009
REAL ID is an anathema to our enemies. I.e., Doom on those who conspire to impede the recruitment of leftist voters.
May 13, 2009
Government is not the answer to the problem, Government is the problem...Ronald Reagan. Government has only served to sink us deeper and deeper into the economic and social problems that grow ever larger and dire. Our Founders were extremely insightful in writing our Constitution and Bill of Rights, which predicted the outcome of government corruption when too much power is assumed by a few. Had we been following our Constitution,we would not now be facing these horrific issues socially or economically.
John Schuh
May 13, 2009
As one who carried around a federal ID card for more than 30 years, I don't have much sympathy for those who protest when required to produce a valid picture ID. My guess is that they are really unhappy with the prices charged by the counterfeiters.
Lisa
May 13, 2009
Why is it we are the only country who is made to feel"guilty" for protecting our sovereignty?
You can keep the "change"
May 13, 2009
People who want amnesty are looking for one thing - more votes. This is all about giving more entitlements to voters so they vote democrat/liberal. They don't care about the safety of this country or its citizens. It's all about their power. We need term limits after we vote out this corrupt set of politicians. Including the messiah.
Richard
May 13, 2009
The May 9, 2009 Wall Street Journal article “More Acorn Voter Fraud Comes to Light” By John Fund mentions that “Congressional Democrats are backing a bill to mandate a nationwide data base to automatically register, (meaning register to vote), driver’s license holders or recipients of government benefits.” So step one is to use the Pass ID Act to allow illegal immigrants to get a drivers license. Step two is to mandate that people holding drivers licenses are automatically registered to vote, so that convicted felons, illegal aliens, and GITMO terrorists brought to the U.S. and put on welfare will automatically be registered to vote. Can anyone help me understand what happened to the requirement of being a citizen in order to have voting rights?
William A Yensen
May 13, 2009
Congress needs to make all legal citizerns have a tamper-proof ID of some kind. This would stop illegal aliens and ID thieves in their tracks!
Bruce W.
May 13, 2009
I am all in favor of the Real ID Act. We need to take our country back from those that aren't supposed to be here and those that refuse to come into our country the right way.Let us never forget 9/11/2001. Semper Fi !!!
Bruce W.
May 13, 2009
I am all in favor of the Real ID Act. We need to take our country back from those that aren't supposed to be here and those that refuse to come into our country the right way.Let us never forget 9/11/2001. Semper Fi !!!
Robert Moore
May 13, 2009
I like The Heritage Foundation. I think they are doing a good job of keeping the people informed on issues that the "drive-by media" wont tell you about, or they will cover up the truth amout issues they and their liberal friends believe in. Keep up the good work Heritage.
Robert Moore
May 13, 2009
I like The Heritage Foundation. I think they are doing a good job of keeping the people informed on issues that the "drive-by media" wont tell you about, or they will cover up the truth amout issues they and their liberal friends believe in. Keep up the good work Heritage.
swedeman
May 13, 2009
In years to come it will come out Pres. George Bush planned and executed 911 and that's his excuse for invading Iraq. Look at the mess we are in. Enough said
Gilbert de Zubia
May 14, 2009
The new real ID is not only a needed security protection, it is as well an economic control again illegal employment.
Buck
May 14, 2009
Those who oppose the REAL ID are looking not only to legalize illegal aliens but want to continue the voter fraud that has been the result with no federal requirement for positive ID while voting in federal elections. This has allowed illegals and undocumented persons to vote.
Rose, Ca.
May 14, 2009
If U.S. President Obama doesn't have to show proof of citizenship or be vetted to take over an entire nation; national security; and given a blank check to the U.S. taxpayers bank account and nearly bankrupt it; then why should any citizen have to have proof of citizenship? Illegals and criminals don't have proof of citizenship and they have fake IDs. The only people being victimized by all of the security regulations and checks are law abiding natural born or legal U.S. citizens who pay taxes. Unfortunately, the laws don't apply to all people, obviously. If the borders can't be closed and terrorists and drug cartels can enter our country without ID, as well, what's the point of wasting our tax dollars to track legal citizens who follow the law?
Earth Dance
May 14, 2009
I can't believe we're even bothering to debate this. ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE ILLEGAL - period! They claim they have left their own countries to pursue "the American Dream" and then turn around and try to turn our great nation into the country they left behind. They do NOT have rights, should NOT have a voice in American politics, and it's appalling that we allow them such latitude and discussion. Being well-traveled, I can assure you that other countries wouldn't put up with our ILLEGAL migration to their homelands. Since when do we allow such flagrant disrespect of our laws??? It's like Pelosi and her ilk are in some type of stupor and definitely don't care about the safety, security, and laws of the United States of America!!! If they're illegal, get them OUT OF HERE!
Eric Fredrickson
May 15, 2009
One of the primary reasons federal government exists is to protect the people from invasion. By not enforcing border control, both parties will invalidate their legitimate claim to govern under the law. Republicans especially, as the last bastion of freedom vs socialism in America, must recognize this fact or cease being a meaningful voice in public affairs. If John Locke had any wisdom at all, we should fear the consequences that will result when vast numbers of Americans decide that their federal government is no longer legitimate.
ccesq
May 17, 2009
Either this is a nation of laws or it is not. That is is becoming a nation of no-law is indicated by the number of "laws" that are enacted yet never acted upon. Either a person is in the US legally or s/he is not. Either an employer is employing people who are legally entitled to work in the US or s/he is not. Those two law are basic and enforceable, yet we have permitted our elected representatives to bury these laws and enact statutes that, by letting those charged with enforcing laws to pick and choose or ignore wholesale provisions with which they agree or disagree, laws become meaningless. It is useless to think that Congress as currently constituted will pass any law that is not subject to "situational enforcement" or which will be tied up in the morass of judicial interpretation. As much as I hate a national anything, there has to be a way to identify every man, woman and child who is entitled to be in this country. I haven't seen it in REAL ID or PASS ID.
ccesq
May 17, 2009
Either this is a nation of laws or it is not. That is is becoming a nation of no-law is indicated by the number of "laws" that are enacted yet never acted upon. Either a person is in the US legally or s/he is not. Either an employer is employing people who are legally entitled to work in the US or s/he is not. Those two law are basic and enforceable, yet we have permitted our elected representatives to bury these laws and enact statutes that, by letting those charged with enforcing laws to pick and choose or ignore wholesale provisions with which they agree or disagree, laws become meaningless. It is useless to think that Congress as currently constituted will pass any law that is not subject to "situational enforcement" or which will be tied up in the morass of judicial interpretation. As much as I hate a national anything, there has to be a way to identify every man, woman and child who is entitled to be in this country. I haven't seen it in REAL ID or PASS ID.
Sheila
May 17, 2009
All security measures that have been in place since 9/ll should stay in place for the safety of every American. Also,an IDcard is a perfect way to keep track of all people,not only illegals who should not be running around our country without proper id Without real ID we are definitely not being kept safe.It's time that politics be put aside and our safety our number 1 concern. It's quite obvious that the left wants immigration in a big way so that the Democratic party will grow expontenially. Enough do the right thing-keep us safe from harm.
Sheila
May 17, 2009
All security measures that have been in place since 9/ll should stay in place for the safety of every American. Also,an IDcard is a perfect way to keep track of all people,not only illegals who should not be running around our country without proper id Without real ID we are definitely not being kept safe.It's time that politics be put aside and our safety our number 1 concern. It's quite obvious that the left wants immigration in a big way so that the Democratic party will grow expontenially. Enough do the right thing-keep us safe from harm.
Jerry Bogus
May 18, 2009
We need an I.D. system just as soon as we get rid of ALL of the illegal immigrants who sponge off us taxpayers and steal American jobs. A national DNA I.D. list would be another avenue to harness up criminals who are repeat offenders. Let's do it NOW Washington Bureaucrats! Get off of your behinds and do something for America. Don't ever forget who your employer is??? Ticked Off Conservative - Oxford, MI
jr
May 19, 2009
I support the Real ID act because it protects Americans. It's time for us to protect Americans first, only then are we capable of helping out others. If we do not seal our borders, there will be another attack, and who wants that? Why are so many people against protecting America? Sopporting the Real ID Act helps our cause. That is, if your cause is an Amercan one like mine. We can be from any where in the world, thats what makes America great. But when we are in America, we are Americans and need to start acting like it. Live and protect the American dream.
jr
May 19, 2009
I support the Real ID act because it protects Americans. It's time for us to protect Americans first, only then are we capable of helping out others. If we do not seal our borders, there will be another attack, and who wants that? Why are so many people against protecting America? Sopporting the Real ID Act helps our cause. That is, if your cause is an Amercan one like mine. We can be from any where in the world, thats what makes America great. But when we are in America, we are Americans and need to start acting like it. Live and protect the American dream.
wiser
May 23, 2009
A little more. We as citizen's did not allow the terrorists responsible for September 11th to enter our country...the governing agencies did. THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE for a breakdown in the system. Now, they are bringing out focus on "In the interest of National Security"? Why not implement tougher rules to those coming into the US? Oh, I know, because we are ripe to capitalize on their power. In the interest of "National Security", the president is now given authority to pass stuff like the patriot act without passing it by the citizens. WHY CAN'T WE JUST HAVE STRICTER GUIDELINES FOR ENTRY INTO THE US FROM A FOREIGN COUNTRY?
wiser
May 23, 2009
What does it cost? * Washington: $15 more than the standard driver license * Vermont: $25 more than the standard driver license * New York: $30 more than the standard driver license * Michigan: $20 more than the standard driver license This compares to $100 for a first-time passport book, so the costs savings can be material if the license works for your specific travel needs.
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