HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) — Lawyers for Penn State and Pennsylvania's three other "state-related" universities are again making the case that they shouldn't be subject to most of the provisions of the state Right-to-Know Law.

The attorneys said during a four-hour legislative hearing on proposed changes to the state's main open-records law Monday that it shouldn't be expanded to apply to them as it does to the 14 state-owned schools in the State System of Higher Education.

The universities' lawyers say it's not simply a matter of cost, although they did argue it would create an administrative burden.

They say putting Penn State, Pitt, Lincoln and Temple under the law could have negative unintended consequences.

They say they aren't state agencies and argue their special category under the current law is appropriate.