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Huntsman strategist: If Palin and Limbaugh dominate, GOP 'headed for a blowout' in 2012

By: Byron York
Chief Political Correspondent
May 17, 2009

File photo: Then-Utah governor Jon Huntsman speaks to reporters about a collapse at the Crandall Canyon coal mine August 17, 2007 near Huntington, Utah. (Justin Sullivan/Getty Images)

The Republican strategist who helped Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman prepare for a possible presidential run says the Republican party is in for a devastating defeat if its guiding lights are Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh and Dick Cheney.  "If it's 2012 and our party is defined by Palin and Limbaugh and Cheney, then we're headed for a blowout," says strategist John Weaver, who advised Huntsman and was for years a close adviser to Sen. John McCain. "That's just the truth."

Huntsman, a favorite of GOP moderates, left the Republican presidential race last week after accepting President Obama's offer to become U.S. ambassador to China.  Before that, Huntsman appeared to be working hard on preparations for 2012. "He had not made a decision to run for president, but he had made a decision to prepare to run," says Weaver.  "We were probably a month away from announcing the formation of a political action committee, so we were pretty far down the road."

As an example of that preparation, Huntsman in February traveled to Columbia, South Carolina for a meeting with state business and political leaders, including Henry McMaster, the Republican state attorney general who is considering a run for governor. "A lot of candidates are not very good unless they're on cue cards or talking points, but Huntsman just opened it up for questions," says Richard Quinn, a longtime South Carolina Republican strategist who worked for McCain in 2000 and 2008.  "Everybody was extremely impressed…he seemed to me to be a bright hope for 2012."

In March, Huntsman held a fundraiser for McMaster in Utah, the kind of you-help-me-I'll-help-you arrangement that is key for a potential presidential candidate looking to build support in early primary states.

Now, Huntsman's decision to accept the president's invitation to serve as ambassador to China effectively means he is out of the 2012 contest.  "President Obama is smart to try to get him out of play, because he's the real thing," says Quinn.  Weaver says Obama came up with pretty much the only job that Huntsman would have accepted. "Had it been a cabinet post or any kind of political situation, he would have flatly turned it down," Weaver says.  "But this China post -- he's uniquely qualified to serve."  As a young man, Huntsman went to Taiwan as a Mormon missionary, where he learned the language and developed a lifelong interest in China.  In the 1990s, Huntsman also served briefly as U.S. ambassador to Singapore.

In addition to being out of the 2012 presidential race, Huntsman is also out of the ongoing debate over the future of the Republican party. Quinn, who met with Huntsman during the visit to South Carolina, says the Utah governor "seemed to be highly motivated to try to re-brand the Republican party as an institution that can win elections all across the country."  Now, Huntsman won't be doing that, not only because it would not be a proper role for an ambassador but also because he will be thousands of miles away in Beijing.

That leaves the wide-open GOP presidential field even more open than it had been before.  Whatever happens, the way forward won't likely be smooth; Weaver's "headed for a blowout" comment indicates the depth of division over the GOP's prospects. "I firmly believe that Huntsman and people like him are the prescription for what ails us," says Weaver. "But I have the feeling that our party maybe won't order that prescription in 2012."



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bobc

May 18, 2009

Didn't he support Obama during the campaigns and his dad supported McCain?

 

Jerry in Michigan

May 18, 2009

This coming from a strategist who was a long-time advisor to a candidate who ran two losing presidential campaigns? Why should conservatives support DemLite? Give us a leader that HOLDS FIRM to core conservative values and we'll put that person in the White House.

 

hatelibs

May 18, 2009

If this guy John Weaver is trying to tell us how to run the GOP, all we have to do is look back and see how his ""GEM"" McCain did in 2008. This guy just needs to go to the back of the room and shut his pie-hole as he sounds like a lot of hot-air. If Palin hadn't been McDummies running mate he would have gotten whipped worse than he did. She was the only energy in his run for the W.H. Please Mr Weaver join Arlen and Jumpin Jim and switch parties, oops it sounds like you already have...........

 

John

May 18, 2009

You'll forgive me if I don't accept advise from a McCain adviser. Nominating someone like McCain in 2012 is the recipe for a blowout. Plus, there is no indication that Limbaugh, Cheney or even Palin will dominate the GOP landscape in '12. All indications are that the frontrunners for the nomination will be Romney, Newt and Mark Sanford. Huntsman's dreams of being the nominee were just dreams. Otherwise, he would not be headed to Bejing.

 

George Hanshaw

May 18, 2009

I know, the party regulars who have been in politics forever are the ones that the Northeast establishment want all the rest of us to listen to. These same guys who thought the best candidates were guys like Gerald Ford, George Bush 41, Bob Dole and John McCain.

You know, politicians who had been inside the beltway forever.

Time for something new. Give Palin or some other outsider a try. They can't do much worse than these losers.

 

noc

May 18, 2009

A moderate would suffer a greater blowout. Republicans need bold colors not pale pastels.

Besides how many times can democrats run on giving 95% of workers a tax cut while also greatly expanding services?

Have any of these so called strategists even begun to consider how empty the democrats plans are for 2012?

 

JoseDFarias

May 18, 2009

Well, we will find out, won't we? Because I doubt a liberal or moderate Republican will make through the primaries and furthermore we will see how bad Republicans do on the next mid-term election.

 

Brad

May 18, 2009

A blow out? So we need real leadership like that given by McCain? Right. The GOP must return to it roots, which is Limbaugh, Reagan, Goldwater, Buckley (not Chris) and people like Sarah Palin. We need modeates, who are true liberals, like a hole in the head.

 

Gaius

May 18, 2009

Amazing. It's like everyone associated with McCain campaign thinks they won the election.

A bizarre form of group hypnosis? I don't know...

 

May 18, 2009

It's so easy to point fingers at those who you claim must not represent the Republican party. And much more difficult to say what you actually stand for. What a gutless hack.

 

Virgil Caine

May 18, 2009

Maybe John Weaver can explain why the Democrats can be led by Howard Dean and The Daily Koz and win while we have to hide reasonable people like Sarah Palin, Rush, and Dick Cheney.

 

Jack Bauer

May 18, 2009

Let me guess Weaver's previous campaign successes...

DOLE, FORD, DEWEY, BENEDICT ARNOLD, GEORGE III...

 

Very Nice

May 18, 2009

As a liberal, I can't be more pleased by the comments I see here.

Yes, Republicans, please, let your party be led by Palin, Limbaugh and Cheney. Let your party's march to irrelevance continue.

 

Jack Bauer

May 18, 2009

Thank dimwit liberal. Keep telling yourself that.

 

Dave

May 18, 2009

I tend to agree with those here who express indignation with Hunstman's adviser suggestion that the presence of Rush limabaugh and Sara Palin in 2012 spell disaster for the Republicans. I wish he'd shut up about it too. The longer that Darth Vader and the drug addled gas bag and Governor "I can see Russia from my house ", keeps it up the better.

 

savage24

May 18, 2009

Why is it that all these great hopes are moderates? I view these moderates as one step above socialist and not worthy of being called a Republican.

 

Al

May 18, 2009

Yeah, we saw how well it went for "moderate" republicans when they demonize Rush Limbaugh. Some congressional gains there, huh? Trying to act more like democrats. McCain shot ahead in the polls when Sarah P. joined the ticket. Then the democrats in their controlled congress pulled their dirty acorn tricks with the economy and the election.

 

sue

May 18, 2009

John Weaver misses a vital component to his 'moderate' strategy, that being, President Obama's economic Gordian Knot will strangle the American people to the point that whoever lives to survive the impending High Misery Index will detest anything remotely associated with Democrat or Moderate.

Talk is cheap when American wallets are being stolen; voters will be begging for Conservatives to restore the money Democrats and Moderate politicians stole right out from under American voters noses.

 

Barry

May 18, 2009

"pulled their dirty acorn tricks with the economy and the election"

You are a fool. Your guy lost the election and the GOP is doomed by morons like Palin and Limbaugh.

 

Sandy Sanders

May 18, 2009

I still think Gov. Bobby Jindal or Cong. Ron Paul are the best choices for the GOP. Find out more at www.jindal2012blog.com or www.ronpaul.com

Sandy

 

Gene Carr

May 18, 2009

Why are people like Huntsman, Powell, Megan McCann, David Frum, etc called "moderates". What is "moderate" about more big Government, more taxes, more regulation by presumptious apparachiks, more marraige and family decline and more abortions. Surely all these policies are definitionally "extremist", whereas the positions of Governors such as Sarah Palin are reasonable and moderate. Indeed they are so reasonable and moderate that her most bitter opponents in Alaska are on the Far Rightas much are the looney Left.

 

Steve from Wisconsin

May 18, 2009

I'm so tired of hearing these so-called moderate Republicans tell the party who it should be. If the GOP embraces folks like Colin Powell, Meghan McCain, etc., we should fold up and quit. Fortunately I see a movement happening over time as people begin to see Obama for who he is and as they watch America sink into the abyss under a mountain of debt. I'm not sure what role Palin and Limbaugh will play in 2012, but their conservative views are where we need to be. And the louder that liberals keep saying that is a road to irrelevance, the more I'm convinced we're on the right track.

 

sue

May 18, 2009

If an important economic indicator found in the American railroad activity (ie moving of goods) shows anything, it is the spiraling downward economic activity.

Railroad activity is down 20% from the diminished activity seen in the first quarter and we are half-way through the second quarter.

Many Americans made lots of money since 2000 and are not expecting Change meant an ever increasing economic downward spiral.

President Obama's Gordian Knot will cost Democrats dearly.

 

BobinOakland

May 18, 2009

The comments show that this is great news for Democrats. Keep tearing yourselves apart Republicans. And please make Limbaugh and Palin your standard-bearers. Nothing says values like an ex(?)-pill popper and a pro-abstinence woman with an un-wed teenage mother for a daughter. You Republicans are pure comedy.

 

Nancy

May 18, 2009

Moderates are a ticket to disaster. Who needs Democrat-Lite? If you want to go that road, vote the real thing. Otherwise, maybe somebody who sticks by his principles would be a better choice.

No McCains or Powells for me. I'll take Palin, Rush and Cheyney for my examples any time.

 

icebergslim

May 18, 2009

Ridiculous comments.

Republicans you lost because you lost the MIDDLE. Yes the independent vote.

Everyone on here talking Palin, have you looked at her numbers from women and independents? They ran away from her once she opened her mouth and saw the nasty, despicable rallys she had. That is the truth.

Until you can have a candidate that govens, yes, govens from the middle you won't win the presidency, AGAIN.

And while at it, what about losing the young voter and new voters? You did nothing to reach out to them. You did not address their concerns which are not the same as the older members of the Republicans. Finally, can you look more like America and not like an old, grumpy, Caucasian man? That is a death nail on your coffin, you inability to expand your base. Major problem

 

EX-McCainiac

May 18, 2009

John Weaver was a democrat who fell out with Karl Rove, and as McCain advisor, was probably responsible for McCain nearly defecting to the Democrats in 2000, during Bush v. Gore, and again 2004 when McCain flirted with joining John Kerry on the Dem ticket.

Weaver just wants power, period. He's for sale.



Weaver

 

tyler

May 18, 2009

its funny when the libtards get on here and say oh ya keep fighting and turn to rush and palin youll definitly lose then. that should tell us all we need to know. the libtards want us to go moderate so don't do it. common sense will win and i have faith there are more americans with common sense than not. and obamas gonna get old fast to a lot of people i cant stand hearing him talk.

 

BooBooBear

May 18, 2009

People, you better really LISTEN to what comes out of Palin's mouth. It is a complete word salad. If you disect her sentences, she really speaks just plain jibberish. She has 14 ethics complaints filed on her recently and she lies at the drop of the hat. She is NOT what she appears to be and is clearly out of her league.

 

timb

May 18, 2009

Al, so lost, so uninformed, so conspiracy minded. Look, AL! there's an ACORN person hiding under your bed! Look, Al, there's ACORN controlling Hank Paulson and George Bush and master-minded the TARP program! How DO they do it.

Heck, I hope they can get you to run, Al

 

possumdearie

May 18, 2009

Huntsman can take this loser with him to China.

 

R.I.P GOP

May 18, 2009

Republicans,

Your downward spiral to the deepest garbage road into irrelevence is quite inspiring. Keep moving to the far right of losers, secessionists, grug addicts, and tea baggers, hopefully your "party" will shrink even more embarrasingly from 21% to 12%.

You're all doing wonderful!

 

BellaMia

May 18, 2009

Palin, is the Goddess of Energy, promoting domestic energy production. She is for sane, responsive, respectful government for an independent people. I guess that makes her extreme to the progressive moderates who want to dictate harmful policies.

 

bellaMia

May 18, 2009

All of the ethics complaints against Palin have been dismissed, except 3, which are in the process of being dismissed. Why doesn't Obama have dozens of ethics complaints against him for all his illegal shinanegans with Rezko and Blago?

 

Ole Sparky

May 18, 2009

After the 1994 blowout of Democrats in Congress, Democrats lurched way to the left. An ideological purging occurred that made the party more purely liberal. And look at where they're at now. A similar thing needs to happen to Republicans, except they need to move to the right. They need to become more purely conservative. If that means getting rid of Arlen Specter, Susan Collins, Olympia Snow, and "wonder-consultants" like Mr. Weaver, good riddance.

 

RIck

May 18, 2009

The GOP is sham political party which exists only to provide the illusion of choice. Politics is not the answer, because our political system and our government are illegitimate and run by an elite oligarchy. The answer is for free men to separate and form a new nation that will restore the Constitution. Let the liberal fascists have the "blue" regions and let them have the national debt as well.

 

Mac

May 18, 2009

LOL!!!

Oh what joy! Republicans, keep shifting right, far right. Your ideas are moldy and stale. Your leaders are morally bankrupt and stupid. Keep it up with the hard right turn to your ideological extremes and you will make yourselves the minority for a long time to come.
Every word from a Republicans mouth is a lie. And the majority of Americans are waking up to those lies. Keep up the good work. And BTW. Jesus was a Liberal.

 

magic@dog.com

May 18, 2009

The only future for the Republican Party is to purify it!

 

SocraticGadfly

May 18, 2009

What doofuses.

Reagan was no more a conservative by the lights of you all today than Obama is a real progressive.

Goldwater got crushed on the national stage.

Bill Buckley and Rush never ran for political office. Bill's brother was an inconsequential one-term senator. Ron Paul will never rise higher than his current House seat.

 

The Wolfman

May 18, 2009

"After the 1994 blowout of Democrats in Congress, Democrats lurched way to the left. An ideological purging occurred that made the party more purely liberal. And look at where they're at now."

No, look what it got them AFTER 1994. 12 years in the political wilderness. They didn't hold a significant majority again until 2006, AFTER Howard Dean instituted the 50-State Strategy and began to run MODERATE Democrats in states that used to be solidly Republican. The Dems lurched to the left in '94 and it cost them for over a decade. America is neither liberal or conservative, we are moderate. Until the GOP learns that, they'll be in the same wilderness the Democrats were in for 12 years.

 

John in Chicago

May 18, 2009

LMAO @ the Rethug circular firing squad! GoOPers have lost the middle, the latinos and anyone under the age of 35. Regardless of whether thy nominate a moderate, or a rabid reich winger like Newt, they will be the minority party for a generation or two, at least.

 

May 18, 2009

Yeah, moderate's the way to go. It worked just great in 2008, not to mention the last eight years. sheesh.

 

Pignuts

May 18, 2009

Guess what party I belong to?

Republicans need to cleanse their ranks of RINOs. Anyone who isn't 100% pro-life, anyone who believes government can do any good under any circumstance, anyone who believes gays are not destroying the sanctity of marriage, anyone who believes in anything short of deporting every last illegal immigrant, anyone who would impede the unfettered right to carry any sort of firearm anywhere has no business in the Republican party.

Go on guess.

 

Dave

May 18, 2009

No to Huntsman! Cheney for President!

 

severed

May 18, 2009

Good ridence, a fake republican in Utah would be a mistake for the GOP in 2012. I am a mormon and he has no cred with me and very few mormons would let him be the commander and chief cause we don't trust where he stands. His father is a great guy its too bad he had a son like him.

 

dadling

May 18, 2009

Another "Dem-Lite" trying to tell us the same story...We're doomed if we run a Conservative....I think Not....if Obama & the dem's keep up their current school-yard style attempt at governing...we'll see them lose many seats in the 2010 midterms, to conservatives...and Obama will be a one term President....it's already happening...Americans arent stupid, as the liberals believe...
And this Huntsman, is McCain-Lite...no chance at any Presidential opportunities...so, he's taking another job to raise his pay and get out of the way....good....!!
The opportunity for real conservatives are growing daily...liberals continue to over reach and show us what really terrible people they are....
It's called "buyers remorse"......and it will overwhelm them in the near future...
Geithner, Daschel, Rangle, Frank, Pelosi, Reid, Dodd,...keep it coming..!!!

 

Repug

May 18, 2009

Bonus Quote of the Day
"If it's 2012 and our party is defined by Palin and Limbaugh and Cheney, then we're headed for a blowout."

-- Republican strategist John Weaver

Please keep steering to the fascist right, bubbleheads ...

 

WriteWinger

May 18, 2009

If McCain was so great, why didn't he win? Why didn't Colin Powell support him? He only came as close (really only a matter of a million votes in six states!!) BECAUSE OF Palin!! REMEMBER, he was a couple of points AHEAD before he said " I will suspend my campaign and go back to Washington, blah blah blah. HE was the LOUSY campaigner. I will vote for PALIN or NOBODY in 2012!

 

Paul Hoffman

May 18, 2009

Good riddance Mr. Huntsman and please take Mr. Romney and Mr. Hatch with you!

 

eric

May 18, 2009

"That leaves the wide-open GOP presidential field even more open than it had been before."

Too funny. Doesn't this article prove the exact opposite -- that the pool of GOPers that feasibly become the nominee is, at least ideologically, smaller than ever?

 

Paul Hoffman

May 18, 2009

Mr. Chaney went through eight years of demonization by the looney left and the mainstream media. Gee, I wonder why his numbers are down? I wish he were president. I would caution you looney lefties out there who are so smug right now. Predicting the 2012 presidential election is sort of like predicting the weather or the stock market. You can't predict long term simply because you can't foresee all the variables. I wonder who could beat Obama in 2012 when we are in a depression, suffering hyper inflation and we have suffered a few terrorist attacks. Hmm.

 

TXJim

May 18, 2009

I love to see Republicans eat their own...

 

bordway

May 18, 2009

I think the GOP should run an evangelical in 2012; it will be fun to watch them come in third.

 

Jimmy Stewart

May 18, 2009

Baloney! Limbaugh is the only thing that has kept the Republican Party in the game. As far as Palin I don't know how much Republicans care for her. I like her views she's just a little strange in her delivery of speaking for me.

 

Aragon

May 18, 2009

Re-brand the Republican party as an institution that can win elections all across the country? In other words, if you can't beat them, join them. Imagine,
a Republican party without Republicans. Who came up with this winning strategy?

 

Outside the Box

May 18, 2009

I don't consider my self Dem or Rep that limits my ability to make an educated decision. But you die hard rep can't handle the truth that Palin and Limbaugh and Cheney are all losers then keep losing and th dems will keep winning. Why have all the congressional seats been filled with dems? Bad decisions and running losers. Keep it in the box and lose.

 

Gus

May 18, 2009

Somebody linked Barry Goldwater with Sarah Palin. My goodness ... is this how far our party has fallen?

I truly believe we can find a candidate, a leader, who has a true conservative backbone that can still reach across to the middle ground of American voters. But as Republicans, it is time that we are intellectually honest ... we cannot hoist featherweights like Sarah Palin on the Americna public.

Isn't it time we stood up and said, "We are going to find the best and the brightest from the conservative movement, not a obviously totally unqualified Gidget"?

 

DaMav

May 18, 2009

It's hard to find anyone who has more actual hands on experience in how to lose elections than the moderate Republicans and their "strategists".

 

Dark Knight

May 18, 2009

Why the hell do these moderates feel the need to lecture us on what works? when obviously their prescription didn t work,when it did it turned out to be a disater,Bush elder liked China too,so I wonder if that is a sign of mediocrity,as far as I am concerned I will not support a moderate,I am a conservative,a hardliner conservative unashamed of my views or believes,I will not hide them I will not be silent,a moderate as a definition has no core values and the backbone of a noodle,good for nothing conservatives... That means Newt and Romney are pretty much out of favor too, Palin if she stands firm and fight I will be right there money and all I can do...But will she lead?

 

Dark Knight

May 18, 2009

I meant good for nothing moderates.... well they are good for something,they ought to be,I just don t know yet.

 

John

May 18, 2009

Palin,Rush etc conservative LOL they are the far right fringe that thinks our government should hang people before they are tried for any crime and have little or no knowledge of what is going on in today's world. They live in their own little world JMO

 

MMW

May 18, 2009

Thank God we don't listen to Huntsman. Nobody likes luke warm watered down beer, so why would we want another moderate. We tried McCain and look what it got us! You want to know what you always find in the middle of the road? Dead skunks and moderates.

 

Krusty

May 18, 2009

If Huntsman's right, his accepting an Obama administration demonstrates that we live in a one-party state (which is something I've kinda suspected for a long time) The "progressive" statists will control the political picture until the people rise up and put them in their place (stick 'em ALL on Hawaii, and give it to China- let them have the socialist milksops)

 

Leo

May 18, 2009

Is it possible to comprehend that we're not interested in republicans winning for the sake of republicans winning? 60 McCain's is not a win.

 

Nissl

May 18, 2009

Pignuts, you're clearly a Dem. Not only did you produce a series of grammatically correct sentences, you spelled "unfettered" correctly. Go move to Canada or something, egghead.

 

Jason

May 18, 2009

I think the Republican Party should continue following its current leadership, which is comprised of two closeted Monkey's with a bottle of Viagra. Surely that will continue to produce candidates who are morally superior and eager to kill or imprison anyone not toeing the line or praising His name in the proper manner, to your satisfaction.

 

Politic-Right

May 18, 2009

Who is John Weaver to tell the GOP how to handle their strategy? McCain's campaign was one of the worst strategically run campaigns. They never had a message. They based their daily message meeting, it seems, on the news the day before. They blew 2 leads with the Rick Warren interview and the nomination of Palin (both if which gave McCain great advances in the polls). They apologized for the Republican party over and over. John Weaver ran a poor campaign strategy. McCain's campaign stood for nothing and fell for nothing - he ran an apologetic campaign. Let him confuse the Chinese for 8 years...

 

ezier

May 18, 2009

I think that population demographics are changing and the GOP is being marginalized. What an historic election 2008 was in terms of Southern states going Democratic. I recently saw a report that even Jim Bunning says there will be 36 GOP senators after 2010.The GOP is playing to a disappearing audience.

 

mohammed

May 18, 2009

I am neutral. Neither repub. nor dem. It is dumb for "failed election" people to give advice how to get elected. Dems brag how Obama won, but they do not realize how the Dems turn on their own guys. The Dems turned on Carter Clinton and made them useless as leaders, wasted presidents. Dems are turning on Obama even as speak. Pelosi, Panetta, all the nominees who do not pay their taxes. CIA memos, government takeover of banks and corporations, and very soon he will raise taxes for EVERYBODY.

TAX AND SPEND!! The same thing Carter and Clinton did...so original.

 

Limbaugh/Palin 2012!

May 18, 2009

Reading these comments gives me hope... that we won't have to put up with another corrupt and incompetent Republican administration for a lonnnng time.

Can I lend you guys a shovel? Double down some more, and we'll see each other in a few decades. Don't forget to keep repeating your mantra in the bunker: "we can do no wrong, everything is the liberals' fault". Has to be true if Fox tells it to ya.

:)

 

larryPTL

May 18, 2009

All the RINOs say this. They're more interested in making the Republican party into some form of 'Democrat lite' than letting it really be an alternative to the seeds of destruction that are sweeping America.

 

mohammed

May 18, 2009

Since Bush was SO bad and we needed change, how come Obama kept and continues many of the Bush policies? Obama should have given the TARP money to the people. $50,000 to $100,000 to every homeowner in distress. they would have saved their houses, the banks would have been saved. Companies could have borrowed money and jobs saved.

Obama did what Bush did. gave the rich 10 times more of our money. Put the nation on unemployment and welfare because the big companies do not want to pay higher taxes that Obama promised.

People: you have to THINK! Dems are the other side of the same show. It's like the WWF, the "good guys" and the "bad guys" all travel, eat, and work together. It's ALL a show.

 

James Cooke

May 18, 2009

I'm tired of non-Republicans advising us Republicans on what to do.

McCain was a "liberal" Republican out of step with the party base and he lost big time. Huntsman wouldn't do any better in 2012.

We need a real Republican, a conservative who really believes in limited government, free markets and freedom as the standard bearer next time around.

You win national elections by finding a candidate who appeals to the base and then can tack to the middle to get independent support. That's what Reagan did. That's what Obama did; he appealed to the liberal Democrats.

Next time around we need a Republican who excites conservatives first, then can get moderate votes.

With the right candidate, it will be easy. All he or she needs to ask Obama: Are Americans better off now in 2011 than 2008? The answer will be obvious.


 

HJFudge

May 18, 2009

Victim Mentality will do no one any good. You lost because the Democrats were able to better present their side of the story than you were.

You can blame that on the Media, Acorn, whatever...

but you know the rules of the game when you go in. Instead of whining, use the resources available to campaign in a winning fashion. If you feel Palin can perform well on a National Stage, having lost her first round, then put her up for nomination and We Will See.

Time is the teller of all truths. No one can say who will win for certain, as so many different things can happen. If the economy tanks and things do not go well, Obama could lose. If the economy recovers and things seem to be going well, Obama will probably win.

 

Norine H

May 18, 2009

We certainly dodged a bullet with this guy getting an Ambassadorship. IS THERE ANYONE IN DC who will stand up for what's RIGHT and not what's politically expedient for their own purposes??? If you can prove it, we will support you!! I'm beginning to think Glenn Beck IS the only alternative.

 

Politic-Right

May 18, 2009

Personally, I wish John Weaver all the best, but where will all those be, who've jumped ship, when the GOP bounces back? The GOP needs people who will stand up for its values, not people who run while the party's popularity at a low ebb. Reagan has the same message more than 20 years. Go back and look at his speeches for Goldwater. Reagan's core values were the same in the 60s, 70s and 80s. The core value of the party is freedom, not socialism.

 

RBCheney

May 18, 2009

Cheney-Satan: 2012!!

 

waltdonley@aol.com

May 19, 2009

We just had a centrist Republican president who was a complete failure. We just had a centrist Republican Presidential candidate who was a failure. And this genius thinks we need another centrist in 2012? What a goon.

 

DEO

May 19, 2009

Sarah Palin-Tonya Harding 2012!

 

StewartIII

May 19, 2009

Huntsman advisor: We’re doomed in 2012 if Palin’s a major player in the GOP
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/18/huntsman-advisor-were-doomed-in-2012-if-palins-a-major-player-in-the-gop/

 

ssinsc

May 19, 2009

Conservatism=hypocrisy, even if it wasnt it is now. People like Palin, Limbaugh and Cheney scream out less government, less taxes. They do not mind more government when the topic is abortion. For everything
less government, but when it comes to my on body and life the government should control my decisions. If a person like Palin is president of this country. I will start believing more and more that Americans are getting dumber and dumber.

 

NO RINOS

May 19, 2009

Just another RINO. Keep listening to people like these and you will no have a Republican Party, just socialism....

 

pappy

May 19, 2009

So, I keep hearing what a great candidate this guy Huntsman would be, but Obama did a minor head fake and removed him from the contest. Doesn't seem too bright to me!

 

Bobby James McGruder

May 19, 2009

The Republican party is doomed anyway. Why? Read these comments and you'll see why. The far right is too powerful within the Republican party but not powerful enough nationwide. They like Limbaugh and Palin while the rest of the country thinks they are flaming idiots. Democrats will vote Democratic. Independents will vote Democratic. Some moderate Republicans will vote Democratic to keep idiots like Palin from taking office, just like this past election. Some will vote Republican to stay loyal to the party. The far right will vote Republican. Doesn't look to good for the GOP, does it?

 

Frank

May 19, 2009

Yep. Imitating Democrats has proven wildly successful for the GOP... this guy's a moron. As so many have said here the GOP is in the position for abandoning conservatism. Advice like this guy's will guarantee that the GOP will the minority party. The Republicans need to go back to what worked and have some guts to stand on principle. Wasn't that long ago that people thought the democrats would be losing for a long time. Things change. Obama and the rogues gallery of democrats in Congress continue to over reach with their socialist/lib agenda. It's going to bit them.

 

Drew

May 19, 2009

Keep it up "conservatives"! Keep throwing out anyone that disagrees with your core principles, it's a proven winner!
http://www.gallup.com/poll/118528/GOP-Losses-Span-Nearly-Demographic-Groups.aspx
Pretty soon you gallant Americans will be reduced to a permanent minority and maybe a responsible opposition that learns from the last 8 years of mistakes will take root.
But for now keep blaming the loony left and the media. Yeah that must be the reason you guys keep losing.

 

Constitutionalist Jack

May 19, 2009

That's right if Republicans run another NEOCON RINO candidate like John McCain, Lindsey Graham, George Bush, Mitt Romney, or a dullard like Sarah Palin with her populist rhetoric they'll lose bad.

However, if the Republicans run a libertarian-Constitutionalist candidate like Ron Paul they'll blow the Democrats out of the water. Those who follow the Austrian School of Economics are the only ones that can pull us out of this Keyesian disaster

 

Un-severed

May 19, 2009

Dear Severed, shut ur pie hole.

 

jane

May 19, 2009

I like the idea of all free MEN to form their own country. How about Alaska? Take Cheney and Limbaugh with you, he can broadcast to the Russians. The american character is marred greatly by this nasty, exclusive far right and I would be very happy to see it move to another region of the world. Pray for Rapture!

 

kudubwrong

May 19, 2009

We will not be able to elect a conservative in office until we make a significant change in the media and schools!! It is time the "OTHER" half of America make absolute demands that these institutions change, and if they don't... don't tune into any of the statuions, and don't send your kids to public school or colleges until the playing ground is fair. They need to have equal journalist's/reporter's, and professor's...(Rights=lefties) in order to change this mess around. While the GOP slept, and let this happen ... the lefties took full advantage of the nap!!

 

Patrick Henry

May 19, 2009

"jane," we free men will gladly take Texas and Alaska. We will gladly let you keep your "character." We in the "nasty, exclusive far right" will enjoy charging you bazillions for oil...idiot.

 

Drew

May 19, 2009

kudubwrong
Thats right, we need affirmative action for conservative ideas in the media and our schools. There must be some hidden and all powerful cabal keeping conservative thought out of these two gigantic institutions. That can be the only explanation. It can't be that your ideas are out of touch with the American mainstream.

 

kudubwrong

May 19, 2009

No... get a clue-Drew.... not affirmitive action for conservative's, NEVER... that is a leftie-life-long crutch... but this is a democracy...NO?
We need fairness, open-minded, free-thinking, institutions, or I think we become very much like what we fought so hard against in WW11. Drew, I believe you might be the one out of touch with the mainstream, there are those with different thought processes, other then what keith olbermen and chris splather indroctinate you with night after night.

 

Sandy

May 19, 2009

Ron Paul = buffoon

 

avery

May 19, 2009


I don't care who republicans run in 2010 and 2012 because I know right now that this former democrat WILL be voting for whoever is republican to escape the nightmare of the present administration and congress.

 

Jimmy

May 19, 2009

My pick for 2012 is Mitt Romney.

 

pgustaf@gmail.com

May 19, 2009

That's right Republicans, don't listen to the moderates. I'd like to see you wander the desert for a few more years.

 

Ry

May 20, 2009

Yeah cleanse your party of "RINO"'s and moderates... we don't need the popular vote moderates will bring us. We can just cheat and steal our way to victory like TRUE Republicans!

 

Herne

May 20, 2009

Doesn't matter what the label is - we need someone who will abide by the Constitution. After all, America is a Constitutional Republic, NOT a democracy.

I'm all for a fiscal conservative with Morals, yes, morals! Once the atheist elite pushed God out of everything, we've been going downhill since. And I'm talking in the early 1800s or before. This is nothing new, but the speed at which B Hussein O is trying to destroy this nation is simply amazing and MUST be stopped. British and Canadians are warning us to NOT go down the road to national health care because IT DOES NOT WORK.

Lefty liberal scum, why won't you just move to the wonderful paradises of Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, Russia, etc.???

Really - why don't you just go there? If it's what you want, just GO. There.

 

Bert

May 21, 2009

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you Repugs are delusional... your tinfoil hats look very stylish BTW :p ;D

 

Fliesatdusk

May 24, 2009

The only Brit who says national health care does not work is a mouth for hire who lies about his CV. Ordinary Brits would never exchange the immoral lottery of US so-called health care for their own service any day. Not only does it work very well thank you, for everyone not just fat cats, but it's a good deal cheaper

 

Jan 11, 2010

projeksiyon

 

david

Jan 13, 2010

This is nothing new, but the speed at which B Hussein O is trying to destroy this nation is simply amazing and MUST be stopped. British and Canadians are warning us to NOT go down the road to national health care because IT DOES NOT WORK.
Online health science degree | Online Natural science degree | Administration Degree

 

pollok1

Jan 13, 2010

I'm the same way, I do my best to remain neutral. It's hard, if you communicate with the person the other person dislikes, then you fall out of favor with them! I simple can't dislike a person, just because someone else does, I just can't.
Psychology degree | Online Nursing degree

 


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