Politics

[Print]  [Email]        

Is the Senate health plan anti-gun?

By: Susan Ferrechio
Chief Congressional Correspondent
November 24, 2009

The Senate's 2,074-page health care bill doesn't mention guns, but some gun owners are worried certain provisions could eventually be used to discourage or even restrict gun ownership as part of a government effort to influence behavior as it broadens its control over the health care system.

The day before the Senate passed the $848 billion health bill on a party-line vote, the Virginia-based Gun Owners of America sent out a mass alert to its 300,000 members, warning them that the legislation "will most likely dump your gun-related health data into a government database. ... This includes any firearms-related information your doctor has gleaned or any determination of post traumatic stress disorder or something similar, that can preclude you from owning firearms."

The group warned that new "wellness and prevention" programs that would permit employers to offer employees lower premiums for healthier lifestyles do not include anything that would prohibit "rabidly anti-gun Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius from decreeing that 'no guns' is somehow healthier."

With no specific legislative language relating to guns, it is unlikely the issue will become a major roadblock for the bill.

But critics and gun owners have highlighted a larger concern about government interference if the legislation becomes law. The bill would expand coverage to 31 million people through subsidies and Medicaid expansion.

"There is a broader issue here," said Dave Kopel, research director of the Independence Institute of Colorado, a libertarian think tank. "The more you socialize costs, the more you empower the argument that the government has the authority to control private behavior."

Kopel pointed to the Japanese health care system, where employee waistlines are measured and those who are overweight are put into special weight loss programs, as an example of where the U.S. health care system could be headed.

And gun control could become part of it, Kopel said.

"If [the Department of Health and Human Services] can write regulations for lower premiums for healthy habits in general," Kopel said. "Then I don't see anything in the bill that stops HHS from saying people get higher premiums for unhealthy habits such as owning a gun or a handgun."

Gun Owners of America spokesman Erich Pratt said the government has already blocked gun ownership through its access to the mental health records of military veterans. If a vet is diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder, his or her name is sent to a special database used to prohibit gun purchases. So far, 150,000 veterans have been denied firearms using the list, Pratt said. The Senate bill could widen government oversight of who can own a gun, he warned.

"With these mandates, it is really going to be impossible to keep our medical information out of this database," Pratt said.

Supporters of the bill said gun rights groups are trying to stir up unnecessary fear.

"It is very clear they are misreading the bill," said Igor Volsky, a health care researcher for the Center for American Progress, a liberal think tank. "All this bill does is define what a wellness program is. It is a broad definition, but it is not broad enough to net gun ownership."

sferrechio@washingtonexaminer.com



beltway confidential

In response to the attention we gave him for his old column on how Washington has "anemic winters" because of global warming, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. tells NRO's Robert...

By a vote of 52 to 33, the Obama administration nominee to the National Labor Relations Board, Craig Becker, just failed to get the 60 votes needed for his nomination to proceed...

The highest form of flattery! Robert, declare yourself! (ap photo) Beltway Confidential knows a crush when she sees one. How else to explain the relentless mocking and...

You're beautiful, Chuck Todd. I mean that. (ap photo) On a day when many White House reporters (ahem) stayed away from the White House for snow or early-deadline...






To view this site, you need to have Flash Player 8.0 or later installed. Click here to get the latest Flash player.


Most Popular Headlines





 


 



 

Reader Comments

All comments on this page are subject to our Terms of Use and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Examiner or its staff. Comment box is limited to 250 words.

Gowain

Nov 24, 2009

Igor is just blowing smoke. Historically, liberals have tried to make a connection between firearms and health. Watch for them to attempt something like it in the future whether this bill passes or not. And it's not about health anyway, it's about government control of the individual with liberal bureaucrats and liberal public officials calling the shots.

 

Larry

Nov 25, 2009

Right on Gowain. It's control. Control your medicine and 1/6th of the economy, guess what, guns are next and total freedom down socialist lane. Spread the wealth. Disarm us and we are volunerable to all who desire to hurt us. Guess who gets disarmed, you guessed it.

 

neted56

Nov 26, 2009

Dumping all of this on Medicaid along with new entitlements is exactly what Cloward and Piven have called for. Why is all of the press along with the conservative lawmakers afraid of pointing this out. The fact that conservatives are refusing to use this against the Dems movement is really the scary part.

Google "Cloward Piven"

 

Ernie

Dec 21, 2009

Hidden gun grab in health bill

Since our elected officials, senators, and congressmen do not have time to read the health bill in its entirety its a perfect place for a hidden gun grab. As Glen Beck says in his book "Arguing With Idiots," the "Violence Policy Center believes that guns are a public health issue, and should be subject to government health, and safety regulations." How hard do you think it would be for them to lobby one of our radical left wing democratic legislators to add such language hidden somewhere in the final version of this health bill that Obama, and his cohorts are trying to cram down our throats in such a short space of time? Just think what would happen if owning a gun made you ineligible for health care!!! Since this bill doesn't take effect till sometime in 2014, why such a rush? Are they giving hard working American taxpayers the bums rush so we can support all the bums, and they can take away our guns at the same time?




 

Old Gyrene

Dec 22, 2009

Whether or not there was "gun grabbing" language proposed for the bill I do not know. However an article in the NY Daily News here http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dc/2009/12/health-care-bills-gun-exclusio.html states that Harry Reid added a provision that excludes collection or use of gun related information whether or not it is for the purpose of determining health benefits or insureability. Harry and I agree on this one.

 

Jan 11, 2010

projeksiyon

 


Post a comment


Email:
(This will not be displayed or shared. Privacy Policy)

Your Name:

Comment:




Local

Another snowball fight planned for Dupont Circle

The Official Dupont Circle Snowball Fight facebook fanpage has over 6,000 fans now, and it looks as if snowed in DC'ers will return for another battle. Full story

Politics

GOP winning war over Miranda rights for terrorists

Even as the administration defends its decision to grant accused Detroit bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab the right to remain silent, the president himself is hinting that things might be done differently in the future. Full story

Local

D.C. region braces for up to 20 more inches of snow

The National Weather Service has the entire D.C. metro area, from Prince William County north, under a winter storm warning for 10 to 20 inches of snow. Forecasters have had their eyes on this storm for days, but the projected snow totals were bumped up late Monday. Full story