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Unlike Obama, Americans reject European model

By: Michael Barone
Senior Political Analyst
October 18, 2009

(AP)

An interesting paradox. Last year America elected a president who, in attitudes and policies, is closer to the elites of Western Europe than any of his predecessors. Yet in the nine months that he has been in office ordinary Americans have been moving away from those attitudes and policies and have increasingly embraced positions that over the years have made Americans distinctive from those in other advanced Western democracies.

Barack Obama's European tendencies aren't in doubt. His policies on government spending, taxation, health care and carbon emissions would all tend to bring America in line with European norms, to a far greater degree than any other president of the last 40 years and probably any president ever.

And what of America's special place in the world? "I believe in American exceptionalism," Obama said on one of his trips to Europe, "just as I suspect that Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism." In other words, not at all. One cannot imagine Presidents Roosevelt, Truman or Kennedy, Eisenhower or Reagan, uttering such sentiments.

Obama told European Union lawmakers in Strasbourg that he hailed "your dynamic union," but most Americans seem to have some vestigial knowledge that over the last 60 years America has been more dynamic -- economically, culturally, politically, militarily -- than our friends across the Atlantic. And when presented with public policies that would make us more like Europe, Americans have tended to recoil.

Examples abound. Despite the recession, by about 50 to 40 percent Americans continue to prefer smaller government with fewer services to larger government with more services (June ABC/Washington Post and CBS/New York Times polls). Some 80 percent want the government to sell its interest in General Motors (July Rasmussen poll).

A 58 to 35 percent majority say keep the budget deficit down even if it takes longer for the economy to recover (NBC/WSJ June). A 53 to 33 percent majority oppose more government regulation of the finance sector (Rasmussen October).

As Europeanizing policies receive more attention they become less popular. June's 50 to 45 percent approval of Democratic health care proposals morphs to a similar margin of disapproval in October (Rasmussen). And satisfaction with one's own health care arrangements rises from 29 percent in 2008 and 35 percent in May 2009 to 48 percent in August (Rasmussen again).

European elites support gun control and curbs on carbon emissions almost unanimously. Americans don't -- and are moving in the other direction. Support for a handgun ban has fallen from 60 percent in 1960 and 43 percent in the early 1990s to 29 percent in May 2009 (Gallup). By a 48 to 34 percent margin Americans believe global warming is caused by long-term planetary trends rather than human activity (Rasmussen April); in 2008 it was almost exactly the other way around.

European leaders agree with Obama's decision to close the Guantanamo detention facility. Americans disagree by a 52 to 39 percent margin (NBC/WSJ June). Europeans accept a large role for unions. American approval for labor unions fell from 59 percent in 2008 to 48 percent in spring 2009, by far the lowest figure since Gallup began asking the question in 1936.

Gallup reports that 39 percent of Americans this year say their views have grown more conservative, while only 18 percent say they have become more liberal. No wonder Democratic pollster Peter Hart, who with Republican Bill McInturff conducts the NBC/Wall Street Journal poll, said in June that Obama and the Democrats "are going to have to navigate in pretty choppy waters."

The late political scientist Seymour Martin Lipset, who wrote a book on American exceptionalism, long noted that Americans are more individualistic and less collectivist than Western Europeans (or Canadians). The election of a president who in many ways seeks to push America in a European direction seems to have increased rather than decreased those differences.

Why? My explanation is that until November 2008 Americans did not have any reason to contemplate what a more European approach would mean in real-life terms. Now, with Obama in the White House and a heavily Democratic Congress, they do. And they mostly don't like it.

Hence the embarrassment of liberal commentators and, it seems, the president himself when five Norwegian lawmakers tendered him the Nobel Peace Prize. European elites are delighted with Obama's European approach. Most American voters aren't.

Michael Barone, The Examiner's senior political analyst, can be contacted at mbarone@washingtonexaminer.com. His columns appear Wednesday and Sunday, and his stories and blog posts appear on ExaminerPolitics.com.



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flacracker

Oct 18, 2009

Mr. Barone is dead on target. I don't know about any one else but I don't give a tinker's hoot what Europeans think. Furthermore, I have no desire to live in a world of socialism controlled by a central government.

 

VegasGuy

Oct 18, 2009

Can you please, please stop with the constant pictures of Obama. They've become really tiresome.

 

VegasGuy

Oct 18, 2009

Sorry if there's any confusion. My previous comment was addressed to staff.

 

bobc

Oct 18, 2009

Here is another thing to stop!


MARGARET THATCHER'S ADVISER ON GLOBAL WARMING, LORD MONKTON SAYS A TREATY IS TO BE SIGNED AT COPENHAGEN IN DECEMBER.

IT IS A TRANSFER OF WEALTH FROM THE WESTERN WORLD TO 3RD WORLD COUNTRIES.

IT WILL RESULT ON ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT.

HE SAYS, OBAMA WILL SIGN THIS! BUT...



It is my understanding that in Article 2, Section 2, paragraph 2 of the US Constitution, the president can sign treaties "provided two thirds of the Senators present concur".

1) Please be present for this vote!
2) DO NOT APPROVE IT!

Doing so will effectively sign away our national sovereignty to foreign government!

PLEASE, STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING!!!

 

Nick Beddoes

Oct 18, 2009

Does Michael Barone really think that the US has nothing to learn from Europeans? Is he unaware that western Europe has better and more universal health care, less crime, fewer people in prison, longer life spans, lower infant mortality, fewer unintended pregnancies, less distance between rich and poor than the US? Is he unaware that 3/4 of Americans favor a robust public option for health insurance reform? He writes that most Americans would like the government to sell its interest in GM? But who would buy it? China? Does Barone long for a return to the Rush/Cheney/Rove eight year reign of error, waste and incompetence?

 

Shanghaied

Oct 18, 2009

Most of our ancestors fled Europe. Why in the world should we as Americans ever want to go back?

 

Nick Beddoes

Oct 18, 2009

"Shanghaied" seems to have forgottten that the reasons our ancestors fled Europe are past history. After World War II western Europe surged ahead and have surpassed us in some areas. No one wants to go back to the conditions that caused out-migration, but we should recognize that our country has fallen into some of the bad habits that European countries had that drove our ancestors out.

 

greyduc

Oct 18, 2009

Yes, Nick, we have quite a lot to learn from the lefties in Europe and that is every thing NOT to do. I am so ----ing tired of this crap from you people that I ( and millions like me) get more involved in your defeat everyday. Did you mean 75% of your Marxist friends want this? That's what I thought.

 

emigration

Oct 18, 2009

Nick, I believe the word for "out migration" is emmigration.

 

Mike in CA

Oct 18, 2009

Europe's experiment with progressivism has been a disaster of almost unimaginable proportions. I know this because I have many friends who have immigrated from such countries as Denmark and Italy. High taxes have made it impossible for anyone not born wealthy to get ahead. The taxes support an overly generous social safety net that encourages people to take advantage of the state's generosity. Most Europeans don't have enough children to sustain their own societies. To compensate, they accept waves of immigration from the Muslim world, and these immigrants are now seaking to impose their values on the rest of society. Within our lifetimes we will see these countries fall to be replaced with Islamic states.

 

texexpatriate

Oct 18, 2009

Let me just throw this out: It is not, as Barone says, "ordinary Americans" who reject Obama's transocialist plans for the U.S. It is we genuine Americans who reject them. Washington, D.C., the entire northeast of America, and California, Oregon, and Washington are filled with counterfeit Americans.

 

Peter Shalen

Oct 18, 2009

Mr. Beddoes, you are mistaken in saying that "the reasons our ancestors fled Europe are past history." My ancestors fled Europe because as Jews they were being persecuted. French Jews are leaving France in droves right now for the same reason. It happens that the persecutors are Muslims now, not Christians; but the social structures that make persecution possible, and the passivity and indifference of the majority of the population and the authorities, hasn't changed a bit.

 

RobbyS

Oct 18, 2009

Nick Beddoes thinks that Europe surged past us after WWII? I lived from 1970 to 2000 in Europe and I can assure him there there was no such surge. Not until after 1970 did Germany, for instance, reach the stage that our economy reached in the 50s. He has a tourists' view of the history of Europe.

 

jgac

Oct 18, 2009

Though the ancestors fled Europe, they also brought Europe as in the case of slavery. But mostly, we take a good idea and make it our own,make it better. Be it Democracy or Socialism, both have good and bad ideas. But what works best is what helps the people live with dignity. No Vet or family should be denied better lives so some company CEO can live high on the hog.

 

Newman

Oct 18, 2009

What this reflects is a titanic battle between the elites and everyone else, over whose opinions will carry weight in the future. In Europe the national elites won this battle a long time ago, and they get their way over the death penalty, political correctness, their own pensions and just about everything else.

 

markit8dude

Oct 19, 2009

'error waste and incompetence..'

Nick - you do realize in 4 months Teleprompter Guy bumped up the budget 1.4 trillion dollars, right?

Another useful idiot..

 

WE THE PEOPLE arre against his healthcare

Oct 19, 2009

no wheree in the conatituion dose it saay you have the right to healthcare!
pres Obama isd in own dream world.

 

I love Glen Beck

Oct 20, 2009

Nick Beddoes: You are a TOOL!

 

zonamike

Oct 30, 2009

Shanghaied--The Europe our ancestors fled was a Europe of 100-200 years ago; a Europe of religious persecution, famine, and tyrannical monarchy. Certainly no contemporary American would prefer that to the America of 2009. But if you have ever visited or spent time in modern-day Europe, you might be surprised at how pleasantly and well their society functions. Just ask any serviceman or woman returning from a tour in Germany. That certainly doesn't mean we need to blindly mimic or adopt everything Europe does, but let's not act like it has zero to teach us in the arenas of modernized health care, public transportation, education, energy efficiency, etc.

 

maarthaardy

Oct 31, 2009

Michael Moore in the book "Stupid White Men" made mention of the fact that G.W. Bush did not walk the last stretch of his inauguration in order to show that he identified with the common man. Will Obama get out of the limo and walk the last block?
www.goarticles.com/cgi-bin/showa.cgi?C=2015750

 

blancd15

Nov 4, 2009

Should they not seek to serve and represent all Americans to include those that they disagree with?
http://ezinearticles.com/?Acai-Force-Max-Review---How-Effective-is-This-Health-Supplement-For-Our-Body?&id=2852216

 

jt

Nov 4, 2009

Americans have had 10 yrs of outsourcing, mergers- companies close watched 401 K lose50%of value.
Record profits for oil co.s what did public get of this?
Health care rates higher yrly...
How about college tuition?! extortionate - loans?
credit card co's raise interest rate to 25%!!!....
How many more American economic probs ?
It's time for real solutions-
Not just usual political rhetoric- lowering taxes!!!

 

jacicaalban

Dec 10, 2009

If you could choose between what we called the Anglo-American political economy and the continental European model of political economy, which would you prefer? Why?
http://www.goarticles.com/cgi-bin/showa.cgi?C=2300082

 

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