Washington Examiner political columnist Tim Carney Wednesday evening indicated on MSNBC that he disagreed with Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., about bacon.

“First let me say I do not accept Rand Paul’s premise that eating bacon makes you gain weight,” Carney began, during a segment with MSNBC host Chris Hayes. “I think it’s the carbs.”

In the rest of the segment, Carney explains why the debate between Paul and Gov. Chris Christie, R-N.J., is good for the Republican Party.