Kellyanne Conway is the special counselor to the president, and the first woman to lead a successful presidential campaign. So it’s astounding to see what garners Conway the most media attention: her husband’s latest statements.

Prior to the Trump presidency, George Conway was an obscure lawyer and his wife a pollster known just within her industry. With Kellyanne Conway successfully guiding President Trump’s campaign, she catapulted to notoriety, and her husband followed her coattails as he formed his own brand as an outspoken Trump critic. Recently, Conway said to the Washington Examiner’s Caitlin Yilek what is painfully obvious: “He gets his power through me if you haven’t noticed. Not the other way around.”