America needs a more aggressive approach to cybersecurity, a former spy chief opined on Tuesday, includes sharing more of the information that he calls “hideously overclassified.”

“American industry hides the ball from one another and from the public for fiduciary reasons, and the American government hides the same ball because of the hideous overclassification of cyber-related information,” retired Gen. Michael Hayden said in remarks at the American Enterprise Institute. Hayden served as head of both the National Security Agency and the Central Intelligence Agency.