Q: Does Bernie Sanders represent that same left-left that McGovern did? A: No, it goes beyond that. I’ve been saying for six years on the stump and inside the White House that the concentration of wealth is a gigantic problem, politically and economically. Q: But he’s a socialist. Do you think a socialist can win a general election? A: Look, what Bernie is talking about now is mainstream. The mainstream is saying wait a minute, the concentration of wealth is a disaster, and it’s unfair. Full-blown capitalists are saying that’s true, that’s not right. I haven’t heard him lay out in detail what the socialist part of his agenda is. Q: Health care, right? Single-payer? A: That was the president’s position, initially. That was Hillary’s position. I assume that was to get to the left of Hillary. But that was Hillary’s position on health care.