Former White House press secretary Jen Psaki said Thursday that Vice President Kamala Harris is the “clear alternative” to replace President Joe Biden as the Democratic nominee for president.

“There’s lot of talking behind closed doors in right now in Washington and around the public,” Psaki said during an appearance on NBC’s Late Night with Seth Meyers. “For July Fourth, I would try to change the subject with my family and friends to other things, and it was, like, ‘Yeah, yeah, yeah, life is fine. What’s going to happen with this election?'”