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Published December 6, 2008 5:00am ET



All-time NFL teams: Baltimore vs. Washington

The Redskins have two NFL titles and three Super Bowl wins, and Baltimore’s teams have won three NFL titles and two Super Bowl championships. But which city has been home to the better players? We asked Ron Snyder of The Baltimore Examiner and Kevin Dunleavy of The Washington Examiner to go one-on-one in the greatest debate of all: Which city would win a game of fantasy football? There was just one rule: A player had to spend three seasons with the Redskins, Colts or Ravens to be eligible. Sorry, Deion Sanders.

Ron Snyder »
It’s not close, Baltimore’s better
  Kevin Dunleavy »
D.C. has HOFers ridin’ the pine

If Baltimore Colts defensive linemen Art Donovan and Gino Marchetti ever had to face the Redskins offensive line — known as “The Hogs” — the Hall of Famers would have turned them into their personal ham sandwich.

If a team of the greatest Baltimore players took on an squad of the greatest Redskins, quarterback Johnny Unitas would prove why he’s “the Golden Arm.” He’d connect routinely with Raymond Berry — and there would be nothing cornerback Darrell Green could do to stop it. It’s not like the Redskins would have a pass rush: Unitas would have plenty of time to throw with arguably the two greatest offensive tackles ever — Jim Parker and Jonathan Ogden — shielding him.

If Unitas would have had Ogden protecting him, he might have thrown a touchdown pass in even more than just his record 47 straight games. And if he ever did feel pressure, Unitas would have plenty of safety nets, including Lenny Moore, Todd Heap and John Mackey to drop the ball off for a short pass, which could quickly turn into a big gain.

Cornerback Rod Woodson and safety Ed Reed would round up “The Posse” and eliminate any semblance of a Washington passing game. Woodson hit harder than any cornerback of his era and Reed has the two longest interception returns for a touchdown in NFL history.

And how would the Redskins run the ball? With Donovan, Marchetti and “Big Daddy” Lipscomb up front and all-time great Ray Lewis behind them, it would be like trying to run through a brick wall. The Ravens haven’t allowed a 100-yard rusher in 31 straight games, largely because of Lewis’ dogged pursuit.

Then there’s coaching.

Yes, Joe Gibbs led the Redskins to three Super Bowl wins with three different quarterbacks, but he sure didn’t look like a Hall of Famer in his second stint in Washington, did he?

But he’s no Weeb Ewbank, whose superiority over Gibbs is worth at least a touchdown. Ewbank guided the Colts past the Giants in the 1958 NFL championship game. Eleven years later, Ewbank led the New York Jets to an improbable win over the Colts in Super Bowl III in one of the most significant games in NFL history.

So, bring on the burgundy and gold. Baltimore is just better.

Prediction » Baltimore 30, Washington 17

 

Hey, Charm City, we love you. We love your crab cakes. We love “The Wire.” And, even though we finally got a baseball team, we still love your O’s. You’re cute. You’re cuddly. You’re fun.

And it’s fine if you hate us. We understand. We’re big. We’re important. And we know it.

Just a quick review. Here’s what Baltimore does best — duckpins, lava lamps, and lawn ornaments. Here’s what Washington does best — international relations, federal government and politics.

Oh, and there’s one other thing we do better. Football.

Sure, the teams each have five world championships, but the Redskins have more Hall of Famers, 17-10. A matchup of your best against our best wouldn’t be close.

Yeah, we know you got Johnny Unitas. But we have two Hall of Fame quarterbacks — Sammy Baugh and Sonny Jurgensen. In his day, Sonny was called “the best pure passer in football,” and that era included Ol’ Johnny U.

And imagine this, Sammy Baugh as a backup QB? Who do you have on the bench, Baltimore? Elvis Grbac?

Look at our receivers, Art Monk and Charley Taylor. These guys are so good, we can’t get another Hall of Famer, Bobby Mitchell, on the field. Both 6-foot-3. Both 210 pounds. Both chiseled from stone.

You guys are so lacking at receiver, that you’re splitting a tight end out wide. No offense to the immortal Todd Heap, but that is a joke.

We also have two Hall of Fame running backs, a line full of “Hogs.” How are you gonna stop this irrepressible offensive machine?

On defense, we have storm troopers coming off the edges — Dexter Manley, Wilber Marshall, and Charles Mann — and run stuffers up the middle, Sam Huff and Dave Butz. In the secondary, we have three physical marvels — Ken Houston, Sean Taylor and Darrell Green — and a pit bull, Pat Fisher.

And if it happens to be close, and we need a clutch field goal, who better than Mark Moseley, the only MVP kicker in NFL history? But, hey Baltimore, it’s not going to come down to that.


Prediction » Washington 27, Baltimore 14
Baltimore roster   Washington roster
Pos.    Player    Seasons    Pro Bowl    MVP/POY
HOF year » Comment
Offense
QB    Johnny Unitas    1956-72    10    3
1979 » 40,239 passing yards, 290 TDs
RB    Lenny Moore    1956-67    7    1
1975 » 12,451 all-purpose yards, 113 TDs
TE    John Mackey    1963-71    5    0
1992 » 331 catches, 5,236 yards, 38 TDs
WR    Raymond Berry    1955-67    6    0
1973 » 631 catches, 9,275 yards
WR    Todd Heap    2001-present    2    0
N/A » 366 catches, 4,173 yards
FB    Alan Ameche    1955-60    4    0
N/A » 4,778 all-purpose yards, 44 TDs
OT    Jonathan Ogden    1996-2007    11    0
N/A » Ravens leader in games played (177)
OT    Bob Vogel    1963-72    5    0
N/A » Anchored a line for two Super Bowl teams (III & V)
G    Alex Sandusky    1954-66    0    0
N/A » 166 career games with Colts
G    Jim Parker    1957-67    8    0
1973 » 4 Pro Bowls each at LT & LG
C    Mike Flynn    1997-2007    0    0
N/A » Helped block for Jamal Lewis’ 2,000-yard season in ‘03
Defense

DL    Art Donovan    1950, 1953-61    5    0
1968 » All-NFL selection five times
DL    Gino Marchetti    1953-64, 1966    11    0
1972 » Played in then-record 11 straight Pro Bowls
DL    Gene Lipscomb    1956-60    3    0
N/A » Pro Bowl MVP in 1959 and 1962
DL    Bubba Smith    1967-71    2    0
N/A » Dominant defender for Super Bowl V champs
LB    Ted Hendricks    1969-73    8    0
1990 » 26 INTs, played in 215 straight games
LB    Ray Lewis    1996-present    9    2
N/A » 2,142 tackles, 28 INTs
LB    Mike Curtis    1965-75    4    0
N/A » AFC Defensive Player of the Year in 1970
CB    Chris McAlister    1999-present    3    0
N/A » 26 INTs, 6 TDs
CB    Rod Woodson    1998-2001    11    1
N/A » 1,163 tackles, 71 INTs
S    Ed Reed    2002-present    4    1
N/A » 37 INTs, 10 TDs
S    Bruce Laird    1972-81    1     0
N/A » 19 INTs, 18 FR
K    Matt Stover    1996-present    1     0
N/A » 83.5 FG%, 380 straight PATs
P    Sam Koch    2006-present    0    0
N/A » 43.9 career gross avg. yards/punt
KR    Jermaine Lewis    1996-2001    2    0
N/A » 7,893 return yards and 6 TDs

Coach » Weeb Ewbank
Years in Baltimore » 1954-1962
Career record » 130-129-7 overall (59-52-1 with Colts)
Career highlights » Won ’58 and ’59 NFL championship with Colts; won ’68 AFL championship and Super Bowl III with New York Jets; inducted into Hall of Fame in 1978.

 

Pos.    Player    Seasons    Pro Bowl    MVP/POY
HOF year » Comment
Offense
QB    Sonny Jurgensen    1964-74     5    0
1983 » Best pure passer of era had 32,224 yards, 255 TDs
RB    John Riggins    1976-85    1    0
1992 » 11,352 yards, 104 touchdowns
RB     Cliff Battles    1932-37    6 (All-NFL)    N/A
1968 » Ran for 3,511 yards, 23 TDs
WR     Charley Taylor    1964-77    8    0
1984 » All-time receptions (649) and yards (9,110) leader at retirement
WR    Art Monk    1980-93    3    0
2008 » NFL all-time receptions leader (940) at retirement
TE     Jerry Smith    1965-77    2    0
N/A »     NFL all-time TE TD receptions leader (60) at retirement
OT    Joe Jacoby    1981-93    4    0
N/A » Most powerful of legendary “Hogs”
OT    Jim Lachey    1988-93    3    0
N/A » Best blocker on ’91 Super Bowl champs
OG    Russ Grimm     1981-91    4    0
N/A » NFL 1980s All-Decade Team
OG    Mark May    1981-89    1    0
N/A » Most eloquent of the “Hogs”
C    Len Hauss    1964-77    5    0
N/A » Started 192 consecutive games
Defense
DE    Charles Mann    1983-93    4    0
N/A » Had 83 sacks for three Super Bowl winners
DE    Dexter Manley    1981-89    1    0
N/A » “Secretary of Defense” had 103.5 sacks
DT    Dave Butz    1975-88    1    0
N/A » NFL 1980s All-Decade Team
DT    Turk Edwards    1932-40    8 (All-NFL)    0
N/A » Agile and huge for his era
LB    Sam Huff    1964-69    5    0
1982 » Glamorized the middle linebacker position
LB    Chris Hanburger    1965-78    9    0
N/A » Most Pro Bowls of any Redskin
LB    Wilber Marshall    1988-92    3    0
N/A » NFC Defensive Player of Year in 1992
CB    Darrell Green    1983-2002    7    0
2008 » Fastest man in NFL intercepted 54 passes
CB    Pat Fisher    1968-77    3    0
N/A » Tiny but tough, had 56 interceptions
S    Ken Houston    1973-80    12    0
1986 » All-NFL 75th anniversary team
S    Sean Taylor    2004-07    2    0
N/A » Had 299 tackles, 12 interceptions
K    Mark Mosley    1976-84    3    1
N/A » Only kicker named NFL MVP (1982)
P    Sammy Baugh    1937-52    9 (All-NFL)    N/A
1963 » 21,886 yards passing, 45.1 punt avg
KR    Brian Mitchell    1990-99    1    0
N/A » No. 2 all-time in NFL total yards (23,330)

Coach » Joe Gibbs
Years in Washington » 1981-92, 2004-08
Career record » 171-101
Career highlights » Won Super Bowl in ’83, ’87, ’91. In 16 seasons, guided Redskins to 10 playoff appearances. Inducted into Hall of Fame in 1996.

Bimbo’s prediction


The Examiner’s pigskin-picking princess doesn’t know Sonny Jurgensen from Sonny Bono or Johnny Unitas from Johnny Carson, but we still asked her who would win the game. Bimbo was presented a picture of a Redskins helmet and a Colts helmet and she picked … Washington.