Ryan on Trump: ‘I’m Going to Speak My Mind’

Paul Ryan is the brains of the GOP. With each passing primary victory, Donald Trump is becoming its voice, if not its soul. Their contrast inevitabily will produce a clash. And although the House speaker said Thursday he’d come to terms with the presidential frontrunner, he also reaffirmed his commitment to the conservative vision that helped make him the most powerful Republican in Washington.

“I’m going to speak my mind. I’m going to defend conservatism as I understand it. I’m going to defend our ideas as the Republican party,” Ryan told CNBC’s John Harwood. “But we’re going to have to work with whoever our nominee is.”

The Wisconsin representative ascended the party’s ranks largely for his positions on fiscal policy and health care. His annual “Path to Prosperity” plan he released during his time on the House Budget Committee aimed to prevent looming explosions in entitlement programs, helping place federal spending on a sustainable track. His showdown with the president during a 2010 healthcare summit earned him plaudits from the Right.

Now, here comes Trump, who has said he doesn’t want to touch Medicare or Social Security. He has made animal balloons out of his elastic views on health care. You could see how this would result in disagreement between the two men.

Here’s part of the transcript from Harwood’s interview:

HARWOOD: Donald Trump does say, “Do not touch Social Security and Medicare, we don’t need to do that.” RYAN: I believe that if we do not prevent Medicare from going bankrupt, it will go bankrupt. And that will be bad for everybody. We have to tackle our debt crisis. We have to tackle the drivers of our debt. And I think, I hope, that whoever our standard bearer’s going to be will acknowledge that. HARWOOD: But if presidential leadership is the indispensable ingredient for entitlement reform, as everybody’s said, and has for a long time, doesn’t it mean if you nominate and elect a candidate who says, “Don’t touch them,” it’s not going to happen? RYAN: Well, I’d like to think that he will see what is going on with these programs. HARWOOD: He says don’t touch anybody. RYAN: Well, I disagree with that. I think for younger people like myself, they’re not going to be there for my generation when we retire. You have to change these benefits to prevent them from going bankrupt.

The night of Super Tuesday, Trump fired a warning across Ryan’s bow.

“I’m going to get along great with Congress, OK? Paul Ryan, I don’t know him well, but I’m sure I’m going to get along great with him, and if I don’t? He’s gonna have to pay a big price, OK?” he said.

Let the bidding start at $19 trillion.

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