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Bill Stepien, former campaign manager for Donald Trump, said in recorded testimony that he did not believe Trump’s claims that the election was lost due to fraud during the Jan. 6 committee hearing on Monday morning.
Stepien, who was unable to appear in person because his wife went into labor, offered his account of the weeks following the 2020 presidential election, in which he said the odds that Trump had won became “very, very, very bleak.”
JAN. 6 INVESTIGATOR SAYS COMMITTEE HAS ‘VERY FEW’ RECORDS ON MUCH-HYPED 187 MINUTES
During video clips of prior interviews with the committee interspersed throughout the hearing, Stepien recounted how he was aware of the “red mirage” phenomenon, in which Republican candidates appear to be in the lead after Election Day votes are counted but fall behind when mail-in votes come into play.
He also said that in Arizona, a hotbed of fraud claims, investigators told him that the allegedly fraudulent ballots were, in fact, from Americans living abroad and not ineligible voters as Trump was claiming.
Stepien managed the Trump campaign beginning in July 2020 and was part of a large contingent of Trump’s top advisers who were skeptical at best of the former president’s claims of a stolen election.
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The focus of this second hearing was to show that Trump knew his election fraud claims were false but still tried to maintain the presidency. The first hearing last Thursday outlined the day of the attack with testimony from a former Capitol Police officer and a documentarian as well as the trajectory of six hearings this month.
