Podcast host Joe Rogan revealed Wednesday that a sit-down interview with Vice President Kamala Harris would require “other people in the room” for her campaign to agree to it, which he argued would hurt Harris’s authenticity.

Rogan discussed the disagreements between his team and Harris’s campaign in setting up an appearance on The Joe Rogan Experience, saying she was given “an open invitation” to come to his studio in Austin, Texas, whenever she wanted. Former President Donald Trump recently recorded a popular episode for Rogan’s podcast, while the Harris campaign has made it “very difficult” to set up an appearance before the 2024 presidential election.