Calley Means, a former senior adviser for the Department of Health and Human Services, did not hold back when discussing his interactions with former White House chief of staff Susie Wiles in a Friday interview with podcaster Joe Rogan.

Means, who quit the Trump administration less than two weeks before the midterm elections, blamed Wiles for slowing progress on the Make America Healthy Again movement spearheaded by HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

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