Former first lady Michelle Obama relived the uncomfortable gift exchange that took place between her and Melania Trump on inauguration day during her first TV interview since leaving the White House.

“Well, there’s all this protocol. I mean, this is like a state visit, so they tell you that you’re going to do this, they’re going to stand here. Never before do you get this gift, so I’m sort of like, ‘Okay … What am I supposed to do with this gift?'” Obama said during an interview with Ellen Degeneres.