In Donald Trump’s “apology” for his vulgar and sexually-charged “locker room” comments caught on tape in 2005, the Republican nominee for president asserted that his opponent’s spouse, Bill Clinton, “said far worse to me on the golf course—not even close.” At least one other golf partner of the former president agrees.
A 1998 article in Time magazine on longtime Clinton friend Vernon Jordan quotes Jordan as saying he and Clinton “talk like men… There’s nothing wrong with a little locker-room talk.”
A Washington insider who has played golf with Clinton and Jordan on several occasions told TIME that on the links and in the locker room, “all they talk about is ‘p_____.'” Jordan has basically admitted as much. “We talk like men,” he told a reporter in 1996. “There’s nothing wrong with a little locker-room talk.”
The article cites another incident involving Jordan and Clinton from 1995:
Their banter is sexually charged. At a White House dinner in 1995, to cite an example, Clinton found himself sitting next to a statuesque blond and at one point, according to an account in Washington Monthly, turned to Jordan and jokingly told him to keep his “hands off” the woman, because “I saw her first, Vernon.”
Newsweek has also reported on Jordan’s and Clinton’s crude banter, quoting Jordan as saying of himself and Clinton on the golf course, “We talk pu–y.”
Jordan first met Clinton during the lawyer’s days at the Urban League. Southerners who love to work a room, both men love to eat, golf, tell stories–and flirt with women. Their mutual fondness for the ladies is a frequent, if crude, topic of conversation. Asked at a party earlier this year what it was he and Clinton talk about on the golf course, Jordan slyly replied: “We talk pu–y.”
For her part, Hillary Clinton has largely avoided directly responding to Trump’s charges and remarks about her husband’s behavior. But in condemning Trump’s “disgusting behavior” and “locker room talk,” her
campaign said that Mrs. Clinton reminded viewers that “words matter.”
Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump took the stage tonight for the second presidential debate, and right off the bat they were asked to address the elephant in the room: the recently surfaced tapes of Trump bragging about groping women. Trump refused to apologize for his disgusting behavior, dismissing it as “locker room talk” and “one of those things.” But as Hillary’s reminded us in her response, words matter.
The Clinton campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment.