Rudy Giuliani, the personal lawyer for President Trump, alleged that the tapes of private conversations between Trump and his former personal lawyer Michael Cohen, are proof that special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation is “going nowhere.”
“In that sense, they prove that this investigation is going nowhere,” Giuliani said during a wide-ranging interview with host John Catsimatidis on New York’s AM 970 that aired Sunday morning.
Giuliani added: “Donald Trump didn’t do anything wrong. He didn’t commit a crime of any kind.”
“Whenever they investigate these things, it sounds like a lot at first — and then it turns out to be nothing,” he said.
The New York Times first reported earlier this month that Cohen had taped a conversation with Trump about a payment he made to former Playboy model Karen McDougal for the rights to her story about an alleged affair with Trump. CNN then obtained and aired the audio last week.
A recorded conversation between CNN’s Chris Cuomo and Cohen was also made public this week, during which Cohen talks about the payment to porn star Stormy Daniels to keep quiet about her alleged affair with Trump in 2006.
“Cohen, over and over again, answered Chris Cuomo’s questions by saying all those things. [Trump] didn’t know about it, he did it on my own,” Giuliani said of the tape. “I didn’t do it for the campaign, I didn’t even think about it for the campaign.”
The payment was made to Daniels to protect the Trump family “against the false allegations,” Cohen said.
Giuliani also said he expects Mueller’s investigation “should be at the end.”
“I don’t know how they can claim any obstruction here,” Giuliani said, explaining Trump’s legal team has turned over more than 1.4 million documents. “This is exactly what the president has always said it is … it is turning out to be a witch hunt,” Giuliani said.
Mueller took over the FBI’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election and possible connection with the Trump campaign.
Giuliani said he knows of 32 witnesses interviewed as part of the special counsel’s investigation, and that “everybody knows there is no evidence of collusion.”
