Dr. Anthony Fauci stood by his denial that the National Institutes of Health had funded risky gain-of-function research, despite the NIH admitting EcoHealth Alliance had violated grant rules when conducting bat coronavirus research.

Fauci made the comments during an interview with George Stephanopoulos on ABC’s This Week. Stephanopoulos first played a short clip from an Axios interview with Republican Sen. Rand Paul, who said President Joe Biden should “absolutely” fire Fauci “just for lack of judgment, if nothing else.”