VATICAN CITY (AP) — The man who serves two popes has revealed that retired Pope Benedict XVI wrote four pages of critique and commentary on Pope Francis’s landmark interview in which he blasted the church’s obsession with “small-minded” rules.

Monsignor Georg Gaenswein, Benedict’s personal secretary and head of Francis’ papal household, told German broadcaster ZDF that Francis had solicited Benedict’s input on the interview, which was published in September in 16 Jesuit journals around the globe and helped define Francis’ agenda.