KRISTOL: … there’s more evidence yet that people haven’t focused on. In June of — in the Time Magazine of June — June 3rd, 2002, Nancy Pelosi was interviewed for a story about how the war on terror was going. And at that point, everyone was on board being tough with terrorists, and she talked about Abu Zubaydah. And she said he was very — he’s very skilled at avoiding interrogation, he’s an agent of disinformation. Nancy Pelosi, who was the ranking member on the House Intelligence Committee, knew enough to know who this person was. She knew that they had failed to get much information from him by regular techniques. And then she pretends — then she knew, presumably, at the briefing on September 4th that they’d gotten a lot of information from him. The CIA says they explained how they got that information by enhanced techniques. And there’s no reason to believe that they didn’t. So Nancy Pelosi, who knew enough — who knew who this person was and knew that he wasn’t giving up information, then knows later on he has given up information — and now she pretends she had no idea how that happened.