Microsoft founder Bill Gates is straddling the fence when it comes to the debate between privacy and national security advocates, the billionaire suggested on Monday evening.

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“There probably are some cases where [the government] should be able to go in covertly and get information about a company’s email,” Gates said at a Reuters event in Washington. “But the position Microsoft is taking in this suit is that it should be extraordinary and it shouldn’t be a matter of course that there is a gag order automatically put in.”