Veterans Affairs Secretary Doug Collins turned the tables on CNN’s Kaitlan Collins after the journalist refused to ask him about veterans and tried to trap him over the Signal chat leak.

“I wasn’t a part of it, and, you know, I’m not gonna speculate more than what the president has already talked about and those who’ve been involved have talked about, but I’d love to talk about the veterans,” Sec. Collins said following Kaitlan Collins’s attempt to get him to call the Signal mess a “mistake.”