Former MSNBC host Joy Reid claimed she does not believe President Donald Trump plans to leave the Oval Office, adding that it is “insane to assume” next year’s midterm elections will be “normal.”

Reid appeared on author and podcast host Wajahat Ali’s show, noting how several Republican lawmakers voted in favor of the One Big Beautiful Bill Act despite having major criticisms against it. Because of this, Reid claimed Republicans are not concerned about reelection.