Former California Gov. Jerry Brown brushed off the idea of an exodus from the state as wildfires rage because climate change affects the entire world.

“You might say, ‘We are getting out of here — we are going someplace else,’” Brown told the New York Times. “No. There are going to be problems everywhere in the United States. This is the new normal. It’s been predicted, and it’s happening. This is part of the new long-term experience.”