As the United States lurches toward record-high new coronavirus cases, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Anthony Fauci had some startling pronouncements — notably, President Trump has not attended a coronavirus task force meeting in several months.

Asked by MSNBC’s Chuck Todd when the last time Trump had attended a meeting with the task force was, Fauci replied: “At a task force meeting? That was several months ago, Chuck.” Fauci did confirm that Vice President Mike Pence continues to attend the meetings regularly and added that “the vice president makes our feelings and what we talk about there known” to Trump.