As former President Donald Trump and his Vice President Mike Pence revive their feud dating back to the Jan. 6, 2021, certification of President Joe Biden’s election, Pence is filling in the gaps on what happened after the Capitol riot in the following two weeks of their relationship.
In his book, So Help Me God, and book tour interviews, his first meeting with Trump after Jan. 6 has become a hot topic, especially as Pence has held fast to his claim that the events of the day were Trump’s fault, while Trump said that what happened was Pence’s fault.
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One of the better explanations came last week when Pence talked to author and media figure Joel Rosenberg for his Rosenberg Report on the Trinity Broadcasting Network.
“I was very direct with the president,” Pence said after returning from the Capitol with his family.
“He first asked after my wife and daughter, who literally were with me all night long on Jan. 6 and the early hours in the morning on Jan. 7. He asked after them. I told him they were fine. And he looked at me and said, ‘Were you scared?’ I said, ‘No, I was angry.’ I was angry about the differences he and I had,” the former vice president said.
“And I also said I was angry at what I saw people doing at the Capitol building. Because I thought it dishonored the tens of millions of people across this country who had supported our administration and our campaigns, who would never have done anything like that there or anywhere else,” he added in the clip shared with Secrets.
At that point, Pence said that “we aired out our differences,” something they would do until leaving the White House for good on Jan. 20.
As he did in his book, he told Rosenberg that they would come back to their differences again: Pence’s certification of the election and Pence’s insistence to pray for Trump.
“In fact, in one of our final meetings, I looked at the president as I was walking out of the small dining room and told him, ‘Mr. President, there may be two things that we never agree on, because I told him many times that I was praying for him. And he had been dismissive about it,” the former vice president recalled.
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“I said there may be two things we always disagree on. He looked up from the table and said, ‘What?’ And I said, well, I referred to our differences about my role on Jan. 6. And then I looked at him and said, ‘I’m never going to stop praying for you.’ And he looked up with a faint smile and said, ‘That’s right. Don’t ever change,’” Pence said.
In the end, said Pence, who is strongly considering challenging Trump in next year’s GOP presidential primaries, “we parted amicably. We spoke from time to time after we left office, but again, as I said, when the president returned to some of the same rhetoric he was using leading up to that day, again returning to criticizing my role, the stand that I’d taken, I just thought it was important that we would go our separate ways, and we have.”
Pence also said: “I feel firm in my conviction that we did the right thing that day, Joel, and I’ve always, always continued to pray for my old running mate and his family, and I always will.”
