In the first hour of a two-part interview with Fox News’s Tucker Carlson, the artist formerly known as Kanye West waxed poetic on everything from his pro-life politics and support for former President Donald Trump to sharing a trainer with Lizzo and feuding with Vogue and Conde Nast. But of all the tea spilled by the world-famous rapper, producer, and fashion designer, none was simply stranger than Ye’s beef with the brothers Kushner.

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