In the past two days, conservative commentator Ben Shapiro sat for two interviews. One is a rigorous and nuanced debate on whether his new book, The Right Side of History, fully encapsulates the underlying woes plaguing the West, and the other is a thinly veiled hit job consisting of the interviewer lobbing decades-old tweets at Shapiro that he’s since issued a comprehensive mea culpa to disavow.

One was conducted by a BBC host and the chairman of the Spectator, the world’s oldest weekly magazine and a conservative one at that. The other was conducted by a writer at the left-leaning site Vox.