While people hyperventilate about Betsy DeVos, President-elect Trump’s choice to lead the Education Department, supposedly demanding guns in schools to protect from grizzly attacks (she didn’t actually say that), her actual position got lost in the shuffle: “I think that’s best left for states and locales to decide.”

Sen. Christopher Murphy, D-Conn., apparently thought that was an extreme position. He cut her off and said, “You can’t say definitively today that guns shouldn’t be in schools?”