Tulsi Gabbard is an outlier. Running in a race stacked against her, the Hawaii congresswoman is a singular figure who doesn’t fit neatly into any one ideology, not even within her own party. She’s firmly anti-war in all of its forms (including the war on drugs), suspicious of big tech, skeptical of Russia-gate, and as of this week, open to regulating abortion.

In an interview with Dave Rubin, Gabbard agreed that abortion should not be legal during the third trimester unless a medical emergency necessitated it. Though she tends to think of abortion as a “libertarian” would, she disagrees with the Democratic Party’s mantra that there should be open, easy access to abortions any time and any place.