To be honest, I had never heard of Chappell Roan until clips of her talking on Alex Cooper‘s Call Her Daddy podcast started appearing in my X feed.

“A lot of them are married with children, and they have their own houses,” Roan said of her childhood friends who still live in southeast Missouri. “To me … Like, I don’t know when that’s going to happen for me. I don’t know when that’s realistic, if ever.”