If there’s one thing South Bend, Indiana Mayor Pete Buttigieg knows how to do, it’s how to apologize to black people if he thinks it will win him more than the -1% of them he’s currently polling with.

At Tuesday night’s Democratic presidential primary debate, CNN’s Don Lemon asked Buttigieg how he might “convince” blacks that he should be the party’s nominee, given that his city has an ongoing controversy over a white police officer who recently shot dead a black man.